There is an update to the first wedding dress story! Turns out the groom apparently hated OP, so he deliberately told OP it was fine to get him in trouble. OP and the friend talked it out and are on good terms.
@@pageclayton6850 Agreed. I hope the bride sees the signs and also has the courage and support that she needs to get away from this manipulative bad guy. It sounds like she at least has OP solidly in her corner.
I..wha..?! Groom did it to get him in trouble? That's even WORSE! The fact he said "It's fine, but you should change anyway" is just so mind boggling. People who expects you to read their minds just piss me off, OP isn't a damn psychic!
You know, at least this one has the courtesy to consider at LEAST the POSSIBILITY, the BASIC CONCEPT, that MAYBE, they were wrong. Some of these people are so animalistic in their wild defense of their ego, and their perfection complex, that they wont even do the bare minimum. Hopefully the mom learned something from this, because if she hasnt, then that child is going to be in for a long ride of delusion and pointless nastiness...
The thing I don't get is why not put her daughter in the empty seat next to the disabled person and then stand? Or if there were no standing spots right there, sit down with her daughter on her lap? It's really not that hard.
The guy wearing the wedding dress story, there was an update to that one.. They apologized to OP and his friend started questioning who her husband actually is because there were other things she noticed about him that he lies about.. The last story, so proud of that son.. Update, he sold the dress for $20k to someone...!! He's 17 and her excuse was, there is going to be alcohol.. Smh
Nice I’m so glad! Now to the alcohol, it can be an issue cause if a minor drinks then the venue or hosts can be legally in trouble if they get in trouble (like drinking and driving). However her behavior makes it clear she’s just a bitch, the way she was so demanding over the dress she didn’t pay a dime for and then refused to bring him. Disgusting and it must’ve been a beautiful dress.
Story 3: So who cares if OP and Husband were the wealthiest ones? You don't spring s**t like this on someone. The idea that the SIL just invited OP to the dinner to be an ATM does seem plausible.
Also, eww, RSlash entertained the idea of OP having a bad guy score. Sorry, but IDC if its your big day, you dont get to disrespect people willy nilly without consequence, and its time these people stopped getting away with it.
My wife and I were just discussing this type of behavior a few days ago. She was planning a getaway with some friends but it fell apart when one member of the group started pushing a more affluent member to pay extra. This in turn reminded us of another former friend who had tried something similar to my wife. This friend had thought it would be fun to organize a psychic to come to her home and invite all of her friends to have their fortunes done. At the end, she gave my wife the bill because we were 'wealthy'. We aren't rich and my wife doesn't even believe in psychics. Thankfully, we haven't seen her again.
My BFF is like super wealthy. I've known her for 14yrs this year. I didn't ask her for any help at all until July 2021 bc I was having a panic attack about possibly being stranded in another country due to covid laws (I was there for university). She absolutely helped me. But I'd never spring something like that on her, wealthy or not. The entitlement in that story was wild.
Yeah, I completely disagree with anyone that says OP was in the wrong for insulting SIL. SIL tried to pull a fast one on OP to sate her entitlement and OP rightfully called them out for it. That's the entire situation in a nutshell and it's why I've no problem supporting OP for it.
Story2: OP, I STRONGLY suggest getting a lock for your door! Because I have a feeling that Josie will go snooping around to find your attic space while you're not in the house
OP mentioned that she's not allowed to have locks for her room and even blocking the door to prevent Josie from coming in will get her into trouble. This is the life OP is dealing with.
People like Josie are infuriating. Why have kids if you don't want to parent them? Why have kids if you're going to try to shove them off to others at every chance possible?
I actually think the odds of coming to a ‘costume party for an engagement’ in a wedding dress are super high. The bride is lucky she didn’t have half a dozen various types of brides cluttering up her wedding photos. 😅
Legit. If I had a costume engagement party, at least half the guests would be wearing some type of wedding dress. It's basically what the theme is asking for.
At minimum, there was the risk of lots of people wearing white to the surprise wedding without a wedding dress being involved. For example, a lot of well known ghost characters wear a lot of white.
There is update to last story, I will copy here: I talked to my son about the suggestions you guys gave me and he agreed to sell the dress at market price. He calculated the price of everything and the value was quite high. We sent the proposal to my sister and she hated it. She said she couldn't afford it because it was too expensive and it should be a gift because "she is family". I responded by saying that it was too easy to say she was family to get a free dress, but not enough to include my son. She cried on the call and begged me not to ruin her day, but I didn't call because that to me was bullshit. At no point did she offer to just let my son go or apologize for it. And for anyone who said that maybe she's homophobic, I'm not sure, but I think who could be influencing her is her fiancé who is a Christian and has never been close to my son. However, I don't care if he's doing it or not. If she wants to exclude my son from this event then she will also be cutting ties with me.
Another update: Sorry for the delay, but it's been a busy week. Many family members skipped my sister's wedding and decided to have a party at a cousin's house instead of attending the wedding. My sister is obviously very upset and has cut us all off her social media. She got another dress to get married, but everyone thought it was cheap compared to what she was going to wear. And I would also like to inform you that someone already bought the dress that my son made, it was for a good price and that will help him cover his college costs. There's not much to say, but I'd just like to make this final point to let you guys know.
