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raiding as spriest in retail vs classic 

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started playing shadow priest on wrath, and remembered how much more complicated they had made it on retail. hope you enjoy
A lot of people wanted me to continue the series, but in order to i will have to use clips from other people, as i do not have every class max on vanilla/wrath/retail. Do you guys think this is an okay way to continue? I figured it might be ok if i credit the people involved, as it is kind of the norm in wow community to react andy to other peoples content already
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Tempr: / @temprtv
JacklgoeTv: / @jackigoetv
DannyGaminGnC: / @dannygamingnc
Kirbstomp: / @kirbstomp8041

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@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 Год назад
A lot of people wanted me to continue the series, but in order to do so, i will have to use clips from other people, as i do not have every class max on vanilla/wrath/retail. Do you guys think this is an okay way to continue? I figured it might be ok if i credit the people involved, as it is kind of the norm in wow community to react andy to other peoples content already. I appreciate all of the support on my recent videos, especially in this series. I am not a very skilled video editor/creator, i started making pvp montages for fun. With the recent support i have been working to learn and improve, any advice on how to go about that would be appreciated. Any other suggestions for this series/other videos you would like to see feel free to let me know. I only recently started up wow again, playing hardcore classic, but have been dabbling a bit on retail and recently wrath. Wrath has been the most fun, if you would like to see any content from those let me know.
@mcnultygaming
@mcnultygaming Год назад
yeah dude, just ask the video takers permission should be fine
@ramaron
@ramaron Год назад
I think it's fine, you don't just copy and past their video, but use the clip to create something new + most WoW player would probably find your video hilarious anyway
@Heron11177
@Heron11177 Год назад
It would be awesome to compare to other expansions, other classics
@ilbertipt
@ilbertipt Год назад
Legion DH vs Retail DH is unbelievable
@PeaceJaime123
@PeaceJaime123 Год назад
This is amazing
@ddenozor
@ddenozor Год назад
I like how in both damage meters, they are at bottom.
@ihalia
@ihalia Год назад
i dunno about wrath but in DF, you can't judge a dps on their 20 seconds opener with bl/pot/PIs. Kazzara (the boss fight in df) is a 5minutes+ fight pure st. Trust me when i say that the dmg metter will be completely different from what u see on the opener once the boss dies. I'm a ret paladin and at the opener I hardly do 160k dps while everyone else is doing 300k. At the end of the fight though, I'll finish with 110-120 whe everyone else will be at 100-110. SP is like ret, they have sustain ST dmg, not burst like most specs.
@riddert4966
@riddert4966 Год назад
Spriest strong af in DF atm tho lol
@Overflowinng
@Overflowinng Год назад
both? only in wrath
@stevenhuang9169
@stevenhuang9169 Год назад
Spriest is T1 in Ulduar now, I don't know what u talking about
@buttsmcgee50
@buttsmcgee50 Год назад
@@ihalia no you don't. Ret is fucking garbage on ST.
@bosssavage3325
@bosssavage3325 Год назад
The best part of this is they’re both on the bottom of the dps meter
@Ayayron_e3
@Ayayron_e3 Год назад
To be fair the guy playing classic was clipping flay like a mf..
@shadowpriest2574
@shadowpriest2574 Год назад
@@Ayayron_e3 pretty sure that is what you are supposed to do tho.
@Ayayron_e3
@Ayayron_e3 Год назад
@@shadowpriest2574 you're supposed to clip at the tick of the 2nd damage tick of flay unless you know it's beneficial to use a whole flay. This guy is not doing any of that.
@shadowpriest2574
@shadowpriest2574 Год назад
@@Ayayron_e3 Why is it beneficial to clip at the second tick?
@Ayayron_e3
@Ayayron_e3 Год назад
@@shadowpriest2574 because you don't ever really want to flay all 3 ticks, just 2 and recast. It works out to you doing more dps than doing 3 and losing time waiting for the 1st tick on the 2nd flay
@ghozter1
@ghozter1 Год назад
Lmao, I don't think anything can beat the clips of the guy sweating his ass off smashing keys vs the just vibing singing Payphone 😂
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 Год назад
Agreed, didn’t necessarily want to copy paste the same thing so tried to do this one a little different. I would like to bring back those two in future if i have a good enough idea for it
@Kenji-117
@Kenji-117 5 месяцев назад
Halondrus melees vs ranges in comparison LMAOOO
@biigsmokee
@biigsmokee 2 месяца назад
@@Ross_2312it's exactly the same thing though but with worse clips lol
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 Месяц назад
@@biigsmokee 😂
@jonwahlstrm478
@jonwahlstrm478 Год назад
Wrath leaves you enough mental space to sing and have a good time, clear winner 🔨
@chukky1124
@chukky1124 Год назад
so does retail lol... wrath is just to relaxe and not look for a challenge. were many get the satisfaction of pushing your limits. everyone has fun in their own way...
