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I received some more unusual European slugs from a viewer named Emiliano in Italy. These are German slugs that weigh 36g. (1 oz. is 28g) The design is over 100 years old, and is a design few people would pursue because it seems to goes against the laws of aerodynamics and the understandings of supersonic principles. Most slugs are very nose-heavy, and have a light tail to create stabilization and they usually have a round nose for a streamlined profile. Stendebach threw all that out the window and created one of the oddest slugs we have shot. The design was so successful, it was worth stealing, I mean "invented" by a Russian 60 years later.
Don't believe the Stendebach Ideal slugs were from the early 1900's? here is a patent for other slugs Stendebach came up with. Note the date.
www.google.ch/patents/US730308
The problems we had with the slugs were the result of just not knowing the correct load data with these. The site that sells them provides little information, and there is ONLY one place that seems to sell these slugs. However, we finally got the slugs working after a few weeks from trial and error. The Russian Mayer Bullets were not finicky at all, as we shot them with different types of shells, low and high brass, etc with very good results each time.
The shooting stand Darren was using is called the CTK P3 Ultimate shooting rest.
www.ctkprecision.com/p3-ultima...
You can also find it at Midway USA.

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@1976pmiller
@1976pmiller 8 лет назад
Nothing wrong with these slugs. They were designed for hunting after spending hours in the beer gardens. Aim wobbly , it hits the target just fine. Lager compensated aiming design. Genius
@spinalkid
@spinalkid 8 лет назад
LOL u r GENIUS
@Thelothuo
@Thelothuo 8 лет назад
+paul miller It also prechews whatever you hit with it. That slug quite literally bit the vest and took a chunk out of it.
@benmasta5814
@benmasta5814 8 лет назад
hahaha nice
@lutascheier
@lutascheier 6 лет назад
paul miller No. In German Bier and Schnapps is "aming water" so you drink it to aim better, which if course is a misconception, so you're probably right.
@Sokar12345
@Sokar12345 8 лет назад
german ammo is designed to be shot east or west. so by shooting north you probably got some interference with the earth magnetic field which caused them to try and correct to the proper direction.
@moiramay1942
@moiramay1942 8 лет назад
omg did you really just
@Prideace93
@Prideace93 8 лет назад
i think east and west only effected the borealis or something effect. meaning the distance of the projectile
@psychopyro5781
@psychopyro5781 8 лет назад
Lol I like it
@JohnSmith-ir5yu
@JohnSmith-ir5yu 8 лет назад
i'm german and i can confirm this
@vakusdrake3224
@vakusdrake3224 8 лет назад
Yeah those effects only apply in the north and south hemispheres, that's why he should have shot from the east or west hemispheres.
@jaxkson1
@jaxkson1 8 лет назад
Return to Castle Wolfenstein music, nice. Anyone else notice that too?
@CheezyDee
@CheezyDee 8 лет назад
Mein Gott! Teufelvolk!
@TheRoboJesus
@TheRoboJesus 8 лет назад
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who picked up on that, haha!
@hanfpeter3742
@hanfpeter3742 8 лет назад
+Cheezy Dee its Teufelsvolk...XD
@cesarmaltez
@cesarmaltez 8 лет назад
Feeling nostalgic
@SnowlandX
@SnowlandX 8 лет назад
Other vid had it too. I like it.
@mrclucker1969
@mrclucker1969 8 лет назад
The RTCW music is very atmospheric - nice choice for these unusual German/Russian rounds. (Plus it takes me back to sneaking around avoiding the guards in the game)
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 8 лет назад
Such a fun game. The Snooper rifles... the FG42, so much fun.
