Zzz combat is not interactive enough to bring me away from WUWA, ZZZ combat is genshin combat + wuwa combat but worse you are forced to switch characters if you want to parry if you do qte, it is just bad "in my opinion". I will say it again it is "my opinion" for HOYO stans who might have a problem with this comment.
Yeah, the Chain attacks were annoying constantly forcing me to swap chars or wait the timer up, as if I had loading screens constantly during combats. So disruptive. ZZZ felt like Punishing grey raven just remove the ping system and better party system for the chain attacks.
Done with Hoyo games in general. Still as a player I hope ZZZ surpasses expectations, don't want Kuro games being complacent with their recent success. We wuthering good 😎🔥
You can argue that if you like open world games play genshin and if you like combat style game play zzz But.......but wuwa gives you both open world and one of the most satisfying combat style so i dont see why anyone would quit wuwa for either genshin or zzz
>fight 2 minutes with HP sponge enemies in tiny area >loading screen >fight 2 minutes with HP sponge enemies in tiny area >loading screen >fight 2 minutes with HP sponge enemies in tiny area >loading screen >fight 2 minutes with HP sponge enemies in tiny area >loading screen >fight 2 minutes with HP sponge enemies in tiny area >loading screen >Fun
@@Averageguy1221kill dumb mobs then load, more on loading screen than actual combat, plus mobs their has high def but super dumb, don't have jump button,buttons are just lame
@Aswero21 💯, I'm interested to see how far kuro can pop off, because I think it will just help more gacha games get better and do better in the long term to compete, it's no longer a 1 man race for hoyo, and hopefully it will get more companies putting out great games, even if you are one of the weirdos that hates kuro/wuwa, healthy competition is great for the market as a whole
Bruh you are a goofy if you drop WuWa for zenless zero. The shit literally looks terrible compared to WuWa with extreme repetitiveness and boring ass combat. Everybody is tryna cope cause WuWa is doing all the things your favorite games and game developers could NEVER do
To sum everything up "Since I'm a responsible parent and If I don't have a Fun button for the game i play then i can't invest my time on it" "FUN" button= Auto-play Auto-play the game and leave it for around 10 minutes or less while doing something else, come back and you had "FUN" Well mostly he's: >Expecting a Turn based strategy game's QoL to be implemented into an ARPG (specially on the auto-play side where an AI should handle your farming even if they die and just repeat the process over and over...So practically saying i want a bot in the game to farm for me) >Expects a casual player like him should have the same rewards as whales who refreshed or players who invested their time farming echoes to get their BiS >Expects that time you consume doing dailies would take less than HSR and Genshin (I don't know about this one chief, you could basically do them in less than 10 min or 5 if you have the right gears,doesn't need to be BiS even) I bet he won't get anything he wants or is asking for in ZZZ considering it's a ARPG
I try ZZZ for 5 hour and i try to find the fun about the game…i know i could stay to end game but it loss it meaning because the first impression 1 - 2 of game still not find the fun…and it not good for the game
I think it takes me like 10 mins to get my daily shit done in wuwa and when i have a free day i sit and grind echos or w/e. If this man cant do that he prob should not be playing games at all and just focus on that IRL grind
As someone who recently played PGR, like 3 months ago. I FUCKING LOVE IT! At first I'm hesitant to play since Im not a hardcore combat player, the only combat I know is Stardew Valley 😅 But when I saw Selena Capriccio playstyle and She's Free? I grind her shards for 2 months and now my F2P dark team is fully built. ❤
I cant my dude, he made a response video to the comments on that video 😂😂 and he did made a video on why wuwa would fail a month ago, time stamps consist of boring and repetitive content, non existent communication, lack of variety, growing greed 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. also tried zzz, its a side game worthy, not main game. Also while not looking at my screen, talking to my pops, I just win with button mashing, even if the difficulty is high, gave 5-6 hours of it but not for me , I hope this guy finds his audience well since hoyo peeps should support this guy then
What i don't like about ZZZ after 3hr on mobile and 3hr on pc : Too many CGs make the game heavy for a few repeatly content/mobs, 3-4 bgm tracks ? Control on mobile is not fun and you cann't re-arrange button layout make it hard to do combo. And finally, the oldschool matrix-like story is not enjoyable :v Combos in pc are smooth but it just too basic and the same for all characters/teams.
I played zzz for about 3-4 hours. I will say.... The music and the art style 8/10. The character designs are... alright. Not the best. But for the combat.... omfg. I can't. The switch just to parry, constant button mashing. The damn switch function is lack-luster . Hell, I can't even do Aerial combo's. I tried to jump to continue a combo, but I can't because I'm stuck on the ground. It may be flashy but doesn't feel good to play. Hell, i even say the arcade games are more fun than the actual combat. And don't get me started on the damn TVs, bro. I don't even wanna talk about it. And on top of that, as pure usual hoyo's gacha system is always not that great. I... don't know what to say. I guess... if y'all like it. Then that's all yours. And keep in mind this is my opinion. And if you disagree, then that's fine.