@gmarley4402
@gmarley4402 Год назад
@@chukky1124 cope
@jointser1008
@jointser1008 Год назад
@@gmarley4402 he is right tho
@seanmurphy7953
@seanmurphy7953 Год назад
@@chukky1124 that's why arena exists
@siegemakerYT
@siegemakerYT Год назад
That tends to be the opinion of people that didn't actually raid back then
@KingJerbear
@KingJerbear Год назад
As someone new to World of Warcraft (just tried out the game with the recent HC classic hype) I really love these videos. Retail looks fun too in it's own way but I just really enjoy the lack of gear and power in the classic game so far. Keep it up!
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 Год назад
Thank you!! Retail is fun, I think all versions have things they do well. You should give it a try sometime if you get bored. Honestly lately wrath classic has been the most fun, after hopping between classic, wrath, and retail. I feel like wrath is a decent middle ground between the two, especially for a newer player. Im not one of those people who pick a side and hate the other, i like all things wow
@7128jml
@7128jml Год назад
If i could have classic experience with the retail graphics I'd love the game again
@macre8389
@macre8389 Год назад
@@7128jml but you can if you max out the video settings.
@aufkeinsten7883
@aufkeinsten7883 Год назад
Yeah I got kinda hyped for Classic HC but the end game is just so dead.. Once you've progressed mythic on retail the game just feels hella dull in the old expansions. I love this video series, but in all honesty if you put your mind to playing a class (like I did with SP for a while), the retail rotation really isn't INSANELY complex, it's just something that takes time to master, and I find that a lot of fun. Meanwhile, most top DPS classes in wrath (let alone classic lol) have like a 3 button rotation, bar Enha maybe.. It's unfortunate, as I really love the old expansions
@enigmabis.
@enigmabis. Год назад
looks like hes having more fun in classic
@billymays9296
@billymays9296 2 месяца назад
Depends on the player. I personally don't have any fun whatsoever if I'm not being challenged by the fights, which no fights before Cata ever did, and it didn't even start ramping up much by then either. I was raiding in TBC Classic as a Resto Shaman, never having to move and spamming 1-2 buttons over and over again, I quit after one raid because I nearly died of boredom.
@deenman23
@deenman23 Месяц назад
hes just more ''simple minded''
@That_Man_Ski
@That_Man_Ski Год назад
I think you have a great idea in your head and you just need the resources for your idea to come out. I don’t mind watching other players clips as long as you keep that humor coming! 🎉
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 Год назад
Thank you! I am working to improve quality I appreciate the feedback and support ♥️
@user-kp1xm8zy3m
@user-kp1xm8zy3m Год назад
can't wait for someone to make a clip like this for elemental shamen retail lightning build vs classic
@newergamer7974
@newergamer7974 7 месяцев назад
Holy shit the icarly song gave me such a nostalgia hit wtf
@shawning13
@shawning13 Год назад
i dont care what anyone says but i will die on the hill that legion shadow priest was the best RAID designed spec ever made. it did feel awful in open world content due to everything dying before voidform was of any real worth but man did surrender to madness feel amazing. nothing made my heart pump faster than doing xavius, high botanist, or honestly any fight with surrender to madness. hitting that sweet sweet 100 stacks along with the 3rd void torrent was truly special. i actually broke my naga side buttons because of how much i was spamming due to the insanely low GCD at the time. for high botanist on heroic i actually solo clutched the last 7% with vampiric embrace and dispersion with my VT doing 5-7mil crits a tick it really. something about the true high risk(insta death and no brez for 3 mins if executed wrong) and high reward(pretty much doing double the dps of 2nd place) of surrender to madness felt like heaven. i will say though i thoroughly enjoyed MoP and BFA spriest of a chill ramp up and consistent DPS as opposed to most classes who do 90% of their damage in their 20 sec burst window. although it was fun melting people with 3 orb mind flay insanity back in mop. shadowlands was decent and atleast we were pretty good AoE dps with searing nightmare/mindbender cleave along with nightfae making VF lower CD.
@MrTreefrog98
@MrTreefrog98 3 месяца назад
You nailed the feeling of s2m. I have never practiced a rotation on a dummy so much to try to get a consistent third void torrent. So thrilling to play. So so so much fun
@bighouse581
@bighouse581 3 месяца назад
"Then you die. Horribly." Surrender was such a fun ability
@uogolnieniinni3631
@uogolnieniinni3631 3 месяца назад
s2m was peak wow for me
@tekamer6566
@tekamer6566 2 месяца назад
Best design? no for sure not they were almost impossible to balance. Most fun ? YES YES YES.
