Ralph Tresvant - Living In A Dream (1987) - The Album We NEVER Got 

I actually said about a year ago, what would NE Heartbreak sound like if Bobby was on the track with them. The hip hop/r&b swing of the song would’ve been a good fit for him to come back. Where did you hear this story from? Do you have any sources?

@@misterDjayMDJ Jimmy jam & Terry Lewis, Steve Hodge, and Bobby’s own former manager and former lawyer have all given accounts on both the making of NE Heartbreak and on Rizz/Bobby in relation to “Don’t be cruel” taking Rizz’ style from his life is a dream.” Bovine touched on some things during his appearances on the breakfast club. Rizz has kept a lot of shit to himself (he most likely has kept even more shit to himself, to be honest). Rizz is loyal to a fault, as it went against his interest. As far as NE Heartbreak, it was definitely a new Jack swing album (as Jam & Lewis were new Jack swing producers, as were LA & Face, Timmy Gatling, and Teddy Riley, all who worked on Don’t be cruel). Being that Bobby was a New Jack artist, it woulda been a no-brainer to bring him back for the NE Heartbreak album. Biv & Slick weren’t speaking to Bob at that point, but Rizz & Ron wanted to bring him back. Jheryl Busby & Louil Silas were totally against him going on the NE heartbreak album, both due to the issues that Bob caused on the road that lead him getting voted out, and also they invested a lot of money into Bob being a solo artist.

Where did you get that interview from Ralph I heard it years ago but couldn’t find it recently

No it wasn’t, it’s written that Every Little Step initially was going to be for Midnight Star but it eventually went to Bobby. There’s only the rumor that Ralph sang vocals on the track for whatever reason which Ralph didn’t entirely confirm but didn’t deny. Unless you have a credible source, that ain’t true. It Would’ve been cool though but Ralph wrote and produced Living In A Dream on his own prior to submitting it to MCA, he didn’t mention working with Babyface on the project at all.

@@misterDjayMDJ there’s been rumors that Rizz sang vocals to prevent LA & ‘Face from leaving the studio building, due to waiting on Bobby (who was getting high). You can clearly hear Rizz in the chorus, but Rizz never confirmed or deny that either. So it’s possible. I know for a fact that ‘Face and Kevon Edmonds did background vocals though.

100%, Very necessary video. Your welcome and thanks for commenting!

If you’re a new edition fan you know this already. And how much he sacrificed for the group

@@paypastackz2g328 Fans know, but the video is good for individuals that aren’t aware.

That’s right!!!!!!

I didn’t know he actually went and recorded a whole album!! That i didn’t know!!

Preach on brother, preach on!

@@misterDjayMDJ Thanks 🙏🏿👍🏿

@@misterDjayMDJ HeartBreak was the best Album for New Edition. I thought Johnny Gill was a good person to add to the group.

@@malakahbanathyasharahla2302 JG was a perfect match. I can't think of anyone else, who would've fit. 🤔

I can never get enough of N.E. They are my favorite group of all time! I listen to them every day. Please keep making the world smile. I am so proud of you all. I send love and prayers. May God continue to bless you.❤❤❤❤❤❤

👑👑💪🔥🔥🔥🔥Ralph is fantastic singer/ dancer.

Your touch from his album

I agree to a degree. I think people just feel he should've been bigger than the other 4 members because he's the front man, but the truth is his label didn't push the album enough. It stayed in the RnB lane like Johnny Gill when it had more crossover pop appeal than Bobby or BBD. Its probably because Bobby and BBD made sexy RnB popular and Ralph is the master of clean "bubblegum" RnB like Michael Jackson. But even Michael was trying to be New Jack Swing at the time.

What😂 you mean there wouldn’t be a new edition without Ralph I’ll give you that. But Bobby got kicked out and became bigger than new edition and bbd had success with poison as well

@@danielnelson6903 so you are just responding to respond… the group was only signed based off of Ralph’s voice.. we wouldn’t know the rest of them… that’s the point.. and all of the members acknowledge and states this go look it up

@@danielnelson6903 He legit gave up a lot for them to succeed.. Maurice wanted only Ralph and Ralph said “na you gotta want them too” so you just said absolutely nothing. even he postponed his solo because he was for the group.

