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Watch composer Ramesh Vinayakam open up about his new notation system for Indian Music, his friendship with A.R. Rahman, his journey as a musician and more
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@padgoogle
@padgoogle Месяц назад
Ramesh Vinayakam has been telling about the Box Notation for many years. He has not hidden about that like how BR is asking. This interview is absolutely stunning.
@shaktikumar8429
@shaktikumar8429 Месяц назад
Wow, this was out of the blue. One of my favourite music directors, highly underrated one
@ArunTV
@ArunTV Месяц назад
1. Ramesh Vinayagam sir is a Saint that received wisdoms to give out Music to all the humans in this planet earth and other universe living beings. I bless and appreciate his work, the Gamaka Box work will alive even after 1000years. 2. I don't like small neighbourhood stories gossips around me but I like big time valuable stories which are craft in the medium of cinema. Composing music for stories, situations and characters in the film is an interesting and joyful work. It's a pleasure to receive high value income, awards, public response and love. May Ramesh Vinayagam sir earns abundance of prosperities to materialise his wisdoms. S.A.Arun from Malaysia 🇲🇾 Music Composer/ Businessman/ Spiritualist/Humanitarian.
@Uyou-op7ec
@Uyou-op7ec Месяц назад
It's Great that You have said the truth.I was about to say the same.I fully subscribe what You have said just now.
@mohanaarumugam9793
@mohanaarumugam9793 Месяц назад
After illayaraja, Ramesh vinayagam is also a music genius..
@prabhabalachandar9583
@prabhabalachandar9583 Месяц назад
Mind blowing invention. Would love to know more about Gamaka box. As you said sir, “You never die”You will live through Gamaka Box forever. Prayers and best wishes to reach heights
@Ramkeev
@Ramkeev Месяц назад
I never thought BR is this knowledgeable in Music too. The entry point of understanding this video is so high. Most probably wont get the views it deserves mainly because of that.
@maheshloyola
@maheshloyola Месяц назад
Ramesh vinayagam sir is One of the brilliant music directors we have. My fav too always.... I always wonder why he doesn't do much of film music..... Wish he does more in near future...
@dhwanivijayaa
@dhwanivijayaa Месяц назад
What an interview,such a genius ❤
@ThePadmasesh
@ThePadmasesh Месяц назад
Superb. BR thankyou. Love this episode
@anonlegion8331
@anonlegion8331 Месяц назад
BR setting the Indian interview standards at the right position. Keep going!
@filmicreels476
@filmicreels476 Месяц назад
true face of AR Rahman is slowly coming out followed by the concert chaos now this one
@KabaKunD
@KabaKunD Месяц назад
time stamp pls..
@KabaKunD
@KabaKunD Месяц назад
33.40
@nishwing9935
@nishwing9935 Месяц назад
Bro...can you just briefly say...what he spoke.. about ARR?...I couldn't understand his language... please
@MrTubeyoucomment
@MrTubeyoucomment Месяц назад
Does it really matter. He is very "humble" 😏 you know
@Uyou-op7ec
@Uyou-op7ec Месяц назад
Who is humble?​@@MrTubeyoucomment
@premnaths7960
@premnaths7960 Месяц назад
SPB sir has praised him a very knowledgeable musician in an interview.
@praveennov
@praveennov Месяц назад
Genius... There is a certain sadness that is common to most geniuses. I am sorry for the hurt he carries and I wish something really beautiful happens that gives him a complete closure over the issue. His music is much needed in the current film scenario.
@satyateja4058
@satyateja4058 Месяц назад
Great interview! ‘Gamaka box notation ‘, very interesting 👍 love to know more about this n try this😃 any info about this please!
@padmamalinir4962
@padmamalinir4962 Месяц назад
Realization....Great soul and stuff 😊
@jsundar1
@jsundar1 Месяц назад
Should be the most knowledgeable musician in India 🤘
@Uyou-op7ec
@Uyou-op7ec Месяц назад
No Doubt about it.
@venkibalu51
@venkibalu51 Месяц назад
RV is an under utilised genius.
