@@intsi4676 I'm not any good in Battlecruisers so I wasn't really looking forward to Incomparable I'm not saying that it's bad but it's better for others if I don't play it
when you see a team go herd you know the majority of the players are bad because they think the only way to live is have lots of other targets around them to take hits. almost every blowout game starts with either a DD not spotting its flank, or the BBs running away right from the start. but players never seem to be able to learn this. one weak link is hard to overcome in most games.
@@somebody700 In fact, you can do pretty well in khaba against it. You just have to stay as far as possible and juke like hell, but yeah you are at such a disadvantage against that shit. You shoot perfectly and juke as good as you can, deal 15k, she still chunks you for 5-8k, goes dark and guess what. She is almost full hp again. Even if you juke better, if your teammates don't focus her, you can't kill her and you can't do anything else till she dies, because if you do, she starts annihilating you.
@@somebody700 ragnar is not the best.. the fact that u won the fight in a khaba says allot about it. ragnar just has a radar which can freak out the torp dds but among the gun boats in a 1 v 1 i feel its the worst.
Yes, finally. Ragnar is my first steel ship and she is so fun to play. :D 3:01 I am running concealment instead of range, because I am better at the umbush hunting of DDs and want to use the stealth radar you get with double concealment. Also 13km is a bit short to fight cruisers, that is true, but most of the time you can make it work, for quick finishers. I am dislike being open for so long at longer ranges with my DDs anyways, so 13km sometimes feels even TOO long as a range for me xD
Ragnar is inherently underpowered. It lacks the necessary attributes to make meaningful impact on match result. No burst damage to speak of, split turrets, and yet still retains a fragile platform. I would take 1 Conqueror..Thunderer or 1 DM or even 1 of just about any CA over 2 Ragnars on my team any day of the week. Now... If WG gave it the specialized repair party of the Nestrashimy ( and 1 more base charge)... And maybe a few more thousand HP if could make up for where it is seriously lacking with longevity
I had a game lately, where the sky was filled with planes all over. An enemy CV, a Tromp, a Johan de Witt and as a cherry on the top, a Kearsarge - all enemy planes.... and I'm sitting in a Gouden Leeuv in a pure AA build and I felt like I'm in heaven, with planes falling out of the sky like raindrops around me. I didn't get as much planes down as you in the Ragnar. because the enemy was smarter and respected the "no fly zone" around my ship, but still 46 downed planes later I ended up on place 2 even with very few maindamage. I guess, plane damage is still more worth than secondary damage on ships, because its way easier to be on the top of the list, with AA builds, than with secondary builds.
The end of this video is so accurate. Games that are just spoiled by teams melting are more and more common. It’s not a new phenomenon but it’s just getting out of hand now
You don;t miss in DDs because of dispersion. You miss because the shells are slow and arcing making it very hard to hit maneuvering targets beyond 7~8 km.
Long before 5km the Ragnar would have to endure getting shot at with nothing to shoot back against for something like 10 salvos. That is enough to fuck up any DD, thick plating or no thick plating. The Smaland is just a better boat. At least you have decent concealment and you have the option to sling torps - very fast and pretty long range torps -- when you are low on health. The Ragnar can either sit around and jerk off, or show itself and get raped when it is low on health.
Same the fact that the EU DD line is all Torp boats and all my skill are built for torps. Maybe if there was A BB or Cruiser line then i could make a CPT just for this boat
Charging this ship head on at about 4-5km with my Daring, I did way more damage to him since he needed to stay broadside to shoot at me with the same number of guns. Daring AP absolutely shredded him while keeping my bow at him.
I think that there is one flaw with Pan European ships , deep charges are in front and there is no indicator where it hit that sucks , WG need to patch that .
Personally I use all 3 important P4 skills and sacrafice SI. It sucks a little bit not having 3 Radars and Heals, but I noticed that in many games you dont actually need them (ranked specificly) as you want to be farming anyways. Radar is so much more potent when you can pop it as soon as spotted, this is worth only having 2 as thouse 2 are so much more deadly.
I also just got the Ragnar. Honestly I am a mediocre player. I want to be better and I am working hard to better than mediocre and more competitive it's hard and the grind is long, but it's fun Ragnar feels the same way. It's a great boat I can avg around 60-70K in it which is 10-15K higher than other destroyers. I just need to learn to master it and play it better. Which takes time and some dedication
I had close range encounters with Ragnar on my Daring... and boi he suffers from my 60° AP pen angle, it is perfectly fine. There's no way Ragnar can shoot his aft guns if he doesn't want to eat my AP.
seriously, it is next to impossible to lose a dd encounter in ragnar, i even won a 1vs1 against a mino below 10km. if u win in daring, he probably was drunken or had some serious lag or worse... lmao
@@FMeyer-zg5mg nah it’s a trade kill I never said I survived that encounter, kekek. it’s just really close fight and it’s in ranked as well so the chances of close battles near islands are often. I had full hp and so does he, he probably thought he could easily take me down but I knew that my he can’t do shit about him so I immediately switched to ap. And for some reason he decides to close in rather than kiting away. Plus my commander’s build at the time is full-on meme gun build with bft and fb.