@@ashleyoya His solo career got postponed because he was under contract by that time and had no choice. But I will always give him props for not turning on the group when he was offered that solo deal as a kid.

THE HISTORIAN HIMSELF! Thank YOU for doing the interview. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

Beautiful job indeed

Lol he commented on the video thanking me for using his content. Reposting his interview is one thing, but specifically using Ralph’s portions in order to tell his side of a story rarely told should be harmless. And I gain no benefit from this video since the intro song is copyrighted. The fans, Rob and maybe Ralph himself will appreciate the effort put into this video. That’s what a real NE fan does. He’s a man, if he’s had a problem I’m pretty sure he’d tell me himself. And we in October, I posted this in June. Lmao be easy.

The fact everyone did their own thing and receive consistent shows and deals for their own act. Ralph sacrificed to keep NE together and they want to take royalties off that name when in reality Ralph should see majority

I just commented on that. What ever happened to that upload??

Agreed! I appreciate you watching!

I agree!

I must concur, Progressively

100% true, even today I believe that tension between the group and Ralph could possibly still be there to an extent. Particularly the “business partners” thing. There’s a lot of groups and bands out there that will only come together just for touring or some sort of business opportunity but outside of that they don’t speak. In the Closer Look doc, he seemed really isolated from the rest of the guys except Johnny. Now all of a sudden he’s the under-appreciated one who gets the least shine off the stage. When in reality New Edition wouldn’t have gotten far without Ralph. After 1988, the world was looking at Bobby; and Ralph was the one who influenced that whole thing. That’s a story worth telling, he deserves credit for that.

@@misterDjayMDJ I always felt that Ralph never got the credit he deserves, even from the ones he has helped the most. And because of the person that he is, he has always done things for the betterment of the group. He is such a selfless individual and for that reason, he has always been my favorite.

@@aliciax7905 The way yall talk you would think Ralph wrote and produced Don't Be Cruel and Posion. Stop trying to attribute their success to Ralph. Ralph just didn't choose the best songs for his albums nor was he that interesting as the others on stage....

“Stop trying to attribute their success to Ralph” I can and will, you know why? Because without Ralph there would’ve been no Candy Girl, Cool It Now, Count Me Out and he carried that group on and off the stage after Bobby left the group. Who sang all the lead and background vocals? Who never missed a performance until these dudes tried to act like he wasn’t the one holding the group down. There would’ve been no Heart Break album if it wasn’t for Ralph. If he wasn’t there to lay that foundation for almost 10 years, MCA wouldn’t have been interested in no damn BBD. For whatever reason it’s like people don’t like this guy as if he had a David Ruffin attitude. I respect all members of New Edition BUT we not gonna sit here and act like Ralph wasn’t the MVP of the group. His side of the story should be told just like there’s. I ain’t have to bash the other members to do it neither, 100% facts. 💯

@@misterDjayMDJ Ralph IS a great lead and the voice no one is denying that. He had more responsibilities ,yes, because that was his role as lead but the others contributed and was there with him in those videos and grueling tours busting their ass too. Bobby actually was fighting to have their music and image mature and he was the one speaking up about the grimey things the managers was doing to them! Some fans are just bitter, Ralph didn't bring IT like the others , all the other stuff is irrelevant...

You are absolutely welcome. Ralph’s story should be told as much as possible without any of the real important parts being left out for whatever reason. If no one will do it, I’ll do it because he deserves the credit and recognition. I’ll be making more videos like this for sure, hope you’ll subscribe if you haven’t already and tune back in. I appreciate your comment!! 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

@@misterDjayMDJ Yes, he does deserves it all and to my knowledge, he never complained about needing more money for leading. In most groups that was an issue. I will subscribe. Did you go to The Culture Tour?

I had planned to go see the tour when they came to MSG, that didn’t work out unfortunately. I was going to try to catch them at the Prudential Center with family but we couldn’t get decent seats at the last minute. These days you have to get the tickets during the presale. I did see NE in Brooklyn for the All Six back in 2014. Almost 10 years ago wow lol.

@@misterDjayMDJ If you don't get decent seats, it is no sense in going. I know me, I have to be able to 👁👁everything!! Lmaoo That crowd @MSG was litty!!.

