Likewise while the OP in the last story didn't have a baby, the couple didn't adopt dogs or a DJ so they shouldn't have to deal with OPs pets barking all day or their loud music at night. OP very much seems to be a "rules for thee but not for me" type of person which makes them an AH right away for me.
The OP CAN BETTER TRAIN HER MUTTS OR BOARD THEM EVERY MINUTE NOBODY IS HOME. If the dogs have separation anxiety to the point of excessive barking when OP is not home then SOMETHING IS WRONG IN OP'S HOME BECAUSE THEY HAVE CRUELLY NEGLECTED THE MENTAL HEALTH OF EACH DOG IN QUESTION. And that ONE HUNDRED PERCENT IS WITHIN THE OP'S CONTROL.
I want to know why OP didn't think of that himself after the first encounter. Then they wouldn't have had all the extra trouble. And those two were incredibly stupid for thinking that they could just demand all that, even after being told "No" multiple times. Every time my family has had to get rid of a cat tree/tower, we (always me) ALWAYS dismantle it, save the pieces that aren't destroyed, and toss the rest. We reuse the saved bits as replacement parts for the other trees/towers if we can or just as stand-alone pieces. Arts and crafts are fun this way.
I'm a veterinarian and used to make farm calls to this one family that had domestic bunnies everywhere. It was always so magical when I'd pull in the driveway to tend to a cow or goat and see black, brown, white, spotted, red bunnies under the flowers, by the barn, by the shed, under the apple tree etc. Always made me laugh. Delightful family, delightful bunnies. They did have to fence off their garden.
Story 1 - Didn't the HOA draw a distinction between domesticated rabbits and wild rabbits? I've dealt with both, and believe me, there is a HUGE difference between the two. Last story - Sorry, OP, but I have to go with the others on this one. You say you can't do anything about your dogs barking, but you complain because your neighbors' baby cries? Grow up!
My thoughts exactly. When they said domesticated animals, in my mind rabbits, chickens, ducks geese.. ECT... Guy in that story was just a jerk. Heartless and cruel. Hope he gets visited by three ghosts xmas eve... but they probably would leave in disgust.
She is definitely a bit of an asshole but she didn't say she couldn't do anything about her dogs barking. She said she couldn't do anything about it when she's not home. Which is true
it amazes me how people think that parents can just make their baby not cry lol and how they think living in an apartment is going to be so quiet and peaceful lol
This is why you should have an ultimatum..."Touch or even think of getting rid of my Daughter's pet Bunnies and I will make your life as miserable until you are forced to leave or quit."
Raccoon trash? We live in a historic neighborhood with small gardens surrounded by 10' fences. The neighbors have toddlers and trash full of diapers. The trash pandas bring all the diapers over the fence into my yard for midnight snacks. I would happily settle for "regular" trash!
I had a trash panda getting my trashcans some years back. I slipped out my bedroom window one night, took aim and popped him in the hind end with my paintball marker. Whoowee, those black/gray/pink raccoons can RUN! 😎👍
I can’t tell if you’re defending OP’s dogs barking during the day, or saying something more along the lines of “he/she can’t talk because they made the choice to have pets as much as the couple chose to have a kid.”
@@guitarbass22 Why would that comment be defending the barking? I'm saying yeah the neighbors chose to have something that cries loudly but OP chose to have something that barks loudly, they have no right to bitch.
@@nicorizzo5402 Except you're choosing to deliberately ignore the fact that the dogs were there BEFORE the downstairs tenants moved in, for years. If they truly made as much noise as the neighbors now claim, why did they move in in the first place, or why didn't the landlord make note of this supposed noise while he was showing the apartment to prospective renters? The neighbors could've just noped right out and gone elsewhere to rent. The fact that they didn't tells me that the dog sounds really aren't a problem and they're just making up stuff because OP complained about their kid.
Last story, if OP doesnt want to hear a baby crying than he should be the one to move somewhere isolated where children will never be a possibility. There has never been a single infant in all of human history who will never cry.
Story 1: How are bunnies not considered domesticated? Plenty of people keep them for pets! It's not like they were deer or something! Story 6: Screw OP! They're one of the biggest entitled jerks I've heard of on these videos. I especially hate how little he cares about all the trouble the neighbors went through to have the baby. Talk about a horrible person.