Hey PQ, I've been thinking for a long time whether I should buy the Ragnar as the first ship for steel. I just really like to play DDs, but ... There are so many DDs, with so many options, how you can play them and how best to adapt them to your preferences etc pp. I will probably test some options on the CT, because I am also trying to set up a Haru on full gunboat (without camouflage) on my main server. Because, for example, the Haru already has 240k Base DPM (HE) and the Ragnar only 165k. Then with every gunboat you add ~ 27% (5% + 12% + 10%). So I thought Haru would be a lot of fun in full-gunboat. Unfortunately, I don't hit the range very well (15.x km), I'm also quickly discovered 6.9km, and I only have a 10 captain ... but if you count the 27% on it, you have a lot of gun power. I will also test the Yueyang with radar + gun-boat. There you also have 3s reload, 7.5km radar (33s with build+modul), 6.5 camouflage. So I'm really thinking about spending my steel on "something" like the Ragnar. Another good example from Elbing: D. It has "only" 209k AP DMG but you also add the 27% but also the 7.5% AP DMG ... that makes a huge difference and you have the "almost same" hit safety as Ragner and even more range (16km), 7.2 camouflage, 5.4s reload. Makes an AP DPM of 294k. Or you take the Z52, which already has a 284k base. Yes, I write too much ^^. What do you think or do the others think of it? Delny is coming soon, isn't it? Is that a better Tashkent or what? It will definitely be a lot of fun: D. Because I love my Tashkent xDD ps: Build Halland with gunboat and only 12.5km range is very little but reloading is great xD - 1.6s. A really good time that the CT is online, I'll have to test a few times ^^
I got her immediately when the coupons reset, and damn she's a blast. She can dunk any DD in the game. She's not as extreme as Småland in that Småland also has that ridiculous DPM that gives enemy DD's little time to react, but Ragnar can get away from knife fights more intact because of her bulkiness against small caliber HE. BTW, you should definitely go with SE, getting concealment down to equal to or less than your radar range is kinda imperative for radar DD's. You can omit FB for it, 10% faster reload isn't really worth giving up essentially a stealth radar. Even in randoms.
angar is inherently underpowered. It lacks the necessary attributes to make meaningful impact on match result. No burst damage to speak of, split turrets, and yet still retains a fragile platform. I would take 1 Conqueror..Thunderer or 1 DM or even 1 of just about any CA over 2 Ragnars on my team any day of the week. Now... If WG gave it the specialized repair party of the Nestrashimy ( and 1 more base charge).... And maybe a few more thousand HP if could make up for where it is seriously lacking with longevity.
I'm new to WOWs, I'm 52 years old. I'm grinding it out through the tiers trying to learn all the ins and outs I love destroyer play its fast. How do you widen the spread of your torpedo launches? So far Ive been the last one standing in three games Ive been in hundreds but Team work is lacking for sure. Love your videos I'm learning a lot thanks.
I like the Ragnar, fighting it that is cause no torps and when it's within secondary range of the German tier X bb and bc it's a dead ship walking, just sit back and relax and watch it melt away.
DD AA is WAY too strong in the current game, it needs to be toned back by a lot. They have better AA then most BB's in the game which is dumb. Cool ship though, I'm gonna get one :)
I just got it - and god am I bad with it... I am not a bad DD player and I play both gun & torp dd's. I really cannot remember having such a bad time then with the Ragnar. I regret so much having spent my steel on this, it's not even funny anymore. I do not say the clip is wrong - I just recommend to think A LOT before buying it. It seems to be a bad solo-ship - maybe in a team? But for randoms I will not recommend it at all. Not even in my wildest dreams. Sorry - aside this clip - very big fan of your content mate! Just this one - I don't know ... It's weird how different the perception is right?
I am really wondering what ship to get now... I've been wanting Stalingrad for a long time and am about to get enough steel for it; then Ragnar appears, and quickly became everyone's new favorite DD..
I am in the same dilemma. I have enough for my first steel ship and have always wanted the Stalingrad but now I’m not sure if I should get that, the bour or Ragnar. I don’t have the time to build up steel quickly so I know whatever I pick will have to satisfy me for a while. I also worry that I grab one and then they release another steel ship in the next patch and I kick myself for not waiting.
I am about to get my first steel ship too. But missing 1k left for Shiki with coupon. But have enough to get ragnar or stalin. Thats my dilemma. I want shiki stal and ragnar. Like my original want was Shiki. People will hate me, but sheesh... that gun sound. Reason why I ranked so much on satsuma. I like stalingrad as I like my petro. Although I know I cannot face tank like I can on petro cause stakin is more squishy, but the guns are 305mm vs 220 on petro. And then Ragnar. One of my best played ships is Friesland. No torps but I love the capping and ambushing smoked up dds gameplay. Although my dilemma is, the friesland gameplay I got accustomed too may or may not work on ragnar cause it don't have smoke. (Im too dependent on it for emergency). But radar for hydro is nice.