@Sammysapphira
@Sammysapphira 2 месяца назад
S2m was literally impossible to balance and broke the game. Your definition of "good design" is unbeleivably skewed.
@shadowenergyAI
@shadowenergyAI Месяц назад
opened video just to listen to maroon 5 payphone, instead got introduced to new songs as a bonus.
@Spanakopitaa
@Spanakopitaa Год назад
Dragonflight is actually a very nice game.
@quetz6335
@quetz6335 Год назад
Too bad the combat feels horrible. Its become way too bloated and spammy and theres no real balance between classes/specs at all.
@chukky1124
@chukky1124 Год назад
@@quetz6335 there is a Nice balance in pve. and people that play retail love the Fast pace instead of the slow dreadfull wotlk playstyle. and i play both.. but there is no challenge to wotlk what so ever. 3 tactics per boss , the dungeons are not a challenge and the raids are easy as hell compared to retail. the combat feels waaay better then wotlk.
@KiiiiDFresH2oo9
@KiiiiDFresH2oo9 Год назад
@@quetz6335 Actually, its better than ever tbh. Compare it to the last expansions...
@jointser1008
@jointser1008 Год назад
​@@quetz6335 not all classes in retail are like this BM and fury are way more simple
@lawlestest
@lawlestest Год назад
it actually isn't. timeless isle 3.0 (zaralek caverns), same old same old... daily reps, worldquests, broken PVP with 2 classes still dominating, every class literally feels the same with some doing more damage where others don't do enough. but i guess blizz fans, WoW fans in particular, would eat shit off a golden plate for a 100$ pricetag if it's by blizz.
@vovkabondarev7416
@vovkabondarev7416 3 дня назад
Came for memes, stayed for talent
@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty
@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty Год назад
I heard “Void” said so often in one sentence that my brain half died for a sec
@endofexistence2149
@endofexistence2149 3 месяца назад
Nothing he said on that opener was really hard. People really exaggerate wow spells and rotations. The game is old of course it's going to have more than a version of itself that was played over a decade ago. There are only a handful of specs in retail that have complicated openers. The rest just sound tedious but take like less than an hour of training to get down. All he did in the retail version was sound more wordy but as a shadow priest player myself the opener barely registers in my mind. You also have the option of not doing the pre pull cast since that's really only necessary for top guilds which noone in the comment section is a part of. In normal and heroic raiding you can get by just fine without doing the cutting edge stuff.
@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty
@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty 3 месяца назад
@@endofexistence2149 When did I say the opener was hard?
@markus1351
@markus1351 Год назад
the funny thing is,... even the wrath rotation is more complex than many DPS in other games
@josedavidmunozmartinez4722
@josedavidmunozmartinez4722 7 месяцев назад
I mean, he did Wrath and not vanilla because Vanilla would have a maximum of... 0 buttons because Spriest would never get to raiding xD
@TheSaltyAdmiral
@TheSaltyAdmiral 2 месяца назад
In all these memes, _one_ thing strikes me: The classic players are always having more fun. There might be a lesson in there somewhere.
@ZediaWoW
@ZediaWoW 2 месяца назад
its pretty easy to cherry pick clips, my guild does nothing but sing and have a laugh on retail, but i can also easily find people malding on classic. just depends on what clips you pick
@hobgoblin9339
@hobgoblin9339 2 месяца назад
explains that the retail rotation is literally 5 buttons. Boomers hear "retail" and immediately cant follow a 5 button rotation.
@Unf0rget
@Unf0rget Год назад
Legit resent what's been happening to all my specs and classes since wod. These busy work class designs are just obnoxious.
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 Год назад
True, i feel like spriest has been hit with it especially hard, I do think its in a "better" place then the past few expansions. I have not played it a ton, just recently started playing it again so can't really speak much on the retail side.
@jji7447
@jji7447 Год назад
I'll let you in on a little secret: most specs have an easy-mode version that does enuogh damage/healing for the majority of raiding/dungeon content. Leaves the player room to grow, but provides them with a less intensive rotation if they want to go that route. For shadow, swap the Void Eruption talent to Dark Ascension.
@Unf0rget
@Unf0rget Год назад
Its not a matter of something being hard. Its the busy work and its on the specs I used to like. Either I hate what the class has become like warrior and shaman and/or what it is now is miserable and distant from its original play style like priest across holy and shadow. Those were my classes from vanilla to mop and every time I peek in on an xpack I just cant stomach the idea of how they play. Seeing shadow's talents was crushing in the dragonflight beta.