Domesticated rabbits are bred from European wild rabbits. Wild American rabbits are a different genus, not just a different species. OP could have nailed HOA guy in court if he wanted. That revenge was sweeter (and cuter) though.
Cat tower story - um, there wouldn't have been any conversation with anyone about the tower I got rid of because, like OP's daughter, to facilitate getting it out of my house and out into the alley for bulk pickup, I too dismantled the dang thing. And, I keep the hardware .... added it to my arsenal of bits and pieces of nuts, bolts, screws and braces, brackets and mending plates. Ya never know when one might need one of them to fix or build something else. Still haven't found a use for them after 30 years. If removing the carpeting would have been an easy process, I would have kept the wooden components too. But the carpet was bits were glued as well as stapled, so it was left for pickup.😄
I am, 100%. People need to get over this 'it doesn't matter how much noise our kid bothers anyone with because look, we made this and isn't it special crap'. You love your spawn. Hardly anyone else gives a flip about them. If the kid won't stop crying, they should be seeking medical advice about it, not just letting it bother other people who had nothing to do with their decision to reproduce.
@@nadinesharp9766wow. I do understand babies crying all the time is annoying and so is dogs barking all the time. The neighbors didn't complained about op's dogs barking all the time to their landlord. If they can deal with op's loud music, barking dogs and screaming match with the ex boyfriend then she should also deal with a crying baby who was woken up by the noises op is making and crying because of waking up suddenly. By the way dogs can be trained to bark less. How do I know? Because I have 2 dogs.
@@nadinesharp9766 I don’t know if you know this about newborn babies, but they cry. It’s a perfectly normal thing they do. It’s not something you make parents go to the doctor about. And to complain to new parents and demand that they make a baby making the perfectly normal level of noise when you yourself have noisy dogs and late night music is not only really insensitive, but incredibly hypocritical.
I would’ve asked the HOA to fine the guy for all the rabbits he is feeding with his “flowery oasis”. It is against the rules to have no domesticated animals HAHAHAAAA
It reminds me of a story I once read in a book, a chimpanzee walk around in the jungle and see another chimpanzee, the chimpanzee smirk and say to himself "look at this stupid animal, it would never be as smart as I am"
I see where OP is coming from, but damn, the hypocrisy of letting her dogs bark all day and run around on hardwood while she demands absolute silence. OP _and_ Neighbors suck.
@@wmdkittyHow do OP’s neighbors suck here? They have a baby and if OP complains about the noise, they apologize. They have issues with OP’s noise, but don’t make a stink about it until OP starts really getting on their ass about the baby. What could they be doing differently??
I would say Story 1 was pro revenge as well Last story: OP is the biggest ahole I have heard about in a long time. Why don't you move out? Better yet, your landlord might do that for you and kick you out.
Last story is the epitome of a narcissistic, entitled witch! "... but that friend is a little too emotional for my taste." Read: she doesn't agree with my entitled, over inflated ego and actually calls me out on it a lot. SMDH
Story 4: Good on OP for the revenge, she can't call the Police over every single Tiki Torch or she would get into trouble or even jailed for making a false report....
Tiki torch story: Dang it! You mean Karen didn't get to strike 3 with the fire dept.? Cat tower story: You want it, YOU fix it and clean it. Otherwise, it's TRASH! Good grief, I hope OP updates. Baby story: OP, YTA! Babies make noise, the parents can only react. Much like your dogs make noise when you're out. Deal with it or YOU move out!
I'm with you on the cat tower!! I also would have kept the hardware in my hardware drawer instead of throwing it away. Girl with dogs that wake the baby... IS the asshole. Poor parents are doing their best!! 🤔😕😎😁💋💖🌊🌊🌊🌊
Nuts, bolts, washers and screws can always be reused and repurposed~! I agree with this. If that last OP had at least put down some nice, thick padding and rugs overtop, she might not have been TA, because she would have made an honest effort. As it stands? she's the kind of neighbor we all love to hate.
Exactly. What does he want them to do, put a bark collar on the baby? Oh wait, he can do that to his dogs when he is not home to control their barking. And they do make doggie booties that can control the sound of the footsteps on the floor. There is nothing you can do to completely stop a baby from crying. Unless you're ready to go to prison And they didn't come to his door to complain about the dogs. He went to their door to complain about the baby
In my AO, wild rabbits are considered varmints, same as coyotes and wild pigs, all can be killed without license, season or bag limits. But pet rabbits are officially called "domesticated rabbits". They can be litterbox trained. They make very good indoor pets. Though they do chew rubber.
the last OP made me so mad like, what do they expect? the baby to just magically not cry? it's a baby! they cry! 'i can make all the noise i want but you can't so shut your baby up' is what i'm hearing from them. wow OP is Big AH here.