@miky1200
@miky1200 8 лет назад
I knew I could not be the only one that noticed that! But yea, brings back some good gaming memories :)
@kes7774
@kes7774 8 месяцев назад
Stendbach's slug bullet🇩🇪 was manufactured under the name "Ideal Bullet" in Japan🇯🇵 by Kawaguchi-ya Hayashi Gunpowder Shop (K.F.C.). From the Taisho era to the 1970s, K.F.C. mainly sold ideal bullets for Murata-style shotguns. Around the 1964 Tokyo Olympics, K.F.C. began selling "Puma rockets", which are very similar to modern Foster-type rifled slug bullets, so with the transition to paper shotshells using smokeless powder, the Ideal bullets were no longer used. This slug bullet was well known to hunters of my grandfather's generation, but I think most Japanese hunters today have never even seen it. Thank you for releasing this valuable verification video. As a side note, there is detailed information about K.F.C.'s Puma rocket in the U.S. patent "US4043267A," and it was ultimately envisioned that it would use plastic wads called "tail wads." This was very similar in concept to the modern mainstream Plumbata Slug, but I've never seen it in real life.
@-HustleUnion-
@-HustleUnion- 8 лет назад
AvE's channel is awesome lots of information packed in all his videos
@x9x9x9x9x9
@x9x9x9x9x9 8 лет назад
Jeff I don't think I have ever complimented you on your hard work and surprisingly good high speed footage for the gear you have. Seriously man your work is amazing for not having a phantom. Hell your footage is better than some phantom footage I have seen.
@JesseAndMike
@JesseAndMike 8 лет назад
Haha, those are some unusual slugs! LOL! Another awesome video!! Liked! :)
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 8 лет назад
thank you Jesse and Mike!!
@GettinJunkDone
@GettinJunkDone 8 лет назад
Every time I come to your channel I learn something. Very cool!
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 8 лет назад
thanks Joe!
@LunchBXcrue
@LunchBXcrue 8 лет назад
Man that shot to the giant gummy bear was awesome the way it showed how much the area around expanded.
@zv4822
@zv4822 2 года назад
On February 3, 2016, Alexander Karlovich Mayer died at the age of 90. RIP He was ethnically German, but was born in the USSR, in the city of Tbilisi, now Georgia. The Mayer slugs is a lead caliber slugs - quite accurate, not the simplest, but available for self-casting. And the accuracy is largely due to these ribs in the back of the slugs, but not because they give it rotation. In fact, the inventor of the slugs was not even a gunsmith, he made it for his own needs, working in the workshop at the observatory. It was planned that the heavier head part of the slugs would stabilize it in flight, like any arrow-type slugs, but the main difference was to be a "double turbine". After all, the inclined ribs, which, according to the author's plan, were supposed to twist the slugs in the air, are not only on the outside of the shank, but also in the central hole that goes through the entire slugs, through and through. Therefore, the Mayer slugs can be attributed to both arrow-type and turbine-type slugs. Slugs, indeed, turned out to be successful and quite accurate. Although there was no significant stabilization from its two turbines. I think Meyer had knowledge of the German bullet, and just upgraded it, making it a double turbine.
@whatsnext8548
@whatsnext8548 8 лет назад
These historical stuff are just so satisfying to watch, great video!
@VolV8
@VolV8 8 лет назад
I like how fine the threading is on the choke device. Thanks for the clip :)
@otakuribo
@otakuribo 8 лет назад
I've always enjoyed your videos, but you've really stepped up your production game lately. 😀👍
@billburns9260
@billburns9260 8 лет назад
Damn! Thanks Jeff! I Definitely Loved Watching This Absolutely Badass "Bass Ackwards" Slug!.. Great Video in Every Aspect! Thanks! & Have a Great Evening!.
@johndessoye
@johndessoye 8 лет назад
best channel on youtube. love watching your videos!
@Washman-jw3hl
@Washman-jw3hl 8 лет назад
nice research work. I love these foreign slug videos you guys are putting up. keep up the great work and thank you for sharing
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 8 лет назад
Thanks! I'm hoping to find some from other European countries.
@wreck_ignition7847
@wreck_ignition7847 8 лет назад
+Taofledermaus. Another rad video Jeff. I'm loving these projectiles from *a round the world*!
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 8 лет назад
Thanks! Hopefully we'll get some other examples from other countries.
@yveskc1
@yveskc1 8 лет назад
Fascinating.. Flying pattern is mind boggling. Nice design! Thanks for sharing.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 8 лет назад
thanks!
