Just traded 1500 for this two months ago, absolutely love it. Wife and I daily drive it and pulls our camper with stress free joy. Kids in back seats are safe, BONUS! Great job RAM
@@rebecahanrahan5556 I have a 2020 2500 mega cab with the air in the rear and love it i do 1200 mile trips from fl to upstate n.y and pull 10k pounds like nothing. The air has a tow setting it lowers it 2.5 inches
i know right. i watch Big Truck Big RV who reviews trucks and rvs and he talks about payload and towing capacities a lot and how the higher trimes have less payload and towing compared to the base work truck trims
Eh 2,000lbs payload is nothing for these trucks. My 2015 ram 2500 megacab says it’s only good for one about 1700 pounds or maybe it was 1650… Anyways I have at least 200 pounds of permanently attached mods to my truck so that’s now only 1500 lbs payload… lol I’ve had at least 2000 to 2300 pounds in the bed so several hundred pounds over my payload capacity and truck is perfectly fine. I have even had at least 3000 pounds combined between tongue weight and weight in the bed of my three-quarter ton Megacab.
The 2019 powerwagon with the 6.4l gas is a fantastic vehicle 2 years in.. no towing with it just a offroader and town worker. Fantastic vehicle no complaints except came with small tires
I bought a ‘21 2500 Laramie with a Cummins back in January & I absolutely love it. More than enough room & power to haul all 6 of us & our 30ft camper around the state. It was definitely a challenge to find a 6 passenger Laramie with body color matching bumpers and grille & a Cummins in our price range but we did it.
@@that_mdrfkr4451 It was definitely difficult finding the right model with 6 seats. We had to get ours delivered from about 450 miles away. Almost had it for a year now & we love it. Great truck. Which trim level are you looking for?
@@hooptietime4427 Laramie for sure but I’d settle for a tier 2 big horn probably. Honestly if I could get a lariat sooner than a 6 month lead time I think I’d give it a shot. The 2022 f250s really stepped it up on the cabins and tech. But I’m a super big Cummins fan so I’m torn
@@that_mdrfkr4451 The Fords are nice. I looked at a couple of those too when I couldn’t find the right Ram. I prefer Ram’s styling but the Fords look pretty badass.
I have a 2020 Ram 2500 Laramie Air Ride Suspension Cummins that I pull a 20 Ton GVW tag trailer with all my equipment. The truck doesn't even break a sweat, It wants more! Its a pulling monster! and when it comes time to slow down, better have your seat belt on because that exhaust brake is a beast!! I just had the DPF and DEF removed last weekend with custom tuning and I cannot wait to get hooked up to that trailer again!
@@inforthewin3231 That is a fine opinion Sir, But there is a reason you dont see many 2005 Ram trucks still on the road today here in Michigan. The last few years Chrysler has stepped up the game across the board. The Trucks and SUV's have the best interiors, paint quality and engine packages in the game right now.
@@inforthewin3231 The only thing that was better about the 2005 was the engine. The transmission and body were garbage. By 200k miles you'll be on your 4th transmission and your whole body will be bondo. This truck has a much better transmission and body.
@@cnetate I looked on the internet for weeks. Found 2, bought one, and before I picked it up the other one was gone. The dealership said they would be totally sold out of HD trucks in a week and they didn't know when they would get one. They gave me an insane amount for my trade in. The trade in values that exist now probably won't ever happen again.
The high output Cummins with the ASIN transmission is an option even on the 3500, , you can only get it on the 3500 but as an option , so, on the 2500 you can only get the standard Cummins, with the 3500 you can choose the standard Cummins for roughly $9000 more than Gas models or the high output Cummins for roughly $12,000 more then the gas model, so, when you are looking to buy a 1 ton ram, it doesn't necessarily mean that it has that high output Cummins in it
i have the same truck leveled on 35's with the stock wheels and i average 16ish in the city and about 19-20 on the hwy here in south Louisiana. I will say though at 2K miles the check engine light came on and showed something with the trans valve body. it drove fine but brought it in and 2 months later I got it back. Apparently they had a recall and i was one of the lucky ones and naturally with dealers not being able to get parts they just replaced the whole trans that had different part number. The dealer told me they made updates to the one that was installed and changes made to the valve body . Other than that what nobody talks about is the factory HC 19 speaker sound system with the sub , this is the best sound system i have ever owned and i have owned all brands . The factory radio in my 2018 raptor was a joke. Anyway great review!
