Rab Havlin gets 21 DAY BAN for this ride at Lingfield aboard Stowell... 

i have had most of my betting success on the Gosden stable A massive irony here Havlin looses on purpose and rightly gets 21 days should have been 121 days So many times over the years when i have backed him he loses when he should have won but was crap in the saddle

De La Sayette is lucky to have these two jockeys to learn from, already mastered the cocaine ban

21 days is not good enough. This why we see this shit happen! Minimum one month, a maximum of 6 months, might make the jockey think twice.

Looking at the big screen on his left inside the last furlong making sure he wasn't going to go past quickly

An investigation should be held to decide if this was pre planned or just a god awful ride. All jockeys are at it. I've lost count how many times I've seen jockeys just give up if they not gonna win. Then horses go past them stealing the places. Boils my blood. and il tell you something I have never seen a female jockey give up as blatantly as many of the guys.

I backed the winner so I'd like to personal thank Mr Havlin for his wonderfully timed ride to not go past. I know you were only "educating" the horse ;) Enjoy your 21day holiday and splash out a little on money you received from the layers.

Havlin and Gosden have been at this for years and stewards have done nothing about. It’s one of the primary reasons this sport is in the financial state it is in. You never know when horses are running on their merits unless it’s a G1 or top handicap.

The sooner this man calls it a day the better I've never trusted him he's a in house work rider.. #at it

I reckon he was riding with the ghost of Greville Starkey inside him!

So as a retired jockey...i watched this video numerous times. Stowell and rider took up a tracking position through out the race. Frankie knowing his only real competition was his stable mate Stowell tucked/trapped inside of him. Frankie held Stowell in the box as long as he could and just before turning for home launched into an all out run. Stowell had 3 choices pull back and go outside of the two leading horses once turning for home following Famkie, split the two leading horses which he tried to do but the inside leading horse drifted out into his path causing him to check back and then go left down on rail and chase down Frankie who has then taken a six length lead and nearly beat Frankie loosing by half a head. I've read through multiple comments and everyone seems to believe he did not want to win. Trust me this is the furthest thing from the truth. I believe the stewards made a massive mistake giving him days. Total BS...he should fight this tooth and nail. Look the decision he made was the best he had at the time. These decisions are made in split seconds. Unless you've been there you have no idea. If you lost money on the race...blame Frankie. While Frankie did nothing illigal and did everything he could do to win. He is the one that took you money lol. Dont piss and moan about loosing if you are going to gamble. Secondly i know for a fact if you've never been a jockey you should not be allowed to be a steward...period.

I don't get it. If a person is found to be fiddling a race that person should just be banned from racing for life. Too many jockeys get a slap on the wrist for it and it's the punters who suffer in the end.

The question dopey Chapman and scruffy seb didn't think to ask was if the horse in front was trained by balding,varian,hills etc would havlin still finished second. I think we know the answer.

A Havlin masterclass. His speciality

Worse incidents occur everyday without ever being punished. Disgrace that he didnt get the horse up yes but not uncommon for horses on debut to be given half hearted educational rides without any consideration for punters.

Look we all know Havlin has form for this, but the mistake he made this time was making it so obvious in what he was up to.

Yea coming round the hometurn he was clearly given the stable mate enough lead before letting the horse go, he should get longer its not the first time

I like how they race across a track the size of an airfield , yet they all run in a group and you get commentators saying things like held up in traffic or got trapped in behind , yet they had half a mile to pull out and run wide yet spent the whole distance running into the back of other horses arses , then try to look hard done by afterwards. It is almost like some races are choreographed beforehand it looks so false and ludicrous .

How much ability must this horse have though! Blocked in the run and then stopped from giving its full running by the jockey and it still finished like a beast, one to keep an eye on all the same

Ask Gosden which horse he wanted to win.