@antoniotorlentino5949
@antoniotorlentino5949 8 лет назад
Love your videos man! Keep up the good work
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 8 лет назад
thank you Antonio!
@bvsteel
@bvsteel 7 лет назад
loled at the ballistic bears, love all your videos! Education and entertainment!
@tbmusic927
@tbmusic927 8 лет назад
Very interesting slug! Might have to buy some of these someday soon. (Also loved the Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory soundtrack as well!)
@72151
@72151 Год назад
I really like how you guys do these experiments. I realize this is a while ago, but still good 👍
@Warrior2200
@Warrior2200 8 лет назад
Man, I love this channel.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 8 лет назад
thanks!
@alexking7682
@alexking7682 8 лет назад
Fantastic, as usual. Keep it up guys!
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 8 лет назад
thanke Alex!
@alexking7682
@alexking7682 8 лет назад
+TAOFLEDERMAUS Never a problem, always a pleasure.
@SurvivalRussia
@SurvivalRussia 8 лет назад
Great video and info. Interesting to note that the cut shell seems to be Swedish and from Bofors but "Sweden" is spelled "Svezia", which is the Russian way of pronouncing Sweden. Also Mayer is of course a German surname. I like the longer format videos but i understand why you do not make too many of them :)
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 8 лет назад
I really wanted to show both the problems I had with these, and show them functioning. I never had that was more finicky. The Mayer bullets did not care how I loaded them, they just worked. I'm still amazed by those.
@weirdsciencethe2nd205
@weirdsciencethe2nd205 3 года назад
The sweeds make awsome artillery and big guns there modern stuffs sci fi
@zv4822
@zv4822 2 года назад
@@taofledermaus The Mayer slugs is a lead caliber slugs - quite accurate, not the simplest, but available for self-casting. And the accuracy is largely due to these ribs in the back of the slugs, but not because they give it rotation. In fact, the inventor of the slugs was not even a gunsmith, he made it for his own needs, working in the workshop at the observatory. It was planned that the heavier head part of the slugs would stabilize it in flight, like any arrow-type slugs, but the main difference was to be a "double turbine". After all, the inclined ribs, which, according to the author's plan, were supposed to twist the slugs in the air, are not only on the outside of the shank, but also in the central hole that goes through the entire slugs, through and through. Therefore, the Mayer slugs can be attributed to both arrow-type and turbine-type slugs. Slugs, indeed, turned out to be successful and quite accurate. Although there was no significant stabilization from its two turbines. I think Meyer had knowledge of the German slugs, and just upgraded it, making it a double turbine.
@Black_noir_mw3
@Black_noir_mw3 3 года назад
I could watch yall smoke them target's for an eternity, it's always interesting
@rippertrain
@rippertrain 8 лет назад
awesome explanation i love the commentary
@timothyhayes9724
@timothyhayes9724 8 лет назад
I'm reminded of a Rifleman magazine article about this kind of thing. A lot of people have tried the hollow bullet concept before including the US Army and they found that at supersonic speeds, holes that small might as well be closed. The air can't compress and go through like a ramjet because the cross section is to small.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 8 лет назад
Yep! exactly!
@mattv2099
@mattv2099 8 лет назад
wow. great vid. full of info. cool old russian slugazine
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 8 лет назад
This was a pain in the butt. I've been working on this video for about 3 weeks.
@mattv2099
@mattv2099 8 лет назад
***** wow. that's too much time!
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 8 лет назад
Yeah, the Russian slugs were a piece of cake, they just worked. I didn't want to show these slugs NOT working when I knew they would work once I figured out the right setup
@clouster75
@clouster75 6 лет назад
Calling it "stolen" - is very serious claim here tbh. These are definitely different slugs. It would be "stolen" if it would be 1 to 1 copy. Same way somebody can claim that you stolen idea of channel with slo-mo ballistic footages from some random guy on youtube.