@billymays9296
@billymays9296 2 месяца назад
​@Unf0rget nah this is not a good take. As a Retail player I can tell you that even in cata I'm bored when playing due to the slow gameplay and low apm of specs.
@Unf0rget
@Unf0rget 2 месяца назад
What do you mean? Cata is when you already have a button every global and haste affects gcd. Its also when button use still meant at least something and abilities had impact instead of doing tickle damage until cds. Cata is also when some specs were at their most involved like demology warlock. I am certain that I have loathed every iteration of priest and warrior since legion. When choosing between many nonsense buttons and few yet impactful ones I know where I stand. After being bored of wow for a few years I was surprised by how much returning to vanilla restored my enjoyment. Somehow basic ass raiding was much more fun than retail's min/max ladder. Also the main thing about retail isn't bad vs good. Its audience exchange. Retail left the original appeals of wow behind and with each xpack expanded the affected areas. Bit by bit extruding the original audience in exchange for people who like what the game is now. And mmos are so scarce that no alternative really exists. People who like retail aren't in the wrong. Developers are in the wrong for being blind to how they've shoved the game towards an entirely different mix of appeals in their relentless push to try and optimize convenience and player retention.
@Blitzcomin
@Blitzcomin Год назад
this is why retail riding is more fun.
@jonathanhawken
@jonathanhawken 2 месяца назад
man early season 2 dragonflight shadowpriest was so fun with void eruption spec and 2min spoils trinket. god it was fun as fuck.
@m.moonsie
@m.moonsie Год назад
I am playing for fun. I don't need extra stressful events after logging out from work 🤣
@phoenix7289
@phoenix7289 2 месяца назад
Now let's see Paul Allen's shadow priest... pre 7.1 Surrender to Madness Emerald Nightmare raid build 😎
@ivyr336
@ivyr336 2 месяца назад
*plays through fire and flames at 200% speed*
@mcrbelieve3923
@mcrbelieve3923 Год назад
People should realize that retail rotation becomes simple after playing for a while, it's only overwhelming the few first times. Like, I can totally sing and talk about whatever while doing a very good rotation, the thing is when you add boss mechanics on top of that, that's where you need to be focused. (unless you did the boss 50 times ofc)
@pkuderov
@pkuderov 6 месяцев назад
well, honestly, I expected to see footage from Muqq's POV for the WotLK part. At that time he was a bit of a legend. In my case, he inspired me to take disc/shadow path for my first WoW character :) also, his POVs were a great promotion of the TukUI (ancestor of ElvUI and others) :)
@josedavidmunozmartinez4722
@josedavidmunozmartinez4722 2 месяца назад
I mean, you really should do a comparison between Hpaladin in Wrath versus Retail hahahah, that would be even more fun 😂😂😂
@sarxeye
@sarxeye Год назад
Tbh as a casual gamer I realy like the wotlk sprirst gamestyle
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 Год назад
I used to try hard and wanted to be “the best.” These days i just don’t care, just want to relax and have a good time playing the game. You can still accomplish that on retail, but at the moment wrath is the most fun for me. I kind of go through phases though and jump around to different game versions.
@rock_gamer_stig5188
@rock_gamer_stig5188 Месяц назад
The SPriest in my guild was one of our top DPS for all of wrath lol
@Matg1699
@Matg1699 3 месяца назад
Both are at the bottom of the dps chart, difference is, one of them is doing advanced C++ coding to create a new class just to enjoy the game while the other is drunk and grooving to music while not paying attention.
@MrMhtmht
@MrMhtmht Год назад
Retail is for the triple masked
@amandapelland
@amandapelland Год назад
I LOVE these videos. I laugh so much!
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 Год назад
Glad you enjoy them, anything you want to see next?
@amandapelland
@amandapelland Год назад
I would love to see other retail vs classic class videos, so incredibly funny because it's true!!
@CJ24million
@CJ24million Год назад
why he singing the suite life of zack and cody LOOL
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 Год назад
I was trying so hard to remember where it was from earlier, then taking a piss it came to me. Pretty sure its iCarly 🤣
@jonathan13co
@jonathan13co 2 месяца назад
Jokes aside that spriest retail rotations isn't even that bad. It flows very well and feels natural after playing the spec for a short amount of time. You always have something to cast, your rotation is spiced a little during execute phases and despite priests having very low mobility, you get just enough instant cast breaks to move where you need to. And also as usual they're OP af by the end of the expansion...
