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Rafael Aghayev vs René Smaal. Final Kumite Male -75kg. 48th European Karate Championships 

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Rafael Aghayev of Azerbaijan vs René Smaal of The Netherlands. Final Kumite Male -75kg. 48th European Karate Championships.
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@ScottM1011
@ScottM1011 10 лет назад
Guys you have to realize, the 'dancing', bobbing, weaving, etc is simply part of the strategy. If they stand still they will be a sitting target for the opponent. As for why it looks sloppy, fights don't look like they do on TV and movies. Those are well choreographed and perfectly practiced hundreds of times. Real-time is much more reactive and thus the technique is not pretty. These guys can do some very pretty stuff on an open mat. The last thing, why is there so few actual exchanges of hitting? Where is all the aggressiveness? Why is it not like MMA? This is a sport, with specific rules. Think of it like Boxing, there are many types of hits you cannot do in boxing. There is 'dancing' around each other, bobbing, weaving, stalking each other around the mat to get the perfect setup. The exchanges are fewer, but pretty intense. MMA is not the same sport, it is more about the ground fighting and wrestling than the stand up striking, so it does appear more interesting. Also, this sport is high level elite stuff, like Olympic level, so they have many rules for safety. Believe me, these guys can kick some butt in real life if pressed, but they are not in competition to kill their opponent. They are gentlemen's (or gentlewomen's) matches.
@giantorres3352
@giantorres3352 9 лет назад
Scott M Hello sir whats the reason for not using punches to the face and kicks to the legs also I see they never use elvows or knees when they should.
@immizhab8592
@immizhab8592 3 года назад
@@giantorres3352 its 6 years ago but I guess I'll reply, WKF has updated the rules now tapping (knocking down) your oponents is allowed face punches are allowed aswell as for knees. You can't use that in a tournament we don't murder or someone in the ICU do we.
@giantorres3352
@giantorres3352 3 года назад
@@immizhab8592Nice. I gotta say I have changed the way I see Takeondow. It has its place as a sport.
@immizhab8592
@immizhab8592 3 года назад
@@giantorres3352 Wow you actually replied
@oooooda3213
@oooooda3213 2 года назад
@@giantorres3352 you mean Karate?
@bojanradojkovic5199
@bojanradojkovic5199 6 лет назад
Respect for these guys.They are so talented and friendly in fight but Rafael is my idol!! 2018 :0
@thedarkdragon8733
@thedarkdragon8733 6 лет назад
Everybody is saying there not talented b I've seen Rafael in other fights and he is truly talented
@dakentaijutsu2010
@dakentaijutsu2010 8 лет назад
I'm sorry, no disrespect, but this is one of the reasons why I'm doing kyokushin karate, but I gotta admire their determination here. OSU!
@waltergarcia606
@waltergarcia606 8 лет назад
nah its not that. its because they are ass lol
@davidsolano5054
@davidsolano5054 9 лет назад
Muy buena pelea un ejemplo a seguir rafael aghayev oss
@ramzanismailov8360
@ramzanismailov8360 10 лет назад
Rafael Aghayev is the best
@DavidMejlstedMrchPetersen
@DavidMejlstedMrchPetersen 8 лет назад
Respect good sportsmanship
@calculocerto-app
@calculocerto-app 8 лет назад
Os cara luta tanto na técnica que ninguém erra e difícil sair pontos.
@fletcherdelvalle8459
@fletcherdelvalle8459 8 лет назад
If you dont't like it, don't watch it. Simple.
@Musashi6661
@Musashi6661 8 лет назад
For the contrary friend, if we dont like it we watch it to learn what is wrong about this and to not make the same mistakes as they do. As for myself I respect them, a lot, I recognize they r natural talents and efforts, hard training and a lot of dedication ... for Dancing! Because if you call this Karate then what the fuck have I been doing the last 15 years....
@Massdojo
@Massdojo 10 лет назад
So many tnternet tough guys. I met both these guys. They would pick so many of you apart and not even have to hurt you. It wasn't the most exciting match, but there are plenty of good ones out there.
