QUEENSRYCHE / GEOFF TATE. Reunion or not? 

I read this and looked to see if I wrote it!!! My exact sentiments.

Absolutely agree......toss up for me between Mindcrime and Kiss Alive.......

Dark Side of the Moon belongs on that list too IMO. 🔥

'The Warning' as well. That album is a mind blowing 'tour de force' of progressive metal, and largely influential for the genre!

@@katr7969 I was also thinking The Doors LA Woman......

Rage for Order! EVERY track is killer. I burned through at least 3 cassettes using that album as a workout tape.

absolutely.

I've always considered him a top tier drummer. "The Man in Chains".

He was average and was in a band that sold millions of albums. I'd say he was rated appropriately. "Overrated' is just shit fanboys say to give someone more cred than they deserve.

He’s very tight -

Definitely NOT underrated 'back in the day.' Before 'Mindcrime,' he was receiving serious recognition from musicians and drummers for his Rage for Order work - it's awesome and always will be.

I had the cassette & the VHS when it first came out. Ironically when a relationship was ending given the songs.

I still like Rage as well.

Yep. And I know it was commercial, but Empire was amazing as well.

Saved you from what? Hearing singers who can still sing?

@@xDamageProducer He can still sing... WTF are you talking about?

@@geftiler2112sounds like bitterness for a failed career to me..

​@xDamageProducer really? He's 65+ and tours most of the year..99% of singers can't hold his to go bag.. ESPECIALLY him in his heyday

@@xDamageProduceryou obviously haven’t seen him live recently

One of the best guitar duo's EVER!

Yea, you're right. I've heard interviews from him before where he didn't sound at all interested and was kind of dismissive or condescending. I noticed he never mentioned Eddie Jackson when talking about the other guys. His bass parts are a pretty big part of the Queensryche sound.

Why did I always think Geoff was British before seeing this?

Geoff is usually down to Earth - he's a Capricorn 😎

Totally agree. Seems to be in a good place. Glad to see it and wish him well on that bucket list!

We already had that album. It was called Tribe and it mostly sucked.

Yes, one more record with the original line up! The question is what would it sound like, and would it be accepted and appreciated? Rage for Order, Mindcrime, Empire, and Promised Land, in my opinion, would be difficult to measure up to.

@@michaelsine5586 You’re right about that. I guess we can’t expect them to be who they were back then.

@@Houlgravely horrible cd no doubt!

I wish they could reunite and do Frequency Unknown in its entirety.

That whole show is just ridiculous,.. ; 0

OHHHH YESSS!!!👍👍👍❤❤❤

I used to order a pizza and watch the whole Tokyo concert...it was 1984 I think. I taped the whole show from MTV so I watched it like 100 times. The Warning is a masterpiece, way before Operation Mindcrime, that brought the band to a larger audience

That’s probably the finest vocal performance I’ve ever heard in my life. Unbelievable talent.

Geoff tate amazing vocalist I only seen them once they opened for Metallica at that time they were touring for operation mindcrime at that time I was not a fan never gave them a chance they were amazing a true fan after that

I’m thankful there are many bootlegs of shows on RU-vid of the original 5 playing. I watch it a lot when bored. Sometimes it’s an entire concert.

We were truly blessed. AMERICA at its best.

Oh really

Hot SoCal summer nights 🥺

Yeah man, we were blasting tunes off Warning album in my buddy's '73 Nova while cruising Anaheim Boulevard. Great times.

Playing a small theater instead of a large club

@@steventalavera2381 they would sell out either one of those. Stadiums probably not. I'd prefer to see them in a theater like the Stifel Theater in St. Louis.

I saw them do Both Mindcrimes at the Universal Amphitheatre in LA. 1 night only. 6000 capacity

@@steventalavera2381 that would be awesome!

@@steventalavera2381 I saw them do Mindcrime in it’s entirety with Pamela Moore in a smaller theatre in Portland in 95-96, it was fantastic! They also did it in an outdoor arena in Eugene Oregon in 2008. Saw the original tour 3 times. My favorite album of all time, so grateful to have seen it performed 5 times.

