Once a F150 fan, always a F150 one, all trucks have their loyal fans. My brother loves his Silverado, and his son loves his Tundra. That’s the beauty of it, all the choices for the varios taste of each person.
The moment you become loyal to a brand over a product is when you get screwed. All 3 of you are guilty of buying a truck for the name rather than the truck itself. Have you even gone and sat in any other trucks or do you just go from f150 to f150?
@@HrHaakon yeah I guess if I had to make deliveries or haul light goods a transit would be a good choice, but in terms of a vehicle I see myself needing the F-150 is about the only Ford product I'd want - Ford just has a long history of making poor quality vehicles but the F-150 is actually engineered to last
@@BReal-10EC It's easily chuckable, decent manual trans, brain dead simple and cheap. Some nice tires and I have more fun in it than my previous car, an Acura TL (v6). Also cruises at 100 for long freeway stretches without issues. Fuel economy drops to low 30s when you drive like an asshat.
I really appreciate the quality of your videos and the honesty of your reviews. The dynamic between you and Turbowski is really fantastic. The thing that seems apparent is that you guys are really good friends. It isn't something you often see, people who are comfortable with one another in front of the camera.
The Tundras are gonna cost you just as much money. Cost you more money in fuel. You’ll get less features. You’ll tow WAY less. And the Ford will last just as long. There’s a reason people buy the F-150 over everything else, and it’s not brand loyalty.
Enjoy your useful videos. And as others have mentioned: I enjoy the camaraderie and dual critiques by you and Turbowski. I drive a 1992 F250 extended cab conversion from the factory to a dually, 1.25 ton rear axle, 4x4 with a 460. 10 to 11 miles to the gallon, but it does everything but tow more than about 10,000 lbs. Lots of diesels do much more, etc. etc. However, it was bought for $7250 in 2005 with 89,000 miles on it and the original front brake pads. I've towed a 26 ft. trailer to Arizona and back, carry gravel loads, cords of firewood and know it doesn't cost very much to fix. In 2011, I had a quitting problem with engine while driving or idling. So I replaced the starter, battery cables, starter solenoid, alternator for about $600 using Napa warranty level parts and Ford OEM cables. In 2016, air conditioner replacement with my mechanic was only $700+. Water pump, fan clutch, all hoses, thermostat, radiator cap were $725 approx earlier this summer by my mechanic. Engine replacement if it happens is only about $5000 with a warrantied national block. I can't afford to buy a newer truck for cost. This one is cheap cheap to fix and easy. My wife has her Toyota Rav4. Now I am looking for a used Mercedes or Porsche suv that I can burn up on the road for few years and dump later. Of course, I am an old fart. Keep up the wonderful videos, lots of fun.
The twerking segment, I feel, is the cornerstone of most of your reviews. You need to put more emphasis on it. See, the choreography was spot on, power to the rear and all that... but it was way too short. I get that it was a quick review, although I hope you can allocate more filming time to that segment in future videos. Also, surely there was enough space in that bed for Scott to participate. Feels like a missed opportunity. Great review nonetheless.
Next time he should go next level wearing sunglasses, sneakers, and a G-string in the style of Sacha Cohen, and more mentions of the "del Sol". That'll make it legit.
I test drove 2 identical F-150s. First one was a 2.7. It wasn't bad, it wasn't good. Switched to the 5.0, fell in love just starting it. Way better driving too. Makes the proper V8 noise and it sounds better in person compared to this video.
I love the flat floor. just drove from denver to phoenix with my fam in my 14 fx4. with my wife, mom and sis I was able to lay down on the floor in the back to sleep. I'm 6', so I laid on my side with some pillows and enjoyed a few naps.
Really enjoyed the intro and music... That last shot before monlogue is a new angle and it kicks ass... Really like how every new video you are working in New shots and angles.... Keep up the great work!
OMG not only a killer review of this fine vehicle, but you brought back childhood memories of the 10s of hours spent playing Phantasy Star on my living room floor. Bomb.
@@dchawk81 yea lol that's what i want, a completely basic truck, no carpet, no useless touchscreen! I can build an XL exactly how i want it with all the features i need.
I own a 2017 Platinum 5.0 with the 6 speed. I absolutely love it. I’ve owned & own many Ford vehicles in my business and my wife & all my kids own Fords. This is by far my favorite of all time. I love the heated massaging seats! Steering wheel. The 5.0 flys!