@harithsandeepa8987
@harithsandeepa8987 2 года назад
My fav player in Rafael brow
@enriqueabad7135
@enriqueabad7135 10 лет назад
la gente que lo criticáis me gustaría veros delante de alguno de estos dos campeones
@djosh6237
@djosh6237 10 лет назад
eso digo yo hay que reconocer el merito de estas personass
@maissadz8346
@maissadz8346 9 лет назад
j'aime cette kumite bon contunation avec filisiation
@ThePapiMojo
@ThePapiMojo 8 лет назад
I really respect these guys talent and everything....But holy macarani, this was boring as hell!
@ivanllopis5882
@ivanllopis5882 8 лет назад
+ThePapiMojo I don't think hell is boring lmao
@andremestassafety
@andremestassafety 8 лет назад
+ThePapiMojo It was hahahaha
@mastervule1844
@mastervule1844 8 лет назад
If we did this at training each of us would have to do 50 pushups haha
@joshuabenitez3260
@joshuabenitez3260 7 лет назад
If this is too boring for your taste you can take a look at the kyokushin kumites those guys till bash on one another until one drops.
@livelive2369
@livelive2369 8 лет назад
VerY GOOD AZE
@ryanrhoads9546
@ryanrhoads9546 9 лет назад
You people piss me off if your an actual martial artist than have some damn respect. First of all to all you haters lol. What you are watching here is something called POINT FIGHTING, which by the way isn't the actual fighting aspect of karate I have done karate amongst other arts like you people are talking about I have studied Muay Thai, Krav maga, Judo, Jiujutsu, boxing, escrima and a couple others and let me tell you this. Actual karate not the sport aspect at all is indeed an actual fighting art and lethal. You don't just learn timing and precision and footwork, kicks and punches, you also learn sweeps which if performed correctly are lethal. Another thing is that you learn joint locks like in jiujitsu you also learn how to disarm people with guns knives and sticks. One more thing amongst thousands of others lol cuz I don't want to write an entire essay about how karate is an actual martial art but the last thing I want to share with you people is that karate teaches all these things because it like other martial arts was made through and by war every martial art was a product of war if learned correctly and applied correctly any of them are lethal.
@rickc16
@rickc16 9 лет назад
+ryan rhoads I understand but it is boring to watch.
@gabrielabascal300
@gabrielabascal300 8 лет назад
I'm a martial artist I do goji-ru karate-do
@Musashi6661
@Musashi6661 8 лет назад
''What you are watching here is something called POINT FIGHTING'' - No, what we are watching here is a degeneration of Karate. Meaning no offense, tho you will get offended, but, saying that you trained Karate, Krav Maga, Boxing bla bla bla just makes me more and more sure that you understand 0 about Karate. You are a smart ass thinking that making a big list of 5 years training some martial art makes you an expert, well guess again, it doesnt, for the opposite. Simple because you will never be a God in neither of them
@ryanrhoads9546
@ryanrhoads9546 8 лет назад
Myamoto first of all Myamoto. I don't believe that point fighting is a degeneration of karate. you are incorrect that you think I would also get offended. (you don't even know me on a personal level.) And for saying that you mean no offense when you clearly do makes you look like a liar. For one don't call me out over the Internet like some keyboard warrior. Again you don't know me. One more thing, I never ever claimed to be an expert at any of those arts I'm more proficient in some than others. But here's the truth your correct in the notion that noone can be a "God" of martial arts, but the disrespect that is potruding from your side of this conversation means you probably don't care about this dialogue in the first place.
@dorjetamang3416
@dorjetamang3416 9 лет назад
Very good i laekt karate
@justinbiberversipapua1708
@justinbiberversipapua1708 7 лет назад
4:05 with speed video 0.25 if it does not include the point?? whts wrong?? pls answer
@blackghost837
@blackghost837 7 лет назад
I agree with you, it looked like a point to me, although it was a little low for kizame. Sometimes the refs just make bad calls.
@timvenom7206
@timvenom7206 9 лет назад
The Referee is standing on the Wrong side of the Tatami. or Aka and Ao are standing wrong.
@thalalahamat8749
@thalalahamat8749 8 лет назад
From bilalahamat as I know rafayel is the best kumite fighter he's super
@gerardrocks24
@gerardrocks24 9 лет назад
I'm a fan of martial arts and this match is the very reason why I prefer MMA because watching just one discipline alone is so boring because it's so restrictive, you see guys out there in training doing amazing things with their kicks but very few can actually do it in a match. I know these guys can kick my ass but at the end of the day, the reason why tae kwon do or karate doesn't get the same attention as other disciplines is because it's so restrictive. Even Bruce Lee is not a fan of matches like these where movement is so restricted.
