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RAIL BIKE - Version 10 - NEW Front Wheel Outrigger and Wheel Guide System - and it doesn't work :) 

Suluk46
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This is the 10th prototype of the railbike I am designing and building. I went ahead and made some major conceptual changes with this one, adding the entire system to the front wheel. Everyone has some fairly real concerns, myself included, and those concerns were validated during testing. The conclusion is that if I wanted to go with a full front wheel system only, I would need to add some additional supports and bracing, none of which I am willing to do as it makes it more complicated, bulkier, and heavier. At the end of the video, you can see how well Version ( works with the shorter side guide wheels. That is likely what I will be moving forward with.
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@nicholascamburako7326
@nicholascamburako7326 3 месяца назад
at time 8:32 you were having an issue with the guide wheels. If you look carefully at the video, the front of the two wheel s is down, but the back one is not. Appears to be some binding in your pivot. When you "pushed the bike down the rails" a bit later, you'll see this corrects itself. BTW... love the videos and the progress in development of this. I also like the way this let's you navigate the turnouts (switch track) sections of the rail.
@vintagestockimages
@vintagestockimages Год назад
Forgot to share that I am using longboard wheels to give a wider flat surface so the front wheel does not pull or push either way. Also on my next version I am going to put my guides on a spring coil so it can bump out on rail that has been flattened out or weeds. Take care.
@狭山-m5n
@狭山-m5n Год назад
とても参考になります!
@dalestephan
@dalestephan Год назад
Nice! The rear mount is so much more stable than the front mount. 👍🏼👍🏼
@Suluk46
@Suluk46 Год назад
I haven't wrapped my head around as to why, but the difference with the outrigger on the front compared to the back is significant. I know the front wheel turning is a big issue for it, but it is nearly unusable when the outrigger is on the front. I've got the system pretty dialed in now, just gonna do some upgrades and we should be in a very good position to take it for a real spin.
@tribalsean
@tribalsean Год назад
Awesome progression and testing. Love following along. Grest video, thank you for sharing.... am thinking some kind of to and fro shock as part of an angle purchase from the seat stem to other rail wheels, creating a triangle for better lean control
@Suluk46
@Suluk46 Год назад
It's pretty fun tinkering around with this crazy contraption. I'm pretty happy with what I have learned so far, seems that a very real working system is in the near future. I have not confirmed that I want to do a triangle support yet, not because it won't work very well, but because it complicates the system a bit and I am trying to keep it small and light. That said, if I can't get the single pole outrigger to work well, I'll add bracing. Other thing on my "nice to have" list is spring loaded side guides...that would be a huge help.
@SpeckyTV
@SpeckyTV Год назад
Thanks for your experiences! I will try to copy your idea for railway bike travel in Europe)
@Suluk46
@Suluk46 Год назад
Awesome! Good luck, it will get addictive...
@BeenThrDunThat
@BeenThrDunThat Год назад
There is another channel that i just stumbled on 'Cam Engineering', he just took his (electric) rail bike on an all day trip. May get inspiration from how he engineered his bike.
@Suluk46
@Suluk46 Год назад
I follow his channel, and have for a long time. He has done a great job with his build. We have similar concepts, mine is just a bit basic compared to some of his parts.
@KevinOutdoors
@KevinOutdoors Год назад
Very cool. Somewhere in an old (~35 year old) Canadian Geographic magazine there is an article about a couple that built something like this to travel on the rails.
@Suluk46
@Suluk46 Год назад
Glad you like it man, it is almost finished. They have been around for years, but with limited areas to ride them has obviously not taken off. I didn't know much about them a year ago when I thought I came up with the idea :) but the railbike community is much larger than you would think, and full of very helpful people.
@KevinOutdoors
@KevinOutdoors Год назад
@@Suluk46 Cool, I hadn't seen anything like this since the article I read many years ago.
@adammcghee1466
@adammcghee1466 Год назад
I've been thinking about this thing. What if, instead of an outrigger, you created some sort of lock that prevented the fork from turning in the head tube. You could do a single brace from the handlebar back to the top tube. You'd still need the guide wheels on the front. If you can get going, the bike should stay upright. The back wheel should follow the front - and the front is locked to the rail (in theory). If the bike is moving, it should want to be upright, yeah? It's easy for me to say - I'm not out there suffering with it. Just thinking there's a balance between rider skill and mechanical crutch to be found.
@Suluk46
@Suluk46 Год назад
I also would like to remove the outrigger. It might be possible but I tried a couple of versions ago and it is very difficult to ride. Let me get this version working nicely and then we can go from there. I appreciate the feedback though. It's a fun project.