I’m actually pretty excited for that I love fft and srpgs in general and most I’ve played on mobile have been awful, including the final fantasy one I’m hoping this ones actually fun
The only reason why I didn't download or even re-download ZZZ is because of how large the game is on PC (which is 50GB I think and 110Gb for unzipping) which is much more compared when I combine HSR and WuWa together. My laptop only has 500GB and most of my files are related to school or anime I watch on my free time after playing gacha games. Already saw my friends' gameplay and I don't think it will replace WuWa for me or even make me download it the slightest, because I don't like how the game is. This is my own opinion, so you do you if you like the game.
mostly the CG, like you can dogpile the game all you want but their cutscene composition is top notch IMHO, i might even say that ZZZ had the best cutscene in all the games that were made by hoyoverse, its just so expressive unlike GI and much more fluid than HSR.
@@aratabhist Sorry, but if the CG is the reason the game is 100+ Gigs... They fucked up. This is an INSTANCED game, there is no reason or excuse for this to be 100+ gigs on release.
@@mercutiodrakmord5291 i can agree with the notion, tho some correction ZZZ is a 50gigs game, they just need an additional 50gigs to extract the file, it still doesn't excuse them for putting up a 50 gigs game much less that it is a gacha games.
Him: I'm a casual player also him: I want to minmax. Bro pick a side, casuals don't give two shits about minmaxing. casuals collect characters, story a lil, hop around the world for a while, log off.
This doesn't make sense at all 😂 leaving another gacha game for another gacha game. And genshin ain't rewarding. I spent months farming for the right Hu Tao artis. I got a feeling this dude is gonna be back in wuwa 😂
We got malleable elite echo in almost each mini event, there is no need to go to over world and hunt it 24/7, last week, all I do is just log in to the game and spend waveplates, and then log out. Nothing wrong, and I didn't feel missing out for that....
i just tried it bro and i get headache because of those damn TVs . I even got the 5star normal maid but damn have to stop playing because my headache won't stop ! It feels like those times with TOF, can't play for a long time because of headaches . Anyways I'll try it again tomorrow and if it's the same then I'll have to delete it, damn those 17gb .
I think these folks "quitting" will crawl right back, thats why i never say i quit games, i just stop playing them and boot them up if i feel like it, its not that serious
To put it into perspective you got 2.5% chance to get the on set Dmg% echo from TF. It's a little higher if you're out on the fields. In Genshin, you got 0.009% chance to get an off piece cup with the element you want. In HSR, you got 4.6% chance to get the on-set elemental sphere you want and 2.8% for on-set ER rope. HSR also has self-modeling resin. The echo selector in WuWa is pretty much the same, you do get a little more in quantity in WuWa. Also, he said he's leaving for ZZZ. Does ZZZ have autoplay? Is he trying to be the next Mtashed? So...what is blud waffling about? I feel like he's just malding and yapping because he didn't get the piece he wanted within 1-2 days.
here's a list of my genshin characters who still don't have an on set goblet: Neuvillette. Furina. Navia. Scara. Xiao. Ayaka. Al haitham. Tighnari. Ayato. Yelan. Arlecchino. Hutao. Dehya. Let's not even talk about 4*s. I have been playing for 3+ years. the other problem is the very niche artifacts domains, like you can't and shouldn't farm a set for months that only works on one character and leave your whole cast unbuilt. In wuwa I kid you not, all my main DPS's are on set.
ZZZ is off to a great start, available and playable on launch on all platforms, unlike Wuwa which I'm still praying for a PS5 version but it's starting off strong.
Apart from ZZZ being lack luster in terms of gameplay and combat the real question is why the hell is it 50gb?!?!?!?! Is this literally just cause of the bubbly animations the characters have plus the CGs? Cause thats crazy for an instance based action game not even wuwa that is a full blown open world with good animations for combat goes past 25Gb.
