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RACE from East Croydon to Watford Junction: SOUTHERN or THAMESLINK/LNWR?

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Hugh and Daniel face off in a rematch race between two of the largest stations in suburban London (well Hertfordshire too). Hugh takes Southern’s hourly direct service via the West London Line, while Daniel takes Thameslink and London Northwestern via St Pancras and Euston.
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@TransportGeekery 2 месяца назад

This service used to go all the way to Rugby and Gatwick at one point.

@20Jameshall_baby 2 месяца назад

No it used to go all the way to East Croydon

@-MapEnthusiastjj4eu 2 месяца назад

There are 3 trains a day that go through Watford junction to Hemel Hempstead

@20Jameshall_baby 2 месяца назад

@@-MapEnthusiastjj4eu not anymore after the june timetable change

@fergy1442 Месяц назад

It used to go from Brighton to Watford Junction.

@RealBrik2 Месяц назад

It used to terminate at Milton Keynes Central

@Vanmanyo 3 месяца назад

Great video guys! It's an interesting service that Southern run - always busy when I've used it but they've shortened it hugely since the Gatwick-Rugby Connex days.

@maximdelmar2694 4 дня назад

I’d say the better changing option would be to take a fast southern service into Victoria, and then change to Victoria line to Euston. Probably get you to Euston before the Thameslink had even got to Blackfriars!

@-MapEnthusiastjj4eu 3 месяца назад

Watford is actually in Hertfordshire not North London

@MylesHSG 7 дней назад

Well the challenge was won just south of Wembley Central where the Southern joins off of the Up/Down reliefs onto the Down Slow which both these services use.

@oldtechnobodycaresabout 3 месяца назад

LOVE THE RACES MORE OF THEM PLEASE!

@AFCManUk 3 месяца назад

At the end of the 80's and early 90's, I used to stay at my aunts flat in Badric Court, Battersea (Actually very close to the old abandoned Battersea Station that closed and was demolished in 1940), which overlooked, what is now, the West London Line. I used to stand on the balcony and watch the freight going along there during the day, with the odd rare passenger service, and hear them in the night, and wonder where it went :D

@stalbanstransport 3 месяца назад

You should do a race from Mile End to Ealing Broadway central vs Distict lines

@briantist 2 месяца назад

Oh dear not the Euston Road!!!. Come out Thameslink St Pancras and there's short quick on-street walking route to Euston. just 500 meters. Round the Crick Institute. Marked on street from the St P exit at the top of the Thameslink barrier line! So, out onto Midland Road and the huge Green and Grey signs pointing along Brill Place. Takes literally a few minutes to inside Euston NR!

@briantist 2 месяца назад

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@jos4669 3 месяца назад

always southern for me, cheaper and avoids central london.

@Sim0nTrains 3 месяца назад

That was a good race. Really enjoyed watching it.

@quintuscrinis8032 3 месяца назад

The fact that the direct service was only 4 minutes ahead of a service with 2 changes (the link being a run on foot) is mad. Especially when the changing route had delays and started 5 minutes later - that makes it about a minute quicker even with delays!! Although when did the Southern service stop running to Milton Keynes?

@20Jameshall_baby 2 месяца назад

They stop after the May timetable change in 2022 after the 455 were scrapped

@princessdaisy6 2 месяца назад

I was at stockwell and I had to choose to get the victoria to euston and get the lnwr to watford or get the northern to balham and get the southern. The victoria/lnwr way was half an hour faster

@Andrewjg_89 2 месяца назад

Southern used to go all the way to Milton Keynes Central but now they only go as far as Watford Junction. And some used to go as far as Tring I think.

@moneycash-wg7wp 3 месяца назад

Yeah but didn't Daniel leave 5 minutes later, so if Hugh arrived less than 5 minutes before Daniel, isn't Daniel's route faster? 🤔

@HatterDave 3 месяца назад

If you're going on a direct comparison between leaving East Croydon and arriving at the destination in question then yes But there's lots of ways of looking at it, for example you could argue that the "typical" train commuter wouldn't run between St Pancras and Euston. Could also make a point that the convenience of it being direct makes Southern a better option especially if you've got luggage and/or children with you but it's also only an hourly service so yo'd need to get your times right etc

@MylesHSG 7 дней назад

@@HatterDaveis it also cheaper as it avoids zone 1?

@andyburbidge4938 2 месяца назад

If you had made the 11:54 from Euston, you would have won by around 10 minutes. The quickest route is 11:15 ECR - 11:45 STP, 11:54 EUS - 12:14 WFJ v 11:10 ECR - 12:23 WFJ.

@antigod8385 3 месяца назад

man that 350 was rammed! really chose the wrong day to do this xD

@networkerfan 3 месяца назад

another race idea is Hornsey to new cross gate great northern and London overground vs great northern Thameslink and southern because you have to change twice instead of once if you do great northern Thameslink and southern but at the same time the overground journey from Highbury and Islington to new cross gate is very slow. the timetabling means the connection at Finsbury park is great but the southern service from London Bridge to new cross gate is only half an hour so there's lots of factors that make that race interesting

@Bakerloo-Line-Fan 3 месяца назад

Can you do race to Ashford International! Southeastern High Speed vs Southeastern network

@1trebor2024 2 месяца назад

High speed should win hands down

@JellyIleas 2 дня назад

Watford junction is my local station!!

@PamelaBane 3 месяца назад

I love these challenges, thanks lads that was fun

@daviddowling432 2 месяца назад

East croydon to highbury and Islington via overground and overground and southern

@NameReveal-yy7qb 3 месяца назад

you need to do the winner takes all from gatwick airport to luton airport daniel takes southern to victoria victoria line to st pancras and luton express to luton airport hugh takes thameslink all the way

@keithparker1346 2 месяца назад

Technically the DART is a separate line from Luton Parkway to Luton Airport...but yeah that could be interesting. I wonder if anyone's done a timed race to visit all the London airports?

@Djengland2010 3 месяца назад

Yo the best RU-vidrs in the world

@Cliffordhurst951 Месяц назад

Surely, the time taken should be from the time the first train taken starts to move until passing through the ticket barrier at the destination station, not simply the first to arrive.After all, its the journey time whichmatters!

@amxgaming9153 2 месяца назад

Probably quicker to get the avanti west coast non stop to Watford Junction or a LNWR service that runs fast

@thetflthree 2 месяца назад

Well the former isn't possible because despite the fact Avanti stops some services at Watford they are intended for pick up only and Oyster isn't valid. The latter is very rare as most LNR trains will at least call at Harrow and Wealdstone first -Hugh.

@amxgaming9153 2 месяца назад

@@thetflthree didn’t know oyster weren’t valid on avanti tbh. You could probably leave later by getting a Vic train from ECR that utilises the fast lines. To skip out Selhurst to Balham.

@daviddowling432 2 месяца назад

Hi why dont u do london paddington to abbey wood by elizabeth line or south eastern

@Djengland2010 3 месяца назад

Can we please do a long form video going on all of the national rails in London together because I love trains