Exactly and I don’t think there was a Jumbotron for the people in the back lmao. I’ve been learning all their choreography since 2009 so I kinda know their show inside and out at this point lol.

Thanks alot for watching and your comment. Honestly I don’t understand where the Ralph flack even comes from because if nothing else, this video showed that he always put NE first. He even said he enjoyed being a member of NE more than being a solo artist. That man loves the group and there have been WAY WORSE lead singers in history. So for Ralph to be getting the flack that he gets from NE fans is blasphemous. Since I’ve start uploading these sorts of videos, I’ve seen negativity towards him here and there. Back in the day, releasing albums was all about strategic timing. Like you said 1990 was a gray area because the music that was selling that year wasn’t really selling the following year or so afterward. And Ralph dropped last so it wasn’t on him. But we know what it is, thanks again Justan!

Thanks for commenting, where is Urban One radio available to listen?

Facts!

Indeed facts

You are welcome Ms Bell, hope you’ll subscribe to the channel if you haven’t already 🙏🏾

Bobby album bobby his 3rd did well with humpin get away and other songs it wasn't as big as don't be cruel but it still did well. But bobby focused more on supporting Whitney. Now BBD and JG next albums definitely didn't do as well

FACTS

Hey facts tho. Because In the New Edition Story It shows bobby stole Ralph's album ideas for don't be cruel

@@Playboimatrix200 Facts 💯

I agree, but then again maybe he did not demand or insist because he knew MCA Records would sabotage the project and not promote it as it should be promoted because he decided to stike out on his own and leave what MCA records only saw as their cash cow who brought in the majority of their profits at the time (New Edition) in limbo and MCA records was not willing to take that chance

Apparently, one of the original tapes was stolen from Ralph’s mother’s house in Boston. And any other copies were destroyed when the MCA headquarters was burned down in 2008. Very unlikely that we’ll ever hear it.

@@misterDjayMDJ hopefully a copy is found someday though that would be very unlikely One can only hope something is found at least

Do your thing brother man! Thanks for watching 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

I’m not sure if whatever label he was in talks with at the time was called Disney. Disney started Hollywood records in 1990. But either way, it would’ve been a big deal because it was practically tradition for the lead singer of a group to go solo. All eyes would’ve been on Ralph especially since 1987 was a grey area for music until Bad and Sign of the Times came out. He would’ve had that lane to establish himself for sure.

Would’ve been a breach of his contract with MCA if he did that. The only place he would’ve been able to start was MCA. Or whatever label was interested in him at the time would’ve had to buy him out of his contract with MCA, and then he would’ve been in debt to that new label. Pros and cons to both scenarios.

@@misterDjayMDJ been rewatching your NE videos over the past week and rewatched the NE Story too. Theoretically, the best if not only time Ralph could've been selfish and did his own thing was when Maurice offered him a solo deal. He probably would've blown up with a solo album rather than the Candy Girl album. However, there's no telling how far he would've gone because it all depends on if he would've gotten taken advantage of with his first contract and moved to another label. On top of that, I LOVE how you mentioned the breach of contact if he jumped at the Disney deal with 6 million bucks because Ralph's hands were tied. Disney (or whatever label it was) would've had to pull a Jump & Shoot by attempting to buy Ralph out of his MCA deal (like J&S did with Maurice's contract) which could've been a disaster by putting him into a deep hole of debt; AGAIN. Even though it stinks for Ralph, everything happened the way it was meant to happen. It's just sad that the person who seemed the most destined for a solo career sadly had the least successful solo run out of the rest of the group.

@OurKindofEntertainment it’s crazy you say that because since I’ve made that video I wonder how different it would be if I made it again today versus back then. Because my thoughts on Living In A Dream are a bit different now having done since I started making the album retrospective videos.

