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Radio Direction Finding with the KrakenSDR | Radio Direction Finding Series 

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Today's video is the first in a new series of videos on Radio Direction Finding. We'll be kicking off the series with this advanced and awesome tool called the KrakenSDR and use it to track down a signal.

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@EmCommSolutions
@EmCommSolutions Месяц назад
I can't wait for the Meshtastic direction finding tests. I have been told many times by people that they could find my Meshtastic radio in minutes.
@kerbalairforce8802
@kerbalairforce8802 Месяц назад
Do they know meahtastic radios operate in common frequencies that they'll have to sift through?
@beekydogg
@beekydogg Месяц назад
@@kerbalairforce8802probably not 😂
@Hebdomad7
@Hebdomad7 Месяц назад
A single radio can be quickly located. A cluster of radios on the same frequency is much more difficult because you need to be able to isolate the different radios and track each one by one. Not impossible, just requires a bit more effort.
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
People on the Internet love to run their mouths 😂 We'll be putting it to the test though!
@laborspy
@laborspy Месяц назад
Well just need to write a plug-in to time send. Say turn on and send for 5mins each hour on an overlap with each node, but offset the times each hour based on maybe a static setting. It wouldn’t be full proof, but would make it more annoying to find.
@Intel_8
@Intel_8 Месяц назад
I certainly don't need a Kraken but I definitely want one!
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
It's been a lot of fun!
@huseinabdul1
@huseinabdul1 Месяц назад
Diddo!!!
@milesprower6641
@milesprower6641 27 дней назад
Absolute mood (nor can I afford one >.
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel 27 дней назад
Definitely not the cheapest option in the world, but we'll be covering more affordable options in the series 🤙
@mineton1293
@mineton1293 19 дней назад
Super excited for this series. Direction finding is just so interesting!
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel 18 дней назад
It really is! More to come soon!
@georgejoseph4164
@georgejoseph4164 Месяц назад
Best voice on an ATIS I’ve heard in the US. All the rest have been way too fast. Great video, many thanks.
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
Sure thing! We have some great controllers here.
@Thousand_yard_King
@Thousand_yard_King Месяц назад
I was going to say the same thing. I could clearly hear it and understand it. Best one so far
@hoopztube
@hoopztube Месяц назад
Very nice. I have seen several videos on the Kraken system before but this is a nice short summery of how it works.
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
Thanks! More to come as we'll go after some progressively harder targets.
@milesprower6641
@milesprower6641 27 дней назад
You should totally try it with Dipoles tuned for FM band and use it to receive multiple stations on the same channel at the same time!
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel 27 дней назад
That would be an interesting experiment! I suspect when we get into testing Meshtastic signals it will be similar.
@darylowen6855
@darylowen6855 Месяц назад
Keysight has been doing something like this for about 20 yrs except there are not 5 receivers in a single box, but multiple receivers that can be synchronized together via GPS and ethernet. It uses the same principle call time distance of arrival or TDA. Think of it as a big array of receivers that all report to a PC to analyze the data and report back the direction of the signal and approximate location. I’m surprised no one hasn’t done this before using SDR dongles or HackRF modules. All that needs to be done is to make the LOs and clock on the digitizer’s coherent to a GPS standard.
@darylowen6855
@darylowen6855 Месяц назад
Just think how useful this might be for identifying jamming signals on ham radio.
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
Might be more doable now that the software is there.
@EgonSorensen
@EgonSorensen 28 дней назад
5 years ago SignalsEverywhere put this on RU-vid: Radio Direction Finding Equipment KerberosSDR Coherent 4 x RTL SDR RDF Setup :ø)
@tedds7935
@tedds7935 28 дней назад
And there are now kiwisdr web sdrs publicly available which you can use using the tdoa plugin to geolocate signals from 0-30mhz
@SpyStaMia
@SpyStaMia 21 день назад
This was very informative … thank you!
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel 20 дней назад
Sure thing! Thanks for watching!