@TheLindos100
@TheLindos100 10 лет назад
This is just sport karate there is also Kara and self defence
@ronaldcarter7255
@ronaldcarter7255 10 лет назад
One didn't want to fight and the other was glad of it.
@chiyakachaambwa2223
@chiyakachaambwa2223 8 лет назад
people hurt what they dont understand , just like how i hurt watching mma fights.
@kashinwa
@kashinwa 10 лет назад
I think what you guys wanna hope is a real fight, self-defence and something has to be bleeding out, bone broken like MMA or Kyokushin. In my opinion, I agree with you, it's more reality than waiting and speed only...
@andyscy
@andyscy 10 лет назад
M
@TheIrieGamer
@TheIrieGamer 10 лет назад
this is what happens when they turn a martial art into a sport. It loses everything.
@bozoxxx79125
@bozoxxx79125 10 лет назад
go pick up muay thai and break a leg while you're at it in the competitions
@user-ge2zi2sb9n
@user-ge2zi2sb9n 6 лет назад
الله
@njerzynek
@njerzynek 10 лет назад
4:21 is soooooooooooo mr bean, hehe, hardly bruce lee
@atharva1594
@atharva1594 4 года назад
😂😂👍👍
@Alikotheytb
@Alikotheytb 6 лет назад
kyokushin karate as the best style
@attuan8784
@attuan8784 10 лет назад
like Aghayev
@Elshan_Aliyev
@Elshan_Aliyev 10 лет назад
Azerbaycanin fexrisen Rafael Agayev!
@IamNoob05
@IamNoob05 5 месяцев назад
Why aka in left corner and aao in right
@vandanakaushal5387
@vandanakaushal5387 5 лет назад
I think they are standing wrong because towards the left Ao stands and towards right aka
@samsonpug
@samsonpug 10 лет назад
This is sport karate and is more like a game of it than a real fight. I used to be pretty good as I was fast and had good timing with a reverse punch and front jab. I have used karate for real and it works--there was no bouncing up and down involved and it was over in less than 10 seconds with a take down and choke hold. Sports karate has got very boring to watch as the competitors all fight the same and the rules have developed to exacerbate it. The only sport more boring to watch than this is taekwondo-- I am still recovering from watching it in the Olympics.
@cashanyforde9773
@cashanyforde9773 9 лет назад
that was RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!
@Elektrik.mallari78
@Elektrik.mallari78 10 лет назад
ela rafel
@that1girlkenzie896
@that1girlkenzie896 9 лет назад
Who do you vote red or blue?
@KamranCeferli-pt8vb
@KamranCeferli-pt8vb 2 месяца назад
Rafael Aghayev🇦🇿🇦🇿
@abduenour5429
@abduenour5429 6 лет назад
Coooool
@eminsamadli2019
@eminsamadli2019 8 лет назад
Azerbaijan 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
@mustiking654
@mustiking654 6 лет назад
Emin Samadli adamımsın aynen
@thalalahamat8749
@thalalahamat8749 7 лет назад
That's what you know about karate but karate is my life my coach is rj Edward he is the person who brought the Asian karate games sliver medial he is the best from bilal ahamat
@user-jk4sx8mo6h
@user-jk4sx8mo6h 9 лет назад
Is it shotokan karate?, what kind of karate is it????
@lilcasement
@lilcasement 9 лет назад
최유찬 I think about 5 schools are present in the WKF
@theMgamesgr
@theMgamesgr 9 лет назад
Kumite is same in all styles of karate
@arpitanand7680
@arpitanand7680 Месяц назад
I am blue one in that fight 💙🤫🤭
@adunifebadero2206
@adunifebadero2206 8 лет назад
nice can I join
@pradeepjagali8866
@pradeepjagali8866 2 года назад
Oss
@vladphd
@vladphd 10 лет назад
Hard to get an atack. Should be fast and swift
@charobikelife4907
@charobikelife4907 8 лет назад
bien
@DrunkDuckXD
@DrunkDuckXD 10 лет назад
dear gob its like tag...