@svens.1871
@svens.1871 2 месяца назад
And the spriest in wrath was still more challenging than most other dps specs though
@prodobnoxious
@prodobnoxious 2 месяца назад
Second guy is me in retail on my paladin lmao
@kadmodir
@kadmodir Год назад
Meanwhile fury warriors... R-R-R-RAMPAGE!!!
@driiifter
@driiifter Год назад
500 APM and a giga 7 head, A Beautiful Mind, Limitless, Good Will Hunting tier rotation, just to be bottom DPS by tank, nice. Reminds me of Unholy in the start of BFA.
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 Год назад
😂
@miniman78910
@miniman78910 Год назад
They aren't bottom or anywhere close to tanks. They are 8th or out 14 dps. The other classes just do more of their dps in the opener compared to shadow.
@gamonwillsaveus
@gamonwillsaveus Год назад
Yo didn’t expect to see Danny’s Dakata the shadow priest to be in the vid lmao he’s actually a pretty good spriest especially in pvp
@notdn
@notdn 2 месяца назад
huhh no lmao
@awestrich2172
@awestrich2172 2 месяца назад
Once folks start expecting you to put a little conveyor belt of abilities on the screen, ima play something else
@LoganH0076
@LoganH0076 Год назад
The best part is that on retail you were still no where near the top dps lol
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 Год назад
Spriest been like that for a while i think. That was the #5 overall parse for the boss too lol
@Hjortur95
@Hjortur95 3 месяца назад
isnt this just a 12 step button-by-button opener into keeping your dots rolling, mind blast cycling, and voidform on cooldown
@aonirsplayground6224
@aonirsplayground6224 Год назад
The issue with retail is and never was the engaging raiding experience, the surrounding part and the focus on everything to reach ONLY that ending of raiding or pvp is what kills it, wrath was showing the same signs however it was blinded by it being a progressive system and also the content of it being extremely lore heavy and liked. Basically have classic hardship of leveling skills, everything with some (if not all) combat mechanics of retail and you get a perfect game, no need to rush to max lvl feeling like its a chore to level and actually hard('ish) encounters making gear worthwhile endeveour.
@cs.esmaeili
@cs.esmaeili 3 месяца назад
we need old days
@billymays9296
@billymays9296 2 месяца назад
Play Classic then
@christianclark9494
@christianclark9494 2 месяца назад
*cries in arcane mage*
@That_Man_Ski
@That_Man_Ski Год назад
😂 love this series!!
@rochellepaws
@rochellepaws 3 месяца назад
It's ironically simpler and more mindless in retail since everyone just imports a weakaura and follows it without understanding anything about their spec.
@Cybrok
@Cybrok Год назад
Arcane
@isaachaywood9629
@isaachaywood9629 5 месяцев назад
Too be fair though classic also has a lot of what I like to call "the bullshit" such as like clipping and stuff like that, like canceling your mind flay can be worth it or not worth it depending at what point in the cast you're at etc. definitely don't think its rotation is complicated, but if you don't know things like that you're gonna be trash at the class. and most classic classes have some form of "the bullshit" for example, resto druids 4 set from icc causes your rejuv to have a chance to copy over to a new target at random with a new rejuv, but the copy has a completely different spell id despite having the same name and doing the same thing, and it takes prio over your normal rejuvs in a weird way. The effect of that is that if you try to cast a new rejuv on someone who already has a copy of one on them, it just takes your mana and dosent put a new rejuv on. So if you aren't aware of this and don't get an addon of some kind or a weakaura to specifically display a different icon on health bars for the rejuv, you're just going to suck when you're blanket healing.
@Zola_cero
@Zola_cero Год назад
I love how you have to do all those things in retail and you are doing about 50-75% dmg of top dps
@Allihuge
@Allihuge Год назад
I love how you say that based on 30 sec of a 4-5 min fight ...
@Mayhem554
@Mayhem554 2 месяца назад
Shadow priest is one of the easier rdps specs in retail wow too, massively easier than firemage for example.
@tobi3038
@tobi3038 3 месяца назад
Wotlk ele sham best.. Put down totems Pop heroism Lightning bolt and Lava burst... To infinity and beyond....😎
@tomasiarity
@tomasiarity 11 месяцев назад
Retail aint so bad compared to other classes: Keep DoTs up, keep big spells on cooldown, use procs and use filler spell. The usual, really.
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 11 месяцев назад
Yeah I have been playing a bit of both, retail really isnt that crazy. At the time i made this video though, i hadn’t played retail in a while and it was a bit overwhelming trying something besides my main (survival hunter).
@tegg7017
@tegg7017 2 месяца назад
Seems actually free
@Another_Dusk
@Another_Dusk 13 дней назад
DOT master
@jani14jani
@jani14jani Год назад
Guys I quit DF around the end of P1. I played outlaw rogue and as a casual player the APM of a outlaw rogue is too much. And to be honest have no desire to put in the time to master it properly. What are the easiest classes for a casual player in retail for p2?