@tblbaby
@tblbaby 8 лет назад
Great stuff! Love the testing of results out of these things. Spin stabilization is specific to the spin vs the projectile, as in a longer conical projectile requires faster spin to stabilize. Too fast and it fraps out and becomes unstable. Too slow and it wobbles. Spin stabilization is always important. Distance tells it. Riflings in a barrel are a means of spin, so are riflings in a slug. Riflings in barrels helped even round balls accuracy dramatically. The first rifles without riflings were not very accurate. If you're an inch off at 10 yards you'll be 10 inches off at 100 yards IF it continues on stable trajectory. BUT a bullet not spinning will amplify it's error over distance as instability adds instability and the added instability adds more, and deviation multiplies. Round balls out of smooth bore muskets were good for a few yards, accurate enough to do a job, but at distance they went to hell.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 8 лет назад
I think if these slugs didn't have the 2 external vanes, they'd probably work better with rifling. But the vanes just end up acting like paddles and try to propel the slug a little- seemingly to the side instead of straight forward.
@tblbaby
@tblbaby 8 лет назад
***** Yeah, rifling is made to grab a consistent surface and spin the bullet. Rifled slugs grab a smooth barrel and impart spin to the bullet. If you have conflicting forces working it's bound to be a mess.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 8 лет назад
Yes!
@tblbaby
@tblbaby 8 лет назад
***** Yes!
@rohanrohanrohan8915
@rohanrohanrohan8915 8 лет назад
Cool vid
@RAkers-tu1ey
@RAkers-tu1ey 8 лет назад
My dear TFM, I freely acknowledge that you have become the ultimate GURU of odd shotgun rounds. And, I LOVE these Videos! that said, You are also really good at telling a story with your high speed camera. I would love to see what you can do with various projectiles in a slingshot. I have been tinkering with these for years, and they are a lot of fun. But, they are very difficult to shoot accurately. I believe this may have to do with pocket / release issues drastically changing the point of impact. I am envisioning some sort of anchored sling shot, using an archery type release, and lots of different projectiles... marbles, steel shot, lead shot, rocks, etc. let me know if you are interested in this.
@eisenfell
@eisenfell 8 лет назад
As a german I have to say: I absolutely love how you speak Stendebach. :D
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 8 лет назад
haha, thanks
@cbremer83
@cbremer83 8 лет назад
AvE is bad ass. He is just fun to listen to. lol It's just a bonus that his vids are interesting as well.
@akaMyThought
@akaMyThought 8 лет назад
great video! !! enjoyed
@lonewanderer3603
@lonewanderer3603 8 лет назад
if it looks backwards, maybe you should try to load and fire one backwards.
@bleepinjeep
@bleepinjeep 8 лет назад
Is it not possible to put the high speed camera 10 to 20 ft in front of the shotgun? Seems like that would solve a lot of your smoke problems and give a better quality shot.
@waytoocommon9198
@waytoocommon9198 7 лет назад
FYI, the Benelli Nova has a 2 bead sight. The small bead half way along the barrel is the "rear sight". I also own a Nova and aiming is gloriously easy at short ranges (never had a chance to make any longer shots). It's a glorious inexpensive shotgun.
@gigabytegallery7305
@gigabytegallery7305 Год назад
That shot at 0:04 seconds sounds much like a sci-fi blast XD it's pretty rad "PsssSSShuuuung~~!"
@oranjid
@oranjid 8 лет назад
thank you tao for also showing the old german advertising from the slugs. I love those old ads for gun related products. It gives very detailed information, even on the price and where you could order these 115 yaers ago in germany :-D I will give you american guys some translation of the old text (not the whole thing, just interesting parts:) "For 25 pieces 6 Reichsmark (the currency in germany used the time of the german empire) in Caliber 12 and 5,56 Reichsmark for caliber 16 and 20) of coure free house delivery is possible within the german empire" so the text claims ^^ If not available at "your local specialist"...and so on. Also it gives information on survey results from the manufacturer (so these are his own claims) on how accurate it is on specific distances and that this is 100% better than average available ammunition he compares it to. And he also gives some feedback from one of the persons using the slug on deer "best results on ranges below 60m, with a blackpowder load of 5.5 to 5.75 (metric) grams , compared to any other ammunition in smoothbore rifles." So basically a pure advertising text praising how good his ammunition is. So maybe interesting that it was designed for black powder and not smokeless, so it would most likely not reach the same speeds. That packaging could be museum worthy ^^ propably very rare
@richardpeterson3753
@richardpeterson3753 7 лет назад
trips me out every time with the gel. naked eye you can't really see that massive expansion but in slow mo it looks ridiculous. pretty neat stuff
@wixte
@wixte 8 лет назад
This is the reason why I love German guns/Weaponry.. They make stuff before anyone gets to it. Aside from the Semi automatic pistol.. which was... Belgium? Austrian?
