I once tried one of these and it may not have been the most realistic. But it did show me some things I needed to improve, and it was very helpful since I could focus a little more on myself rather than my spook-prone horse. 😂
The biggest problem with the jumping one is if you arent in a two point in real life you wont be sitting in the saddle when that horse jumps let alone lands! I would love to try one of these things especially seeing as the more time your in the saddle the better off you are and i dont always have time to go out and ride
David Rothero I agree that this may help a beginner rider, but horses aren't machines. Once you get to a higher level of riding you can't rely on a horses predictability. You have to get to know how each individual horse moves and reacts. Being on a robot doesn't teach you that.
The simulators are in no way meant to be a replacement for riding a real horse. They are not meant for people to ride for a while and then go hop on a real horse and hit a x country course. They are mainly for riders to use to see if they are unbalanced in their seat or legs, if their leg position is off, if they are unbalanced on the reins, etc. the sim has sensors all over it to record and compile data so the rider can learn where they need to improve. it is more precise than just seeing how a horse reacts or just watching a rider. however, bc technology is not yet at a point where it can perfectly mimic a horse's movement and since this has no forward movement, you do have to take that into consideration. Obviously this is not a way for someone to learn how to ride or jump bc as good as it is, it is not the same as a real horse. It is very different to riding a horse and having forward motion. So, you can use it to help with balance problems and such and to help build muscles, but it is not a replacement for riding a real horse and is not meant to be.
SpottedTiger Me too also as a horse rider why is this even created? Horses are not that perfect , they have their own styles of doing it some more gentle , some more hard or fast etc. It’s better to train normally in real life. BUT it’s good for beginners and those who need to gain some balance and get used to it.
Its a good way to get used to a proper jumping position, but yes. once you start actually jumping. You need to change your technique according to your horse. Every horse is different.
That is so true when she goes to ride she may fall off because it is just a robot real horses are a lot of hard work and they take time and effort to get used to and no silly simulator can replace your horse!
what is this jumping position???? also why is she dressed in full gear when she's not even on a really horse other wise this is a really cool invention.
It's to get a bit for feeling how things will feel when on a real horse. The vests can sometimes be a bit movement restrictive, so it's good to get used to it from the start.
That is not what it like to ride a real horse or a jump a real horse. When you jump a horse you're meant to be out of the saddle not still sat in it as if you were sitting trot or cantering. This is completely unrealistic
This is literally a machine, if I was on a machine I wouldn't go into full two-point either, because it's not about release anymore a mechanical horse doesn't need release.
Hi Lauren, have you actually tried it? i'm sure Racewood would love to hear your feedback -and you're right... it's not a horse riding simulator. It's a jumping horse simulator. hence the title of the video.
+beatboxagency That makes no difference, it's still nothing like riding a horse also when jumping you're actually meant to stand up out of the saddle, not stay sat in it
sorry, i'm not sure if you have actually tried the simulator or not... could you confirm? -as i said, i'm sure Racewood would love to know any constructive feedback if you have. as for your comment about jumping, surely your issue is with the rider there, not the machine? - i filmed the video as part of a university project 4 years ago, but if i see the lady in question i'll make sure to pass on your comments about standing up when she jumps a horse
+beatboxagency I have not tried to ride their fake horse but trust me having ridden for 4 years and watched many people ride that is not at all what it looks like to ride a horse. It's completely unrealistic
You don’t actually have to come fully out the saddle. You are supposed to fold in half at your hips and lift your lower back slightly to make it easier for the horse. But she looks like she was just sitting a really long canter stride
Her equitation is cringe worthy! Her hands are terrible, she can't keep a two point, she doesn't even have a good one, her heels are, UGH! Just terrible! If she were to ride a real horse, she would get bucked off. Not normally bucked off, bucked THE HELL off.
She's got the chicken wings going on, she doesn't an arch in her back, she can't sit the canter for her life, it looks like she is kissing the horses neck when she two points a couple of times, her knees are out too much, her shoulders aren't back, her elbows aren't bent enough, should I go on?
If yall would be logical she is not on a real horse. This simulator slows things down making it harder to get into two point plus staring at the screen you cannot find a distance and she does not have a real feel on the horses mouth because news flash the horse aint real. No horse lands that slow and looking at the screen would get most people motion sick. PLUS each horse has their own different style of jumping and some horse dont even need to you to go into two point because they are more down hill and all you need to do is stand and release. It is most likely awkward sitting on this horse because A: again it is not a real horse.
Melissa's Vlogs my horse would have jumped that easily (if you were referring to colour) he probably would have made it over if you were referring to height too. But definitely not if he was ridden straight into the wing😂
As someone who will never get to ride or own a horse, I’d love to have these. It looks really fun. Even if it isn’t EXACTLY like riding a real horse, it’s as good as I’ll get haha
ive riden one of these before multiple times when i was younger and i ride still now on reall horses the machine is meant to help with form and techniqe so you can focus with out having to worry about the horse you know how riding in a round pen or arena is compared to riding on trails or field this is like the round pen version of the round pen and although the one i rode had alot more power atleast compared to what i can see. this isnt meant to be like the olympic ring its a training tool as well as the momentum when riding is forward and back while this is down momentum which i can say from experiance makes it very hard to trot
It isnt to act as a replacement for te real thing but to be a training aid through the feedback it gives you fom the sensors within it. I was there whilst this was filmed and rode it and it was very interesting to see weight distribution and applied pressures. A useful tool :)
In response to the comments, this isn't about replacing a horse or exactly mimicking the real thing. It's simply educational, to give pointers on balance etc. It's also much easier for an instructor to spot mistakes in positioning with a stationary horse.
