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RAD2x: ZERO-lag HDMI cables for your Classic Consoles 

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I’m incredibly proud to exclusively unveil the “Retro Analog to Digital 2x” - aka RAD2x cables. These are the first and ONLY plug & play HDMI cables I’d recommend for use with 16 and 32-bit gaming consoles! Get yours here: bit.ly/rad2xhdmi
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There are more RAD2x versions for Genesis, Saturn and PlayStation, as well as a “SNES” version compatible with every console that shipped with a SNES-style multi-out, regardless of mod or region (seriously).
To be honest, I never thought there would be such an easy way to experience classic consoles on flat-screen TV’s without sacrificing part of the gaming experience, but thanks to a partnership between RetroTINK creator Mike Chi and Rob from Retro Gaming Cables, we have just that! Mike has essentially shrunk down his RetroTINK2x into a tiny PCB that allows the 240p RGB output to be doubled to 480p HDMI. This design, combined with Rob’s excellent over-molded, shielded cables, means there’s finally an inexpensive and simple way for people to properly experience classic consoles on flat-screen TV’s!
My goal for this video was to cover as much as I can, in as short a time as possible, as I wanted to spread the word without boring people. I’ll have more videos in the coming weeks that focus on some of the more unique features, as well as compare them to other options and even provide raw capture footage for enthusiasts to check themselves. For now, this “unveiling” should cover enough to get you started.
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@ians_parks
@ians_parks 5 лет назад
Is there a reason the composite n64 video capture look so bad in the video?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
Probably a combination of scaling and the prototype cable. The final product will look exactly like a shielded composite cable through the RetroTINK2x...cause that's essentially what this is :) I'll have a follow-up video with much more detailed comparisons before pre-orders open, so you'll know exactly what to expect with the final production version.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 5 лет назад
@@RetroRGB Thanks for the clarification. Im looking forward to these more indepth follow up videos👍
@EngieDerek
@EngieDerek 5 лет назад
The N64 is the worst console to try and make look presentable on a LCD television from all the info I've seen. This looks great compared to the competitors, that being said it's still not totally there. I believe getting an HD mod is your only true way to make this system look as the creators intended.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 5 лет назад
@@EngieDerek Id say svideo linedoubled through a retrotink2x is more than presentable but i understand the n64 doesnt look all that great by default.
@odaddy47
@odaddy47 5 лет назад
Ultra HDMI Mod is the way to go.
@excadrillo99
@excadrillo99 5 лет назад
I'm glad that some of the MVPs went and made a more consumer friendly option for people looking for an easy solution! I always hate when retro game stores stock those pound cables, but the price is probably the main driver in that. Hopefully people understand that spending a little more can really make a difference.
@gabrieleriva651
@gabrieleriva651 5 лет назад
This will be my Christmas gift to every gaming-lapsed friend I have!
@Floydzabarber
@Floydzabarber 5 лет назад
This channel is great, we retro gamers are so lucky to have a channel like this on youtube. Thanks RetroRGB
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
Thank you!!
@michaeldraper6642
@michaeldraper6642 5 лет назад
There was no warning Bob, this is exactly what I've been waiting for.
@bobdotexe
@bobdotexe 5 лет назад
Kinda wish it also supported s-video for gamecube/non-rgb n64, but it's still very cool!
@Bababaaaa
@Bababaaaa 5 лет назад
That would put it over the top for me. It's a great cable by the looks of it, but s video would be great.
@CAPCOM784
@CAPCOM784 5 лет назад
Maybe they'll make a version 2 adding s-video functionality?
@MisterMorcus
@MisterMorcus 5 лет назад
Agreed, S-Video needs to be here.
@sukidable
@sukidable 5 лет назад
Yeah I was kind of stunned they didn't. Sure it's not as good as RGB but it's a damn sight better than composite. I even noticed that back when I used a CRT. S video is way better for n64.
@mscottjohnson3424
@mscottjohnson3424 5 лет назад
Your mom looks good in S Video.
@Paul_Davies77
@Paul_Davies77 5 лет назад
Excitedly bought the Pound cable for my Mega Drive and then sent it straight back. Ended up buying the Analogue Mega SG and couldn't be happier
@TobyRieper48
@TobyRieper48 4 года назад
Dang. These cables rock. I already got my OSSC but this is great for folks without a scaler
@jillhopkins4842
@jillhopkins4842 4 года назад
What an awesome breakthrough by the end of the decade regarding Retro Gaming.
@WrestlingWithGaming
@WrestlingWithGaming 5 лет назад
These really look great. Might snag one just to make things a little more convenient when streaming older consoles. Great stuff as usual.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
Yeah, a few professional streamers with full rigs have already reached out to get these as their "travel cables". I love the RetroTINk2x, but if I'm only streaming, say, PS1 this weekend and I'm on the go, one cable vs three is WAY easier to carry with me.
@bix9757
@bix9757 3 года назад
Works a charm on gamecube, clear, less fuzzy edges, brighter / sharper colours.
@merlingt1
@merlingt1 5 лет назад
I appreciate that these are "dongles" with flexible cables plugging into the console port as opposed to the console butt plugs that have been released lately.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
Agreed.
@fernandocasillasjr
@fernandocasillasjr 4 года назад
I legitimately audibly laughed.