Op should be told this is just karma for all the hours she spent crying when she was a baby. Annoying the neighbors, ruining her parents sleep. All of it.
But, there are a number of things the parents could have tried to quiet the child that they did not try although they easily could have from the sound of the story. A lot of parents these days seem to think that if they have to listen to their child squalling that the rest of the world should have to suffer with them and they will mouth the platitude that they are 'doing all they can' when the reality is far from that.
Yeah seriously, when your neighbor gives birth, you congratulate them and maybe get the baby a present, you dont tell the newborn "shut up or i'll make you homeless", wtf ???
@@PINKH0RNET When you have a baby, you do everything possible to keep it from bothering other people. Sorry, but the parents were pretty damn entitled, too.
@@wmdkitty Yeah, you do what you CAN. If your baby doesn't stop crying even though you tried everything what do you want to do !? You won't put it in the oven, right !?
@@vulpixle9659 plus if your dog barking in your flat does not bother you, I don't see why babies cries (a little silenced by the floor) would seriously
That Bunny story reminded me of when I had pigeons. I'd let them out in the evenings to get exercise and a neighbor figured out that the pigeons were mine and demanded I get rid of them. Mainly because they'd bomb his property the most for some reason. Jokes on him though. The pigeons I had were common rock doves. And like their cousins they could home. So I got rid of them by setting them loose and I stopped putting food out for them. Because they were basically wild pigeons they had no trouble fending for themselves. When the neighbor complained about the birds shitting on his car I informed him that I no longer had any pigeons. To this day the decedents of those birds shit on that property.
Not enough information to assume anything on that front. Lol. Maybe a baby’s crying is a trigger to OP from abuse suffered from their ex. We don’t know, and they didn’t say, so to make that bold assumption definitely doesn’t align with any of the information that we have.
@@guitarbass22e have quite a lot of evidence for op being an entitled a-hole with no self awareness whatsoever, a shitty attitude and unreasonable expectations towards his peers, while applying double standards. You are right: we don't know why OPs ex left. But we can still make an educated guess 😂
Story 1: The karen is so clueless. Bunnies are considered domesticated, as are cows, horses, goats, pigs, chickens, etc. Though birds, fish, reptiles aren't considered domesticated. Oh, you have an aquarium of fish, they aren't domesticated so they have to go. 🤦♂️ One could really mess with the HOA and that rule.
Very true about the H.O.A. fool, as those were tamed rabbits. Yet all of those are only a single step away from going back to the wild. If you want wild chickens check out Florida. Wild hogs are a growing issue in a number of states. California has some wild cattle that originated from cattle brought over from Spain. Goats have also gone wild as have horses and sheep. The truth is it doesn't take much to go from what's considered domestic back to wild.
In the tiki torch story, seems to me like Karen has no f****** life. The simple fact of calling 911 because your neighbor is burning a tiki torch, that's about as ridiculous as they come.
I could maybe see her being suspicious the first time if she just smelled smoke. But she could've contacted OP in case there *was* a fire instead of just calling the cavalry so they could evacuate if necessary. After being told what was going on, tbough, she should have learned her lesson.
I would have grabbed my packages out of that guys hands as I was asking him for them. Love what the daughter did. They sure did want a lot for free. I think OP is an arse for asking the neighbors to quiet the baby down like that. He doesn't know if the baby has colic or what. He's such a jerk. His dogs bark constantly when he's gone, he plays his music loud, etc... He's the one who needs to go. He needs to live out in the country w/no neighbors if he wants to play loud music.
Looks like the rabbit loving neighbor saw himself as the new Thomas Austin and thought he'd make his neighborhood into a mini version of Australia. xD Oh boy...
The bunny story - I probably would have been more direct with the guy - "So, you enjoy hurting children or just little girls? Are you some kind of pervert?" and let him stew on that for a bit, lol - see if he still wants to push it. And yes, I think the American Rabbit Breeders Association (which recognizes 50 breeds of show rabbits) would back up that pet bunnies are completely domesticated - bred for certain purposes (fur, meat, pets), pedigreed, shown (just like dogs and cats!), little box trained, walk on leashes, etc.