Its a very strange ride, early on he does enough on the horse to get the best position from a low draw just in behind the leader, he's travelling as well as or maybe even better than the favourite for much of the race then from 4 furlongs out he does nothing, eventually trying to make it look like he's riding a finish in the last 50 yards, stewards right to ban him.

I wonder what the owner of the 2nd made of it.

So blatant though clearly the punishment isn’t good enough

How does he get 21 days for that when Doyle got nothing for ride on Sea Carats? Just as blatant in my opinion

He was stopping and starting in the run in, a race goer as a eye for these things, realised he better half push it but when it responded he slowed down pushing on it, then when he knew he wouldn't get there went hell for leather for the stewards benefit.

Greville Starkey did the same on dancing brave he rode to orders to stop this it should be made only one horse from the stable on the flat or the jumps if they want more then the horses are coupled

Never mind the jockey what about the trainer what does he have to say.

Shocking

Watched it back a few times jockey on second only got busy on the second horse in the last half a dozen strides tough on punters who backed the horse to win.

If you want a horse to get beat. Book Jamie Spencer

This is easily eradicated, ban him for 2 years and this would seldom happen in racing. The softly softly approach needs to end. I hope the jockey looks at this race and realises how punters see him as not only a cheat but someone who is damaging such a wonderful sport. Shame on you!!

Nowhere near harsh enough in my eyes, should get some kind of fine aswell for them kind of rides. Clearly fixed!

In fact Frankie cost me loads this week thought he had the race won. Got caught by a 20/1 shot. Newbury this week watch the race if you can find it.

Frankie has done a lot worse on many occasions. Never got a ban. Yes he should have won. This will happen 300 time more before the flat season ends. None will be banned for a day. I will post the others as the year goes by.

I personally don't see alot wrong with the ride, alot of jockeys are told not to be too hard on a horse on debut and give it a nice experience round, like someone om here said not like the winner was backed down from 20s into even money. A fast finishing horse always looks faster when the horse infront is being eased down anyway. The horse looked like it got unbalanced rounding the home turn too and just needed to find it's feet.

saying it for years pure filth

Forgive my ignorance but I didn't see how he got the 21 day ban. (Horse racing in England is so much more fancy then here in the USA)

Dettori and Gosden have been at it aswel for years. When they started feeling the heat, Gosden got rid of Dettori to try and make it look like it was all Dettori's fault.

If the speed figure on the bottom left hand corner is to be trusted, the situation seems to be Polling Day, after shooting clear with a great turn of foot (32 mph to 40 mph), it idled significantly due to greenness (dropping to 36 mph), but when Stowell closed in quickly in the final 100 yards (Havlin was riding okay at that time), Polling Day picked up to 38 mph again. True, Stowell took the lead a couple of strides after the finishing line, but it seems Polling Day still has fuel in his tank to fight back. So, I'd say if Havlin made hard effort 50 yards earlier, Stowell would probably be the winner. But strangely, if Stowell had caught up with Polling Day, say, 1 furlong out, it would not be clear whether Stowell could draw clear or Polling Day could fight back. The current outcome is the ugliest looking with probably the most unfortunate timing of events

no fault i could see!

I cannot really see much wrong here by Havlin. The winner had won already and so had a bit more experience than the second making its debut and the winner got first run. On coming off the final bend it looked at one stage as if Havlin was going to pull to the outside of the other two runners until they swung wide and left a gap up the rail that Havlin switched to, when he could have carried on steering his horse wide if deliberately looking to get beaten and if there was anything dodgy here then I doubt the owner of the second will be too impressed. The Racing Post comment state: Jockey said, regarding running and riding, that his instructions were to settle the colt and ride him to obtain his best possible position. He added that the colt was a fragile type who had a high knee action, and that John Gosden had instructed him to ride the colt hands and heels and not to use his whip. Havlin stated that he was happy with his position in behind the leaders but added that the pace had slowed at half-way which he felt had not benefitted. He added that upon entering the final bend he was caught on the heels of Scampi, after which he switched to the inside and his mount ran on well inside the final half furlong. He further stated that, in his opinion, the winner was idling in front and therefore it appeared that the colt had finished faster than he actually had and that in time, the colt would likely benefit from racing on turf with ease in the ground; Trainer's rep stated that he was happy with the ride and that it accorded with the instructions given and that they were very pleased with this, first run.