@hanfpeter3742
@hanfpeter3742 8 лет назад
the first true automatic- pistol was invented by hugo borchardt in the USA. And he was a german, so...
@tblbaby
@tblbaby 8 лет назад
They almost had the nuclear bomb first, we stole it from them. Imagine life or the lack there of if we hadn't gotten to it before they perfected the tech for the bomb and delivery. Now imagine we just gave that shit to the Iranians DEATH TO THE WORLD! Thanks Obama, thank you Hillary, thank you George Soros O_O we gave 700 AD assholes nukes, and the tech to use them. Live the next few years well!
@paranoiia8
@paranoiia8 8 лет назад
Borchardt C-93 was first mass produced automatic pistol, and it was made in Germany. And yes, if you look closer to inventions that was made in USA, you gonna find that more than half of them where made by people who where born in Europe, study there, and then because of different reason they moved to USA. Also because America used different patent system, they really liked to call something FIRST... even if it was used for long time, but was just not patented. For example, latest Apple idea of patenting... trees and table that they patented in Asia. www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2016/07/apple-wins-a-design-patent-for-the-apple-stores-grove.html Americans really like to make really stupid patents and call it first, even if it was used before.
@tblbaby
@tblbaby 8 лет назад
Akinaro The French invented smokeless powder and launched a new era of fire arms efficiency. You've been taught a lot of hate USA propaganda. The super wealthy in the world hate the individual empowerment the US had up until recently, and push propaganda through the UN and educational systems because the Constitution and system in the USA for so many years created a majorly dominant extremely wealthy productive inventive culture. They also push hate of Western Culture in general and white people, especially men. Haven't you noticed? Vilification of white males? BUTT I digress. The situation in the USA has inspired extreme inventiveness because of it's system and diversity. Formal Education doesn't help much towards fresh invention, though it does inspire innovation of existing invention. Practical applications and a lack of being indoctrinated does inspire ground breaking invention. Much of the great innovation in the US came from people with an 8th grade or lower education. People who do the same job every day. People who go to institutions which teach the same shit, especially government directed shit lose parts of their brain function. There was a study in Japan using MRI where people who live in a city and go to work to the same job every day actually experience shrinkage in certain areas of the brain. Conversely diverse experiences, problems in need of solution and a wide range of needed activity create an awareness you can't get without it. For example, students who study music along with academics do markedly better on academics. This is because it opens up a basis of understanding in more diverse areas making learning much easier because of the points of perspective being fortified with real practical understanding. As civilization develops things get more set for people. Groups are more specialized. Cognition decreases in wide range and focuses on the more narrow requirements. Conversely people in cities develop heightened linguistic skill because their life's success is directly dependent on dealing with people almost entirely in many people's circumstances. They become more apt to heavily focus on their facade, others perception, than what they really are. They become dishonest because in that environment perception is what matters. The perception of others is their world and it's how they get what they need. Again, the US has been a boon for the world in areas of invention in many areas. No need for the poisonous scorn which has been taught by media and institutions. That plays right into the hands of people who are not your friends. Who'd most like to see you as close as they can to a feckless stupid animal.