@ridethelightning9
@ridethelightning9 10 лет назад
OMG guy in red belt hasn't made ne move
@charlesflavia1925
@charlesflavia1925 8 лет назад
KYOKUSHIN
@dakentaijutsu2010
@dakentaijutsu2010 8 лет назад
not kyokushin, not even close
@milankaka459
@milankaka459 10 лет назад
asi es Enrique Abad
@ahmadahmas4872
@ahmadahmas4872 8 лет назад
لك لهدرجا جبناء
@muhammadagamg1263
@muhammadagamg1263 10 лет назад
cool
@lamramoson4767
@lamramoson4767 7 лет назад
is so vary lawsy aghayev
@jasmin9759
@jasmin9759 2 месяца назад
Avoid waste jump
@majdsaleh6719
@majdsaleh6719 9 лет назад
how tall is rene smaal ? can someone pls answer me :)
@xander1498
@xander1498 3 года назад
not very tall, he was on my school when i was like 8 years old and i think he was 1.80m maybe 1.85m
@andreaasselta
@andreaasselta 9 лет назад
Il jakutzuki dell'olandese era arrivato prima di quello di agayev,ma gli arbitri sono di parte.Brutta finale con tecniche sporche,e molta tensione.
@phamvietthangarmy
@phamvietthangarmy 9 лет назад
AKA (red) must be on the right of referee! AO (blue) must be on the left of referee!
@memmedlielmir4508
@memmedlielmir4508 4 года назад
💪
@thalalahamat8749
@thalalahamat8749 8 лет назад
Bilal karate is which is coming from the body
@sashatoderas3695
@sashatoderas3695 6 лет назад
De ce nu ai dat una acustica totuși cred că al doilea de manager spital
@DariusYTB
@DariusYTB 6 лет назад
I have Rafael autograf;)
@amelienothomb6546
@amelienothomb6546 10 лет назад
heri rafaelll^_^
@Handles606
@Handles606 10 лет назад
Why do they bounce so much?
@robertg78
@robertg78 10 лет назад
Its like a strategy, you're not a 'stand by' target and, supposedly, it gives you a little bit of speed.
@marcelomarsico7816
@marcelomarsico7816 9 лет назад
Karatê uma bela arte +essa luta não parece uma verdadeira luta nem de competição de Karatê,muito estranha essa luta+ja foi melhor+sempre sera bom o verdadeiro Karatê
@diogodi4878
@diogodi4878 8 лет назад
eu. to. na faxa. preta
@darthvader3729
@darthvader3729 7 лет назад
diogo di nem faixa se sb escrever
@JPBotero717
@JPBotero717 10 лет назад
Its no the same karate that i lived 3 years ago its some bore thing right now
@njerzynek
@njerzynek 10 лет назад
the opponent was peanialised for his glove not being taped up properally???
@YamanoRyuu
@YamanoRyuu 10 лет назад
This is the crap karate had become, every style looks the same, all the focus on close combat in certain is lost. All the use of arms became tsuki in a tag game.
@wika1984
@wika1984 10 лет назад
Would you prefer kung fu, judo, or how about a MMA? I know Karate can be pretty powerful if done correctly, but then there's rules and regulations like throwing is illegal in karate tournaments that keep karate at its purest form.
@robertg78
@robertg78 10 лет назад
wika1984 Not to mention that, although this wasn't a fight with a lot of action, this was a fight with respect and friendship. Karate was meant to unite, not to 'destroy' your oponent.
@CodyHannebaum
@CodyHannebaum 10 лет назад
Roberto González and that's why it sucked and was boring
@wika1984
@wika1984 10 лет назад
Cody Hannebaum Go watch your WWE. Even though it's fake, it's probably more action and up your alley.
@YamanoRyuu
@YamanoRyuu 10 лет назад
wika1984 “there's rules and regulations like throwing is illegal in karate tournaments that keep karate at its purest form.” Well, it is completely the opposite. Karate was a complete fighting style has throws (probably the only thing it lacks is ground grappling). Also they use body protection, and you can see a lot of other arts that doesn’t, and no one died. In fact, It is the WKF that keeps destroying it, I don’t know about other countries but at least in Japan and China you can find good Karate, they don sent their students to this kind of tournament. Karate has so many punching and kicking variations that seeing this is painful. They should change the name to “tsuki-do” or something. And NO, I am not a follower of MMA. I love traditional arts but this is not progression at all.