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 Год назад
Prob bm hunter for ranged, mele maybe fury warrior, but they are high apm but you aren’t hitting lot of different buttons
@jani14jani
@jani14jani Год назад
​@@Ross_2312 Thanks! I dusted of my 70lv warrior. Fury seems nice, yes it's pretty high apm (but not nearly as high as outlaw) and I have less buttons to press. Basically just zug-zug and use cooldowns.
@aufkeinsten7883
@aufkeinsten7883 Год назад
My guy, Sub was better from ~mid P1 anyways and before it was only VERY slightly worse, noticable only in ~21+ keys x)
@billymays9296
@billymays9296 2 месяца назад
​@@jani14janithere aren't "phases" in Retail, there are Seasons.
@Urothewarrior
@Urothewarrior Год назад
Dakata!!
@davidfence6939
@davidfence6939 2 месяца назад
A reminder of why i came back to play Classic and not retail. Raiding was my escape nearly 2 decades ago. Why play some pointlessly over complicated BS when i wanf to relax?
@ZapatosVibes
@ZapatosVibes 5 месяцев назад
Should have been vanilla era, even better xD
@Pablochette98
@Pablochette98 9 месяцев назад
thanks god for paladins
@romanbloomfield9066
@romanbloomfield9066 3 месяца назад
Clipping mind flay is the whole reason I love classic spriest. Opens up a lot of skill expression on how well you can clip
@sierraj7480
@sierraj7480 6 месяцев назад
Lol this is easy mode. You gotta look at monk rotation 😂
@Mukulukku
@Mukulukku Год назад
Also, everything in retail now feels like a super saiyan poppin off. For some reason, the straight forward rotations from wrath feel more impactful and satisfying to me.
@vicsterX
@vicsterX Год назад
Do you pat yourself at the back while typing this?
@Mukulukku
@Mukulukku Год назад
@@vicsterX nope, just stating my opinion. Do you pat yourself at the back for your comment now?
@jontopham2742
@jontopham2742 Год назад
Shadow priest still have a challenging asymmetrical rotation regardless
@aufkeinsten7883
@aufkeinsten7883 Год назад
You talking about wrath? Because that shit is anything but challenging mate..
@jontopham2742
@jontopham2742 Год назад
@@aufkeinsten7883 I actually forgot I never played shadow in wrath I switched classes that xpack was hard in bc tho
@siedaification
@siedaification Год назад
People say it’s not challenging and then do absolutely shiteeeee damage. Spriest rotation is not ez if you are doing it correctly fam
@thevlaka
@thevlaka Год назад
3 buttons vs 82178764 buttons
@minoxiis3419
@minoxiis3419 Год назад
This is why I use hekili
@JohnSmith-wx5fl
@JohnSmith-wx5fl 10 месяцев назад
yeah but, who looks like they are having more fun?
@n3v3r1s4
@n3v3r1s4 2 месяца назад
just 😂
@CUSTER69420
@CUSTER69420 Год назад
is it just me or did i hear a raze boombot at 1:42 lol
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 Год назад
probably, the video of the guy singing was from a valorant video lmao!
@Buskyb
@Buskyb 3 месяца назад
I love the spriest in classic, tbc the most but i cant stand spriest in retail
@user-zn1db9fe5w
@user-zn1db9fe5w 2 месяца назад
1:31 and he is last in dps ranking...
@seanmurphy7953
@seanmurphy7953 Год назад
One guy is stressed out trying to make his hourly wage, and the other is off of work chillin with his friends having a good time. There is a clear winner here
@chukky1124
@chukky1124 Год назад
why stressed out ? ... i play shadow priest and if you know the rotation its piss easy... its harder to play wotlk since people act like its the hardest game these days while the raids and dungeons are easy as hell... i play both and have more fun in retail for the reason stated above...
@seanmurphy7953
@seanmurphy7953 Год назад
@@chukky1124 wotlk is hard because people act like it's hard? Wut
@jointser1008
@jointser1008 Год назад
​@@seanmurphy7953 even ulduar HC isn't hard, however your "hourly wage" is inaccurate it isn't shadowlands anymore there is no such thing like chores
@seanmurphy7953
@seanmurphy7953 Год назад
@@jointser1008 dps rotations like this and 20 boss mechanics a fight say otherwise
@jointser1008
@jointser1008 Год назад
@@seanmurphy7953 except this guy was doing mythic. aberrus NHC is quite simple and 2 bosses are almost tank and spank. the rotastion depends on what you play if you play frost mage in retail then all what you have to do is pressing frostbolt until icy touch or brainfreeze proccs use the proccs and repeat.