I'm a product of IVF and that story pissed me off. Like, those people chose to have a baby and spent a great amount just to have one. I don't have children myself, but whenever I'm out in public with people that have babies, I don't blame them for their crying child. Babies are supposed to cry, because they don't automatically come out speaking full sentences. My parents tried for ten years, and it was hell for them. Having someone go "it's just a baby, get over it" after having multiple miscarriages would have made my mom (who was already depressed she couldn't have children naturally) snap. I don't particularly want children, but I respect those that do and I would never say to struggling parents, or any parents, that what they are going through is meaningless
It doesn't matter diddly what your parents or any others went through. Anyone who has to put that much time and money into reproducing is just ignoring the fact that this is the universe's way of telling them they're not meant to have them. And yes, babies do cry, but normally not for very long, especially when the parents make any actual effort to calm them, which many do NOT.
@@nadinenone4761 I'm guessing that you don't have children. But if you do, I hope that you're grateful for them. Because god forbid that they won't be able to have children, considering your mindset. Also, some babies are ill from birth and can't help but cry, and nothing that the parent does can help. Have you heard of colic? Colicky babies cry, a lot. And it's not the parents' fault.
@@musiclover666100 As I said, sometimes the universe tells us things aren't meant to be. It doesn't matter if that makes one happy, one still has to live with it. In this particular instance, supposedly it is not because of any illness. They are placing the blame squarely on OP and the dogs. Even if a baby has colic, this does not somehow magically relieve the parents of the responsibility to make actual efforts to calm and quiet the child, especially if they share walls with other people or are in a store or restaurant or whatever. If nothing else, they can give their neighbors or other patrons of businesses a break from the kid's crying, regardless of the reason for it, by simply taking it for a walk or a ride in the car. It's not a hard concept to grasp.
Story 2: I would have also got a whole large container of milk and left it out in a warm place, then because the neighbor puts his trash out at the night before I would dump the rancid milk all over his trash cans. Story 4: If I was OP I would have gone and bought a fire pit and made sure Karen saw the box. Then I'd leave the fire pit in the box in my garage and then go pretend to set it up somewhere Karen can't clearly see. Then when I hear the sirens I just act like I am just walking outside to light my tiki torch. This way Karen gets the abuse of emergency services charges which carries a hefty fine and a warning that further abuse of the emergency system will result in larger and larger charges, and if Karen abuses the system enough she will be put on the 911 restrict list, which all phone providers have which basically means that Karen can't call 911 and must call the local dispatch who will know of her and will "handle" her appropriately.
I'm pretty sure that after the second time they would've fined the hell out of Karen because of the fact that they are risking potential lives that could have been saved had they not been for her false reporting. Also I thought firefighters had a history of reports that when the address was brought up in the system that they would have been aware of the first call?
The 911 callcenter will know her phone number and her address, that's how they know where to send responders. So, they know Karen is the offender. Prosecute accordingly!
Story 5: YATA OP. I advise you to move or get over it. You can't stop newborns, infants or kids from crying or making noise. You can feed, swaddle, hold, diaper, and rock them gently. But sometimes they just cry. You can't stop kids from playing & making noises either.
A single generation of escaped domesticated rabbits will behave like any born in the wild. That said rabbits and even hares are raised either as pets or livestock. So the H.O.A has no real say about domestic/tame pet rabbits.
@@vernonharden That's true of almost every domesticated animal (ex. dogs, cats, horses, ect). Just because they revert back to their basic instincts doesn't mean that they weren't domesticated in the first place.
@@rhiannonmcdaniel2313 No it doesn't mean that they weren't or aren't domesticated. Yet some will argue or at least try to, that once domesticated they can't revert.
@@vernonharden Then I guess those people haven't looked up the criteria for domestication before forming those opinions? Generally speaking, there are only three criteria for an animal to be considered 'domesticated': it lives in captivity, it's tame, and it has been selectively bred by humans for more than 10 generations. Although to be fair, I can see that it is rather nerdy of me to have studied such a random topic; I was really interested in how early civilization formed when I was younger. Still, it's a rather impossible standard to expect an animal to completely abandon their instincts. That sort of thing usually takes thousands of years of domestication in order to occur, if ever. I'm honestly having a hard time trying to come up with an animal that has lost their survival instincts. Even chickens (which may have been domesticated the longest) know how to forage for food. If they die, it'd be because they are too easy for predators to kill on account of being loud, fairly slow, and having limited camouflage. But not on account on their lack of wild instincts.