@user-fd1hl5bk3h
@user-fd1hl5bk3h 8 лет назад
я тз Беларусии
@user-ju5hq5qz2c
@user-ju5hq5qz2c 6 лет назад
как
@GuyInAHotdogSuit69
@GuyInAHotdogSuit69 10 лет назад
Wow... that right there... that was some stupid bullshit. This is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen, do people really call this a martial art? I've had people scoff at me, telling me that their brown or black belt in this shit would allow them to easily kick my ass inside 10 seconds and this is the shit they were talking about? I mean, really? Maybe it's my fault, maybe through studying actually USEFUL martial arts like Boxing, Muay Thai, BJJ, Judo and Krav Maga I set my standards too high in terms of what makes a martial art worth learning, but really this is just sad, to think that this is still regarded with any magnitude of respect as an art in the fighting community baffles me beyond words, if this is the best they have to offer then I honestly feel sorry for anyone who studies this shit and thinks they're a badass because you're gonna have a very rude awakening when you have your first real fight.
@laplacedemon7483
@laplacedemon7483 10 лет назад
To be fair, the streights of karate is timing, precision, speed. You can't really compare it to any other martial arts format. The strategy is completely different, and it's an art. It's meant in real terms to take out the opponent with well directed blows, and quick foot movement. Machida proved that this was indeed a plausible fighting system in the UFC, being a karateka, coming from this point -karate background and winning 16 matches or so in a row, before they figured him out. He managed to become the champion as well.
@DragonlordXV
@DragonlordXV 10 лет назад
get some culture before telling bullshit , you never know something untill you experienced it, you saw a drop not the ocean!
@MisterLiBRiUMz
@MisterLiBRiUMz 10 лет назад
I'll admit this karate is pretty pathetic to watch. You should check out Kyokushin karate, I think you'll be pleases with what you find. Its similar to Muai Thai in a way, and is more effective than this karate. Its the hardest, toughest karate style you'll find.
@MisterLiBRiUMz
@MisterLiBRiUMz 10 лет назад
I'll admit this karate is pretty pathetic to watch. You should check out Kyokushin karate, I think you'll be pleases with what you find. Its similar to Muai Thai in a way, and is more effective than this karate. Its the hardest, toughest karate style you'll find.
@GuyInAHotdogSuit69
@GuyInAHotdogSuit69 10 лет назад
MisterLiBRiUMz After watching a few videos of Kyokushin Karate I think I agree with you, it seems a lot more effective and practical.
@brendonlucca3453
@brendonlucca3453 10 лет назад
Karate é uma arte linda muito mais bonita que muitas artes marcial por ai,,agora se voce é hotario e quer ver perna quebrada e sangue chama hns cara na rua e briga com eles,,karate é arte,diciplina e nao agraçao entao se voce nao entende nada da arte cala a boca e vai catar coquinho seus hotarios nao acha bonito nem assista !!!
@buuzy252
@buuzy252 10 лет назад
Level Aghayev has largely fallen !! Compareson with level 2010 vs matsuhisa when Aghayev win Word Karate number one
@motivationkarate85
@motivationkarate85 7 лет назад
no lo vi a agayevh con tecnica ni con ganas de ganar
@ItalyBLUE
@ItalyBLUE 9 лет назад
Aka and ao (red and blue) r the wrong way round for the whole fight
@raphaelfairon4370
@raphaelfairon4370 8 лет назад
Raphaël Raphaël !!!!!!!!!!!!!
@mackenzievellenoweth9136
@mackenzievellenoweth9136 10 лет назад
Yup vvvvvvvv
@kamransadiqli5462
@kamransadiqli5462 10 лет назад
Azerbaijan 3
@neilpipher60
@neilpipher60 10 лет назад
Prefer traditional Shotokan myself. Technique in this video is poor.
@vishakhasingh279
@vishakhasingh279 7 лет назад
they forgot what their masters thought them
@Seyiid1453
@Seyiid1453 9 лет назад
Soft Karate for Kids : )
@18sunwarrior
@18sunwarrior 9 лет назад
This is just a part from karate, there is a lot more like blocking opponents attack, get him down and keep him there, kumite doesnt use all the kicks and blocks. Just saying... I train karate for 9 years and it may look easy but it s exhausting.