@EmteCoke
@EmteCoke 5 лет назад
NOW THAT'S A MIC DROP!!! Great video Bob glad there's now a cheap great solution..
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 5 лет назад
The only downside is no svideo support. Which means the ntsc n64 and gamecube will default to composite, and i reeaaaally dont wanna give Eon my money for a super64. Guess my retrotink2x will have to do for now.
@TKDbruce
@TKDbruce 5 лет назад
I pre ordered mine today.. it will be here in Canada by mid November. They start shipping the cables out on OCT 31. good price tag on them $80 to the door. Best price I have found so far for what for I want to do. I'm pretty excited
@thefifthdoctor6780
@thefifthdoctor6780 Год назад
Got the rad2x black transparent limited edition for my second Saturn. My main go to is retrotink 5x.
@mrturbo757
@mrturbo757 11 месяцев назад
That's awesome you were lucky enough to snag two of these! 👀... I've been waiting years and finally was able to secure a pre-order for the next shipment coming this October for the Sega Saturn. I noted in some of the reviews and others have stated that the mini HDMI outlet has issues with whatever adapter you may utilize that can possibly cause interference in video and audio buzz... I'm hoping this has been eliminated in this newest batch, so would you care to comment on the performance and any issues or anything at all with your recent experiences please? Thank you for your time and have a great day! :)
@genestarwind4610
@genestarwind4610 2 года назад
The Retro community needs to be ashamed about how low it sub count is on this channel.
@Rumblefan
@Rumblefan 10 месяцев назад
Your comment just made me hit subscribe, especially since I’ve been getting into video quality lately. I used to just use composite av cables on every console without hdmi. Now I’ve invested in a retrotink and will be getting component and s video cables for my consoles. Also heavily debating a crt, but I don’t really have the room for one any bigger than like a small 13” one
@DaybreakerRein
@DaybreakerRein 5 лет назад
Thank you for taking a look at these cables! Informative, and I am glad there is finally a solution that isn't the Pound Cables. Hopefully sharing this around with my friends will get them playing there older systems on modern TVs!
@RetroRecollections
@RetroRecollections 5 лет назад
These look like they will be a great solution and the price is pretty reasonable! 👍
@triple_lei
@triple_lei 5 лет назад
8:45 Quick 240p/480i switching? Kind of a big deal there....
@Dustin_VG
@Dustin_VG 5 лет назад
Yeah, right? That took this from “cool for certain people” to “I may have to pick one up”.
@K3zster
@K3zster 5 лет назад
Interested to know what the deal is here - the OSSC switches pretty fast but only if your TV is able to quickly resync to the timing change. I can't see how this device can do anything that the OSSC doesn't, so I think it's still a YMMV situation.
@harrisontashjian752
@harrisontashjian752 4 года назад
My preferred solution is to use my BVM D9-H5U it only has 450 tvl so the interlacing is not super flickery and I can play in 480p on it
@Numbuh_4WD
@Numbuh_4WD 4 года назад
hmm.... the cable outputs in 480p, and switches quickly between resolutions, but always outputs 480p in itself, right? maybe this cable could fix the long wait time for resolution change with framemeister or OSSC.... or did i miss something
@germanname1990
@germanname1990 5 лет назад
Wow, boy am I glad I waited for something like this to finally come up.
@ocanaldomehmeh1893
@ocanaldomehmeh1893 2 года назад
I think that the ending actually convinced me to be honest... I hope i wont be wrong.
@Toyaddict81
@Toyaddict81 5 лет назад
Bob is the man!! This RDA2x has a de-interlacing feature named after the man himself!! 09:27
@jdeluna777
@jdeluna777 5 лет назад
WONDERFUL product! Great job Mike! Also, thanks again for your incredibly informative videos, Bob! 👍
@SmokeMonster
@SmokeMonster 5 лет назад
Rad!
@bobdotexe
@bobdotexe 5 лет назад
2x
@SEGAGuys
@SEGAGuys 2 года назад
Great video, pre-orders are open again with shipping in December 2022. I just pre-ordered my Saturn RAD2X to replace my (second) Hyperkin.
@Burb__
@Burb__ 5 лет назад
Looks great for the price. But, in all of the examples where the RAD2X was tested, I see black pixels (looks like 2x1 pixels in size) popping up at a random location of the screen, only to disappear a frame or two later. This happened on the SNES, Genesis, SMS, Saturn and N64 and you can clearly see it in the bright areas of the game capture. Since it happened in all the tests, it can't be the console output. This would bother me a lot, despite the otherwise clear picture..
@josko50
@josko50 5 лет назад
Oh, huh. I see them too. Maybe it had something to do with the encoding or capture?
@bradriley9777
@bradriley9777 5 лет назад
I was really surprised that Bob didn't mention this, or the flickering(?) in solid colors.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
Uncompressed, un-altered captures will be posted in the next video. Not sure what those are, but my first thought it always YT compression.
@lustechsource5197
@lustechsource5197 4 года назад
Thanks for the great info! I had thought I had lost my NeoGeo collection, but found it while going through my parents storage during my Christmas visit. The only major issue was the RF cable. I know, I know! It was all I had and ignorant high school me still loved it! Anyway, I remembered this video and checked to see if there was a NeoGeo version of the cable. And there is! All that's left is to wait for the cables to ship. Thanks again!