@@ReubenNewton the truck is smooth like stock. I have a few buds that have f250's that are leveled and every time they ride in my truck they say how smooth and quite it is.
Decent review. I drive a variety of 1 ton diesel trucks for work towing stock trailers mostly. The big three all make good trucks. My personal truck is a 21 Ram 3500 HO with the Aisan transmission. Two points that Andre didn’t cover: The Cummins is a slow turning inline diesel that develops its torque early in its power band which makes it good for towing bad for the drag strip. The other point is that the exhaust brake on the Ram is far superior to Ford or GM. I have descended mountain passes with 20,000+ on the gooseneck and there is no pucker factor with the Ram.
Do you feel that the transmission while not towing is unruly and difficult to live with? I have a 2021 SO 6.7 dually and the transmission is great, but I'm about to order a 2022 dually and a bit spooked about what I read on the HDRams forum about that H.O. transmission.
@@LarryMusgrave I don't think so. It is a much firmer shift compared to the 68RFE in the 2500's. I had the chance to test drive both the 2500 and a 3500 before I ordered mine so I knew what I was getting into. My biggest comaint is: When not in tow haul, the trans always wants get to 6th gear as fast as possible and keep the RPM as low as possible....I'm assuming for emissions and fuel economy. Couple that with the sluggish throttle responds gets annoying when you want to accelerate. I still enjoy driving my truck, I drive it everyday.....I learned not to stab the throttle every where I go and just roll Into it....and it does good for me.
@@3076gds I put a PC31 Throttle Commander on mine and it massively helps with the lazy throttle by remapping the throttle input. You may want to consider that option, there are a few companies that make these, they all do exactly the same thing.... so what can you get the cheapest/ used would be the question. I got mine for $220 used in the HDRam forum.
When I was deciding between diesel and gas I did a lot of research and also talked with my uncle who is a diesel mechanic. Based on that I went gas. It is my understanding that diesels do not do well sitting around or just being used for short trips in town. You run into regen issues. Can you guys do a video on this topic???
@@f5tornadeau how difficult is a regen delete? Seriously wanting diesel but after warranty expires would like to delete regen garbage. Does it require special programming, chips, etc..?
Had that exact problem with the diesel because short travel interrupted the regen process. This resulted in requiring valves cleaned every year and the cab vibrated.
Great video Andre! #10: A bit misleading. The 3500 is available with both the SO/68RFE and HO/AISIN diesel engines as well as the Hemi/8HP75-LCV. #8: Also a bit misleading. See my comment on #10. #3: CCLB trucks offer an optional 50 gallon fuel tank. #2: Aux Trailer is an option on any trim level, not included unless the XFQ sales code is used. 2022 changes options up a bit with the addition of a digital tow mode camera that displays in the rearview mirror as well as an available 360° trailer system that will automatically add the wiring for the cameras.
First video I've seen of yours, and must say, it was very refreshing. You talked about the specs and features that matter with a HD truck, and not how "pretty" it looks. We will be purchasing a HD 1-ton truck for traveling (pulling a 5th wheel) in the next 12 months, and want to make sure we find the right truck for our needs. Video's like this are extremely helpful.
With regards to whether someone should buy the Cummins or not, I also believe people need to be cognizant of whether their driving patterns will allow them to complete a regen cycle or not. If they are driving little, but their driving pattern allows for this, then that makes a difference. If their driving pattern does not allow for regen completion, they will be miserable, the truck will be miserable, and fuel economy will be horrific.