Up there with Ray Alder, Michael Kiske

Bless you Sir

Did the same thing. Sat in my rack, when I had one and queensryche helped me greatly.

Fuck yeah

I was on a USN ship from 86 to 90. Out on 8 month deployments working 14 hours a day, Operation Mindcrime cassette in my Sony Walkman was my lifeline to sanity. Many albums were. Ozzy had just got Zak and that album was with me too. The other that was so important to me was Metallica's And Justice For All. Those three albums were my escape.

To the servicemen here, y’all are the real rockstars here and I salute you! To hear of gentleman like you, defending a great nation, working crazy hrs is always appreciated! So awesome to know y’all got strength or relief from the music of Queensryche. That’s a huge honor for the band I’m sure. God Bless and keep y’all safe and secure!

I agree! If I may be so bold I would like to add Bruce “Air Raid” Dickinson to the list sir…

My fav album was The Warning!

@@matthewmatt5285 The Warning gets better every time I hear it. It’s my go-to. Any song, any order.

​@@vplexico 1000% Hammy,.I can't to Mindcrime stuff really,.I like listening to what made me Run home from HighSchool and destroy my bedroom ! ; )

Greatest metal singer of all time. Still has it because he uses his voice correctly

It is a throw up for me between Geoff and Patton I can't choose so please don't make me. Oh hang on Michael Kiskie too his voice is very much like Geoff's.

Silent Lucidity is my favorite album by far!

Beautiful song!!!... Don't make songs like that anymore!!!!

The Bass tone on OMC is seriously the nastiest, most punchy bass tone ever 🤘🏼

A bass tone I’ve been admiring for decades

kevin what tuneing is queensryche in standard downtuned there a mystrery band to me all of them are monster players great singer too

@@davidmarshall385 depends on the song. I think on Operation:Mindcrime the bass is tuned mostly to drop D. Songs off of Empire are in E std.

The rhythm section... Eddie & Scott are phenomenal players and add so much power to the distinctive Queensryche sound.

I think this interview actually told a lot of that story if you read between the lines. Chris was a MAJOR part of the band. Chris and Geoff were the primary creative force. Geoff has always marched a little more to the beat of his own drum. More varied musical tastes. The first one with the desire to work on original material. Geoff confirmed here that Chris was somewhat of a band leader for them. I feel like he probably served as the bridge (no pun intended, but happy coincidence) between Geoff and the rest of the band. The middle-ground. The most tastes in common with Geoff while sharing more tastes with the rest of the guys at the same time. After Chris left, they'd not only lost one of their primary creative forces but also a band leader. As Geoff was always a passionate songwriter he stepped up regarding the creative side and probably attempted to steer the ship a lot himself as well. As time went on, decisions and directions gained less and less traction (consider one of the most appreciated post-Chris albums was probably Tribe and Chris was back in the mix for that one). Then they went and put out Dedicated to Chaos. It tanked. Hard. Far more than any other release. Geoff and the rest of the guys just weren't gelling. I feel that Geoff got scapegoated a lot for that failiure of that album. The truth was the guys just couldn't work together anymore. They had struggled to since Chris and it was a miracle they hard fought to keep it going for so long. All of this just came to a head following DtC. The split was the best thing to happen to them. The only thing I have never agreed with is the continued use of the Queensryche name. Queensryche died that day. Hell, it could easily be argued they died back when Chris left and they were fighting for their lives ever since. The rest of the guys formed a great unit with Todd and under any other name (personal opinion) could have been a fantastic and far more respectable metal band. The biggest thing being the band finally saw eye to eye on things. Geoff is great now with what he's going. The others have their thing going strong. I feel if they were to "reunite" at any point it would HAVE to be a complete reunion. Chris included. A single, final album. The last album to bear the Queensryche name would be my dream but a single gig or mini-tour of a very small number of select shows would be the more feasible. I don't see it happening though unfortunately. Chris is done. Especially on the touring front. Without Chris it's just not gonna happen.