@nevermind824
@nevermind824 4 года назад
You'll be amazed at the picture difference you never saw before
@NicB-Creations
@NicB-Creations 4 года назад
Getting this for my SNES!
@Greenalink
@Greenalink 5 лет назад
From what I've read about the lack of Digital Pins on a Sega Saturn for Digital to Digital HDMI mods (UltraHDMI 64 and DCHDMI type) I think this is a must-have purchase for Sega Saturn owners trying to play games with 240p 480i switching.
@videogameobsession
@videogameobsession 5 лет назад
Seems decent for 240p content. I do sort of wish it could output 720p. I think my Samsung HDTVs add extra latency when upscaling from SD to HD video.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
I've tested about 40 TV's with the Time Sleuth and none took longer to scale 480p than 720p or 1080p (to 4K)...they were identical. Interlaced vs progressive was the only difference....scaling 480i took around five frames longer! So, you shouldn't have an issue with this cable adding lag.
@matthenzel8930
@matthenzel8930 5 лет назад
zaneiken It kind of matters. I definitely prefer the 720p output of my AVS over the 480p of the Wii. While I don't need razor sharp pixels, and even prefer the bit of softness that 720p displays, 480p is a bit softer than I prefer. 720p also works rather well when integer multipliers are factored in. Sure it's nitpicking, but that's sort of what we do when we are striving for minimal increases in visual performance.
@AlessandroCussino
@AlessandroCussino 5 лет назад
I have a bunch of consoles connected via composit video cable to my proiector. This series of cables can change my "blurry" situation. THANKS !!!
@Demokirby
@Demokirby 5 лет назад
Oh shit at that mic drop. This is such a cool product.
@Chocoburger
@Chocoburger 5 лет назад
While this product looks pretty good (though it really should have 480p support so you don't have to switch PS2 cables), I'm so glad I have 5 large CRTs (2 max out at S-video and 3 support component) so I never need to deal with modern TV issues. HD Retrovision component cables and I'm set! Plus the awesome bonus to play plenty of great light gun shooters!
@FumeiComTV
@FumeiComTV 5 лет назад
This looks like a great product! I just wish you would have shown how the AV Famicom looks using the cable.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
It'd look exactly like the AV famicom via composite through a RetroTINK. Not great, but perfect if you're just waiting for an RGB mod.
@UkraineJames2000
@UkraineJames2000 5 лет назад
Thanks for your work over the years, Bob. Great video.
@simbin.
@simbin. 5 лет назад
Happy to see a solution for the masses.. that isn't crap! I'ma keep chasin the perfect signalz ':-]
@kjkj968
@kjkj968 3 года назад
One error is the rad2x for the saturn requires usb power for model1 but not model 2.
@BarnyardCasanova
@BarnyardCasanova 5 лет назад
Now this I could get behind.
@Reformed_Borzoi
@Reformed_Borzoi 5 лет назад
Just like me and your mom
@BarnyardCasanova
@BarnyardCasanova 5 лет назад
@@Reformed_Borzoi Nice.
@Reformed_Borzoi
@Reformed_Borzoi 5 лет назад
@@BarnyardCasanova D
@kylesaver167
@kylesaver167 5 лет назад
well I'm sold, can't wait for them to be available for my RGB modded N64
@pwnswoggle
@pwnswoggle 5 лет назад
Nice touch using the rad racer attract screen for the rad2x review :)
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
LOL, I wasted so much time making that! Worth it :)
@pwnswoggle
@pwnswoggle 5 лет назад
@@RetroRGB lol I enjoyed it, definitely worth it!
@Deutschland01
@Deutschland01 5 лет назад
I need this for my NEO GEO!
@scottwilliamclarke6442
@scottwilliamclarke6442 2 года назад
I will be ordering this as the last of my Hyperkin adapters has broken - hopefully an Amiga and also a PSP (Maybe too Atari and 8 bit Commodore too) version will come in the future! Keep up the great work :)
@scottwilliamclarke6442
@scottwilliamclarke6442 2 года назад
My two megadrive RAD2X on there way :) Tomcat Alley in all it's glory soon!
@Bababaaaa
@Bababaaaa 5 лет назад
I would love this for original xbox with support for 480p. That would be amazing.
@LeoA2600
@LeoA2600 5 лет назад
The Playstation cable doesn't support 480p, so not too useful for the Xbox if they build a Xbox version of this cable. Plus this seems to be purposed with properly upscaling 240p in mind, which is a non-existent resolution for commercial Xbox software. I would love to see a good Xbox HDMI cable though, but the specific capabilities of this cable wouldn't be a good match for the platform.
@Bababaaaa
@Bababaaaa 5 лет назад
The retrotink 2x is a great option, but it does not support 480p, which is a dealbreaker for me personally.
@mohamedhussain532
@mohamedhussain532 4 года назад
I heard of the XOSBP or whatever it's called. A RU-vidr named Modern Vintage Gamer did a review of it.