As you state, that is a big issue that people are not aware of the issues with modern emissions diesels. Most people simply remember how simple diesels used to be and the salesmen sure arn't going to bring up these inconveniences either.
The 6.4 hemi goes through the same 300,000 mile test the Cummins does. Just did a almost 3000 mile round trip with my 2019 hemi pulling a 9,000 travel trailer, it didn’t even break a sweat.
The 6.4 is a beast. with all the emissions and other junk they put on diesels nowadays as much as I like a good diesel truck I can't justify owning one if I don't absolutely need it due to costs and potential failure from the systems. The hemi is perfectly practical and hauls pretty good, especially with the 4.10 gears
@@marvnation924the 6.4 has horrible fuel mileage. I own a 6.0 vortec and a 6.7 cummins and my diesel blows my gasser out all day in fuel economy. The cummins is also way more reliable than the 6.4 hemi ever will be.
Just took delivery of the 3500 limited with the HO cummins..... the sticker broke my heart, but got a solid dealer discount and a monster of a truck. No regrets at all.
@@MattBell_USA Dropped a solid $6500 off of MSRP. A few things helped make it happen, had a trade they were going to be able to sell easy, it was a factory order, and we're in a VERY rural part of western NC...
You do realize that the 3500 also comes with the same motor and trans as the 2500. The HO motor is another option. You keep talking as if all 3500 models come with the HO motor which is not true.
Yup, love my 3500 SRW. Many options are available to help with ride quality....plus its a 3500, so you'd better be hauling something frequently instead of being a poser.
I have had 2 previous Cummins truck (2001 2500 & 2008 dually) I used to own Fords,,,Just got my 5th Gen 2019--LOVE IT! once you go Cummins you never go back!
Have you guys thought about running a series on HD truck suspension upgrades? I have a Power Wagon and it appears Carli and Thuren both specialize in systems for Ram and Carli also does them for Fords. I’ve done lots of research on both but it’s usually from each provider which will of course be biased on their setup. Other comments come from owners of one or the other which may also be biased. I really like the way you guys give a true test of trucks and have a non biased opinion. You just state the facts as you find them. Would be great to see this on upgraded suspensions!
How come no one on all these reviews on the new 2021 heavy duty ram cummins trucks ever mentions that they no longer use a CP4 pump? Highly important information!!
For some, that extra gvwr of a 3500 may be unnecessary. For example, depending on what trailer you have, a 2500 will keep you under the 26k mark. But with a 3500, you will need a CDL just to pull the same trailer.
@@wilberzelaya5322 First things first, find out what you're pulling and find out the specs of it. Example - Travel Trailer; Most are under 15k when loaded, but the payload of your truck determines if you can haul it or not. Hitch weight is really the killer for any payload. I think a good payload would be between 3 and 4k. You'll have enough to carry cargo in addition to people and supplies inside the truck. Unless you haul heavier items, you'll be wasting money. A Ram 2500 in the right configuration is a good choice and will be enough truck for most. Diesel or Gas.
I really wish they'd have changed the cab like the 1500 instead of keeping the same ancient cab of the previous Ram. Makes it look outdated compared to the competition. They just changed the lights and grill. Interior looks great though.
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$86,000! I got my new 2500 Tradesman for $46,000 out the door. If you are worried about the price of upgrading to a diesel, do like I did and get last years model. I got my 2018 in April 2019, during "Ram Truck Month", and in so doing I did not pay $9,400 more for the diesel because they discounted the diesel trucks more, so I only paid about $4,000 more to get the diesel. At that difference it would be stupid not to. I love the truck! And on a recent trip from Arizona to South Dakota and back, the worst fill up was 19mpg. Best was 21mpg. Average was a solid 20mpg.
@@jonaveul I know that. But the base model is still very well appointed, and comfortable, and more importantly, does everything the limited trim model does. I don't need heated leather seats and all that gingerbread. I still have all the power windows, door locks, Sirius XM, back up camera etc. And the standard seats are very comfortable. And leaves me with $40,000 to put toward an rv.