The guy is 17 and he’s already making custom professional level clothing? That is one impressively talented dude, I wish him all the success for his future career and endeavors. The bride is one hell of a choosing beggar for passing up on the opportunity of having a CUSTOM TAILOR MADE DRESS THAT WOULD HAVE COST THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS
Story 5: Yeah, she has a right to choose who to invite, but asking a family member to make her a dress and then not inviting them because of her rules is just a D move. Like, she knew the kid was underage but let him make her the dress. Kinda gives the message that she didn't want to pay someone for a dress, so just looked for free labor from family
Quite a few comments on Reddit suggested that she didn't want any attention on the person who made that dress, so came up with an excuse not to invite the skillful young man.
There were a few updates! Tldr OP the son and many family members had a party at a cousin's house instead of going to the wedding. They sold the dress for $20,000
Story 5 has the same energy as wanting a parent/grandparent to financially contribute to the wedding while simultaneously not inviting them or treating them as just another guest that didn't contribute anything
I think that last story needs a higher score. That's an unbelievable amount of work that woman threw upon a minor. I read the original story and Dabney cut some stuff out, that was a VERY expensive dress. Incredible materials and intricate design, they went all out. This dress would have been worth THOUSANDS. Not to mention the man hours lost in the creation of it. 50 drawings is insane and I personally would have refused at that point. No, she gets at least, AT LEAST, a 4/5 score. I'm happy that in the end, they didn't give her the dress and instead sold it.
@@wmdkitty The sister does indeed have the right not to invite him, but that decision also rightfully comes with negative consequences for her considering this teen literally made her dress for her and its blatantly obvious she just wanted to take advantage of him for a free dress. She was incredibly ungrateful and cruel, and her rule also meant he was the only family member excluded from the wedding since he was the only minor in the family. Her alcohol excuse doesn't hold water considering most dine in restaurants sell alcohol and don't exclude kids. In most situations, I side with people who don't want kids at their wedding, this situation is different because this witch didn't even bother to mention the childfree rule to them and still wanted this teen to do this massive wedding related favor for her, the dad had to directly ask her last minute before she even told them. She wasn't the least bit sorry either, didn't change her mind, and its obvious she knew what she was doing for months; instead she put on the crocodile tears and tried to guilt trip them into giving her the dress anyways. She was probably hoping that by the time her family learned about her childfree rule, the dress would already be in her possession and they wouldn't be able to do s*** about it.
It makes me wonder just how many people were told this was for an engagement party, or if it was only OP that it was told to to basically guarantee he’d do something like this? Maybe everyone else was told it was a wedding party?
Actually, there's an update to the story which explains everything. It turns out the groom hated OP just because he's friends with his fiance now wife, basically, the reason why told OP that it's OK to keep wearing the dress is just to get his fiance to hate him. OP and the friend are on good terms after learning about all that. So, who wants to bet with this new info, every guest member except for OP knew about the full party before hand just as a way to get OP to wear a white dress to get him in trouble without even realising?
Last Story: The only one who has to worry about the kid in a open bar wedding is the bartender. Luckily in an update, OP and his son managed to sell the dress to someone who truly loved and appreciated his craft. I hope he makes one helluva fashion portfolio for himself.
For the "paying the bill" story, imagine how SIL would have reacted if OP couldn't make it. Like she was relying on OP to make it to the restaurant so the latter could pay for it. If OP couldn't make it, would SIL have gone "oh, that's a real shame because I was kinda hoping you would pay for us"? THAT would have been awkward
Second story - I really feel for the teen. Just because the step mom gained a step daughter does not mean she gained a domestic servant. I doubt the step mom sees anything wrong with ‘just asking the eldest to watch the young ones’ but even if they were well-behaved - no. If OP chooses to, good on her. I respect that. But she’s not obliged to.
Yup. And speaking for myself, in a similar situation I'd probably be a lot happier offering to help out every now and then if there weren't this underlying feeling that I'm "giving the mouse a cookie," so to speak. She's already been thrown into a living situation that she didn't have any say over -- after the trauma of a bereavement, no less -- and now she's got someone trying to encroach on her life and personal space even more. If it were me I would need to feel totally secure in my ability to set boundaries and have my own space before I could stop feeling defensive about maintaining some semblance of control in my life and could start feeling comfortable giving and helping out. But instead she apparently doesn't even have a lock to keep her step-siblings out of her room when she's not there. The second-hand stress I'm getting from that situation is palpable.
@@eyesofthecervino3366 I just don't get parents of children that aren't in the immediate danger of seriously hurting themselves or have serious medical conditions that could down them at any minute, refusing their children to have locks on their doors... there is a right to privacy after all and no - that doesn't only start to apply when you're an adult. My Kid is 6 and has a freaking lock, even though it's never been used, but it gives a sense of security.