@meriotroid
@meriotroid 4 года назад
super informative video! I'll definitely be preordering this thing
@johnwinzer5576
@johnwinzer5576 5 лет назад
Awesome Video Bob!! WATCH OUT THOUGH! I best stupid EON is going to just copy these and just reshell them, then up the price to $150 like they do with every product they sell. Mike Chi REALLY has to pursue legal action against stupid EON.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 5 лет назад
Mike Chi invents new retro gaming device. Eon: *its free real estate* 😏
@EmoKillsBest
@EmoKillsBest 5 лет назад
I'm very excited about these cables. I enjoy playing my retro systems on my flat screen but I always ended up having a jumble of cables with a converter jammed in between. This is a straight forward easy plug and play solution, that is totally worth the $50.
@disruptfam
@disruptfam 5 лет назад
Wait so i can use these with my pal gamecube and it uses rbg natively?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
Yes
@GameplayandTalk
@GameplayandTalk 5 лет назад
Oh man, that Nintendo support is *huge*. Love the mentioning of the much more expensive Eon cable--there was little reason to invest in one of those to begin with, but this new Rad2X cable now makes it 100% redundant.
@GameplayandTalk
@GameplayandTalk 5 лет назад
​@@SDMasterYoda In general, yes, S-Video is considerably better than composite. However, given the Nintendo 64's filtered/soft look across the majority of its library, the difference isn't as drastic as it may be with other consoles. Of course, if someone wants to drop the $150 on the Eon device, they are by all means free to spring for it. I don't think they will be getting an extra $100 in value over the Rad2X, but it's their money to throw away if they want.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
@Gameplay and Talk - Yes, exactly.
@danielblack6529
@danielblack6529 5 лет назад
Great video, Bob! Very beginner friendly! This Cable is definitely the long awaited cheap and good solution for people that are not too involved in this scene and don't want an expensive and complicated setup (yet). I do have one little gripe though: the Composite Video capture. It's unusually dark and very saturated. Is that because of the cable or just your particular N64 that you were using for capture?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
I think it's a combination of processing and the prototype's firmware. We were concentrating all our efforts on the RGB auto-detection and weren't really paying attention to composite quality. The final product will look just like shielded composite through the TINK2x though...which is shockingly good on the N64.
@danielblack6529
@danielblack6529 5 лет назад
@@RetroRGB Ok, thanks!
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 5 лет назад
People complain way too much about the Pound cables. I don't know about the SNES one, but I have one for the Dreamcast and Sega Genesis and I think they look really good. Yes, I have a scart cable solution going to a PVM as well, so I know it can look better, but it doesn't look that much better. The Pound cable for the Genesis in particular looks really good going to my 34" monitor, there's no noticeable lag that I can detect and the picture is quite sharp. If I wasn't sitting 2 ft from the screen, but instead pumping it out to my 55" TV that is 10ft away, I don't think I'd notice any issues. For the Dreamcast the situation is nearly the same just with a slightly softer image. These cables are $30, plug and play, and you're set. I haven't had the issues with a darker than expected picture on the Saturn or Genesis. With that said since I had that much luck I got the XBOX pound cable as well as I got a new TV and the a-holes took out the component video input. For the XBOX, and that one alone, it turned out there was a lot of analog noise in the signal - something I didn't have an issue with on the Dreamcast or Genesis pound cables. So maybe I got a bad one, or maybe those Pound cables work well with the Sega RGB output but not with other systems. I went ahead and returned the XBOX cable. But in any case, if you just want a simple and cheap plug in play solution then just pick up a Pound cable for $30 - at least for the Sega systems.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
Please stop telling people to buy Pound cables. They're garbage and people who spread misinformation that they're "fine" are WHY these crappy cables get bought. I'm finishing a video that will go live soon that explains all of this. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
@MGSBigBoss77
@MGSBigBoss77 5 лет назад
Take it easy man, Pound cables came out when there wasn't any HD upscalers available so Pound cornered the market for making HDMI upscalers. For retro consoles at large. Rod Munch cannot be blamed if Pound are the commercial product which is mostly known out there and is available for purchase more readily can he? If you want RAD2x cables to takeover then it better be a product thats backed by rich investors who'll bank alot of money and support so RAD2x takes Pound technology's spot for retro console HD cables then! Let's just remember that the most technologically sound piece of technology doesn't always win the attention of consumers alright Betamax Vs VHS tape of the 1980's. i.e. Betamax was superior but lost that consumer war. And the later; HD-DVD Vs Blu-ray (many claimed that HD DVD was actually better?) of the early to mid 2000's. and we're using Blu-rays today aren't we. Pound may not technology be the best tech far as the HD cable thing goes? but it is what alot of gamers are currently using however, there's no crime in that is there. Sure i'll go for this Rad2x cable when there's one for the Sega Saturn and European Megadrive/Genesis. But its gotta be made far more available however alright!
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 5 лет назад
@@RetroRGB That is absolutely not my experience with the cables - at least for the Genesis and Dreamcast. Now with the XBOX that was the case. I don't know if it's poor quality control or not - but the Genesis cable, in particular, everything looks and runs fantastic.
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 5 лет назад
@@MGSBigBoss77 But my point is my experience with the Pound cables is not what he showed. I'm not a complete noob at this and I find them to be completely acceptable for their price - at least 2 of the 3 Pound cables I used this was the case. As said above the XBOX pound cable for me was not good - it had a ton of analog noise in it - but I tried it out since I was impressed with the Genesis cable in particular (and the Dreamcast cable, while a little soft, still looked way better than I had ever seen it since I never had a VGA box). Yes, there are better solutions, but for the money, these cables will make games look better than 99% of the American audience has ever seen, at least on the Genesis and Dreamcast. Almost no one here ever saw the RGB or VGA output on those systems - so if that's where you're coming from they look amazing.