I bought a Laramie sport 3500 dually with the Aisin transmission for 78,000 last year and love the truck. Only getting 16mpg on the Hwy with the 4:10 gear ratio though.
Mentioned cost of diesel option. What you didn't mention was what the diesel model was worth vs the gas at trade in time. Diesels hold value better. If your using it anything near what a pickup is meant to be used for you always come out on top going with the diesel.
@@kirkdunn1379 I owned pickups and crewcabs for decades but they were work vehicles. Always operating close to max GVW. Kept log books so able to track fuel consumption. Calculation I provide here is yearly average and includes warm up times and idling for long periods of time during winter. Gas models averaged 30L/100K with the diesels 19L/100K. At first I did not believe the figures and thought a few fillings had to be missed but the figures continued over the next 3 years. Got rid of the last gas vehicle in 1999 so data is definitely out of date. If you were to compare figures for a highway trip in the summer diesels still turned in better figures but definitely not the difference shown over a year. I have never been concerned what a vehicle can do on a highway run under the best of conditions, what I am interested in what does it cost to run that vehicle for a year. In addition to the better fuel economy the crew appreciated the performance of the diesels. So yes at time of trade I did not get the full cost of the motor back but my overall operating cost was cheaper. And when you are in business that is one of your main concerns.
@@luckytrapper7656 see I’m not sure if I need an HD or not. The wife and I are going to be getting a trailer, probably sub 8k lbs, so I know I don’t need an HD/diesel but I heard it’s so much easier to tow with them. Advice?
@@addisonfarmer2515 I've towed 9k pounds with my gas ram 1500 and I've towed 14k with my dads gas tundra. A half ton is more than enough for your trailer.
@@addisonfarmer2515 I like both trucks. Definitely prefer my ram through. Rides better. Better interior. More power. Haven't had any issues with it so far. It's a 2018. 49k miles.
Just tilt seat back my husband is 6ft 5 and he tilts the seat back a bit no problem for head room .Misleading when you have the seat it its most upright position.
I'm about to go trade in my 18 2500 6.4. If you tow on a regular basis, it's got to be diesel. On paper people are convinced the 6.4 is capable, I'M TELLING YOU IT'S NOT! I've got a tree biz and just towing dump trailer and mini loader, I'm at 8000 pound and that's without any load added to that. I'm in Florida, so pretty flat roads, I'd imagine if there were hills that out would be way worse. Went from older dirty max to the 6.4. If you just want a big truck to give around the 6.4 is great. The hardest thing about needing a diesel is having to swallow the price of them these days.
I recommend hot shots daily fuel additive. The tolerances in the cp4 fuel pump makes sub-par fuel become more of an issue. Ideally do a cp3 swap. But using hot shots will mitigate cp4 issues. Just my opinion.
Andre, just in time. I am looking. Thanks The 850 pound truck is designed to meet or exceed the needs of the average owner while keeping the cost down. The 1000 pound configuration needs a lot more heavy duty components and costs more while being much less user friendly The 3500 rides very rough and unless you are regularly towing loads that exceed the 2500 that is not a great choice.
Man I wish ram would offer a bigger/more powerful gas option. The 6.4 is nice but I’d love to see a new 7.0+ maybe with a hybrid system to help with fuel economy
That is an outrageous price for that truck! I paid $71,250 US for an absolutely loaded 2022 RAM 3500 4x4 Limited Longhorn, wood in the dash and front doors, wood upper steering wheel bar, leaf spring with air bags, electric tailgate, 6.7L Cummins, and too much to list. I LOVE my RAM 3500!!
Got sick of fixing my ford which is why I bought one of these, but everyone's luck is different. I've owned GMC, Ford, and now Ram. And if this ram shits out on me i'll try chevy and keep rotating.
Ford = RAM(Dodge) = Chevy..... They're all the same crap just stepped on a different way lol. The differences are minimal when it comes to quality and performance really comes down to cosmetics, maybe exhaust sound which is entirely personal preference. I've owned them all had problems with all them had good experiences with all of them. I usually go with what company wants my business most which is really the dealer not the brand. Dealers hate unbiased non-fan boys even dealers that sell multiple brands.