Clearly fixed...he had plenty left in him to fly by. Corruption at its finest.

its the trainer who needs banning, the jock is just riding to orders by his snobby boss gosden

I’m surprised of the ban. It’s not uncommon for horses to be rode with kid gloves on debut. What do they want? him to throw everything at the horse to win a 3 grand maiden and potentially cause the horse to get upset and jeopardise future more lucrative engagements further jeopardising a potentially more lucrative career at stud. These are real animals with personalities and temperaments. They’re not betting machines.

I don't know much about horse racing, but after watching this twice, I have no idea what the jockey did wrong. His horse was boxed in on the rail until early in the stretch and he made his move as soon as he had room to pass and almost caught the winner at the wire. Yes, he had the best horse and if the race had played out differently he would have won...so what?...it was what it was. These things happen all the time...that's why they race...because things happen and the best horse doesn't always win. What am I missing here folks? Do disappointed losing betters get to make up the rules?

If you’re not going to ride the horse don’t go on it that’s a greville starlkey dancing brave ride

You guys up in arms over this over there, watch the rides in the U.S. that'll really make you want to rip your hair out!

look at the way he slaps it down the shoulder after the post, he is angry he knows he is getting done.

Why would the stable want the short price to win though,?

Omg what a joke if that’s not cheating I don’t know . I feel for the people that bet the 2nd

Many rides we can question, the Irony is, this shouldn't be one, Franky nicked enough on the turn to hold on, sure Rab could have and probably should have stayed tight to the rail and got through earlier, but not by much, and he had to re-correct nearly riding into one at the start of the turn, very harsh. 16/1 not beaten far by a 2/9 shot, 21 days?

Why hasn't the horse been banned for the standard 40 days?

If a horse is " leggy and fragile " and is gonna get an easy ride punters should be informed BEFORE the race not expo facto. One of the main reasons I don't bet on maiden/novice races.

Interesting hosrse ride video such a majestic one u got. Can't waitsoon I will ride again. To calm my horse I feel calm and relaxed cuz I can listen to my favourite bands like MCR, Escape or new bands like Delta Parole, and others.

Tbh if this happened in Ireland he wouldn't even get a 1 day ban

I think this ban was very harsh. Havlin should appeal. He was riding a horse having its first race; what was he supposed to do subject him to a hard race and sour him for life. The Lingfield stewards need to go back to stewards school. If Havlin had used his whip ten times or over shoulder height he would only have got seven-days at most. Shows racing in a poor light when a jockey gets a longer ban for being, in essence, kind to a horse, than if he had beat the crap out of it.

This does not change the jockey mind set. Cause he's still been riding this way. Check most is mount for jhon gosden same tactics on first time runners. I personally think that he's just there to school horses.

I saw tiger roll have a harder race behind clan des obeux last time out

Where was the problem?

Amazing race!!

Look at the ride given to Angelo Salvini in the 1982 Cheltenham Sun Alliance Hurdle and realise how long this sh!t has been going on.

Surely Gosden needs a ban

I think the second placed jockey thought the race was further than it actually was.

Anyone who knows me on youtube knows i am the first one to give out about racefixing if you want to fix a race there is loads of ways to do it ie miss the break from the stalls go too fast from the front get into traffic problems. The biggest problem i have is these horses arent being ridden to obtain the best finishing position when they are supposed to and that is cheating the racecourse isnt a training ground.

This wasn’t actually that bad. You see worse most days on horses tucked in, deliberately “finding” traffic, or held up and given too much to do.

We call them hay races here. They pay the hay bill.