@paschberg
@paschberg Год назад
The front mount of the outrigger would need also a two wheel guidance on the opposite rail; then it could work probably as a steering (in my case it worked, but I had used a more baroque construction with a jacked up frontwheel on a small foldable railcar ;-). As you showed clearly, however the momentum is horrible. As I remember after testing I had sore muscles - not in the legs, but in the arms)
@Suluk46
@Suluk46 Год назад
I quickly understood that I did not have the appropriate support and bracing for the front wheel outrigger :) But alas, one must fail often and fail fast, then move on...which I have done...lol
@sargento87554
@sargento87554 Год назад
Loved
@Thomas-pq4ys
@Thomas-pq4ys Год назад
Hello..... it's me again. Again, nice try, I see how you are thinking, but failure is all part of railbiking.... I'm appreciative of you documenting your designing process. keep trying. By version 20, you'll be getting close. I should talk... i have yet to get back to it, but it's coming down to me making my own guide wheels from scratch. No stock, off-the-shelf wheel is made to my spec's... I need machine tools. Your chances of getting fined, busted, are slim. I've even had rail maintenance employees say it was really cool what I was doing. Again, keep at it. I'm a fan of watching your progress, and regress. You're right, it never does end.... but the outrigger must be attached to the frame, up high, somewhere, the head or seat tube. I've been up to 25 mph with my version I called, "The Flier." It was fast, but dangerous. It took me 2 seasons to become pain free again, but what price the learning curve? I was hired by the maker of that double flanged guide wheel to build a guide around it that worked. I had to modify it, much to the chagrin of the guy who sells it.... but it worked much better. I even did a 80 mile ride with it. Needless to say, the guy didn't go for my guide because of this mod... his ego got bruised, I called his baby ugly. Oh well... I ended up with a half decent, reasonably successful railbike that I used for 10+ years. In spite of the mod, It still couldn't deal with the heavy rail imperfections in the industrial area where I experimented, or, any debris piled against the outside of the rail. I'd get unceremoniously dumped, rerailed. Learning how to fall became a useful skill. My last prototype could negotiate crossings, easily, riding no hands. That was a huge victory..... but I had access to machine tools, and large chunks of UHMW plastic then. It was also quite noisy, and being a musician, I need quiet operation. Rock on...
@Suluk46
@Suluk46 Год назад
Hello again Thomas. I am glad you are still following along, it is good fun. At this point, I am just trying a bunch of stuff out to increase my railbike knowledge. I am sure that I will be continuously developing it, even after I settle on a final design. There are pro’s and con’s to each of the versions I have tried. For instance, the angled side guide wheels were the smoothest and fastest system, but were more prone to derailment and had issues clearing some of the transitions in the track. The system at the end of this video is very robust, mainly because it has the vertical, small diameter, side guides. The rear outrigger works well, I do need to replace the bearings in the outrigger wheel though. They are preloaded, so do not spin freely. I might increase the tube size to stiffen that up, but I haven’t had an issue yet so we will see. I can imagine that high speeds can get quite scary. I have never measured how fast mine can go, but it is a very good pace. And I haven’t experienced any significant derailment that has lead to injury…yet. 80 miles is a great ride. Once I beef up this one, I plan to go for a “durability” test to see how it handles a bit more seat time.
@ferraritoybox
@ferraritoybox Месяц назад
maybe the fork should be fixed so it can’t steer like straight ahead just a thought
@ken9384
@ken9384 9 месяцев назад
How can I get one of those
@Suluk46
@Suluk46 9 месяцев назад
I'll be selling them early next year.
@rx4rays7
@rx4rays7 Год назад
You need to triangulate things. Too much “bobbing”. You are relying too much on the strength of the joints. Think bracing. Front to out rigger,… fork down to outrigger". More/longer front. If you watch the video,… you can see the pulsing
@Suluk46
@Suluk46 Год назад
I know it seems that way but I am purposely using only a single member so the device is universal in nature. A triangulated system would certainly be more efficient and likely stiffer, but I can design the single member easily as well. I very well may incorporate a brace, but I'm not there yet. Appreciate the input though, it's been a fun project.
@julianleblanc385
@julianleblanc385 6 месяцев назад
triangles are cool. the lateral force is killing you.
@vintagestockimages
@vintagestockimages Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PhR6HINkiQQ.html Hi speeds need a weight. I am on my third version myself with some interesting differences as mine is designed for camping with water storage as part of my left rail weight. Thought you would enjoy this youtube going at a good clip. Cannot wait for spring. Thanks for the series.
@Suluk46
@Suluk46 Год назад
Awesome work. I'm leaning towards something similar in my quest for a universal design. Do you have guide wheel on the outside of the rail? Or just the insides? It's hard to tell in the video.
@evergladesfl
@evergladesfl 11 месяцев назад
“I was wrong, very rare” he says on version …..10.
@Suluk46
@Suluk46 11 месяцев назад
The "0" is a typo. This is version 1.
@markrabo
@markrabo Год назад
Told you it wouldn't work.
@Suluk46
@Suluk46 Год назад
Lol. You were right....I'm gonna give up.
@markrabo
@markrabo Год назад
@@Suluk46 Good idea
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