@paranoiia8
@paranoiia8 8 лет назад
hahahahha... oh men, you made my day... I was seriously just making fun of latest Apple patent, because I read about it few minutes before watching that video... and you give me monologue about... what exactly? Because I have no idea... But to be honest USA is not special at all, its the same deep shit hole as any other country so any annoying propaganda monologue that would say that "its better" or "it give possibilities" is just a empty talking that should be put in trash. And no mater what we invent here in Europe or there in USA, Asians gonna make it more and better xD
@magnus5356
@magnus5356 7 лет назад
Just a note, the cut a part of what you reference to as 'German' are clearly marked 'Bofors' and 'Svezia'. Bofors is a Swedish company...
@pinjohnston3706
@pinjohnston3706 8 лет назад
Return to castle Wolfenstein music!!!! Nice!!
@Anvilshock
@Anvilshock 8 лет назад
Knew I remembered it from somewhere!
@boyke2412
@boyke2412 8 лет назад
it was in the back of my mind
@bspinnacle4669
@bspinnacle4669 8 лет назад
I would love these guys to one day get one of those phantom slow motion cameras! I think it would be cool to see the rotation of the bullets at an even slower speed and stuff
@ATSucks1
@ATSucks1 8 лет назад
So far this seems like best slug. I was watching your Russian hallow slugs and they seemed nice and then I saw this.... Previously I thought the pellet rifle style slugs were best slugs...I mean they are accurate and powerful... but this internal stuff.... especially this particular one... just wow... this may be best slug for power and accuracy.
@kitaryakysubae3156
@kitaryakysubae3156 8 лет назад
Long barrel with tight and polished bore do wonders for shotgun range and accuracy, especially with slugs. Less friction in the barrel and longer time in barrel to let the gas pressure get the round to peak velicity. Long barrel shotguns with polished bore, and hopefully a properly hardened reciever and barrel.
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 8 лет назад
could be!
@MistaCheezySTEAM
@MistaCheezySTEAM 8 лет назад
Sick vid dude
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 8 лет назад
thanks!
@andie_pants
@andie_pants 5 лет назад
As a professor of mine once said: The entirety of art history can be summed up with the simple phrase "Borrow, tweak, and make it your own."
@eagleeyedpsycho
@eagleeyedpsycho 8 лет назад
awesome video as always, well done. how are the shirts doing :)
@DavidLopez-pw7gp
@DavidLopez-pw7gp 8 лет назад
I am wondering if you put them in the shells backwards and made the front (back) rounded would it fly better because of the drop in weight and the cavity in the center is slowing the slugs down because it is compressing the air if you turn it around it alows the air to expand therareticly
@Ziggylata
@Ziggylata 8 лет назад
Good job
@85krink
@85krink 8 лет назад
Your buddy in the second half sounds like Steve-O from Jackass.great vid as well.
@zevr7995
@zevr7995 7 лет назад
Hey, is the B.C. on these ultra-low, because they're not displacing much air? Then they could be ultra-light like Lehigh Defence all-metal bullets for RIFLED barrels, to penetrate kevlar (or AR 500 if a 3D printer can print in titanium/carbide/harder materials at home)? Like a little crotch-rocket doesn't have as much Frontal Area as a Mack truck, thus retains WAY more velocity after you lift off the gas pedal? So a 7.62x39 would get 6.5Grendel type of energy-retention... in an approx 80-grain 7.62x39 going >3000fps, then it flattens (or stays rigid if Titanium, etc, for armor piercing) for the TERMINAL ballistics.
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf 8 лет назад
The first thing says that the Company was founded in 1902, the later shows a variety of slugs with their price and a short description of how they performed when tested at a distance of 75 steps (pace - normaly about 75 cm per step) so roughly 60 yards. And well as germany (and well Europe) was at war nearly constantly, yeah, they tried quite a lot of different things. V3 canon, Heavy Gustaf and other things.
@dangerousfreedom4965
@dangerousfreedom4965 4 года назад
What type of Roll beaded is that and what did you wipe on the shotgun hull with the Q-tip before rolling it?
@iainclark8695
@iainclark8695 8 лет назад
That's the second time I've seen that bird in the background. I think she deserves a credit guys. Don't wanna be like the daily mail now do we?
@dragonbutt
@dragonbutt 8 лет назад
Also, again, these things are fantastic wadcutters. I'd love to have some just for shooting paper!