ayo bro W reaction, i agree with your argument with genshin grind it is worse than WUWA(your 100% right on the lifestyle change from then to now). as some Extra context for the grind aspect i think the WUWA system with the echos is less convenient than hsr/ZZZ grind as for the cost being more it requires you to login more days to get the same amount of Runs/progress in the same amount of time.(tho i feel like it has to be this way bc the overworld echos play a massive part in that gind), would love to talk more about it if you want to DM or VC sometime
OK while the arguments for not wanting to play WuWa are somewhat fair, like being a casual with responsibilities and thus not having the time to play an action RPG game.... not all of them are sound, and ZZZ will have the exact same problems. It seems like HSR with it's auto play is just the perfect game for this guy. There are several complaints that are just misinformation though, so it's worth clearing up. Having 3 cost echos that spawn with the wrong main stat buff is annoying, but that's not unique to WuWa, HSR and Genshin both have this issue with their Artifacts and Relics. Then there's the whole "I SPEND 1 HOUR AND GET LESS OUT OF IT VERSUS OTHER GAMES". That's just wildly odd. You should be playing a game for the fun factor and the gameplay, if leveling and gearing is slow, but the process is fun for you, you aren't getting "less out of it" lol. If you only cared about numbers efficiency, you should be playing an idle clicking game where you just click a button and the stats go up from 1 to 100 to 100,000 to 1,000,000. The Waveplate issue is also super strange. If it costs 60 Waveplates to get Echo exp, yes you get less "progress", but you don't really need to expend more time. Just go in, take a minute to clear the Tacet field, then leave for your real life responsibilities. What does it matter that you get less numbers on your gear progress? People want fast progress if they want to rush the Tower of Adversity, but the main reason to rush the tower is if you find it fun. Losing a couple of gems per cycle is NOTHING. All in all, there's just no need for these strange justifications for why a game doesn't click. The fact that it's an action game and you want to chill and auto with a low commitment casual game is more than enough.
When it comes to having time playing multilple Games, the best Thing about HSR is the Auto Battle. Makes farming alot faster and gives you more time to play other Games next. Unless, there's still Stuff you have to do in this Game when it comes to Story Content, Events, Side-Quests and Companion-Missions. Like, i'm new to HSR, but I'll take my time with it over the next Patches instead of going through all at once. I'll do the same with WuWa when it comes on PS5, unless I go into the Echo Farming.
I really doubt people are gonna quit wuwa for zzz Hsr and wuwa are the top in this genre quality wise Both can be played fairly casually too unless you want to be sweaty with endgame
I play Genshin Impact Wuwa HSR and ZZZ I go to the gym and about to get a job there is no need to quit any game gacha games don't take so much time once you finish the story and exploration you just have to learn how to manage your time
I don't get why people would think ZZZ would make people quit WuWa when they both gonna make people quit genshin more xD (though that 50gb size is a bit ouch)
I wish everyone that enjoys this game the best, personally its not for me. I was hyped for it, not as much as wuwa but i was hyped nonetheless, i uninstalled the day i downloaded it, ZZZ had and still has potential to be a good gacha, we'll see what the devs do folks. It had such good momentum but than it stoped almost instantly, first impressions are always what retain players, wuwa wasn't an exception and in not going to say it is, but personally i see ZZZ taking a bigger blow than wuwa. Well we'll see how it goes.
He started off pretty reasonable then devolve into making up excuses. Like bro, if you don't have time then that's it, but to nit picking all the random things just to make up an excuse why quitting wuwa is a good choice feel very weird. He lost me the moment he make all the excuses about the "problem" in Wuwa that ZZZ guarantee is gonna have too, like bro, even compare to genshin ? The problem he complain in Wuwa it's even worse in genshin, dude if you wanna quit because of irl stuffs, then just do it, making up excuses like this is embarrassing.
Wuwa made it possible to grind for echoes with your desired main stats without using stamina... and here we still have can't-even-call-it-casual players complaining about not getting their target main stat. god-tier lazy gaming
I gave ZZZ a shot and I'm not really impressed. It was fine for like 30 minutes then I started falling asleep. The setup of the combat feels bad, hitting an enemy doesn't feel satisfying at all
You cant play both if its not mihoyo game 😂😂😂. You can only play game both or triple or quadro if its mihoyo game. Honkai impact 3rd. Honkai star rail. Genshin snd now zzz. Other than mihoyo game no you don't 😂😂😂 Thats the world we live now
I tried ZZZ, but... Nah. Hard pass for me personally. From annoying interface, to fights, to damn TVs... Nicole alone isn't enough to make me play this game. I think quitting WuWa for ZZZ is mental. This dude was always a joke and not it stopped being funny. I'm sure he understands that it's not a game that is a problem, but he himself. And just baiting. Annoying.
Im not bashing on zzz but the enemies didnt look like they even do much theyre just bullet sponges....and i think some ppl are leaving for zzz because their device cant handle wuthering waves which is understandable
Every time I see that I feel like an odd person I’m 36 year old married with 2 kids but I’m a gamer at heart and I 36* hsr content all of it my units are build at meta close to min max and wuwa I play it at a decent lv mobile woes right yea honestly it’s all about goals its not like your going to farm 24/7 in star rail there is a point where you reach a stat spread that’s good enough to clear cause after you just chasing 1-2 % gain yea and wuwa dailies take like 5 m now lol
besides the combat in zzz being pretty boring (imo pretty bad as well), i think the worst part of this game is the UI... its the most counter intuitive and weirdly designed UI ive seen lately in a modern game.
zenless "gear farm" is worst. because not only you need the corect rarity, corect stats, but also correct slot as well. yes, all gear are divided into 6 slot, and you can only equip the correct gear in the correct slot...yeh, good luck farming for that shit as a casual.