@@hopejohnson6347 I never had a lock growing up - but I also never needed to. When parents both respect and enforce respect of everyone's private spaces, it doesn't tend to be an issue. But when there *is* an issue? I agree. There are plenty of locks that can be undone for safety reasons but still exists to deter troublesome children.
The last story, if I was the dad there would be 3 options for the bride. 1: the kid goes and sees the wedding as payment for the dress. 2: the kid doesn’t go and you pay for the kids time, materials, and labor for the dress like any other dress. Or 3: the kid doesn’t go and no dress. Any way the kid wins by having a wonderful dress to sell, the money for the work, or seeing his work being used.
I believe there was an update on the wedding dress story. They skipped the wedding and ended up selling the dress for a lot of money. I think the money is being used for the son's college.
What even is the point though? Millions of venues serve alcohol to adults, with minors and children around, it's no big deal. Just prove that an effort is made to kick out anyone ordering for a minor, or a minor stealing a drink and your liquor license is safe. Also, if you invite this, specific minor, you get a free $20,000 dress, custom made to your specifications... it seems like a no-brainer.
@@Spartan0430 A. Pretty different when it's a relative's kid rather than just some friend's/acquaintance's. B. He's 17. C. Regardless, should've been upfront with them not planning to invite him when he's already so involved in the wedding as to make a free wedding dress for her.
@@firesong7825 it makes no difference if he's a friend's kid or family whether he's a teenager or a toddler. the wedding has a no minors rule. the real issue is it's an absolute dick move to not inform them of the decision until after he's already done the work on the dress and gotten him heavily invested in the wedding. which is the only thing that matters in the story, they had no intention of inviting the kid and just wanted free shit.
@@Spartan0430 Absolutes can be harmful. It's probably safe to say someone who can single-handedly design, sew and tailor a $20,000 wedding dress isn't your stereotypical party animal teenager. More adult than the bride it seems. Her loss. And no bragging rights in the future for having this guy's very first signature wedding dress.
There is updates to the last story too. The son priced up the dress including materials and labour. Aunt refused to buy it. The kid sold it to a bride via Facebook. Dress ended up worth $22K 😮
I know praising a parent for simply doing their duties is low-hanging fruit, but I was so happy with how aggressively the dad in the last story stood up for his son. A lot of men wouldn't be comfortable with their sons being into fashion and design, much less pay for them to explore that passion, but this dude went to the mat and beyond for his kid. Kudos. Also, dad, your sister is the worst kind of entitled person. Good riddance.
That's definitely NC-worthy. So that bridezilla had OP's son work on her dress for months knowing full well he was expecting an invitation (being her nephew and all) and didn't even bother to come clear about it face to face.
I was wondering how someone wearing a wedding dress at someone else's wedding *wouldn't* be a huge asshole but apparently the fourth story threads that needle real damn well. I think the now husband does deserve a slightly higher score if because he had a chance even *before* the party to say 'Hey, here's some restrictions on costumes' and could've avoided this very easily. But part of me thinks that the relationship might not last too long for the newlyweds going by how the hubby hid the news of the wedding from OP and lying to his wife about the whole thing. Edit: Quick one, there was an update on the story. OP felt bad, his friend unblocked him after asking around, and the two talked about the whole incident. Turns out she had a nasty fight with her new husband and found out he apparently straight up hates OP and thinks he's going to steal his GF/his friend away from him for some reason and tried to use the wedding incident as a reason to cut him out of their lives. The friend has apologized a lot to OP for her reaction and is currently staying at a friend's house until her husband is ready to talk about everything. She does recognize the red flags he's flying but she's unsure how to approach it but OP mentioned probably not updating after this.
@@kyuuchat Fixed, thank you. My brain instantly went 'she/her' after hearing they went as the Corpse Bride even though they said they were a guy at the start.
According to other comments, there was an update where OP and his friend talked it out and apparently the former groom now husband had it out for OP and was trying to get him in trouble.
This! Or, as so many parents do, sit the kid down then stand with them. Or, as so many everyone, including parents, do suck it up and stand because it's public transit and sometimes that happens on public transit...
Maybe this is based on my own country’s buses but I visualized that situation as ‘there are fold-down chairs behind him. Some of our buses will have disabled spots on both sides but one or both sides will have fold down chairs too. And ultimately: OP wanted to sit. ^_^
I think hearing the word "no" messed up Karen's brain so badly that she couldn't form any coherent thought. Although I have a sinking suspicion that she couldn't do that before the "no" either.
There is an available seat... That his wheelchair was blocking... OP doesn't have this magic seat she was sitting in demanding he move from his seat... The only seat was being blocked by his wheelchair
@@DarkWolf22K A seat that is in the disabled section, and knowing how small buses are, that’s the biggest space you can fit a wheelchair, and there isn’t anywhere else to put it. He shouldn’t have blocked the seat, but he probably didn’t have a choice if that was the biggest space he could go
Last story reminds me of another one I think you read a while ago. A couple asked a male friend if they could have their wedding on his property and he said yes, but when the groom found out that the guy and his fiancé used to date he made her uninvite him, and then they got upset that he no longer wanted to let them use his house for a wedding he was no longer invited to.