@@j800r_aswell Nice perspective, and yeah I agree with your summary --- your point about Chris being done and not wanting to tour is spot on, but I totally could see these guys maybe one day here getting together the original lineup just for a roundtable retrospective interview or conversation and perhaps that even leading to a Seattle area concert. Or maybe the existing QR lineup inviting all of the former members to a show for a special one-off guest thing like the Scorpions did with their old members in Wacken a few years back. One can hope anyway.

It sure sounds like Geoff and the band needed to get away from one another as the relationship had become toxic.

I have had the Pleasure of Geoff's Company on Several occasions. Always Kind and Gracious to Us. A Fantastic Gentleman!

Band is just like a marriage, things don't always last as long as you would want it to.

You are so f***ing right !

Certainly a milestone is musical history.

@@scumbagge3664 Neither that Tool nor that Queensryche album are in the same league as Dark Side and Hemispheres. Though I will take Mindcrime all day over Lameralus.

I agree

I agree with the original reply. Up there with Quadraphina.

Yes, but bad technique, that's why he lose his voice.

@@MrEnsiferum77 Tell us more, vocal expert.

​​@@LyonHart1313I can promise you that guy absolutely isn't a vocal expert. I'm curious about his opinion too

I was there. It was utterly amazing.

Empire tour? I saw that one in Winnipeg. I loved those guys.

Charleston WV for me, with Warrior Soul in support

I was buying a Mindcrime shirt when the QR show started. Total piss off. 🤣

Madison Wisconsin same tour????

Without a doubt QR should be ranked right up there with all the greats of the 80's! I've seen them live several times and without a doubt their live show was top shelf. So much so that they put a lot of bands to shame that had more record sales but couldn't do it as well live. Such a shame that they split the way they did but overall the change has seemed to work out well for everyone.

I'm with you, I still listen to them at 69. I NEVER get tired of their songs! They are absolutely the BEST band EVER!! Untouchable live!! No other band makes me FEEL the way they do!

Lamours was great ,I was there almost every weekend

Pirates....WSOU!!!

I have a similar story and I bet we were in many clubs together and didn't know it. Pirate Radio!

Great face for radio too!

@@davidtaylor4975 you should show us your face.

@@PowerRobMusic Its out there if you know where to look.

@@davidtaylor4975 nah, stop hiding like a coward. If you want to diss how someone looks, have the guts to put yourself out there. Otherwise you're just a rat hiding behind anonymity.

Agree. He is amazing.

He has always been criminally underrated; he is a monster on the drums

Tate has an incredible vocal range.

Why bother? Todd Latorre today might not sound as good as Tate in the 80s but he certain sounds better than Tate now

@@jpmcmullan8666 Because he is a pretender who replaced the greatest rock vocalist of all time? Because he didn’t help write any of the material that made QR special?

@@LyonHart1313 their new album is pretty special. He also didn’t help write any of the bad QR albums like Tate. And as a live band, if Latorre was replaced by Tate tomorrow, Queensryche would sound worse.

@@jpmcmullan8666 Agree to disagree.

all time A leaguer iconic voice

Crying shame his wife wears the pants and dictates his career. Queensryche finally imploded because of it.

@@rubicon-oh9km correct

Todd is better at this point in time. Love Geoff in the day was untouchable.

it is the one that got me sold on them, saw them opening for ac/DC

It's definately up there.

if you are pretending Diary of a Madman does not exist... but Rage for ORder is a great album, it's the one that sold me on the band when I saw them open for AC/DC

@@nathandanner4030 I would slot Diary of a Madman as the greatest

Yep, saw him a few weeks ago live for the first time since HITNF. Great show. Geoff still sounded awesome.

His two guitarists were kissing eachothers necks mid song. Very feminine energy and odd.

@@dirtypossem guitar necks?

And do you think that's all Geoff you are hearing?

@@Anjohl One would assume that Geoff can't sing backup with himself, unless he is has 2 to 10 throats in his one neck. So no, it's not all Geoff.

You must have missed the last decade.

@@denizenofclownworld4853 he got passed that years ago. He even hung out with QR a bit at a festival that both bands played at a few years back. Scott is the only one who seems to have a problem with everyone.