@DIMZEROCENT
@DIMZEROCENT 6 лет назад
Very interesting comments by Jeff ... fasten your seatbelt Mr Spielberg !
@itohjoe
@itohjoe 4 года назад
The metal fin taper at the bottom of the shot is creating a vacuum holding the plastic wadd to the back.
@jojo_87_xy
@jojo_87_xy 5 лет назад
That was a slug idea that also came into my mind, awesome this is already made and I can watch it now! Funny how people come up with same ideas. Like with primitive tools all over the world. By the side - I'm German as well - so made have to do living in Germany and breathing German air 😀👍🏼
@KennyMinigun
@KennyMinigun 8 лет назад
Can you put a hole into the supporting card? Just to see if the internal channel actually influences the bullet physics?
@oranjid
@oranjid 8 лет назад
would love to see if there is any difference using the original black powder load and see if the ballistics turn out to be any better..with a slower slug. The old sheet shows that it was designed for a blackpowder load. Wonder if that does any change t.... Could less speed do a difference about the tumbling?
@martinedelius
@martinedelius 8 лет назад
Is there any way to shoot these slugs without the shot card? Perhaps they do use the internal cavity after all, even though the shot card is sticking to the slug.
@hop3881
@hop3881 3 года назад
4:40- bird in the background be like "im out im out im out IM OUT!"
@stevensonDonnie
@stevensonDonnie 7 лет назад
Music from Return to Castle Wolfenstien?
@philipmastroeni6789
@philipmastroeni6789 Год назад
I learned alot watch u science guys thank you much
@fungoidfest100
@fungoidfest100 7 лет назад
You might try a lead ball. I used to use .58 cal. lead balls wrapped with a couple of patches in a 16 ga. They shot well, and very fast, out of Federal 'high-brass' hunting loads.
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 8 лет назад
When watching these different slugs, I always ask, is it as good as a Foster slug? I mean, Foster slugs are very consistent and generally fly straight without a lot of load sensitivity.
@onpsxmember
@onpsxmember 4 года назад
It's really cool to read that old german advertisement. Just an hour drive from my home. If you ever have some old german information that could help you figure things out, I can translate it if need be. The first Stendebach text says his bullet made one revolution every 8 meters by itself and at 60 meters distance he had a groups of 13cm. I wonder if it flies totally straight with rifling if the center is drilled out to all the same inner diameter, and then trying different twist rates. I have no clue about supersonic fluid-dynamics, but holding the little plate in the back by suction sounds like the venturi-effect is working by the diameter difference on the inside. I wonder what the pressure distribution looks like.
@ROTTK9
@ROTTK9 8 лет назад
have you shot them with just the short wadding ( minus the card ) to check if there is a difference in performance?
@Bindahaha
@Bindahaha 8 лет назад
Great to know if there are notes on this design, if not the actual testing notes, just notes about what tests were planned or completed. Unlikely but would be nice if they existed to see what the thinking was.
@stevenjennings8347
@stevenjennings8347 3 года назад
Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls God Bless Ya 🙏
@forced23
@forced23 8 лет назад
What is that I see at 4:34 flying through the air in the lower part of the screen before the slug comes into view?
@polynikes5631
@polynikes5631 6 лет назад
Why is Officer Greg shooting shit and making corny jokes the best thing ever?
@Monkeyb00y
@Monkeyb00y 8 лет назад
for the smoke issue, have you tried to use a focused fan a high speed to attempt to keep the smoke out of the shot? just on the gun and shooter, not the end of the barrel.
@EcoMouseChannel
@EcoMouseChannel 8 лет назад
If I wanted to exclusively shoot slugs from my shot gun, which are the best ones you'd recommend that you've tested so far?
@figueir2
@figueir2 8 лет назад
hey whats the music? sounds really familiar but dont know where exactly
@TheKylerobert
@TheKylerobert 7 лет назад
What would happen if you cut holes in the center of those nitrocards? (Not sure if I spelt that right) basically creating a washer instead. Would that have any effect on anything?