@@sonsofliberty3081 The fact of the matter is the quality of the car in the long run is all based on who is driving it. Hence why every single manufacturer has a limit to their warranties cuz they can't predict what you're doing with your vehicle how hard you're pushing it or how incorrectly you're driving it, it's like back in the day like 60s and 70s all those rich people who would get a fast sports car but still drive it like their grandma but they constantly had issues with it mechanically because the vehicle was designed to be driven fast and chaotic, not long and slow, The gap between sport and everyday drivers has shrunk so that's no longer the case, but that's essentially what it comes down with any vehicle whether it's truck car or one brand vs they other. Yes it is true this year RAM has the reward for "best" truck, but those rewards are completely meaningless these days just cuz they won the award doesn't mean that they are light years better than the other brand. If you want to get down to the very specific nitty gritty details then yeah you could pull each brand apart And say this vehicle is better at this whereas this vehicle is better at this but those differences are insignificantly minimal. My argument isn't that one vehicle is absolutely factually better than the other My argument is those differences the things that make that one vehicle the best vehicle over the other are statistically irrelevant And when it comes to real-world use they don't matter.
Y’all are worried about payload... try running a pickup with a flatbed with a bale spike, cake feeder, with a bale of hay... your truck can handle more than you think
when people usually get a work truck they get it to work and get stuff done not for the highest package and screens technology and i like the 31 gal;on fuel tank
I have the ‘19 High Output (HO) 6.7 Cummins in the 3500 SRW. It shreds tires like crazy unloaded if I’m not careful. Pulling my equipment, man it shines. It seems to have more power when loaded down because the tires can hook up better.
The puck fifth wheel/goose neck system from the big three is garbage. You have to stow that crap somewhere else when you want a flat bed and the hole covers get lost right off the bat. Who wants to store a dirty greasy ball and safety chain connectors in the cab or bed? B&W Turn Over ball is the only way to fly. Full pull rating and nothing to store when you want a flat bed surface. I wish those cheap automakers would just pay a licensing fee to B&W and have something good from the factory without having the extra time and expense to have it installed.
So I watched this video on a Sunday morning normally I just watch them and not give it a second thought. Before a couple of weeks ago I could care less about the transmission, It's bad enough to have to learn about Duramax and Allison transmission but I really hate Andrea today for trying to learn about the ATS 68RFE to find out the cons of the transmission over the AW. I found one recall on the ATS but it's really hard to tell about the true reliability versus the truck owners that do the stupid stuff that the transmission was built for which to handle the maximum payload and or towing capacity.
Fuel economy is no reason to buy a diesel. If you tow a lot of heavy stuff, yes, by all means get one. I would. But It is hard make up for the price premium difference you pay for the diesel engine in improved fuel mileage. Driving 20,000 miles a year (not many people do), break even is about 10 years out. Of course one other important reason to get a diesel is that you think they sound cool and you simply want one.😁
Do like I did, and buy last years model. I got my 2018 in April of 2019, and they discount the more expensive diesel trucks more than the gas trucks, making the upgrade only a $4,000 difference. I got mine for $46,000 out the door with a 120,000 mile warranty. I just did a 2,200 mile trip and averaged 20mpg.
I don't know if heard about the recall on dodge ram trucks. according to Steve Lehto at Lehto law there's a recall for 3500, 4500, and 5500 series of dually trucks for front wheels falling off. the manufacturer instructions give a torque spec that's too much and can damage the wheel studs. the years include 2012 to 2021
i got a 2021 3500 srw truck is beautiful i think my only complaint is the harsh ride but it is 3500 but fule milage has been great im in washington and drive over moutains offten best on hyw 23.3 mpg at 72 mph but on hyw im ez 20mpg
I like how you get the most expensive trim and then say it's more expensive than all the other brands, and I'm 6'2" and my head is no where close to the ceiling like yours was
I've Ike'd my 2017 2500 Ram Cummins about 10 Times pulling a 12.000 Pound TT and the Problem I have is Slow Drivers will not stay out of the Left Lane LOL (:
I bought a 21 Tacoma off-road back in July. It’s not the truck for me. I don’t understand the appeal it’s decent off-road but not in the same playing field as my jeeps in the past. I’ll probably swap for a 2500 tradesman with a cummins when I find one available and not above msrp.