@emmettturner9452
@emmettturner9452 5 лет назад
Woah, that N64 composite capture is WAY off. Why is it so... red?
@pokepress
@pokepress 5 лет назад
Emmett Turner yeah, it looks dark and oversaturated.
@emmettturner9452
@emmettturner9452 5 лет назад
@@nickwallette6201 LOL! ...but seriously: I've installed hundreds of UltraHDMI kits into NTSC consoles and testing with composite is part of my workflow. There is something drastically wrong with what we are seeing here. It's abnormal even for NTSC composite on N64.
@Sirotaca
@Sirotaca 5 лет назад
I was thinking the same thing. Shouldn't be an issue with the chipset either, since composite looks fine through the RetroTINK-2X. Wonder what's going on with that. Also curious about the black speckles that you can see occasionally in all the captures.
@emmettturner9452
@emmettturner9452 5 лет назад
@@Sirotaca I need to look again but if it's what I think it is: The N64 RCP (GPU) actually renders with little single-pixel holes all over everything but a final stage in the RCP render path tries to detect these holes and fill them in using surrounding pixel data. It doesn't get nearly all of them so you see black flecks appearing on a lot of stuff. Still looks far more stable than PSX with all the texture warping. ;)
@Sirotaca
@Sirotaca 5 лет назад
@@emmettturner9452 It's definitely not just that, since it's visible in at least the SNES and Genesis captures as well.
@ZBR_ProXP
@ZBR_ProXP 5 лет назад
love the Remute track in the background
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
Me too! SO NICE of him to let me use his amazing music!
@importaku
@importaku 4 года назад
ps1 cable is a gamechanger as my framemeister is garbage at resolution switching, playing pop n music on it is impossible as by the time the game switches from the music selection screen to the start of the song the resolution switch on the meister is happening so slow that the song is already playing and i have missed loads of notes by the time the picture comes back.
@ZewingFZC
@ZewingFZC 5 лет назад
Freaking awesome I'll definitely need to pick some of these up, can't beat cost efficient hdmi solutions
@emmettturner9452
@emmettturner9452 5 лет назад
Finally! This is truly exciting. Been expecting something like this. Video is still playing ads. I assume this is based on the same tech as RetroTink 2X?
@emmettturner9452
@emmettturner9452 5 лет назад
Glad to see that it is! I can see this having a huge effect on demand for UltraHDMI. Even though I sell UltraHDMI, I'm glad there's finally an alternative under $100 which I can recommend. Thanks for letting us know, Bob!
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
Well, UltraHDMI is better in every possible way, except two: You'll actually be able to buy this and you don't have to install it. That's a big deal for some, but if you can mod (and find an UltraHDMI), then absolutely do that instead. No disrespect meant to the RAD2x, it's just a fair opinion.
@emmettturner9452
@emmettturner9452 5 лет назад
@@RetroRGB A lot of people contact me to ask about UltraHDMI when they hear about the group buy and I'm the first to admit that it isn't worth it for everyone. I like to list alternatives along with typical prices, strengths, and weaknesses to avoid any kind of buyer's remorse. RetroTink 2X and these cables have one more big advantage than the ones you mention: UltraHDMI makes no attempt to de-interlace 480i. It just pipes out that 480i image as 480p or scales the interlaced frame as progressive to 720p/1080p, complete with interlacing artifacts. A digital display will also make no attempt to de-interlace with any of those resolutions, since it's technically a progressive frame of interlacing artifacts by that point. Granted, the N64 is primarily 240p and it's barely noticeable in 480i menus but the combing in a 480i game can be pretty distracting. Not with these!
@swungsolid
@swungsolid 5 лет назад
Emmett Turner sounds like they need to re-make/improve the ultra hdmi mod to do bob-deinterlacing. An hdmi mod that cost $400 for n64 that doesn’t de-interface is kinda stupid. But hey if there isn’t many games that output 480i on it I guess stick with the ultra hdmi mod?
@swungsolid
@swungsolid 5 лет назад
Emmett Turner what route would you go?
@tuxedo_mask23
@tuxedo_mask23 3 года назад
So I've finally got one for my Saturn!
@djopulence
@djopulence 5 лет назад
Looking forward to the “My Life in Gaming” review.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
What's wrong with this one?
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 5 лет назад
@@RetroRGB lol
@djopulence
@djopulence 5 лет назад
@@RetroRGB Nothing. I just would like their (additional) take on it.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
And you don't think it's rude to comment on a video I just spent weeks on that you'd like to see another? RU-vid comments baffle me.
@djopulence
@djopulence 5 лет назад
@@RetroRGB no, and you're going to get more views for it. this is a great product--a game changer. you're going to get praised for it. ever heard of a second opinion? sheesh.
@voltz15
@voltz15 3 года назад
Hey Adam! Your fav RGB scaler was labled "JUNK", Ha-Ha!
@ralphbrown1814
@ralphbrown1814 5 лет назад
Is there any reason to get these if I already have a retrotink 2x?