HOW CAN YOU TELL WHEN A RACE IS FIXED

Couldnt even pull the horse up at the finish lol what a sham If this was so blatant in football the fans would be outraged

I SEEN HIM STAND UP TOO STAY ON HORSE THEN STAYED UP MAYBE A BIT LONG BUT THE HORSE WAS JITTERY FROM BEING IMPEDED! I WOULD QUESTION THE BHA AND THEIR FINDINGS!

Where is the horse that run 2nd i would love to c him again can get any info on him ?

That was a weak suspension considering that it was the horse's first race and the owners and trainer didn't have a problem with the ride. He did what they told him to do. I think they succumbed to public pressure because if the horse was 9-2 and not 2-9 no one would've said a word.

Nothing wrong with that ride, the winner was eased dramatically

Whats the problem he normally finishes 2nd

I played Stanwell place at 4/1

Havlin should be in a band what a Fiddler.😅😅

This happens all the time It's all part of racing

This was so dam obvious.....The stewards should have given him 6 months.....

I’ve watched the video 4 times , What did the jockey do to get a ban ! ( I’m no racing expert )

6 month ban please. Too soft on these crooked jocks in this country.

I guess you think aerodynamic is a myth

I don't see what the problem is???

People talking about 'corruption'...the winner was not a horse backed from 20-1 into 5-2 and landing a massive gamble. It was a 2-9 shot and likely not much money riding on this race, unless in multiples. I think a 21 day ban is extremely harsh when you take into account the runner up is a newcomer. So many ifs and buts n racing, but I seen a lot worse than this go unpunished. Wonder why the BHA making an example of Havlin?

Look we moan and moan but everyone knows horse racing is bent, and this will happen hundreds of times this season and nothing will come of it.Havlin is well known for this.Has been band before.Punters have always been treated with utter contempt, but the likes of Chapman who is supposed to stick up for punters says F##k all or just pays lip service.

Not a good 2 days for the trainer Gosden with one jockey getting a 21-day ban and another awaiting a ban for drug use , let's hope Frankie keeps his nose clean, sorry I meant doesn't pick up a ban.

S.davies on fae the port was terrible the other day no ban nothing

Detori should have been hammered last week for not riding out and losing the race. Was raging

Frankie eased-up on the favourite. Made it look much worse. Stowell will be a short price, next time out. Might be worth opposing

Hard one this, nothing wrong with this ride until 2.23.. horse turns his head right wants to pull out wide I assume to follow his stable mate, jockey guides him back rail-side.. he does lose some crucial momentum but that’s definitely a horse error not a jockey one, and then.. he gets the gap through and doesn’t let his horse go, the only thing that doesn’t add up is the fact when he let the horse go and it rallied up he lost the race by a nose.. you can’t judge that on a horse making up ground like that so it definitely could of been his horse winning that by a nose.. if he didn’t want to win why would he risk that at all?.. conclusion is he 100% held back but I think he came to his senses approaching the post, that’s the only explanation, either way his horse should of won without a doubt.

That's called tender handling it would have won easily

ilove these stewards in the uk in the states these stewards would be blind to that

Surely Havlin can plead the Nuremberg defence-he was just following orders.

maybe I’m just stupid but there doesn’t look much wrong with this based on the last 2 furlongs. do I need to watch the whole race to see it?

I'm going to stick up for Havlin here. Bent ride no Bad ride yes. Jockeys that sit on the inside waiting for the gap usually wind me right up especially when the horse that wins the race comes down the outside. But on this occasion not sure Havlin could have pulled the horse out as there was a bend, he could have done it much earlier of course but he probably thought the two horses in front would slowdown quicker than they did. Just a bad ride for me.

Nearly won by mistake!

Stowell was impeded I would not blame the jockey

So Stowell is a sure fire winner next race ..? Or...?

Great ride

How is the punter meant to make a few quid when shit like this is happening every other week and nothing done about... The industry is nothing without the punter!!!

Racing is just fixed 👀

I did not see a bad ride here

anybody know why he got 21 days