I love how Pamela Moore does the ghost version of Mary on the lines "can you imagine?"... chills. I'm friends with her on MySpace, she's got such an awesome voice and she's really great to her fans. Spent one evening just chatting with her. She's the best. Geoff and the boys really did good by her, love Queensryche. Operation Mindcrime 3 maybe, if things in this country get worse? Who knows.
OM2 is a great work. It took a couple of times listening to get it. I got it. It's just a different message. How boring it would be if all the songs on any album were all the same. You can't listen to one song. The whole thing is the key. Always a message ;). The OM1 n 2 concert with Pamela was wonderful. Every concert I've been to- ALOT! has been the best! True die hard fan n much respect :)))) thank you for being the band that got me through a lot of crap since late 80's.
When I'm lost... I find a way, I hear voices. I feel them surround me, pull me from the edge I close my eyes and... . and my luck keeps holding strong, even when that boot comes down Waiting for the revolution but there's no one around, except the hands out of nowhere, saving me again There's always something there watching out for me, if I'm suffocating, it gives me air, it gives me air it gives me air, it gives me air, it gives me air Now, I remember, But where I'm going, now I'm not sure Only one thing matters much to me, anymore I'm looking for you, can you imagine? You can't think, can you imagine? You won't find a way this time to frighten me, yeah. You're running scared, can you imagine? Always looking over your shoulder, for a place where you don't see my face But my luck keeps holding so strong, even with the state I'm in. I'm like a revolution of one, even when I stumble I win, except the hands out of nowhere, saving me again There's always something there, watching out for me, if I'm suffocating, it gives me air. I'm like a cat with only a few lives left, and I'm running from the shadows Watching my back waiting for the attack, that I know is coming... I feel it's near, so near There's hands out of nowhere, saving me again There's always something there watching out for me, if I'm suffocating, it gives me air I'm like a cat with only a few lives left and I'm running from the shadows Watching my back, waiting for the attack, that I know is coming, it's near, I feel it's near, so near
This song and album just became more relevant than the original OMC .It is now my #1 album ever we are living like the lyrics say "waiting for a revolution but there's Noone around' "wake up it's all mindrcime'" .Not wanting to get political or offend people but the ones defying orders to liberate are not revolutionaries they are part of the plannedemic so here I exist like Nikki "waiting but there's Noone around .Again i am not a conspiracy theorist but i now am living Nikki's life .Everyone take care of one another be safe and respect one another .
A decent song, but this whole album is just a faint shadow of the brilliance that was Mindcrime. That is still my favorite album of all time, and Queensryche was in it's full glory then. It's unfortunate that this was a poor sequel to that, I really hoped for more.
I felt it was a good followup to a GREAT album. The sound was similar, and the atmosphere was spot on, and Operation Mindcrime Live at the Moore brought it all together in an entire package to lay the complete saga at our feet.
Queens rÿche is surely the best., Heavy deep lyrics, music thar really rocks, Even with all difficulties and downsides, the band still has itshonor place on the podium.
oh come'on. That latest album Chaos was written by more of the band members than anytime in the past. Wilton praises it and says it is a mix of all of their music. Check the interview. They just weren't into making new music the past ten years and wanted to become a cover band of all their old stuff. QR has always changed it's sound. They have become a classic QR cover now with a cover singer...Todd what's his name. lol
DeGarmo gone, Stone gone, Tate gone, Rockenfield gone. I finally had to give up on them. Only people left I can thank for all the great music are Wilton and Jackson.
I need to give this album a chance again as I just listened to the first OMC and am still blown away by it. But has anyone noticed that the guitar part in the song “Hands” is the same exact arrangement as the middle part in the song “Empire” right before the solo? I wonder if that was intentional or something… Thoughts anyone?
Stating such things in an interview under pressure from the Tate family is one thing and actually meaning those words is another. I saw an interview when Dedicated To Chaos came out,Wilton said they were really excited and they wrote a lot of stuff for the album but then Geoff had his own vision and all the stuff they wrote initially was not released. It's not a cover band when you have the founding members in it. Rockenfield and Wilton found this band.
just because some of those bands are not out there like they used to be, it doesn't mean they didn't influence a whole generation of people. the 80s were streaked with musical talent. queensryche was definitely one of the influential bands, but dont go discarding the others.