@bluecollargamer7071
@bluecollargamer7071 5 лет назад
Probably not.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 5 лет назад
@@bluecollargamer7071 If you want to simplify your cable management for a single console. Like im constantly swapping out my snes and n64 with the retrotink2x. If i got one of these for my snes then i can just leave my n64 svideo cable in my retrotink2x and just forget about it.
@ralphbrown1814
@ralphbrown1814 5 лет назад
@@ians_parks You could always get an svideo switch which would also solve your problem.
@jamon1567
@jamon1567 5 лет назад
The tink 2x doesn't take RGB right? This will pull RGB from a stock SNES and Genesis.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 5 лет назад
@@jamon1567 the retrotink2x accepts comp, svideo, and component. Hd retrovision makes component cables for snes and genesis that essentially convert the raw rgb signal to YPbPr so that they can be used with the retrotink2x and any monitor that has component inputs.
@ZombieTechie
@ZombieTechie 4 года назад
This channel and my life in gaming are amazing. This video makes the Nintendo RAD2x seem better than the Eon Super 64. That i disagree with. It should be noted that without an internal mod, the Eon Super 64 is a better plug and play solution (in picture quality than price) because it upscales an S-video signal, whereas the RAD2x only does composite unless the console has been modded.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 года назад
I'll have a follow-up video that focuses on the Super64 vs RAD2x. I think you'll be surprised at the real-world differences. I should be done a week or so from now.
@ZombieTechie
@ZombieTechie 4 года назад
@@RetroRGB thanks for the info. I initially ordered the rad2x and didnt realize at first it lacked s-video. I have a tim worthington board that i never had installed so I'll probably go that route instead. I've always wanted to see that board with an ossc vs an hdmi mod. There must not be many in the the wild.
@EposVox
@EposVox 5 лет назад
WOAH
@chadballew
@chadballew 5 лет назад
FINALLY someone got it right?
@Theninjagecko
@Theninjagecko 5 лет назад
Almost. If it supported 480p and have a scanline overlay option it would have been godly.
@danielbirchal
@danielbirchal 5 лет назад
There's no Genesis 1 version?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
There will be, but for now you can just get one this to use with it: www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/32X-PATCH-CABLE-WITH-FEMALE-9-PIN-DIN?tracking=5543fb4c077bb
@AlaskaPersonalTrainingOnline
@AlaskaPersonalTrainingOnline 5 лет назад
@@RetroRGB Thanks for the quick reply to this. Has the team mentioned any ETA for the Genesis model 1 cable, by any chance?
@gjk2012
@gjk2012 4 года назад
@@RetroRGB I have the Sega Genesis 1 with an 8 pin. Will the 8 pin be available?
@BennyBsolo
@BennyBsolo 5 лет назад
This is definitely RAD !
@Latin00032
@Latin00032 5 лет назад
Bruh! Wash the stainless steel siding of the garbage can.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
LOL, it legit didn't look like that in person. The friggin camera picks up EVERYTHING.
@RetroSho
@RetroSho 4 года назад
Good enough for even just N64. Gonnd pick up one for that alone!
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 4 года назад
N64 looks great. I'm having two more videos in the next month that feature RAD2x footage. You'll be happy with your purchase.
@RetroSho
@RetroSho 4 года назад
@@RetroRGB Word! Can't wait for that video! Thanks for putting them out there for this product; you're selling and promoting it very well.
@JJernqvist
@JJernqvist 5 лет назад
The N64 composite looks very dark and overly saturated, way more than on a CRT.
@Toyaddict81
@Toyaddict81 5 лет назад
Johan Jernqvist I thought the same...
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 5 лет назад
Bob claims this not to be final. Its simply protoype footage and they were more concerned with the rgb footage than composite at the time. The final product should look identical to a properly shielded composite cable.
@JJernqvist
@JJernqvist 5 лет назад
@@ians_parks Okay, good to know then! I might actually buy this. :)
@1chiTheKiller
@1chiTheKiller 5 лет назад
I'd seen these cables before but didn't know anything about them. They look like a fantastic solution at a totally decent price. Also, has anyone noticed how his video and audio are not perfectly synced up? Every time he's on screen the audio is off and it drives me crazy, but the info is so helpful, I'm gonna keep watching. Hopefully he can figure that out. :)
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
It's so weird - Some people say it's perfect and others have trouble with the video sync. The file on my hard drive is perfect. I wonder what's happening...
@KreepaEvoX
@KreepaEvoX 5 лет назад
In for the saturn version
@kramerdesign9443
@kramerdesign9443 5 лет назад
This is amazing! Picking up the Saturn version *immediately*
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
Pre-orders for the Saturn version aren't live yet. Should be next month.
@kramerdesign9443
@kramerdesign9443 5 лет назад
@@RetroRGB I'll only have the $50 next month, perfect timing! KA-CHING
@HEADRUSH444
@HEADRUSH444 5 лет назад
Good thing influencers will keep shilling EON and Pound garbage. Hope those cables will make it big. Not switching from my (RGC) RGB-SCART cables + OSSC anytime soon but that multi-out cable is mighty tempting! Maybe as a present?
@Inv8erZlM
@Inv8erZlM 5 лет назад
I would tell people considering the retrotink2x to save up for an OSSC since they care enough to spend some real money. At this price that changes! This looks like an actual middle ground.