@DJ-MUSIX
@DJ-MUSIX Месяц назад
being a 2k kid,I am able to see the passion in this man's eyes. Hope this notation gets implemented everywhere
@adfilmsaarathydirector373
@adfilmsaarathydirector373 Месяц назад
Wonderfull interview ❤
@yootoobaakko2297
@yootoobaakko2297 Месяц назад
33:40 - for those who wanted to see what the controversy is about
@dharshb4474
@dharshb4474 Месяц назад
History has shown that Genius ' life work often goes unrecognised but please don't give up, keep going, keep going, it will reach those who are meant to hear. 🙏🏽
@ir43
@ir43 Месяц назад
History will be so much more kinder to Raja than Rahman. That is for sure.
@nishwing9935
@nishwing9935 Месяц назад
Bro...can you just briefly say...what he spoke.. about ARR?...I couldn't understand his language... please
@raghavadoregowda2191
@raghavadoregowda2191 Месяц назад
​@@nishwing9935 He pitched the idea of opening a pure western school with teachers directly hailing from Europe since India at the time in 1998 (according to Ramesh's timeline) did not have an authentic western education system. India having been in British rule had quite a number of churches with pure western compositions played in them. Rahman at the time was a good friend of Ramesh and was like "what? what are you talking about? What does all this even mean?" to Ramesh to which Rahman said if there would be any interest from his side he would contact back Ramesh(basically dismissing Ramesh). Ramesh claims that he had several meetings with Rahman over time even as his car was stuck in rain having a tough time navigating his way to meetings. As time passed, in 2008, KM music conservatory which has the "highest qualified" teachers from Europe, russia, etc. was opened by- AR Rahman. Ramesh got to know this at the last minute because Internet did not have much scope of reach at the time. ​So in all these years that he was a good friend to Rahman (not sure about now) Rahman did not contact Ramesh much. In the end, not even a sliver of credit of the idea was given to Ramesh let alone Rahman keeping away from Ramesh, that, when Ramesh with hurt emotions tried to speak out cautiously to media like The Hindu, he was rejected. Ramesh decided not to speak against this with the idea to not spread hate for his long time friend (and in general as well), but he says that the simple prospect that someone tends to have a second thought of "Between Rahman and Ramesh, who is bigger? So Who will get rejected more easily?" (You be the judge). What Ramesh also teased was that Rahman often says publicly "I feel like a loner". We, as society perceive it as "Geniuses are lonely. What a legendary statement!" Ramesh's perspective- "If he feels lonely about something, why can't he pitch up his close friend i.e me?" Ramesh is saying that he spots Rahman's insecurities differently but not so in a way that he uses it to hurt others. Now, if your question to me is who is right who is wrong what is the conclusion? No idea. I would like the comments educate on that
@raghavadoregowda2191
@raghavadoregowda2191 Месяц назад
And also....Please stop trusting anyone in the film industry please, me myself being a sound engineer from the very industry leant my lesson to be very very careful of even the so called "legends" NOBODY IS HONEST in the industry. Everyone in the film industry are varying levels of narcissists because of how we as society place them on a pedestal for nothing
@pullingoo2745
@pullingoo2745 Месяц назад
Raja only get copy right money not giving anything to society 😂surely society will remember the arrogant palaya Raja
@devaraj-fz1vy
@devaraj-fz1vy Месяц назад
​@@pullingoo2745Half baked idot
@reubenmathew6200
@reubenmathew6200 Месяц назад
Dude wtf does Baddy not know about. Im stunned by his knowledge of music…
@mahalakshmivisagan9466
@mahalakshmivisagan9466 Месяц назад
Really😮
@srinidhivaradarajan7332
@srinidhivaradarajan7332 Месяц назад
Sir, Please share details on how one could learn the Gamakabox notation system.
@krithikasuri
@krithikasuri Месяц назад
The whole point is that it is patented
@krishvinay
@krishvinay Месяц назад
@@krithikasuriyes. It is - it will be offered as a curriculum of education in Indian schools and further in future it will be imparted by way of online education route through subscription just like any other course offered as a skill for a fee and that offers will be to the entire world! Interested parties can learn irrespective of any religion, caste, creed, nationality!