We have to have our garbage can (limit of one) out by 5am. This is because we have bears and we get fined by the city if we put them out the night before. Also our bins have to have a bearproof locking lid. What is so funny is that the lids are not raccoon proof and they routinely open them and when there done they leave them open for the bears. 😂
The dogs were there looooooong before the neighbors moved in. If the noise was so bad, why did they rent the apartment? Why didn't the landlord notice this supposed noise while showing the apartment? Think it through.
@@nadinenone4761 they do not say that the dogs were there before the the neighbors moved in. Only that the dogs were there before the baby was born. They did say they have been trying for a while unsuccessfully. The neighbors with the baby did not make any noise complaints until OP started hounding them about the noise. The neighbors did not go to his door to complain about the dogs. They didn't even say anything about it until OP came to their door to complain about the baby🤷♀️
@@reneeg9406 It says that OP has lived there for 5 years and nothing about the dogs being a new acquisition, so most likely the dogs have been there most, if not all, of the 5 years. What does the couple having tried for a while to have a kid have to do with anything except it being a ploy to make people feel sorry for them by whining all over Fb. Boo-hoo. And the fact that the neighbors didn't say anything about the dogs before is the very thing that makes it sound as if it's just sour grapes at this point. You're complaining about us, so I'm looking for something I can use to complain about you. People don't generally put up with noise problems for very long, so if the dogs, OP's footsteps, etc. were really an issue, they would most likely have complained about it long before.
Last story: Sorry OP, that's part of apartment life. You never know who is going to move in next to/near you. As to the baby, well that is also a part of life. Baby's cry. At odd hours of the day. The only way you can avoid it in apartment living is to move to an apartment where children are not allowed.
The problem with dumping your trash on the neighbor's yard is if they have cameras, if they somehow have friends in the neighborhood watching, or if they are home and watching. If you get revenge, it doesn't matter if they 'know' who did it, but you have to make sure they don't witness or record it happening.
Kevin and Karen: "OK, we're here to pick up the cat tower, but we see it's been taken apart. You'll need to come over to our place and put it back together after you clean it up." OP: "You were dropped on your head as an infant, weren't you?"
Babies cry. People are loud. The way I handled it was that I didn't mind the noise others made because the baby needs to be able to sleep through most anything. Easy. Mine slept through stock car races, movies, concerts, and trips to the mall. That made it easy to live in an apartment and the neighbors get loud and there's no arguments between us. Bunny neighbor got what he deserved. And the tiki torches was almost great revenge, I agree, he should have let the neighbor call one more time and then handed out the others as a celebration.
I have literally scampered out of my house in my pajamas and no shoes to get my trash can to the road as the truck is moving on towards the house one or two after me, and if I could get their attention they'd take it. literally if you're polite and make an effort its fine.
Story 2 comment you read: Yep, that’s what I was thinking, but with a few caveats: 1. Any cameras on your house to bust your jerkwad neighbor, or cameras on his house, a neighbor’s house or utility to bust you? 2. Remove any personally identifiable material from your trash before you dump it on the a-hole’s lawn. 3. Any vile smelling, putrid or disgusting refuse you can add is a bonus! 4. Remember the identifiable trash you’ve withheld? After fertilizing his lawn with your garbage, put some empty boxes in your barrel, add some wadded up newspaper, then top with your remaining trash plus enough kitchen waste to pass any cursory inspection your a-hole neighbor or a responding cop might make. NB: I’m not advising any of this, just pointing out what could be done.
I have downstairs neighbors who have issues with my dog too... Their issue? He walks. Yeah, apparently his footsteps at night are so "loud" it wakes them up. They even recorded the "noise" from their apartment and sent it to me. I showed it to some people and everyone agreed they could barely hear anything. Still, I made sure he would not go into the bedroom and would be restricted to the living room and the kitchen, so no dog paws and nails directly above them. It wasn't enough for them, and after the 3rd time they complained, essentially wanting me to lock my dog up at night, I got fed up and rudely told them that I'm not going to punish my dog for EXISTING. We've been on bad terms ever since.