@tbne712
@tbne712 Месяц назад
Hell yeah. Direction finding is one of the topics I was hoping for on this excelent channel.
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
More to come!
@KiLLaDaTa
@KiLLaDaTa Месяц назад
Bro! Get out of my head I've been wondering about how to do RDF lately. Love it!!
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
🔮 more to come!
@ulyssesbradfield8558
@ulyssesbradfield8558 Месяц назад
…how about putting it on a drone/fixed wing
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
It would be a heavy payload so it would need to be a rather large aircraft
@poland153
@poland153 Месяц назад
Cool new topic, hardware expensive but hey that’s how professional equipment goes lol. So it’s trying to micro triangulate with those 5 inputs, and then outputting to the user more like a compass/wayfinder. Nice that’s it’s more direct than having to drive in a circle around the target while taking radio measurements to triangulate lol
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
Haha, yep! This makes it a breeze, but at a price of course.
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 29 дней назад
It doesn't "micro triangulate". It determines the bearing based on the phase difference of the received signals. That just gives one bearing. The bearing alone doesn't tell you where the transmitter is. You have to take multiple bearings along a baseline that isn't in the same direction as the target in order to get bearing shift. That shift is what allows you to locate the transmitter. This is how triangulation works in any bearing determining DF system.
@poland153
@poland153 29 дней назад
@@stargazer7644 right, ideally you’d circle the target
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 29 дней назад
@@poland153 Circling isn't required or even desirable. All that is needed is a baseline down one side of the target long enough to swing the bearing significantly farther than the average bearing error plus the minimum bearing resolution so the solution will converge with the desired accuracy.
@chattphotos
@chattphotos Месяц назад
Nice! Definitely worth it to learn RDF and I look forward to more!
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
Thanks! More to come!
@thuff3207
@thuff3207 Месяц назад
I do think the KrakenSDR is a very useful tool and i look forward to seeing you do more with it.
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
More to come soon!
@EdBradley-x9k
@EdBradley-x9k 29 дней назад
Someone has made a good COT converter for ATAK which works well. I've fed it into a tak server and distributed the output so others can see the direction and location of an RF source. Plenty of room for improvement but for a small price, it's a fairly good capability
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel 29 дней назад
That's awesome! Will have to check it out and see if there's anything I can contribute to the project.
@frequencywatchers
@frequencywatchers 27 дней назад
This Should Be Made In Some Sort of Sport Where You Need To Track Down Transmitters For SOme Prices Or Products :) It Would Be Pretty Cool To bring Together People With This Interest !
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel 27 дней назад
A lot of ham radio clubs do this and call it "fox hunting". They'll do it at a lot of ham fest around here. Definitely look into some of the ham radio groups in your area and see if they do any fox hunting and join in on the fun! Even if you don't have a ham radio license, you can join in since this activity doesn't require any transmitting.
@auroran0
@auroran0 9 дней назад
I'm looking for new RDF tools for our search and rescue team. KrakenSDR looks really promising, (I was tinkering w/ KerberosSDR previously.)
@TheGmr140
@TheGmr140 Месяц назад
Really cool project, thanks 😊😊
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
Sure thing! Thanks for watching!
@P_RO_
@P_RO_ 29 дней назад
Better than trying to carry a full-size Wullenweber array in your shirt pocket 🤣
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel 29 дней назад
Yep, a bit more portable 😂
@KA4UPW
@KA4UPW Месяц назад
Now i need one.. Dont know why, but i need it!
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
Haha, I said the same 😂
@KA4UPW
@KA4UPW Месяц назад
​@@The_Comms_Channel Do you get to keep the eval unit?
@bruehlt
@bruehlt Месяц назад
I want one of these so bad! I wish there was a way to use offline mapping to make it a truly offline tracking solution. I know that you can just use the lobes as you demonstrated.
@user-jt5vm3mi1w
@user-jt5vm3mi1w Месяц назад
Why
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
It's an awesome tool for sure! You can actually download the maps for offline use as well.