Drives around in sport mode accelerating hard off the line, wonders why he's averaging 17 mpg. Hmmm I love auto vlog reviews, but they all (even the traditional magazine auto journalists) don't seem to understand that you can't evaluate fuel economy on not only short drives, but especially when you're constantly hammering it.
jbdnavy3 do you think all week long he’s flooring it? It would be more like 9 mpg then. If he didn’t give it on video everyone would be complaining saying my grandma can drive faster than that
Completely agree with your final thoughts, I was gonna get a tacoma but then I thought for the price the tacoma is $4k more canadian than a similarly equipped f150 stx with a stronger engine(2.7l eco) and very close fuel economy, I just went ahead and bought it, it's very well balanced daily driver and light off roading. Not a lot of people would cross shop them, obviously they don't compete but for your money you get better and bigger 2nd row seats, wider bed and better towing capacity.
@@michaelcelio9500 Same for me, I bought and STX with a 2.7. I was totally going to buy a Tacoma but the back seat was to small for a car seat. I test drove the 4runner but the dealer could not match the price on the F-150.
I was watching a video on the internet about this truck. Two men were in the back with the bench seat folded up while performing extra curricular activities on that huge floor and I gotta say, it really made me want this truck.
Love the way the 5.0 sounds and normal driving feels good. But when you want to pick up some speed and not mash the gas pedal to deeply, that is when you feel the weak torque at low rpm’s. Once it goes over 3700 rpms it picks up pretty good.
Another top-rated review.... The auto-specific elements are consistently 9/10 yet Mark does not stop there adds extra layers of 'artistic detail' and 'easter eggs' requiring more than one watch. I'm glad Mark has this YT site as a creative outlet because we get access to his humorous side - :30-2:00 made my Friday morning - Mark is an out-of-the box talent.
Mark, I am amazed, your videos and reviews just keep getting better and better. And some of the camera shots are so unique, they should be named after you. Amazing job!
Long Term Owner of Two Ford Platinum Trims and I can tell you that I have never had an issue with the lumbar or massaging feature. I think his truck had a defect
I've thought the same thing, but on the other hand there's not really an excuse for a pickup truck to ride like buckboard in modern times. Case in point - Air-ride Ram
No one vehicle really can do it all well, when it comes to trucks the current F-150 does everything a truck should do well. I live in an area where winters are really tough, from end Oct to end April my F 150 is my daily and man do I appreciate it, no shovel required! For the rest of the year I use it for light duty work and again, really appreciate it (why I prefer a 6.5ft box). As for the comments about the ride in this truck, equip it with the longer wheel base and some quality shocks and struts (Icon or Fox), put a rear sway bar on it and enjoy. Good review.
Savage - Have you looked at the body style range and trim levels aswell as engine availability for each body style? Reg Cab 6ft bed 4x4 XLT 5.0 10 speed = 4517lb curb weight Crew Cab 6ft bed 4x4 platinum 5.0 10 speed = 5100lb curb weight Reg cab 8ft bed 4x4 XLT 3.5 ecoboost 10 speed = 4610lb curb weight 2018 Raptor = 5525 pounds 2005 Dodge Ram SRT-10 reg cab short bed 2wd 6 speed manual, 5250lbs 0-60 in 4.9 seconds (car&driver measurement method) 500hp top speed 154mph which makes it to this day the fastest ever pick up truck. Pretty sure the first reg cab configuration i just listed and maybe also even the other one with the 3.5 ecoboost would get a faster 0-60 lol. Can't believe nobody has sought fit to test those models, especially considering reg cabs always deliver the peak towing payload numbers and come closest to delivering the ideal truck experience and deliver the best value proposition by far. You can get every truly desirable feature on XLT trim, nothing you don't need though like panoramic sunroof or massaging seats. You get all the safety gear, cameras, Sync 3 and even premium sound, Fx4 package all the stuff you really want can be had in XLT reg cab trim and you can't even go over 50k with everything added. I just don't want ford to get rid of the bodystyle. Just saying maybe you wanna test 1 if you get the chance? i think it'd be a great presentation and would firmly deliver on numbers for those skeptics.
I’ve got to say your subtle humor and goofiness makes you one of the best auto reviewers out there. Your mechanic you take the vehicles too Cracks me up as well with his dry sense of humor. Keep up the good work.
I tow a camper in the Rockies. That said, the V8 is great, but I'll take twin turbos when towing up at altitude where the air gets thin. Good review, thanks.