@@mightydegu Did you ask him how he felt? lol Shut up, dork.

I also saw that tour in 1988 and it was Amazing one of the best ever but, they got the line up mixed up, it should of been QR headlining and that other band opening. Imo. Last time I saw either band also. I'd seen QR 4 times before that and been a fan since the EP. Have em all on vinyl too. I knew that other band personally and had seen them at least 14 times before .. And Justice for All tour. I don't like em anymore. I do Love QR still. Always have.

Same! In Texas!

Same in Baltimore

Same tour in Detroit

Same in Louisville, December 1984.

Saw that tour in Philly. Its funny when Geoff mentions all the bands they opened for they show pics of each band except KISS. What gives? Does Gene want like $12.50 every time its shown? Lol

You will not regret getting into QR.

Well said! It's story-telling time, like they used to do in the old-days, without overblown narratives.

Wow sounds like haven’t heard any other QR albums

@@steventalavera2381 I've heard them all... Owned and love several

The albums with Todd are really good too. Give them a shot.

@@uhill74 Yeah, Love those too

There were always a song or 2 I found interesting even when everyone else hated the entire thing. HITNF is pretty brilliantly done if you sit and really listen to the songs and music together as a whole. That was something with The old QR,they liked to change it up and not release the same thing over and over and that what caught me and made me a fan besides the impressive playing.

The band was done after empire album, nothing else clicks.

@@MrEnsiferum77 That might be your opinion and loss. Promised Land was one of the best and most thought out releases besides Mindcrime.

@@vigocountyscanner Yes I think that Promised Land is an excellent listen and meaningful addition to their discography. Anything between that album and the Todd era material just doesn't resonate with me however. Really enjoyed the last two albums overall and hope that this upcoming one is along the same lines of quality in spite of the band showing some signs of splintering with Scott gone and also Parker moving onto other ventures.

@@shiningphantasy1393 I’m not even going to listen to anything else from them that’s new unless it’s with the original 5. I think there are more reasons to why Parker moved on and why Scott is gone then anyone will know. It’s not anywhere near the same,just another run of the mill rock band now,nothing special about the creative process,that went out the window when Chris left.

I play drums but have noticed just by their hand movements and where their fingers are placed on the neck that it didn’t look like their stuff would be easy to play. I know a guy who played and I’d go to his house and he’d show me how to harmonize with the parts he was learning. Was interesting but I’m a drummer. Michael & Chris we underrated and over looked all these years for people who weren’t doing half of what these 2 were doing back then.

I agree,degarmo was the driving force that made them great,respect to all members but after degarmo left they were never the same and will never be again unless he’s writing and playing.

@@ratmetal1168 You can pick out the songs on Tribe that Chris worked on. It had that Queensryche sound to it that can’t be described,but know it when you hear it. Only 1 time since has that been achieved and that was with Parker On Where Dreams go to Die. That was the closest they have ever got back to that sound that you know it’s a QR song instantly. Don’t think they will ever get there again without the original 5 doing it.

@@scumbagge3664 until you have to come up with it.

@@scumbagge3664 when's your album coming out?

Nice to hear someone else who enjoyed HiTNF! I think it's a great album.

@@davidgotteri Agreed! Their sound did evolve, and I understand some people didn’t care for that. That being said, I think it was an extraordinarily tight rock record, which was in shorter supply then, and still very powerful songs (not an easy task to combine those). Hit The Black nails the heavy side, You handles the JCW fans, Cuckoo’s Nest and Sign Of The Times covers the political, Voice Inside is the introspective highlight, as is Some People Fly. Chris performed a few years ago as accompaniment to Lily Cornell Silver performing Black Gives Way To Blue from AIC, in the background and out of spotlight, and I still felt that power (from her as well, she was amazing).

Although, he kind of left out Eddie. I was hoping for at least a shout out about his contribution.

@@dino.manzella agreed

Ikr?! It was just awesome to hear him name dropped cause they are also one of my all time favorite bands

He'll yeah "Rage for Order" was my favorite Album