@thehaguefortnite_163
@thehaguefortnite_163 Месяц назад
Nice tool!
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
For sure!
@markharrison1160
@markharrison1160 Месяц назад
Fun way to spend some money
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
Sure is 😂
@TaseenAli
@TaseenAli 20 дней назад
Will the software work with other hardware? Like 70MHz-6GHz 2R2T B210 Mini?
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel 19 дней назад
Not sure on that, but it's likely only capable of working with the KrakenSDR
@randykitchleburger2780
@randykitchleburger2780 7 дней назад
Setup a very hard target I'd like to see
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel 7 дней назад
Will do!
@randykitchleburger2780
@randykitchleburger2780 7 дней назад
@@The_Comms_Channel Looking forward to it! 😁
@liamspie
@liamspie 26 дней назад
do not know much about sdr, but wonder is it possible to find fpv drone pilot, and even, is it possible to find location the drone itself? and if somebody has the same device, can this device find location of your device?
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel 26 дней назад
Finding the drone pilot should be a bit easier than the drone. If the drone is transmitting location data in clear-text, that data could be intercepted. As far as locating the same device, assuming you're talking about SDR, that is not possible with most SDRs as they receive signals only and don't transmit.
@liamspie
@liamspie 25 дней назад
@@The_Comms_Channel thanks for answering
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel 25 дней назад
Sure thing!
@423tech
@423tech Месяц назад
I was not expecting this video to feature locations only an hour from me 😅
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
You'll see more locations nearby soon 😄
@423tech
@423tech Месяц назад
@The_Comms_Channel I'm in Charleston, TN off of Highway 11, feel free to stop by sometime to see my shop!
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
Appreciate it! I believe there's a good node in Athens that you may be able to reach from there.
@freedom1307821
@freedom1307821 21 день назад
Hi. Nice video. I am looking for version 1.322. They don't have it any more in github. Do you have this image?
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel 20 дней назад
Pi image?
@sm3dlaserinspiration
@sm3dlaserinspiration 20 дней назад
Yes. For Pi 4 ver 1.322
@freedom1307821
@freedom1307821 17 дней назад
@@The_Comms_Channel yes. IMG with ver 1.322
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel 17 дней назад
@@freedom1307821 I don't have it, but it can be found using the Wayback Machine website
@freedom1307821
@freedom1307821 17 дней назад
​@@The_Comms_ChannelAnd I can download it?
@jhonsiders6077
@jhonsiders6077 27 дней назад
That will get someone shot if they use it to harass some of the pirates out here !
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel 27 дней назад
Time for armored vehicles 😂
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 Месяц назад
Where's the Apple app?
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
The Apple app is currently in development. Not sure when it will be released
@frankthetank3342
@frankthetank3342 24 дня назад
Pseudo-doppler and correlative interferometry do NOT like multipath
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel 24 дня назад
They definitely do not
@dimitri246
@dimitri246 Месяц назад
I was wondering how they track people who are illegally broadcasting. This is interesting.
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
The FCC has a more advanced version but similar concept. But with this, we finally have an affordable and capable tool
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 Месяц назад
There are much cheaper and simpler ways. Just use a beam antenna for vhf and higher, or a loop on HF. Any directional antenna will give you a direction toward the transmitter.
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel Месяц назад
This is much quicker
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 Месяц назад
@@The_Comms_Channel As a fox hunter with decades of experience using many different DF systems I think I can challenge that assertion. I notice you just assumed one of the towers was the transmitter, and you didn't determine which one of them was actually transmitting. The Kraken system isn't much different from doppler DF systems we've been using since the 80s.
@The_Comms_Channel
@The_Comms_Channel 29 дней назад
Yes, this wont pinpoint exactly which tower, but you're not going to find the general location of a signal miles away within a few minutes like this will. As mentioned earlier in the video, we'll be covering the traditional methods where we'll use attenuators, harmonics to narrow down a signals location once we get to the general location of it.
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