Re: Surprise Wedding: I had something similar happen to me. I received an invite to a block party and cookout from my mom and her long-term boyfriend. I was also tasked with driving several hours away to pick up my cousin for this block party. I have complex PTSD, which can make driving very difficult. It was undiagnosed at the time. My aunt on my dad's side decided to accompany me, because we were going to an unfamiliar location quite far away to try and meet up with my cousin and bring her back. My car decided, in the middle of this scary city, to suddenly start blowing the horn and not stop. This made me quite popular with all of the other drivers, and my mental state got to such a point I had to pull over, was physically ill, and my aunt had to take over driving. On top of that, my cousin told us the wrong place to meet up, and then we wound up driving all over town trying to find her. I should also mention she brought her baby with her, who was extremely colicky and would not stop shrieking at the top of her lungs. I'm not mad at the baby, I just mentioned this to illustrate how much noise and anger and rage was all around me at that point. Oh, not to mention my cell phone was blowing up with angry calls and texts about where I was. Needless to say, it was unpleasant. We finally pulled up in front of my house (I was renting across from my mom's place at the time) and my aunt and cousin went across the street while I tried to get my car to shut up. Someone came running out and screaming at me to hurry the f up, that "they got married." Huh? Who? What? Married? I was understandably confused, but it turns out that my mom and stepdad decided to get married and used this block party as a cover. And then when I was late and having car trouble, while on an errand that THEY sent me on, decided to just get married without me. And then they were mad at me for not being there or dressed for a wedding, and when I explained I didn't know that they were getting married, that the invite was just for a cookout and block party, they said that the line about "joining them for this special occasion" should have been enough for me to know it was a wedding. I would also like to note that in the 10 or more years that we lived in that town, no one ever had a block party, so something like that WAS considered a special occasion. I've never forgotten or forgiven them. I remained in contact (in fact, I now live with my mom, first stepdad passed away), and I still love them, but this was and still is something that hurts me deeply. You can't plan a surprise occasion, not explain what the occasion is to anyone, and then somehow expect them to behave and dress the exact way you want them to for said occasion. Also, surprise parties are a thing. Surprise weddings are not. And for good reason.
Second story: there was an update- the daughter ended up talking to her coach since her coach was already worried about her. It turns out that the daughter lost 40 pounds in 6 months when she was trying to gain weight. The coach had her talk to the guidance counselor and they told the dad. They also had her go to the doctor and a therapist, it was determined that the weight loss was from stress. She was extremely underweight and made her doctor very worried for her overall health. Now Josie is no longer able to force chores/babysitting on the daughter also has a lock on her door for privacy. Josie also is not allowed to enter the daughters room without permission. Josie is refusing to talk to the daughter claiming she is over reacting.
I feel like with the crazy step mom story, she just needs to secretly record her and show her dad as proof that she's making her do a ridiculous amount of chores. Feels like the best option.
Kind of what I thought. Or, if she wants to be a little sneakier and less confrontational about it, she could present her stepmother -- with her father present -- a list of chores she thinks is reasonable for her to do and asking if she's missed anything. Now it looks like she's committing to be helpful, but she's got on paper everything she's required to do, and her stepmother can't object without admitting in front of the dad that she's trying to make her do more.
Honestly, I think the 'sneak off into my secret place and make my parent look crazy and act as if I was in my room the whole time' type of trick is pretty much the only way OP will knock some sense of reality into her dad. Plus, there was an update in the story where it turns out the sneaker storyline trick worked. Can't remember what exactly the update was, but I remember it had that happened.
Realistically speaking OP just needs to keep up hiding and being careful not to get caught for 2 more years as she's already 16, then she just needs to move out either for college or just get a job and rent her own place than she can go NC with the "step-people" and just interact with her dad if she pleases.
Agree that OP was entitled to call it like she saw it when SIL deliberately sprung a huge bill on her without notice or asking. That’s not a ‘gift’. That’s manipulative, socially leveraged theft. Barely a step above dine ‘n dash. Especially since - oh yeah! - OP and her husband have no obligation to contribute to SIL’s wedding either.
That last one is infuriating because OP and especially her son spent money and time making a custom wedding dress. How many people can say they got a custom wedding dress from a family member? And then banning her son from The wedding without any notice? She doesn't deserve the wedding dress. Hell, I would be surprised if the marriage survives a year.