It's not about the dogs, it's about OP being Karen about a newborn. A newborn is going to cry and that's a 100% given. They simply complained about the dogs because Karen was b!tching about as BABY CRYING.
@@marjoriejohnston4905in an ideal world, yes, but you should have read enough of these stories by now to know that there are many bad owners whose pets cause as much problems as the owners do, not through the pets fault but because the owners don't properly care for them.
I wonder if that baby cries as much when OP isn't home clomping around on bare hardwood and listening to overloud music. This really sounds like a problem of OP's own creation.
Ugh. That last op is disgusting. I hope they get evicted for their stupid complaints. I don't know if you can but it would be great. It's a freaking baby and you live in an apartment. Babies make noise. They cry. And people are allowed to have families.
Last story: In germany baby crying is not considered loud. You are literally not allowed to complain if young children are loud/cry (well you can complain but well you are complaining about something ridiculous)
I think it's the same in Sweden. Most people will just "remove" themselves to calm down the child before coming back, if the situation allows it (like in a restaurant, not on a plane for example)
Story 1: I'm actually pretty sure that pet rabbits are domesticated? Like, rabbits have been bred for human use for centuries. Story 6: I can sympathise with OP to the extent that babies crying irks me something fierce, but what did they expect the couple to do? Gag the child? And compoounded with the fact that they make lots of noise themselves but that's "okay." Definitely the jerk there.
Story 2: “I (OP) have been dealing with your excess trash for *months* , and you’re going to pick nits? Fine, from now on you can deal with it your G-damn self!”
It seems like the neighbors in the last story were fine with the noise from upstairs until OP decided to start complaining about the baby. They probably decided to fight fire with fire after that. Like you're gonna start complaining to the landlord? Fine, so will we.
I've been a parent to humans, cats and dogs. I have also lived alone. I have been harassed about the noise from my babies and noises not coming from my home at all. Most issues in multi-family housing are from entitled people and abusers (both to people and substances). And reasonable people know that living near people means hearing and being heard by your neighbors
Story 1 reminds me of a neighbor in my apartment complex. A friend had wanted to know if I could take in pet rats. Any form of rodents aren't allowed. The neighbor over heard this and went out of her way to actively tell on a neighbor on a different floor that apparently had a pet rabbit. Was so annoyed.
Story 6: We all understand that children, babies especially, can be loud and annoying. However, when you grow up and move out on your own you have to accept that the apartment complex/ neighborhood you live in may have small children and babies. And if they're being too loud for you, buy some earplugs or grab some headphones and play yourself some nice music. Don't go whining about the babies/children making a completely normal amount of noise. And if you live in an apartment complex with thin walls don't listen to anything at high volume late at night without headphones. That's just common courtesy. OP is 100% the A-hole in that situation.
Babies aren't light fixtures you can turn off when it gets too late. When OP said they couldn't control their dogs barking I wish the mom said, "neither can I control when my newborn cries."
I mean I feel context is needed for last story. Like is the baby crying for like 2+ hours while parents do nothing, for sure. If baby is getting fussy for like 10 minutes? Yeah OP is entitled then.
When my eldest was still a baby I would put him down for a nap and also to give myself the ability to clean the apartment. He would cry wanting out of the crib I would check his diaper to make sure he wasn't wet but otherwise leave him in the crib as I did not want him to think crying would always get him what he wanted. One day the apartment manager came up to tell me that the people down at the pool were thinking I was throwing my son against the wall because they would hear him cry then hear a thump like something hit the wall and he would cry harder. She told me she knew I wasn't doing that and that she had told them so. What was happening is that he would get up on his feet holding onto the bars of the crib and would rock back and forth and the crib would hit the wall making him cry more.
Story 6 How did O.P think they were in the right? It's offical some people have their heads up their rear so far they can't even see when they are the problem.
There’s a lesson that I learned from my parents about neighbors you can’t have neighbors close at all like it’s ok to be friends that’s cool but not more than that
Story 1. I want one of those bunnies 2. I'm way more petty I would have moved their trash cans every week. Or if you know the trash violations of the company fo that do they'll get a card on their cans with them not being picked up. Like my cans have to be in a certain spot, a certain can color and lid completely down. Neighbor had put their crap in my cans so the the ldi didn't go down and the trash company didn't pick up. I moved their bags every week to their side of the curb. Hoa was on them like hot cakes. XD