@marymarshall8847
@marymarshall8847 5 лет назад
nice .Thanx for the video Bob
@Inv8erZlM
@Inv8erZlM 5 лет назад
Is there a reason S-Video had to be left out?
@MrMegaManFan
@MrMegaManFan 5 лет назад
Damn! Where has THIS product been all my life??
@orbitingdecay6797
@orbitingdecay6797 3 года назад
I have that mug , I love it and the Pipe one too.
@InvictvsNox
@InvictvsNox 5 лет назад
"just designed to take your money" EON btfo lmao
@bryanjones0185
@bryanjones0185 3 года назад
I guess I should look into buying a rad2x for my genesis 3. I bought a pound cable (returning it) and my Tv didn't seem to want to process the signal correctly. Same with the hd retrovision equivelant component cable made my retro gaming cables for my model 1 genesis (which I sold last month). Both consoles looked like a worn VHS tape film with flickering and jittering.
@flow221
@flow221 5 лет назад
Only seller is in the UK? Urgh.
@mrmaestrom
@mrmaestrom 5 лет назад
That's better than if the only seller were in the US. International postage costs are insane from the USA.
@flow221
@flow221 5 лет назад
@@mrmaestrom Not better for me.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
Shipping's cheap enough that it won't be much different than a US store. Anyone that's bought from RGC before knows the shipping is good.
@dionr1168
@dionr1168 5 лет назад
@@RetroRGB Would any additional customs taxes be an issue?
@biscuitsngravy3566
@biscuitsngravy3566 5 лет назад
Is there ANY WAY that the genesis 2 cable would support 32x CD and Saturn??? That would be AMAZING!!! ( For me at least)
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
32x yes, saturn no
@cybernitemusic
@cybernitemusic 5 лет назад
Great video! I would have loved one of these when starting out. I’ve gone down the rgb rabbit hole though but glad others might not have to!
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
Yeah, these aren't for people with full RGB (or component) OSSC setups. Great for beginners though!
@andreg3912
@andreg3912 5 лет назад
The cable looks really interesting, but the video feels more like a retro gaming cables commercial than a product review.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
So, I shouldn't get excited when I like a product?
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 5 лет назад
Thats why there will be more in depth follow up videos. If anything this was more of an unveiling and Bob is clearly proud of what Mike and Retro Gaming Cables have come up with.
@andreg3912
@andreg3912 2 года назад
I was skeptical at first but after using a RAD2x for 6 month now I'm really happy with it.
@iCach0
@iCach0 5 лет назад
Very nice! I'm glad there's finally a solution like this. The only thing I didn't like about them is that they seem to use mini-HDMI connectors, which I loathe.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 5 лет назад
More room on the board i guess. This is by Mike Chi afterall, the retrotink2x also used mini hdmi.
@fweefwames
@fweefwames 5 лет назад
Finally and ad that I don't regret watching
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
Um, was that some kind of passive-aggressive dig? This isn't an "ad", this is a review of a product i'm excited about. I don't get paid to make these.
@fweefwames
@fweefwames 5 лет назад
@@RetroRGB it came up as an ad in my suggestive videos dude you paid for it to be and ad stop playing dumb lmao
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
Oh!!!!! LOL, I'm so sorry!!! Yeah, I spent about 50 hours making that video, so I wanted to promote it. My bad...I'm just so used to people coming in hard: "Hey asshole, you were obviously paid to make that video! The pound cables are exactly the same and you're lying!" Sorry, I try my best to reply positively, but I'm just used to getting shit on :)
@fweefwames
@fweefwames 5 лет назад
@@RetroRGB it is the internet so i do not blame you love the product btw lol
@nextlevelgamez9243
@nextlevelgamez9243 4 года назад
Very informative video. Thanks!
@orangezombies
@orangezombies 4 года назад
🙌 thank you for this video! So much good information in the sea of nonsense out there.
@victoralejandro8151
@victoralejandro8151 4 года назад
You definitely saved me some money. Thanks.
@abletothink
@abletothink 5 лет назад
I'm probably going to get the PS1 version because of that 240p to 480i switching. Wish I could get it now because I want to play Silent Hill this October but looks like I'm going to play it on my PS3 which sucks.
@buggs9950
@buggs9950 5 лет назад
It's worth pointing out that in europe we almost always have component and RGB over scart inputs on modern TV's. This doesn't mean you don't have to consider lag but it does mean you don't necessarily have to tit about with hdmi converters.
@sonicpelaaja
@sonicpelaaja 5 лет назад
Fantastic review!
@crohns8263
@crohns8263 5 лет назад
"Those other crappy cables".... bold statement. Maybe those "crappy" cables is what some people can afford. It's good to have options, and something is better than nothing.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZUrqWN4AcJc.html
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
By the way, it's not about the money. I'll have a video soon showing how you can get an excellent experience for as cheap as possible. Sorry, I should have started with that...but the other video should be a help.
@Small818
@Small818 8 месяцев назад
Amazing video!! Thank you :) Also, what did you use for your Nintendo power frame?! I cannot find that size anywhere
@Small818
@Small818 8 месяцев назад
Also, I just subbed 😊🤙🏼
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 8 месяцев назад
Thank you! If you mean power supply, these are the best: www.retrorgb.com/triad.html
@Small818
@Small818 8 месяцев назад
@@RetroRGByou’re welcome buddy! No sorry I meant the Metroid poster in the background . That’s Nintendo power , isn’t it ?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 8 месяцев назад
Oh!!! LOLLLL, I'm sorry, I was half asleep when I responded! I bought a reprint off a random eBay store years ago. You should still be able to find them.