It took me over a decade to understand that some people actually want to go to weddings and would be offended by a lacking invitation - and even I thought inviting the designer of your dress who you weren’t paying was a no-brainer. >_>
First Story, YTA: Easiest judgement to make. I wonder, who needs that space more? A 5 year old who isn’t disabled or a LITERAL disabled man in a wheelchair, hmmmmm? 🤔. Sarcasm aside, obviously the disabled man. OP needs to stop acting entitled, she and her daughter can stand on that bus until they have to get off; I have no doubts that man would LOVE to be able to stand on that bus but unfortunately can’t Second Story, NTA: This is a genius way to get out of being forced to babysit ur out of control step-siblings. OP's dad didn’t believe her at first so OP had to do what was necessary to get him to believe her Third Story, NTA: How did OP take things to far?! SIL randomly sprung on OP the bill for the dinner, OP called her exactly what she is, and OP paid for her food and left. Why should OP have to apologize to "keep the peace" when OP was basically almost forced to a "wedding gift" that she doesn’t want to pay. Fourth Story, NTA: OP cosplayed as a fictional character because his friend said there was no specific theme. Then no one bothered to tell him that he showed up to the ACTUAL wedding, and when OP asked if he should change or not the husband said it was fine. This all sounds like horrible communication on their part, not OP's part. OP needs to find a better friend than this Fifth Story, NTA: So basically OP's sister used her nephew for a free dress (she didn’t pay for anything, OP did). If she wants to not invite her nephew, fine but she isn’t entitled to the free wedding dress that same nephew made
@@hizui7904 yeah she was. There are handicap chairs that fold up so people on wheelchairs can be strapped in. What OP in the first story basically wanted was for the man go move him and his wheelchair out from that area so OP and her daughter can sit
Fourth story has an update which makes everything much more sense now. It turns out that all this time, the groom actually hated OP and was trying to find a way to get his wife to end her friendship with OP. Why? It's because he fears that OP is going to steal his wife from him. Yeah, it's similar to the story about OP hating her husband's female friend just because she used to married to him and remained friends with him, as if a guy and a girl can never be just friends at all. And so, he set up his wedding and the costume party to get OP to wear a wedding dress. This is why the groom said it's fine for OP to keep on wearing the dress. OP and his friend are on much better terms now.
1st story: I'm wondering why out of all the people on the bus, she literally asked the only person who shouldn't move and has a designated spot on a bus. Ask ANYONE else, geez
Yeah, I was thinking, "wait, is the bride in the final story PAYING for the dress her nephew is making?" Because if she is paying for it, then I can see the reasoning for her not wanting to invite him as long as he's compensated. But if the nephew isn't gettind paid, then that's just a big middle finger for not inviting him.
Story 2. It does seem like OPs dad would potentially would have their back but he hasn't seen the treatment by stepmom. OP should see if they can try and get a small recording device or use their phone
Fourth Story: NTA. If you want a surprise wedding, then you can't get mad for your guests wearing white or wearing a wedding dress when they obviously are caught by surprise. The friend was being unreasonable for blaming OP, even if it's understandable she was upset. And her new husband is an AH for trying to shift the blame to OP, when he told her it was okay to wear the dress to begin with. Seriously, they were being petty for blocking OP. I think it's just easier for them to blame OP, rather than each other since they are newly weds 🙄😮💨
Story 1: Buses often have designated spot(s) for wheelchairs and if they're anywhere else, that chair is a killing machine waiting to be launched. Yta karen, it's probably safer for you and your kiddo to stand.
This is definitely true for buses here in England. Buses over here have two spots at the front of the bus that have folding seats with the backs to the side of the bus. Secondary School students usually used crowd those spots before 2020.
coastum party story: the costume party was for the engagment, its super funny and cool that he would make a joke like the corpes bride, its kind of on theme and its funny.
Is she serious? She asked a handicapped person to move for her 5yr old and she can't see how screwed up she was?? What the hell has happened to humanity that this is even an, AM I THE AH?? Smh
@@DarkWolf22K No, she didn't. She asked him to move his parked, secured wheelchair out of the wheelchair bay (where it's supposed to be) because she felt entitled to the space.
@@hizui7904 The request was NOT reasonable, as the guy explained he needed the space for mobility. Weelchairs take quite a bit of space you know? She wasn't being reasonable, she was being spoiled and ablelist. It IS pretty much just like asking him to stand.
As a disabled woman it actually angers me seeing Karen’s like this on public transport. The spots at the front of the bus are specifically reserved for us, the disabled. I’ve had folk try and get my to move in the past but I’m always extremely rude and loud “Are you asking me to move from the disabled seat when you’re able bodied?! That’s RUDE” But LOUD, loud enough for the whole bus to hear so they can be rightfully shamed for their behaviour. Only had it happen a few times, the only other times I’ve had Karens try (and fail) to harass me about disabled seating is because apparently I’m “too young to be disabled”, “you don’t look disabled” or I’m “faking it”. They get the same loud attitude, I’ll ask them “are you demanding I prove my disability because you want seating for the disabled?” Or “but you don’t look disabled, you just said that to me and I have a walking cane, so what’s your excuse lady?!?” or simply “stop harassing me for being disabled and using disabled seating, leave me alone” It’s the only way these Karen’s learn, they have to be shamed so they remember that experience forever so they never repeat that behaviour. Like who TF demands a disabled man “just move” when he’s wheelchair bound, where moving is difficult AF for him, all because “I don’t wanna stand on the bus”. Lady, we would love to be so mobile that standing on the bus was an option, my body is entirely crippled and I rely heavily on a walking cane, I’d love to be able to stand on the bus without feeling like I was gunna collapse, but she’s complaining anyway because “i’M a MotHeR”. Just leave us alone in our disabled seats, thanks
For the last story to me, it just seems like the bride wanted a free wedding dress and since she knew that her nephew was the person who designs clothes, she seems like she could get a free wedding dress and not have to pay or invite her nephew to the wedding, and still think that she was gonna get the dress
“Hey, should I go change?” “No, it’s fine, you don’t have to go change.” “Dude! Why did you tell my wife that I said you didn’t have to change?!” “Because..you did?” “You should’ve changed anyway!”