The rear defroster breaking the glass is a very common problem for the 2019 and older Explorers here in northern Canada. The number of these I've seen driving around town in winter months with cardboard or bags instead of a rear window would be funny if not so inconvenient for the owners.
Yeah I easily get 21 to 22 out of my 5.0, my only concern is the noises the 2018 5.0 has. Between the ticks and deceleration rattling I worry about the longevity of that engine
Have a 2016 F-150 KR and a lot of the fit issues you mentioned (steering wheel controls, SYNC delay) are issues that are not present in my version. I think it would be reasonable for you to state that this truck is a tester/press vehicle in the very beginning, and not "un-intentionally" mislead people to the quality of the vehicle. Testers/press vehicles really don't get much love, which is why I say this. I've put over 50,000 miles on my King Ranch and it has held up tremendously. Despite being two years older, some of the issues you presented don't seem accurate to my observation in my truck and several friends that also own the 15-18 model year F150.
You make mention that the 5.0L is their most reliable engine. There's lots of reports of them burning oil and knocking since it was updated. Any info on that?
haze1123 I blew the doors off a 2018 tundra in my 2.7 EB. From a dead stop and a 50 roll. Full truck length after the gear shift when my boost is all the way in it. And I consume less fuel and get better MPG.
I bought a Tundra new in 2016, I liked the Ford but in doing further research, the bang for the buck was just through the roof on the Tundra whereas with the F150 it felt like I would have to spend about $10k more to get the same features and then it would depreciate more quickly than the Tundra. I sold the Tundra for about $1500 less than I bought it for after owning it for one year and 9500 miles. I completely agree with you on the F150 vs the Tundra. I hope Toyota updates the Tundra in the next few years, then it would be really hard to beat. Great video!
Benefactor The biggest difference between the Tundra and F-150 when you buy them new is that you can easily get $10-15k off of the sticker price on an F-150. Toyota is notoriously stingy with discounts so you end up paying about the same or even less for a comparable F-150 when everything is all said and done. The real question for people is do they want a truck that's two generations behind the competition but more reliable and has better resale value or do they want a truck that is more refined and has better technology and creature comforts?
Yeah I know the F150 does go on sale which would make it more even but when I needed to buy there were no sales. I am a big fan of both. I owned a 97 F150 and it was an amazing vehicle and extremely reliable.
I agree to an extent, the older versions of Tundras and Tacos still hold their value extremely well though. I think that Toyota is such a global brand that it is not worth the investment to keep the Tundra super competitive with the F150.
No, keeping the older version the same as the new version slows the depreciation. With frequent updates the older model depreciates more quickly because people want the new version, but if they are similar people will pay similar prices.
We just payed off our 2018 F-150 XLT V8 w/ 10Speed. From the Research I have been doing EcoBoost 3.5 has issues and will cost much in repairs around 100K or so with exhaust manifold bolts breaking causing leaks to Turbo chargers on both sides the bolts snap off in block. We only have the Tow package, 302A, Power Inverter etc., tailgate step, and sport package. I have been told the 2.7 EcoBoost is rock solid though. I drive one everyday at work and it's a 2021 Ranger 4WD, Average MPG is 17.2 if I drive it. on my days off 15.5 or so. Mostly City some freeway, it's for patrol work.
Not necessarily. These companies and the EPA have quite the agenda in pushing economical vehicles. The issue is when all those extra components of those high strung smaller motors start to fail all the fuel savings go towards repairs. Ford is detuning their higher performance vehicles to push more of those EcoBoost motors, it's no secret.
@@sarahann530 Engines all over the world are not utilized in the same way American Trucks' are. They are designed for maximum towing capacity and minimal cost to repair in longevity.
Nonsense. Keeping their corporate fuel economy and emissions averages down is *everything* to high volume brands like Ford, who sells a shitload of trucks, because fuel economy/emissions requirements are going to get tougher and tougher. That's the reason they charge such price premiums for the V8 and the diesel. They know a few people who really want that engine will pay the high price (even tho the V8 is cheaper to make than the Ecoboost engines) and they can also say they offer 6 different engines for marketing purposes, while knowing that 95% of buyers will choose either the 2.7 or 3.5.
I have the 2019 F 150 5.0 and like it so far, thought of the Tundra til I found the cost of changing a starter, overall maintenance is very costly and the technology is 2007. The look of the Tundra isn’t ugly but it isn’t great looking either. But it mpg is horrible I am getting 23 highway in my f150 not happening in the Tundra 5.7 13-16 most owners report 17 is reported estimates. But Trucks are subjective get what you want. you are the one paying for it.