@Small818
@Small818 8 месяцев назад
@@RetroRGB hahaha, all good brother!! I have a bunch of Nintendo power posters , jist cannot find frames 🥴. Also I just preordered one of these :) I’m pumped !
@Momo4060i
@Momo4060i 11 месяцев назад
So, is the picture quality for ps1 pretty much the same as if you use a ps3 to play ps1 games on a modern tv?
@LaskyLabs
@LaskyLabs 4 года назад
I really need to triple bypass my Genesis 2 I use HD retrovision on my CRT. Looks lovely, it was probabaly one of the last consumer CRT displays, flat screened and very sharp.
@cyo_corner
@cyo_corner 4 года назад
Could you do a side-by-side of the ultraHDMI and RGBmodded N64 with etim's RGB mod+rad2x? I'm at a stand still at what to mod into my n64
@Okazu84
@Okazu84 4 года назад
Hopeless to even think about a 8-bit NES compatibility ? Indeed I see no mention of the Nes Multi-Out anywhere on retrocable UK or retroRGB itself. I guess it's because it doesn't output actual RGB signals and the RAD2x tech is based on handling those and not composite signals, correct ? Still great news for my SMS and Snes though, thanks for the video !
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 4 года назад
If it doesnt detect an rgb signal it defaults to composite
@Okazu84
@Okazu84 4 года назад
@@ians_parks Thanks for the valuable insight. I take it does work sending a 480p signal to a monitor when connected to a french NES Multi Out connector albeit in composite format (which is what any unmodified Nes outputs through the cable anyway) ?
@RexBuyeo
@RexBuyeo 5 лет назад
Since I'm a Sega guy, I'm sold on these. I pray that Nintendo enthusiasts will be able to purchase a newer version that can give the option of s-video if no RGB is found.
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
Why S-Video though? I'm not being sarcastic, I honestly don't get it. GameCube has the Carby and N64 has RGB mods, so what would S-Video offer? Also, on N64, composite and S-Video are pretty similar.
@kelvsyc8676
@kelvsyc8676 5 лет назад
@@RetroRGB There is an audience for playing on unmodified consoles, for one. A Carby won't help you if all you have is a DOL-101, and the video makes it look like RAD2x is noticeably worse compared to S-Video cables and a RetroTINK 2x, which is more than double the price.
@RexBuyeo
@RexBuyeo 5 лет назад
It really surprises that someone like you is telling people to not use the best possible analog signal available to them. Not everyone can afford or are willing to spend the money for those things. N64 S-video is not too much better but you might as well be getting the best possible picture $50 can get you. Gamecube Composite and S-video are night and day. Makes a huge difference in especially in games like Baten Katos, and this is with the supposedly bad $15 universal S-video cables from game stop. Either way, this is a good product and I hope enough modded N64 owners purchase this for a V2.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 5 лет назад
@@RetroRGB There are tons of people who are too hesitant to install or pay for an rgb mod. Regardless how much of a difference svideo is over composite it still looks better and people are still going to prefer it.
@trexslapfight
@trexslapfight 5 лет назад
Quality review as always.
@stabinghobo57
@stabinghobo57 4 года назад
I found the GUNDAM.
@Lakster37
@Lakster37 5 лет назад
So is the RGB->HDMI converter part of these cables essentially the same as the RetroTink? Does that mean you're essentially buying another RetroTink with each cable?
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
Yes and yes. So, if you've already bought a RetroTINK, this isn't for you...but if you're just getting into the scene and want an easy way to get started: Perfect.
@Lakster37
@Lakster37 5 лет назад
@@RetroRGB Thanks for the clarification!
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 5 лет назад
@@RetroRGB Its less cables for me to swap out of my retrotink 2x tho if i have dedicated hdmi cables for both my snes and genesis. I can just leave my n64 svideo cable in my retrotink2x and forget about it.
@ApolloniosIX
@ApolloniosIX 5 лет назад
best retro man in the Universe!
@Walaoumpa
@Walaoumpa 5 лет назад
Learned about this after getting a retrotink 2x and high quality s-video cables for my Saturn and N64, so probably won't need these. That said - I would have jumped on these if I did not have my current setup. There's even an argument on getting a Saturn cable because of RGB + simplifying cable management but that will be for a later day.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 5 лет назад
I agree. I already have a retrotink2x but its still worth looking into atleast for cable managment.
@Walaoumpa
@Walaoumpa 5 лет назад
@@ians_parks It all adds up though and unlike other parts of the retro gaming setup, not easy to recover money back. Especially for a little bit of convinience on just 2 systems (just having a cable tie and swapping is a minor inconvienience - having RGB on Saturn is a plus for sure). Glad the money I spent so far went into good sources (custom handmade s-video cables from Poland + Retrotink).
@80sretrogamergamingarchive90
@80sretrogamergamingarchive90 5 лет назад
I have a 4K tv a master system and megadrive both using s video I have not had one problem and never have needed any other device
@RetroRGB
@RetroRGB 5 лет назад
That's nice
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