Oh my gosh, I remember being a kid on the public bus, and my parents telling me at an early age that if an elderly, disabled, or pregnant person comes on the bus, and there are no other seats available (even the handicap seating), that we should give up our seats. They did it themselves when the situation arose. That is how parenting SHOULD look. Teaching your kids the rules of common courtesy and modeling it for them.
I think an important part about the sister not inviting the "kid" that made her dress that wasn't mentioned, is that the son had asked if she would consider him only be allowed to go to the ceremony and not the reception, just so that he could see her walk down the aisle in the dress. The woman still said no. Makes it so much worse, imo.
There’s an update on the wedding dress post. The gist is that OP and his friend spoke and they both apologized and made up. Turns out the husband was lying to the friend and was the one that convinced her to block OP. It turns out that he has hated OP for years due to him thinking that OP was going to take the friend away so he was planning on getting rid of OP. The friend and husband are currently talking about the issue and that’s all OP knows. He and the friend are good, though.
She says that she thought op would say yes but the fact that she waited until the money was "spent" and did it in front of people that she thought could bully op into falling into her plan proves that that is a lie.
There's an update for that story where it turns out the groom hated OP just because he's friends with his wife, so the reason why he said it was OK for him to still wear the dress is just to get his fiance to hate him. Luckly, OP and his friend are on good terms after discovering that. I imagine the other guests of the wedding knew before hand while OP is the only one who isn't, you know, to get him to wear white without realising.
@@spydersoup8447 Then they both suck. Husband for playing stupid games over insecure jealousy and the wife for flipping out over someone wearing a wedding costume at a “surprise” wedding. OP is NTA and is the victim.
Second story op, record everything. Wait until youve record multiple instances of your step mom so that you have undeniable proof that this is who she is and it's not just a one time happening. Start with audio so you can do it discreetly and try video only if you think she won't see. And if all that doesn't work, sit down for a serious talk with your Dad and just tell him how you are feeling. Be firm, don't blame just focus on how negatively this is impacting you. If he is a caring Dad, he should listen
up[date on last story:UPDATE: first I would like to thank all the comments and suggestions, I really didn't expect my post to resonate so much. I talked to my son about the suggestions you guys gave me and he agreed to sell the dress at market price. He calculated the price of everything and the value was quite high. We sent the proposal to my sister and she hated it. She said she couldn't afford it because it was too expensive and it should be a gift because "she is family". I responded by saying that it was too easy to say she was family to get a free dress, but not enough to include my son. She cried on the call and begged me not to ruin her day, but I didn't call because that to me was bullshit. At no point did she offer to just let my son go or apologize for it. And for anyone who said that maybe she's homophobic, I'm not sure, but I think who could be influencing her is her fiancé who is a Christian and has never been close to my son. However, I don't care if he's doing it or not. If she wants to exclude my son from this event then she will also be cutting ties with me. And for those who are asking for a photo of the dress, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but my son didn't agree and unfortunately I won't post it because of that. If anything else happens I'll let you know, until then, thank you all!
This ought to be good... *First OP:* Hearing rSlash transition from his narrator voice to his Karen voice will never get old. Anywho, OP is TA. Side note: how did OP know the guy was 40? Could this be a troll post? 🤔 *Second OP:* That was a big brain move on OP, lol. Nothing wrong with OP needing space, especially from someone who constantly dumped responsibilities on her. OP is NTA. *Third OP:* Why do OP's husband and SIL remind me of Bud and Kelly Bundy on Married with Children? Back on topic, I'm surprised OP and her husband even considered going to OP's SIL's wedding. OP is NTA, and her mom needs to lay off the p1pe (censoring just in case). *Fourth OP:* It's not like OP could read his friend's mind. How was he supposed to know it was a wedding? OP is NTA, and his friend's husband needs to grow a spine. *Fifth OP:* OP's sister had the right not to invite OP's son to her wedding, and OP has the right not to let his sister wear the dress OP's son made and OP paid for. OP is NTA. Also, Shoutout to OP for supporting his son's goals of fashion design.
Last story: Automatically NTA, the son spent MONTHS on the dress. I have a sibling who makes dresses and lemme tell you it takes TIME and EFFORT. If she’s not willing to honor the person who make her DRESS than she shouldn’t get it. Maybe she should’ve thought of that before not inviting the PERSON WHO MADE HER FRICKIN DRESS!