You can think the EPA/Federal government for the lack of horsepower & torque. Our grandson has a ‘99 Dodge 3500 with a stock 5.9L Cummins standard shift that will out pull & run circles around that 2021 6.7L Cummins. He’s rebuilding a ‘99 2500 with a 5.9L Cummins that the previous owner abused. Y’all have a good one
I just bought this 2021 limited 2500 diesel. I love it. The technology is amazing compared to Ford and Chevy. The only thing I didn’t like was the wireless charger is awkward. Chevy Denali was best wireless charger. I’m still getting used to it. But lots of things to be happy with it.
Thinking about trading a 18 tundra for one I love it but need haul little more weight. Mine will do 8000 easy but not much more. Whats average price for these best I found was 65k so far.
That’s not the reason for having a lower payload. It’s the weight of the Diesel engine that’s substantially heavier than the Hemi AND the trim level of the limited model. Having all the bells and whistles takes away from payload. My 2020 2500 6.4 Hemi has a payload of 3,200lbs. If your going with a Cummins then your best bet would be to jump into a 3500.
I sold my Ram 2500 Cummins Because of the scary low payload I yard of gravel and you are over the Limit But the cost of these new diesels plus the emissions has me thinking about fords godzilla
Still don’t understand what the 2500 Cummins was built to serve beyond endless highway cruising. RAM made many updates in 2019, and some again in 2021. But still hasn’t fixed the Jumbo Shrimp payload vs Cummins tow rating. It’s a slightly better bumper pull truck, I guess.
I had a 2017 ram 2500 Laramie 4x4, good looking truck. I paid 54k brand new. 2 years later I gave it away, couldn't get more than 35k for it with only 17k miles. Sticker was 69k. Worse resale of any vehicle I've owned. I had about 6 recalls, and the abs module failed on a trip to North Carolina, couldn't use cruise control. Stereo constantly froze. I'm sure I just had a bad experience, but the resale is what killed me. No Ram trucks for me!
@@hg2blackcat411 I will say the used market today is insane due to truck shortage. I had a buddy trade his 15' F150 with 119k miles and they gave him 41k. It was only a lariat trim crew cab. Just insane honsetly
That payload is pretty sad for 3/4;ton If your towing heavy enough to require a diesel motor a 3500 is only smart option......increased ability with minimal cost difference and ride quality is same..... 2500 is hybrid for contractors and weekend warriors....gas works for payload and 10k trailers.....if you need a diesel your towing serious weight or steep grades just get a 3500..... 2020 LT 2500 loaded and was 3600lbs, my 2021 GMC 1500 elevation is 1900 lbs Payload
Nice truck overall. They need an 8 speed on their HD models , they need to get the half ton interior and they need a traditional 6”6 bed for their HD trucks
Truly not being critical, but I’m curious about the part where he was saying if you aren’t towing much we’re going far you should get the gas engine in the 3500. Is there a situation where a gas engine 3500 is legitimately the better option, as opposed to just getting a regular 1500 or 2500?
What happens to the truck if you go 1 lb over what the sticker says ? jk, ( kind of.) If anyone around central / southern California went by that magical number, we'd all starve cause nothing would EVER get done on the farm. I'm guessing same way in the midwest. Use common sense when loading, or towing with your truck. It's obvious if it can or can't safely do it. Awesome video as always !
That’s crazy how the price between a 6.4 gasand a 6.7 diesel is that much.shoot in 2015 when I bought my diesel that 9400 was the price difference between the 5.7 and 6.7 the 6.4 hemi was halfway