I can’t wait to get Ragnar. Was heavily debating getting Austin as my first steel ship, but when this thing came out I knew this was gonna be the one I gotta get.
Damn such a pretty ship. I got the Friesland since releaseand I enjoy playing her and she looks he'lla pretty too. Contesting caps and ambushing smoked up dds. Like yes most of the time damage is not a lot but tons of exp from killing dds, planes, capping and de capping. So now Ragnar is also an interesting pick but steels are so hard to get unless you are a hardcore clan player.
A Monty and a GK with all their armor, HP and heals dead within 3 min of the game starts. This is a good showcase of the skill level of T10 player base these days. No wonder we get all these steamrolls with games ending in 6-7 min when a T10 BB (or even 2) cant even survive 4 full minutes. Ragnar seems cool boat tho.
@Potato Quality I have a question, I don't play clan battles too often due to work schedules. But now I have 23,337 of steel. With coupon I can get 6 ships FDR, Shiki, Bourgogne, Austin, Ragnar, and Plymouth. I'm not major in anything too much. You can check my profile. Hetmans3 in NA server. Please recommend me a ship to buy. I think my eye is on Bourgogne and Ragnar, but all seems to be tempting... Please pray help! Thanks so much for your minute of your time!
Very amazing... /s Match 90% over with under 20k damage and 1 kill from scraping off last hit on an already near dead enemy. This is more of a showcase of how underwhelming and how unimpactful Ragnar is.. Its just a radar boat without burst damage in a PVP game... And doesnt have any real DPM to make up for it. Bullying other underperforming DDs isnt really much of a statement about ship capability
Dude get off the AP especially at long range: Ragnar has an 11% chance of starting fires. Damn that's awesome for a DD! I don't yet have Ragnar but in my Pan Euros I get about 20%-30% of my overall caused damage (to ships) via fires and they only hold about an 8% fire chance. Now you might say that 20% is chip damage and you'd be correct, but I can continually get that chip damage whilst taking no damage in return via going conceal behind an island after I light his ars on fire to then to take him on again later. If I ever use my AP then I've blown it and gotten way to close to something way too big: CVs excluded lol. Yes I'm speaking of/from Olands little pew pews but the fire advantage offers the same game for Ragnar. Make light houses out of ships: burn baby burn!
I am confused about this ship... This is another DD that should have been CL Sailed beside Austin, damn... this ship is bigger than austin, makes me think Austin is nerfed as cruiser. If I am spec for range, my teammate will be angry, but I did constant 70k - 100k per game If I am spec for DD hunter, at best I can only survive for 2 hunts, and I only get 30k - 40k. This is hard...
@@brentonteo8273 SE bug is getting a super fast patch, should be fixed on most servers already. It's in the ingame news, with 3 WG containers as an apology.
I want this ship, but... Incomparable comes first. 15:29 "That was not the optimal game for a Ragnar." True, but I don't want to see it in its optimal environment; I want to see how it deals with things when the shit comes down and the situation is subpar. That's the true test of how good it really is.
im about to get ragnar in 30 minutes...... This ship can't push in though, its best at range, my druid destroys Ragnars at close range, but at range its hard dealing damage do it It also has an improved heal like you get on the Groz . Think it's like 14% rather than a typical 10% heal So two heals gets you 28% recoverable, on other destroyers with 3 heals you'll get 30%
You can skip superintendent, it doesn't matter if you waste 2 or 3 radar. But seriously what was that radar usage? You got 4k with the first one, 0 with the second and third. The third was especially painful. Great value tracking the shima behind the island only to get farmed by a smoked up shima.
Yeah.. I didn't know much about it and came up against it in my harugumo. Damn... It killed me with 50% hp to spare. But got him with my torps later on.
I still can't choose between Ragnar, Bourgogne and Shikishima. I play all three ship types (DD, CA/CL , BB) very well. I also have the techtree versions of these ships: Yamato, Republique (Alsace) and Halland (also the Friesland). My first Steel ship was Stalin. :0
For me Ragnar just dont work I have 21p Swirski captain on Halland , and 19 on Östergötland & 16p on Öland , and all have torpedo boat build so Ragnar would be useless for me , and I have meet her few times in battle and i all ways won , both on Vampire II & Druid in my opinion those ships are just better .
Correct build is to take CE instead of fearless brawler, so you can radar what is spotting you and farm damage from safe distance once your radar is on cooldown. Your build focuses on ultimate damage farming. I have seen some other streamers building like that to get high PR to get into leaderboard.
Now Potato, great video, but would you recommend this ship over the Stalin / Bourgogne for someone that is more casually focussed? Especially when that particular individual already has the Vampire 2, what seems to be a true nemesis to this ship.