I was going to suggest selling the dress, but apparently they figured that out already. Also, springing a wedding on your guests is an AH move, so the couple in that last story deserve an AH score even before the update about the husband setting OP up.
As far as the hiding spot goes, in the second story- it's entirely possible that she won't figure out where his hiding spot is, so long as she believes that he is sneaking out. That being the case, all he has to do is make sure she won't find him.
Fifth story: Didn't we heard a similar situation where the bride and groom didn't invite the "friends" who made, out of their own pocket, the invitations and all almost all the venue that was involving printing? NTA. They don't invote the dress designer, they don't get the free dress.
Someone, especially a cosplayer, rocking up to a costume party in a wedding dress* isn't that weird to me... When OP mentioned going to the party as Corpse Bride i thought of Kady in Mean Girls 😅 Edit: Forgot to add "in a wedding dress" lol
I would gladly welcome a cosplayer to my wedding! I mean, I'd probably have a theme for it to be a cosplay style wedding with people wearing outfits consistent with scifi and fantasy couples and weddings, stuff like Worf and Jadzia from DS9, Nate and Elana from Uncharted, all of the romance options from mass effect, dragon age, and kotor.
Rslash's solution to the corpse bride story is perfect and if I ever decided to do something like that that's what I would do. Ive seen other commenters say that the new husband didn't like that friend and was intentionally trying to get them in trouble, which would explain the "why did you tell her I said it was okay?" He didn't think he'd get caught trying to ruin a friendship. But even if the husband didn't like him, why didn't the bride have anything to say? Where was she when the guests arrived? Did she not think to say something to op when he arrived? I wanna know where this woman was that she couldn't greet guests entering her home.
@@389Miku true but still, even then avoiding talking to this person instead of being upfront, because obviously she knew she spring the wedding on everyone
Last story: The bride has the say-so of what happens at the wedding including who is invited. HOWEVER, as OP stated, her son is 17 and the only child in the family. It would be one thing if there were other children who couldn’t go but it was only OP’s kid. The bride had the audacity to ask him to make her wedding dress too and she doesn’t even invite him to the wedding. How ungrateful can you be?! I saw that people posted the update and I’m glad OP’s son sold the dress. He deserved something after all that hard work since his entitled aunt wouldn’t even give him the time of day to invite him to her wedding or to help cover costs.
last story sister: *asks her underage nephew if he can make her wedding dress* also sister: I don't want him at my wedding because he is underage OP: then you won't get the dress sister: what how dare you
Story 3: She didn't tell you because of your paying then you get saying where you go. And because there were people around that you wouldn't argue. The way I see it unless she would doing any of your work you don't owe her a penny. Your wallet is not for anyone that spin just because she's the nothing with her life and our parents don't want to pay for everything all the time. I wouldn't apologize for anyting.
Fun fact: in victoria at least, OP1 would also probably get banned from the buses for making a scene about it because there's obvious signage stating that if the priority seats are occupied by an able-bodied person, then that person MUST, by law, vacate for somebody who is considered disabled due to sickness, injury or pregnancy.
Story 2: NTA; there's nothing wrong with OP not wanting to babysit even without the bad experience, and Josie constantly ignoring her clearly expressed boundaries is very much not OK either, but this tactic of making her look bad can backfire easily too.
Well, another bonus of this tactic is it seems that it finally knocked some senses into OP's father, whom before this, he did not have OP's back at all and OP had even tried telling him about Josie, but he would brush it off as if OP is just unhappy about having a step-mother, and Josie would often twist up OP's words to make it seem like that. Basically, those Reddit stories about the father giving into the step-mother's demands and taking over the family and as a result, the father stops believing in his own daughter because to him, everything the daughter says to him about the new life is just her trying to convince him break up his relationship with his new wife because she simply hates her for no reason.
What you said about the first story really hits close to home for me because i also live with a physical disability and I would give anything to be able to have two hands and a fully functional arm
Wedding dress story, give the sister a choice, it's either a gift from a wedding attendee, or a purchase from a professional. Then hand her an absurd bill and say it's this, an invite, or no dress.
Story #3, I think OP is a legend, telling off her husband's entitled Karen sister. So obviously NTA. The last story, I think you're being too lenient with your score for the bride. Only 1.5? She asked him to make her a dress, rejected 49 designs, contributed nothing but her opinion (OP even paid for the materials), and then doesn't invite him simply because 'he's a minor'? She should get at least a 3. Maybe a 4.
Wedding dress story even if the husband didn't clearly say yes you still can't do something by surprise and expect the person to know the surprise. Either they know, in which case why are you keeping it secret? Or they don't which means you can't blame them for anything.
The with the teen hiding in a secret side-attic - my first childhood home had side attics upstairs too ! One had a locking hatch as the back panel of a built-in little bookshelf… the other side-attic could be accessed through a small door at one end of a walk-through closet. The rest of the upper floor was one big room. It was actually pretty cool for being a small post-WW-II house . The last time I was in that house was in 1976.