@jamesmy6044
@jamesmy6044 6 лет назад
what happened to Karate. Nakayama would cry
@capricola8682
@capricola8682 7 месяцев назад
Nakayama is JKA. JKA is still the same. This is WKF. Not only shotokan here, but also goju ryu, shito ryu, etc. WKF rules and olympic rules resulted in its own WKF style because they needed to adapt with sports regulation. While JKA is still traditional like it was.
@MariaVitoria-qn2dv
@MariaVitoria-qn2dv 10 месяцев назад
Kevin Debruine Ktk?
@Cheeseisboss
@Cheeseisboss 10 лет назад
hahaaa. good ol' rafael
@andreaasselta
@andreaasselta 9 лет назад
Ho letto tutti i commenti,e mi chiedo:ma se non si conosce il Karate sportivo,perchè si giudica con appellativi del tipo merda,cazzo,etc...?L'ignoranza è la padrona del mondo.
@milagrosmassanet4917
@milagrosmassanet4917 9 лет назад
Asi es amigo. ; Siempre le gusta jusgar , Personas Que No Saben De Lo Que Hablan..Por Eso Asi Estan Las Cosas En El Mundo..El Que Sabe Caya. Y El Que No Sabe Critica Lo Que No Sabe...Ironias De La Gente !!! Lindo Dia Y Noche En La Paz Del Altisimo !!! 😘🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷
@dhshxhhjd5663
@dhshxhhjd5663 9 лет назад
+Milagros Massanet s
@juliorodriguez-uz3kg
@juliorodriguez-uz3kg 7 лет назад
Que con el gueto se queda parado
@ecigorjan
@ecigorjan 7 лет назад
René Smaal won! His giakozuki was faster.
@justinbiberversipapua1708
@justinbiberversipapua1708 7 лет назад
yeah i see too..
@nashkakuhnen2024
@nashkakuhnen2024 10 лет назад
noo
@franklinpilco305
@franklinpilco305 8 лет назад
Aghayev es buen karateca, pero tiende a agarrar mucho al oponente y me parece que esto ensucia la técnica, el karate shotokan es velocidad y técnica, deberia aplicar mas esto, no maña,no creo que necesita sorprender al oponente agarrando el gui todo el tiempo.
@mrking2498
@mrking2498 2 года назад
Lo agarra para tirarlo no?
@FightClubStellingen
@FightClubStellingen 10 лет назад
4:18 Ah ah ah! I've seen you Judge on the top right. So you've decided on intuition or affection? That's why Karate can't be a serious, objective Sport; like fencing, or Taekwon-Do and thus deserves not to be in the olympics. It's not just THIS particular Judge. Com on guys, we have seen this many times else where, didn't we?
@edlenealves5436
@edlenealves5436 6 лет назад
Nossa tá parecendo até judô, um agarra agarra, e isso quando um resolve "atacar" parece q tão e com medo... Amo esse esporte, mas faltou força de vontade.
@diav1950
@diav1950 10 лет назад
Amúgy nem rossz... csak nem kéne ez a pontozás és ennyi védőfelszerelés mert így nem élvezetes senki számára
@bibiahhhn
@bibiahhhn 7 лет назад
two bunnies.
@mamadouyerobalde7734
@mamadouyerobalde7734 5 лет назад
taekwondo de Guine
@Maiwennn
@Maiwennn 9 лет назад
estuvo algo floja y poco ataque, felicidades al ganador !
@matteopuppo5459
@matteopuppo5459 8 лет назад
boring fight
@gabrielabascal300
@gabrielabascal300 8 лет назад
Martial arts is about balance and talent and your soul.
@igordeazevedohuguenin5594
@igordeazevedohuguenin5594 8 лет назад
+Gabriel Abascal yep
@Mihalych-09
@Mihalych-09 8 лет назад
Попрыгунчики
@sm00thcruzyn
@sm00thcruzyn 10 лет назад
is this a fight or a staring contest?
@samwhite2056
@samwhite2056 9 лет назад
sm00thcruzyn more like dancing contest.
@hermangonzalez3442
@hermangonzalez3442 10 лет назад
a baln español
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