@@misterDjayMDJ Yeah, I actually looked at A Closer Look for the first time last night because I didn't even know that Ralph interview existed! Heck, I'd welcome a redo of this video because as bad as I feel for Ralph; there was just so much he couldn't do even IF he wanted to as a solo artist because of bad contracts and debt. I never even thought about Bobby getting removed from the group being a blessing for him because he wasn't burdened with the $500k debt each member of the group found themselves in with MCA due to helping them get out of their contract with Jump & Shoot. Living In The Dream could've been a time for Ralph's solo break pre-Heartbreak considering the group was sitting around for a couple of years anyway after Under The Blue Moon anyway. You'd think MCA would welcome Ralph's solo record to encourage more hype for Heartbreak because I'm surprised it only sold 2 million records. Although, if the record did VERY well then I could see them more focused on a 2nd Ralph album OR the album would've fed Ralph via sales and tours for YEARS like Don't Be Cruel did for Bobby! Johnny would've still come to MCA as a solo artist, BUT Bivens' insistence of him joining the group might've saved NE from getting dropped considering it was said the label wasn't interested in a non-Ralph version of the group. However, Johnny might've been the deciding factor in that. I think I feel bad for Ralph mostly due to the backlash from the BBD members who should've been far more grateful to him because he did what he could to get the people working on the NE records to give them a little more than the crumbs on an album. That part of the NE backstory makes me hurt from him more than the lack of major wins as a solo artist because these fellas were supposed to be brothers. BBD banded against Ralph instead of the higher ups who actually made the calls of who sang what on which albums! As I said, things worked out the way they were supposed to. It's just a shame that arguably the most selfless person in NE got the short end of the stick in the longrun. Bobby won because he WAS selfish, the BBD members all had their success and Johnny doesn't really count since he didn't come into NE until after the chaos had already been established. Sure, Ralph sang lead on MOST of the NE records. However, the bad contracts they signed and whatnot weren't necessary a way for Ralph to cash in on his time as the lead singer...

Thanks for watching!

That was 1994

@@marvin469 sensitivity /stone cold gentleman album was 1990

@@BadTV1993 that was the RALPH TRESVANT album . It's going down was the second album

@@marvin469 I Know..I just called it the stone cold gentleman album for kicks .I know it was self titled(first album)

@@BadTV1993 ok lol

What album?

@@pCOCKPRO11 Ralph tresvants "self titled " album !

@SPORT COAT JODI TV ok. JIMMY JAM & TERRY LEWIS'S work. Even one track was from MICHAEL JACKSON. RALPH dropped the ball by wanting to do the writing on his second album and that's why it's not a good album. He was winning.

@@pCOCKPRO11 stone cold gentleman/do what I gotta do/LAST NIGHT /I love u/alright now/love hurts/sensitivity /she's my love thang 🔥. Man u made me pull out my CD . Bruh that album had some heat on it: some serious heat. It had some fillers too but 🔥

@Marvin right. I love it. Found it for 10$ at a record store. I just hate the fact that he wanted to direct his second album..... big mistake. You got JIMMY JAM & TERRY LEWIS in your corner. WTF RALPH LOVE HURTS & ALRIGHT NOW are my favorite tracks. My girl used to love "I LOVE YOU"

the horrible part is Ralph has no clue where those tapes are bc someone stole them out of his mother's house when she passed away.

On top of the fact that the master tapes were destroyed during the fire at Universal in 2008. The tapes at his mother’s must’ve been the original. That’s really unfortunate that we’ll [most likely] never get to hear those songs. I hope karma caught up to whoever stole them.

Will check it out, thanks for commenting and the suggesting my man! 🤝

@@misterDjayMDJ a playlist of the album is on my channel

@@misterDjayMDJ here’s the link to the playlist ru-vid.com/group/PL16nZHjbgHOEBm2dM5r0FQDkBvuw96E47

@@misterDjayMDJ will you also do a video about Bobby Brown’s unreleased album from 1990 called Mystical Magic ?

The Mystical Magic video is next! 🔥

Yeah that threw me way off when he said Ricky was his closest friend in the group. Because Ralph said that Ricky and him were close in the beginning. Weird, one person says one thing and then another says something totally different. People appreciate the sentiment of his performances because we all remember who he once was. I have nothing against any member per se, I just don’t like Ralph being left out and the real story not being told 100%. A lot of inconsistencies. Thanks for commenting

Dam bob was smart AF then. Damn bobby how you gonna do that to your homie ralph

I think they were really close at one point, but it's been rumored that they fell out behind something Bobby did. Bobby and Ricky are closer now because their sobriety partners while touring. Going to meetings, etc.

I totally agree and honestly Bobby antics are getting old

@@url0veang3lyea they fell out because according to Bobby’s nephew, Bobby tried to sleep with one of Ralph’s daughters.