About the wedding dress 'fiasco': First, OP had no idea he was going to be at an actual wedding, so, not the a-hole. Second, he literally ASKED THE GROOM if he should go change and the groom said NO IT'S FINE. Third: Why the HELL did the groom LIE about what he'd told OP? And four: If you want someone to do something, SAY IT OUT LOUD! People cannot read your mind, can't SMELL what you want, and if you tell them it's okay, they're going to assume IT IS OKAY! And then they have the gall to BLOCK him? After what they did? WTH?
Story 1: where would he even move to? Don't most buses have like only two spots for handicapped passengers? Also as someone who regularly rides the bus usually the parents will let the child sit and stand over them, she was just trying to get an extra seat. You know this is one of those stories where the OP knows they're an a hole but wants to find at least one person that agrees to justify their actions.
In one of the stories OP was "invited" to a restaurant, which indicates that person who is "invited" isn't expected to pay for the meal if not informed beforehand. So leaving and paying your portion of the bill is generous in my opinion.
Dude, there is ZERO water held for inviting her sister in law to foot the bill. I don't care if OP's sister in law was royalty. Disrespect like that deserves an emphatic eff you with no chill. Special treatment for having a party ends the moment the disrespect begins. Full stop
Story 1: Yes, mom, you are the bad guy. Story 2: I wish I had I hiding a spot like that when I was at my parents' house. Story 3: With a sister in law like that who needs enemies. Story 4: Not the bad you asked for theme to wear also you didn't know that it was the wedding you thought it was just a costume party.
At the title of the last story, I thought the son was like 15 at best and that it was a general child-free wedding. But no, he'd be the only minor there at 17 and it sounds like he's already more of an adult than the bride, so he can avoid alcohol.
1. Funny that she says "for my child" but in the story it changes to "me and my child". Think the guy would have happily let the daughter sit on the second place (as i understand he used 1 of 2 places). It's not that far fetched to let your kid sit and watch him/her from the isle
For the last story: if I was the parent in the situation, I would’ve told the bride that if she would not invite my son to her wedding then she would have to pay for the dress that he slaved over for months to make her. I’m not quite sure and pricing but I’m pretty sure that cheaper and wedding dresses can cost up to like $20,000.
For the last story, you’re being way too kind with the rating. Lol. The kid literally made you the dress…the least he deserves is a dang invitation to the wedding. The sister gets an easy 2/5 buttholes.
“We are having alcohol so no minors are allowed at the wedding” that is LITERALLY the stupidest excuse I’ve ever heard. A lot of weddings have alcohol and still have kids in attendance, also most restaurants serve alcohol, should kids be banned from all restaurants? Like, yeah she didn’t have to have an excuse, it’s her wedding her decision, but if your gonna give an excuse at least make it a good one.
First Story: Can I just say the major AH is the government? Brazil has busses that has special spaces for wheelchair users, for this exact reason. Not just wheelchair users, but also spaces for blind people.
Many countries (including US and UK) have spaces for whel chair users. In the US the chairs just fold up so if there isn't a wheelchair user on board the space can still be used by others.
1st story: You can ask a person to move, but they can also refuse. 2nd story: Not gonna lie, that was kind of clever and hilarious. Update for the 2nd wedding dress story: The son took suggestions from Reddit and is selling the dress at market value, which is quite high. OP's sister got mad and refused to buy it. The sister told OP the son should give her the dress because she's family. OP pointed out that she wants a free dress because she's family but won't invite her nephew to her wedding for the same reason.
@@Ilovepink4lyfe14 Search for 'u / danwantsdeath ' (no spaces). My last reply got removed for some reason, not sure. there was no link. His profile should be the top one.
It's called priority seating for a reason. Op in a story 1 needs to either not ride public transport, or deal with the FACT that no body cares about her being inconvenienced.
I am sitting in a wheelchair for over 8 months now since the time of writing this comment. Thankfully I am getting so much better that I am getting a walker (don't know if that's what you call it in englisch... you know the thingy elder women use) so I can train walking at home after being a parablebic for such a long time. Everytime someone says that sitting in a wheelchair has so many positive aspects and that they would gladly sit the whole day, I just ask them one thing. "Ok so do you wanna trade my condition and wheelchair for your healthy legs?" and then you can just hear the rusty cogs starting to move and squeek in their heads. Standing and walking is such a nice feeling and it makes me feel alive again, so yeah that person would really love to be able to walk again. Some would even kill just to be able to move a muscle. Edit: If you have questions about anything considering how it is to be parablebic or something like feel free to ask. I will gladly answer any question.
Story 3: here's what I think: I think the husband thought it was fine, the wife was extremely upset, and the husband is already whipped so he acted outraged after the fact. He's a coward, she's a Karen, you're better off without them.
Apparently there's an update and the husband lied about the dress being ok, then lied to his wife about giving permission. And that's not the only thing he's been lying about. Marriage might not last as long as the Corpse Bride movie at this rate.
@@suitov that is next level crazy. Seems that he's one of those men that sees guy friends as a threat and was willing to isolate her like the jealous control freak he is.