@creeperkop1441
@creeperkop1441 Год назад
name of song ?
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 Год назад
Its the icarly theme song
@Azrael79a
@Azrael79a Год назад
I've never tried Shadow since Legion, but it really is hard to find a 'simple' DPS class or spec now days. Closest I can find is like Arcane Mage and Destro Lock, but I don't play dps-only classes seriously. I originally thought Ret would be simple and easy, but it still feels kinda complicated to me. I usually just end up tanking as Prot either way. No matter what class or spec I play though, I usually have nearly 3 full bars of abilities I need to have ready and on hand. Which is honestly ridiculous lol. It's fine if that's your main, but I have 1 of every class plus an extra DK and I've only been able to figure out 1 spec on most of them. Sometimes I level up a new character just to learn a spec from scratch lol.
@EdgeyStyle
@EdgeyStyle Год назад
Play hunter bm or MM and you'll see what easy really looks like
@Azrael79a
@Azrael79a Год назад
@@EdgeyStyle BM is pretty simple, but probably the most buttonmashy ranged dps in the game lol. Practically like playing a melee class. I should level up another hunter as MM. I have all my 70's on one server and then my BM hunter on another, but they're like conjoined servers so it's not worth server transferring lmfao. I just don't feel like switching from one server to the other every time I wanna play them.
@xadamx94
@xadamx94 Год назад
arcane really is not simple in DF. shadwolands was ass but it was peak arcane gameplay tbh
@MikeKey91
@MikeKey91 3 месяца назад
I'm confused - so what is the complex game version now?
@______-nh7ib
@______-nh7ib 2 месяца назад
Retail (dragon flight)
@TemprTV
@TemprTV Год назад
LMFAO this vid was hilarious
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 Год назад
Hey! I wasn’t sure how to contact you as far as using your content, i hope you dont mind. I have your channel linked in the description. Started playing shadow priest after letting mine collect dust since legion, and your channel has helped me out a lot.
@TemprTV
@TemprTV Год назад
@@Ross_2312 yeah you're totally fine, feel free to use my stuff whenever if something else comes across like this! but I'm glad I've been able to help out even a little bit, thats the goal!
@guttiyy
@guttiyy Год назад
Masterpiece🎉
@Warpgatez
@Warpgatez Год назад
Fucking love it lol.
@1978chrono
@1978chrono Год назад
i find shadow priest way more fun than mages atm
@xadamx94
@xadamx94 Год назад
mages are just clunky right now. kinda like tbc
@mateukole5660
@mateukole5660 Год назад
Legit question - is casting full mindflay before applying swp actually dps increase? Back in original wrath the theorycrafting formula was 2 ticks of mindflay to get 5 stacks and then swp.
@skyamerico
@skyamerico Год назад
it is 2 ticks of mindflay, the video is just the simple version for noobies, there is another video with the advanced rotation.
@siedaification
@siedaification Год назад
As a spriest main, this intro is wrong since t8 4 piece. Your opener is really… mind blast, VT, DP, full tick mind flay, swp, mind blast into word:death, then flay away. If you only do a 2 tick mind flay you have a second of downtime before your 2nd mind blast comes up, instead of it being seemless
@ShoesOnTheFeet
@ShoesOnTheFeet Год назад
​@@siedaification nah, there is no reason to do a full mind flay. You need 5 stacks of shadow weaving and 2 tick mf is enough for that. On short fights or fights were your target will die fast you can actually put up swp before mindflay and it is a small dps upgrade.
@xXTDCXxCaboose
@xXTDCXxCaboose 3 месяца назад
The True Wrath Opener: 1.Prepot 2.Mindblast (pre pull) 3.Shadowfiend 4.HyperSpeed Accelerators 5.Vamp Touch 6.Devouring Plague 7.Mind Flay 2-tic 8.Shadow Word: Pain 9.Inner Fire+Mind Flay 3-tic
@msk5992
@msk5992 Год назад
who is singing on the 2nd one o.o
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 Год назад
Jackgloetv its in description
@vizziiiiob
@vizziiiiob Месяц назад
The most complex class and build to play with, in era. No raid is completed without one
@psychoangel887
@psychoangel887 2 месяца назад
and both are doing legit 0 dmg
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 Месяц назад
Both patches that they were playing in this video spriests were like bottom dps 😂 but when are they not?
@alex132788
@alex132788 2 месяца назад
isn't the 2nd one disc?