The cost of changing a starter is the reason for choosing Ford? Maintenance cost is no different than any other and it sure as hell requires less of it. No doubt the platform is dated, but it still holds. I like the F-150 but this was a nonsense comment.
@@rudystraight1750 How about replying with facts rather than name calling? He's not wrong about the tundras gas mileage, the fact that it's a dinosaur at this point. Also, the safety of the tundra isnt anywhere near as good as the F150.
That was my first thought - it seems that it'll be the eventual go-to choice for manufacturers once they actually build a CVT that can power, weight, and towing reliably for a long time (i.e. it will be a long time before that happens of course)
masterwhopper414 I don't see a CVT going over well with pickup buyers. Then again, a lot of people thought that the ecoboost engines would not be well received by truck buyers yet now they account for over 2/3 of all F-150 sales and outsell the 5.0 V8 several times over so I could be wrong.
of course your only getting 16mpg when your driving around like that - I have an 2018 Lariat with a V8, never reset milage and it's currently showing 19.1 (will have to qualify it's not used like a typical truck, back and forth to work, quite a bit of highway - pulls a trailer once a month)
I have the 2018 Lariat 5.0, love it. smooth power and lots of it. I get about 21 mpg on the highway but as soon as I hit the backroads or town driving, it drops to 15 quickly. Towing is great though, I haul 2 dirt bikes in the bed and pull a 6,000 lb trailer, can't even feel the trailer.
I see more Wranglers that fit that stereotype than anything. Then again, I live a good ways out of town, so most of the trucks I see are worked hard. They're built with those trims because people buy them.
My 2011 5.0 V8 F150 XLT is reliable AF and rides like a Towncar. Give us the ability to permanently delete that auto stop/start and I’ll buy a new one.
Dan Latta I have the same year in a platinum trim also with the 5.0 V8. It’s still in mint looking condition for the light hauling and light towing I do with it. No reason to buy a new f series. This has all the bells and whistles and does everything I could ever ask of it. And it still looks sharp!
Whine whine whine...the EB3.7 and 2.7 and a gift from FORD/GOD. I love how they pull and feel. There is nothing linear about waiting for a V8 to wind out and make power. I rented a 2017 F150 XLT 3.5EB 10 Speed and towed 8000+ Lbs for about 350 Miles...my god it was easy and I could pull out and pass anyone anytime. Its smooth, quiet, just bursting with power when you need it strong...sorry but the EB is a better choice than the Coyote. Even modifying it...Boost Max makes a tuning kit for the EB engines in trucks. $450 buys you 80HP and over 100 Lb.Ft. of torque...try that for that price in a V8! A luxurious truck made of Aluminum should have a twin turbo engine in it to...like a Benz or Ferrari or any exotic...yes the F150 is Exotic...no onther manufacturer can say that!!!
Sorry about that last post my iPad decided to jumble it all up what I meant to say was you don’t like to ride? My FX 4 rides like a cloud I call it my cowboy Cadillac!
I had a 1984 Lincoln Continental that blew out the rear window when I turned on the defroster, and I never heard a sound. What I thought was ice falling down in my rear view mirror was glass...
Yes this helped. I was thinking of trading the old Silverado for an f150. Now I’m going to wait and see what Toyota does with the redesigned Tundra in the next few years. Thanks.
Turdbowski has the truck knowledge of a Wal-Mart oil change tech. He is definitely in the minority. F series is the number one selling truck for the last 41 years, and number one selling vehicle worldwide.
The 10-Speed is better for towing above all else. If you're towing near the max up a hill/mountain and have your foot planted to maintain speed the 10-Speed's extra gears will keep the engine right in the thick of its powerband so you can maintain a reasonable speed.
The Cabin space in the back seat on an f150 is CRAZY. Especially with the seats folded up. That’s what I like most about em. I have an 80 pound dog that needs a lot of space when we travel. I agree the v8 is ideal. Eco boost just doesn’t seem worth it. I just wish ford made their trucks simpler it seems like the mindset behind the engineering is “fit as much cool new stuff as we can” and it makes me wonder how long will all that last. They need less buttons on the steering wheel.
You were misguided about MPG. The Eco definitely has a torque advantage, but they get about the same MPG unloaded and in most cases the Eco gets worse than the 5.0L when towing.
Why does every Ford emblem Completely fade away on the tailgates after about 8-10yrs. Poor quality. I see it all the time. No one else’s emblem’s fade away