@zartanhatesyou , I've noticed that as well, but I think he prefers it that way. I have met him and he seems reserved on stage but actually has a dry sense of humor and is very nice. Love all the guys and (Pamela Moore) of Queensryche! Counting down, only 2 more days until the QR concert! WOO HOO!! RYCHE ON!!
You forget how many riffs Wilton has contributed to Queensryche he was always hidden in the Shadows of De Garmo and Tate. De Garmo and Wilton's chemistry was a big role in Queensryche's sound. Geoff has written some great stuff but a lot of it was co written with De Garmo and Wilton.
Yeah, without Chris De Garmo and Wilton you get stuff like this, good but never great. That's all Tate's music will ever be when left on his own, good but never great.
@IzzySmith1969 I know Pamela Moore is amazing man, I just added her not to long ago. I just got into her material. Operation Mindcrime 3?....that's going to be a tough one to pull off something like that? I don't think that they'll do something like that. I know OM2 is last and final sequel their doing. What I love about them is that each album they do creative and different from what they do.
@Virini I don't know...I didn't the video was too bad...it kind of told the story in case some people didn't really know. I'd love for this to be done as a movie...both 1 and 2...I think would make for a very interesting teledrama
released in regards to the court case. There is plenty of weight and clear cut answers as to why Geoff Tate is no longer with Queensryche. I am totally with the band on this and since Scott Rockenfield and Michale Wilton made this band and have co written so much stuff for Queensryche in the glory days including "Promised Land",my support goes for them. This band has finally got the chemistry,the vibe,and the joy back in them. We can agree to disagree and that's fine. But just have a look at
Wilton even said all his parts for Mincrime 2 were not on the album the producer and outside writer Geoff was working with played all the guitar parts and he used the band as session musicians. These type of things have been going on for a while and the band was forced to do a lot of things since the Tate family took over,what was once one of the most democratic and creative bands of all time. Go read and research you'll find all your answers. Take care and I look forward to the new album.Peace
Actually it's a he said he said situation. There are reputable sources that state the exact opposite. That no one was showing up to work. They were busy with side projects and left incomplete sections that wouldn't work. So you haven't commented on anything with the Chaos album? Wilton and the rest had a ton of input on it and everyone says it's crap. Who's fault is that? Geoff's?
Did you read up on the entire case? I am not naive at all but there are certain situations as to what happened and why things have been the way they are for so long. This band was not formed by Tate he came in later. Indeed back in the days all the members contributed as a band. And it wasn't about "My way or the highway" and "You'll play what I tell you to play and just forget about being creative I have my own team of writers" and making an Operation Mindcrime movie without consulting the band
I did comment on that album. Wilton initially said they wrote a lot of great stuff for "Dedicated To Chaos" and they were very excited but then Geoff had his own vision for the album and all the stuff that was already done and written never made it to the album and they had to start from scratch. It's very easy to see who did what in this band,Geoff has been running the gamut for way too long and hasn't allowed the band to be a band for quiet a few years now. Also read the documents that were
Heard Won't Cry Now a couple of times last week on KISW. Awesome song sounds exactly like Geoff Tate. Of course I can't find it and the station never says who they play. Anyone know this awesome song?
Great song, but that main riff would sound so much better with a better/heavier guitar tone. Holy shit, I can hear it in my head and it sounds amazing!
Best release since Hear in the now frontier actually, that album is WAAAAYYYYYY better than people give it credit for. If you're willing to try a new sound of course.
How could you go from Operation Mindcrime 1 to this I mean a couple of good songs on this album but as far as the production the sound and the rest of the album It's subpar I would have expected a lot more. Still a fan of Queens Reich but good Lord.
Paz..OMC was a not a huge hit until Eyes and MTV. no Ryche CD but Empire really hit out of the gate. we all go back to rediscover and OMCII is a fun listen today
I think this is an epic, classic-sounding Queensryche song on an otherwise forgetful album. It's as if the writers (who largely were NOT the band members) said "OK we gave the fans a 'classic QR song that has that Mindcrime-era feel', now onto the next evolution for the rest of this recording". Which, as we know from the crappy albums that followed (Dedicated To Chaos, anyone) this crappy album, turned out to be the beginning of the end for the Geoff-led era of the Reich.