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 7 лет назад
It would be sucked to it if it were made out of swiss cheese.
@dhoffnun
@dhoffnun 8 лет назад
Skookum as frig.
@MisterCheemf
@MisterCheemf 8 лет назад
she sure chooches excellently
@mandrac2
@mandrac2 8 лет назад
It's chooching at least.
@AlphasysNl
@AlphasysNl 8 лет назад
The slugs of this basic design principle, seem to get some powerful jaws on impact. The large cavity seems to create a low pressure region inside and the front of the bullet collapses into it on impact, nipping a piece of the impacted material clean off, encasing it inside.
@thepyroraptor2793
@thepyroraptor2793 8 лет назад
very nice video
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 8 лет назад
thanks!
@szcl
@szcl 8 лет назад
5:15 - 5:20 u got my like now ^^
@Prideace93
@Prideace93 8 лет назад
sir, i think you nrrd to try use a full rifled barrel instead of rifled choke tube. this may due to its change of movement from smooth to spinning. meaning its better if it has a single movement instead of two (from beginning movement the projectile must flow either straight barrel or spinning. cannot be both). pls try it. plus if you want better wadding, i believe matt from demolition ranch once use a wooden wadding. it turns to perform better i think
@jray789
@jray789 8 лет назад
I have some tungsten electrodes out of a xenon short arc lamp. Would you be able to make something happen with them?
@pco1984
@pco1984 8 лет назад
Is the vacuum acting like the fletching of an arrow? Also, what music is that in the video? I know it from something but can't quite place where....
@Ejeffers-eh2om
@Ejeffers-eh2om 8 лет назад
Return to castle wolfenstein for the ps2
@GreatBigRanz
@GreatBigRanz 8 лет назад
I noticed that the with the rifled choke the slugs looked deformed, although that may be an optical illusion. What about jacketed slugs out of a a rifled barrel?
@danbywater6333
@danbywater6333 8 лет назад
I think it's awesome them slugs are so old. I wonder if they tested them back then like you are today
@cameronm896
@cameronm896 7 лет назад
Can you find a way to shoot it without the stock wadding but without the nitro cards such that it would alow airflow through the slug?
@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 7 лет назад
There will never be air flow through a slug like this because there is a shock wave in front of the slug. The huge hole is there to act like a hollow point.
@agentham
@agentham 8 лет назад
9:26 Where do I know that music from?? It sounds so familiar yet I can't [;ace it.
@agentham
@agentham 4 года назад
Aaah, Wolfenstein Enemy Territory.
@SuperRiki81
@SuperRiki81 8 лет назад
I'm wondering: How long would a shotgun barrel have to be, to make the slug not be able to reach the end on a standard load?
@gamerx112
@gamerx112 4 года назад
so is there no airflow whatsoever going through the centre cavity? wouldnt that make the cavity redundant?
@pywaos
@pywaos 8 лет назад
a idear i got. maby if you put strings on the nitrocard. the drag after getting fired will force it off the projektile
@latemanparodius5133
@latemanparodius5133 8 лет назад
That last shot looked like it had some of the vest stuck inside it when you looked at the back, like it had just taken a circular bite out of it as the lead deformed.
@Mike_858
@Mike_858 8 лет назад
+1 for using music from ''Return To Castle Wolfenstein''. :D
@Dracologist
@Dracologist 8 лет назад
can sonic speed projectiles can be stabilised by tassel threads?
@savannahwarwillow
@savannahwarwillow 8 лет назад
I see your using the menu music from return to castle wolfenstien
@andyp5899
@andyp5899 Год назад
I did wonder if you had cut a groove across the wadding that might have cured the sticking wadding.
@tarstakars
@tarstakars 4 года назад
You know I don't know if you're going to read this because this videos pretty old but Lars at survival Russia had a video of him loading some antique Russian 12 gauge shells and they were still using the same kind of fibrous Excelsior type of material underneath the shot card and he was getting some pretty good results from a double barrel shotgun
@asskicker6557
@asskicker6557 8 лет назад
very interesting,that they thought of that way back when.
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