Yup. I heard these are about 50 thousand. It's a complete waste of money! I find it funny that a metal 'horse simulator' has fancier tack than our real horses
Breyer Awesomeness Its actually not that bad i am using one of these to make my lags stronger because i can't ride a real horse because i have a bad back its actualy really hard aswell
This would be great for people who are learning to jump or who are getting use to the gaits of a horse. I would love to learn to jump on this because my current horse is so sassy that it makes it very hard to get my jumping position right.
I think this would be great is terms of teaching the basics without harming a horse with a bad hand position (such as ruining a horses mouth) it also looks like it would be good for teaching riders their seat. However, every horse has its own personality and feelings that ridding might be modified to fit (such as keeping your heels off or having a very gentle rein approach)
This is nothing like riding a horse! Yes I ride horses too. It's a cool invention but she's just sitting there rocking back and forth and not even lifting her butt from the saddle into a 2 point.
I like the idea of being able to tell if you're putting equal weight in each of the stirrups etc, (can't read the other indicators on the screen), but that's about it.
Everybody is saying the canter is too smooth, a lot of horses have really smooth canters. A lot of the horses I ride do. They need to make a saddleseat one though.
It would be cool if the sensors were integrated into the saddle and the tack, and the results visible in augmented reality glasses, so you could compare it to a real ride.
Mya Bielby yes well you need to understand that there is no possible way for a mechanical horse to feel or move exactly like your real horse. cool your horse is better, but is this comment really necessary? no.
The horses are wired so if you put just a bit too much pressure on the mouth they will slow down automatically. I think that's what she's trying to avoid here.
The people hating on this video and complaning about it not being realistic enough: This is a robot for christ sake! The fact that we humans have come this far with technology is amazing! So unless you can make a better robot you should stop hating.
These simulations are not aimed towards people at a lower level. They're actually for people at a much higher level. They give them the opportunity to practice their jumping at any time. It's important to give your horse time off or just focus on ground work. This machine lets you continue practicing jumping. You should really learn about these simulations. They're made after extensive research of horse movements. Of course this is not exactly real riding, but it's enough to give you practice
The feeling when you see her hands wrong way. Liku Girl you are not playing piano you're riding a horse. Or maybe she is just a dressage rider but still. GRRRRRR
I think it's a great idea for improving people's seat and confidence, alongside lessons on a real horse. I have my own horse and would love to have a go! Those saying it can't do anything unexpected.... well isn't that the point? It means the rider can concentrate on the purely mechanical parts of balancing over the horse's movement, without having to worry about anything else.
This looks like a lot of fun! But everyone needs to calm down :) I don't think its intended to teach riders how to jump, in her position she barely leaves the seat which in reality would ensure a very bump ride :P I think its probably just for fun! The movement seems pretty realistic, but slow so perhaps it could have been designed more for that.
Gotta say, nice idea, but nothing like the real thing, horses move the saddle differently. You will sorta tip on each side then they move. It won’t be as smooth as this.
I think this would be a great learning tool. While learning to jump, the horse suddenly refused and I fell and badly bruised my ribs. The fault was mine. Going into proper jump position was not yet instinctive for me and I leaned too far forward impeding the horse's shoulder which was a factor in the refusal. Had I had the opportunity to practice on this device, I could have developed better form in a controlled environment which would definitely have been beneficial when on a real horse.
They should make it actually ACT like a horse.. For example, bucking. I don't know about you, but I belive a horse simulator that buck's will help your balance!!
They forget some things: 1. The horse can't throw you off or buck 2. An actual jump Were the "rider" has to stand in the saddle 3. Its kinda slow 4. Just.. *no*
I mean it’s really not fair for everyone to be comparing this to a real horse. We are all well aware that it’s not the same experience. A horse is a living, breathing animal with a mind of its own. Horses are like people at times-they have personalities, make mistakes, have off days, etc. They’re not robots, and the creators and riders of this simulator are well aware of that. They remade the experience of riding a horse and well as they could, but it’s obviously not going to be exactly the same. I don’t think that people should have as high a standard for this simulator as they do. And to everyone commenting rude things about the rider’s position 1. Riding a simulator horse is a lot different from riding a real one-you may have to ride the two a bit differently 2. So let’s just say that actually is her 2-point position. It’s incredibly rude to be saying that she shouldn’t be riding real horses because you think her position is bad. Everyone always has something to learn about horseback riding-something about themselves that they’re working on. For example, I lean forward too much. Constructive criticism is awesome when given respectfully, but flat out insulting her is just wrong. Are you trying to help her or tear her down to boost your ego?
also these machines arent rocking back and forth they go in a circular motion and jerk around quite a bit. as well as (at least the one i rode), how jolsty the horse was depented on how well you rode it
Idk why everyone is giving this so much hate, sure every horse is different and it could be better but as a baseline too for equestrians I would like to see where this goes.