+James Cain I must agree. I was hiking the Appalachian Trail when I got an email from a friend of mind saying he won a prize package from a radio station that contained a promo copy of Mindcrime II and he wanted to give me the CD since he knew I was a major Ryche fan. So I hurried my hike to get back home only to be utterly disappointed. Even DIO sounded awful. It was definitely a crime to follow a timeless epic album with piss poor material on the sequel. Mindcrime II & Hear in the Now Frontier are definitely at the bottom of the stack of my Ryche CDs.
James Cain its a continuation of mindcrime off of mindcrime 2 that one has Ronnie James Dio back for the chase song it was cool I went to this show when they came to las Vegas and set it up with both mind crime one and two together for the show well worth it
Ok, I get trying to recapture old glory. But why did they have to try and make the video look like it was shot by a high school drama student in 1992? Sorry guys, maybe it's time to hang it up.
I live this album ! I just wish the drummer would lay down real tracks and the songs mastered a lil different. The songs are there. I like stone w ryche
i wanna know the signifigance of the demonic ooking mans photo he has,this guy has been seen in alot of thier videos and i wonder if he is significant to the band or geoff or something,any1 know?
Ok if you believe they are that easily influenced you're very naive. I know the history of this band very well and have seen and met them on the first tour. Geoff made this band and if if isn't working out, then so be it, but don't blame him when there are four other members that have input. QR would have never been anything in the beginning and change is what made them a success. If they put out a typical metal release, It won't work.
Mind your language. Just becuase you're on the Internet it's very easy for you to call me a moron. Go check most of the albums,they have been co written with DeGarmo and Michale Wilton. Geoff is not just Queensryche the band started before even Geoff was a member. Get your facts straight and see the album credits of the first 5 classic albums.
Glad queensryche are continuing without Geoff. As much as I used to love him as a musician and vocalist,it's sad what he became. The papers prove it,he made this band in to a dictatorship. Actually when you get session players and outside writers to work with you and shun your band from the writing process,then the band is actually non existent. Finally it's Queensryche's rebirth and they will come with an epic album again.
I still don't have this album. But I think it's time. Operation Mindcrime was such a phenomenal album that eclipsed all other concept albums before it. (And absolutely predicted the Antifa movement from 2017-now). It was time to revisit this story and it's a good thing they did it before the bad blood with Tate.
The real story is that Nikki eventually got out of the mental hospital. He changed his first name to Karl and was living with a boy and his mother while working at a lawnmower repair shop. I reckon I remember now mhmm. I remember how it started. Alright then mmmhhmmm
As far as covering is concerned,I think you don't know they are working on a new album with some seriously solid material. It's not easy to figure how things have been for a while,the live peroformances display an unhappy band,the material has been weak on quiet a few albums,Geoff Tate involving outside writers and producers in a bunch of albums. He also completely shut out the band from the creative process. Like Mindcrime 2,that album didn't even have any contribution from the band members.
im a geoff tate fan now-not the new queensryche bs they got going on,well thier gonna be using the rising west name since tate is suing for the use of the band name tate wrote most the shit anyway
I actually love a lot of the songs on this album. I just hate the fact that it was basically Tate and outside writers. Scott doesn’t even drum on the album. They had a session drummer and made him sign a non disclosure agreement
what ruins this is Tate thinking he can assume the role of Nicky in th videos... Could it have been THAT hard to get the original guy back and do it right? I won't miss Tate at all after seeing the new lineup. such a shame,, this was so close, but still a near miss. Getting Dio on the album was a gret move, though.
quit bashing the ryche you only catch lighting in a bottle once if your lucky on one song let alone a album like zepplen 2 free bird live quidraphonic the who back in black come guys give credit for them if they werent relivent we wouldint be talking about it sorry about spelling spilt wine on key board sticking every were go geoff from another geoff for your information its the corect spelling for jeff by
If i just heard this song for the first time today I would not know this wasnt on Operation Mindcrime. Seriously. Sounds like it was recorded on that album.
Poison?? :You didn't just put them next to QR, did you? Poison and Crue are in the same cut with Crue being a little better, but come 'on? Poison was just a pop band and kind of a joke. No art there.
"The first official video off the critically acclaimed album Operation: Mindcrime II"??????? REALLY????? Critically acclaimed by WHO???? OM2 was one of the biggest dissapointments of my life. The only 2 songs that bear up to repeated listening are this one and The Chase and the chase is better on the Mindcrime at The Moore DVD