@Baltr
@Baltr Год назад
and then you get t10 4p and you just remove mind blast out of your rotation lmao
@xXShakenXx
@xXShakenXx Год назад
The most unrealistic thing about this is getting accepted into a classic raid as an spriest.
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 Год назад
I have had no issues myself
@filipl4567
@filipl4567 Год назад
what wa/addon show you prio list at top?
@MrInSahne
@MrInSahne Год назад
Soundtrack on the beginning?
@5aiv.
@5aiv. 7 месяцев назад
i'm not doing all that
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 7 месяцев назад
😂
@user-zx6rf4ob8b
@user-zx6rf4ob8b 7 месяцев назад
Is that shadow priest retail naowh weakaura?
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 7 месяцев назад
Im not sure, the retail shadow priest footage was courtesy of tempr his channel is in the description
@grimmjowthepantera
@grimmjowthepantera Год назад
Rotation addons are the biggest shit ever ...... from 1-70 i learn my rotation ez .
@ToastedBread68
@ToastedBread68 7 месяцев назад
You don't have to complicate retail that much. Shadow isn't hard to play at a high level. Unless you're an idiot who just wants to get that gold parse every fight, your damage as shadow will be fine. Just keep everything on cooldown and don't cap insanity. That's it. Shit's easy.
@DennisTried
@DennisTried 3 дня назад
Where can i find the full clip of dude singing?
@Ross_2312
@Ross_2312 3 дня назад
Check description, all creators featured are linked
@DennisTried
@DennisTried День назад
@@Ross_2312 thanks fam
@LewReviews
@LewReviews Год назад
I am going to say it people can get angry upset it's fine but this is the truth. Wow is more fun when playing half afk 😂 having music on or a second screen and farming is half of wow and having a ez rotation in raids is just way better for the average player who wants to have fun with friends and chill out.
@jointser1008
@jointser1008 Год назад
You don't have to min max if you play casual tho
@jfklmk13447
@jfklmk13447 Год назад
hahaha love this
@Syleion
@Syleion Год назад
can someone explain, how the hell did demo lock have 300k dps ? I play destro but if someone can teach me to deal as much dps as demo on video, i would gladly try it :D
@jji7447
@jji7447 Год назад
It's not going to be a constant 300k, not even close. He spiked that high early due to Potion+trinkets along with his Demoic Tyrant and probably Nether portal. (Also likely a Power Infusion, Demo is a good target for it.) Most specs can/will spike really high on pull or shortly after, since you have everything stacked up all at once. Cooldowns, potions, trinkets, bloodlust, ect.
@kohlicoide2258
@kohlicoide2258 Год назад
Demo has a extrem strong burst opener (just like unholy) but both Drops after 1 minute on the same lvl just like other dds. Both are actually at the moment "It is way more importent to master your opener then your rotation." (Unholy Main)
@AlexCoombes123
@AlexCoombes123 Год назад
Tips for spriest. Just use hekili for like 2 weeks. Get your muscle memory in and watch your name rise to the top of the meters. Pew pew.
@thew1ngman
@thew1ngman Год назад
Retail isn't hard. It really just boils down to Use damage cooldowns > Use procs > apply dots > use filler. Its just faster paced. If you're trying to min-max an opener, its just a set rotation you need to follow then revert to maintenance. Retail is just faster paced but its very mindless.
@pyromanglad1136
@pyromanglad1136 Год назад
If you have atleast 50iq neither classic nor retail is hard to press your buttons properly, it's all about the mood. And for now retail feels like Chinese mobile mmo game, while classic feels like warcraft
@samnsamole9448
@samnsamole9448 Год назад
it's kind of funny isn't it, WoW used to be THE game that every other game wanted to copy, always trying to make the next "WoW killer". and somehow, WoW slowly started copying other games and becoming more generic and full of features and cash shop.
@jointser1008
@jointser1008 Год назад
Agree with the upper part from your comment but L take for the lower part
@davidsawyers8754
@davidsawyers8754 3 месяца назад
I love how the classic Andy players are so happy to play the game and the retail players are super stiff neck trying to max everything player.
@Sammysapphira
@Sammysapphira 2 месяца назад
It's ironic because classic players are the biggest spergs in the world. Have you never seen a world buff train to clear content that dies in 20 seconds?
@Deadmeatsz
@Deadmeatsz 5 месяцев назад
The retail nerds min-maxed the fun out of every aspect of WoW, killing any form of deviation from the meta.
@MoonPoxX
@MoonPoxX 3 месяца назад
Tell me you've never played retail without actually telling me you've never played retail.
@Deadmeatsz
@Deadmeatsz 3 месяца назад
@@MoonPoxX tell me you are a young meta slave with no experience of games prior to mid 2010s without telling me you are one: the comment 😂
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