@vivekvilla
@vivekvilla Месяц назад
For someone following ramesh vinayakam for long will know his genius. As always, tamil audience are very late to acknowledge his talent. At least now, thru BR, RV is gona get wider recognition. His music knowledge is incomparable. Such a pathetic industry failed to utilise him. There is a video in MMFA youtube channel, (Mellisai mannar fans association) in which he decodes the greatest compositions of the legend MSV, you could understand the levels of his musical wisdom.
@Uyou-op7ec
@Uyou-op7ec Месяц назад
Do You mean to say Ramesh Vinayakam got to do films like Univercity,Hey Nee Romba Azagairukka,Naladamayanthi,Azageeya theeyea,Jerry,Mosakutti,Ramanujan,A Common Man(Hollywood film,,Ben Kingsley,Ben Cross) and other Telugu films like Aunty(which ran for 100 days) without approaching,Directors,Producers and media ?
@Uyou-op7ec
@Uyou-op7ec Месяц назад
​@@-_.0OI have the question for You.
@srajan5286
@srajan5286 Месяц назад
He is absolutely correct,,,we should have proper notation in Carnatic music
@mahanarasimhan1867
@mahanarasimhan1867 Месяц назад
How is the notation for gamakas using this system different from how it is codified in Sangeetha Sampradaya Pradarshini?
@Uyou-op7ec
@Uyou-op7ec Месяц назад
Gamakas are not codified in any form by anyone except by Ramesh Vinayakam.Ramesh Vinayakam had done the first complete notation for Indian classical music or Indian Music.
@dhakshan
@dhakshan Месяц назад
@@Uyou-op7ec not true. like the original poster asked, Subbarama Dikshitar in his Sangeetha Sampradaya Pradarshini did try to do this and it works for veena to some extent. Many other people have done so in their own ways. It is just that there isn't one universal notation system.
@sasi1906
@sasi1906 Месяц назад
I like his music
@jayaramanganesan4672
@jayaramanganesan4672 Месяц назад
I bow down to the supreme enthroned in Ramesh Vinaayagam as Nadham🎉🎉🎉
@Uyou-op7ec
@Uyou-op7ec Месяц назад
You have touched the crux.
@muralimohan7538
@muralimohan7538 Месяц назад
Gamakified 🤗
@2010BLUEHILLS
@2010BLUEHILLS Месяц назад
Things so deceitful should be opened up ...wrong moves are wrong ...Ramesh did the right thing it's the way of nature ..GOOD LUCK RAMESH DO WELL GOD BLESS YOU
@adfilmsaarathydirector373
@adfilmsaarathydirector373 Месяц назад
Wow
@counterpoint9260
@counterpoint9260 Месяц назад
33.40 Rahman's betrayal and backstabbing..Rahman's edifice is crumbling now
@nishwing9935
@nishwing9935 Месяц назад
Bro...can you just briefly say...what he spoke.. about ARR?...I couldn't understand his language... please
@Uyou-op7ec
@Uyou-op7ec Месяц назад
​@@nishwing9935he has spoken in English.You are writing in English.Why are acting as though Ramesh Vinayakam had spoken in alien language?
@counterpoint9260
@counterpoint9260 Месяц назад
@@nishwing9935 he said opening a conservatory was his idea which he had shared with Rahman, Rahman agreed to work with him, but later on ditched him an dsuddenly announced KM conservatory which took Ramesh by surprise..Rahman also refused to see Ramesh or entertain nhis phone calls..
@mahanarasimhan1867
@mahanarasimhan1867 Месяц назад
Definitely a great musiican nit given the opportunities he deserves
@sudhakarnc1538
@sudhakarnc1538 Месяц назад
Congrats to Ramesh sir. We know he's very talented. A little demo could have been better. 🙏
@sathishkumar-pl2ri
@sathishkumar-pl2ri Месяц назад
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍👍
@krithikasuri
@krithikasuri Месяц назад
Why patent this if it had to reach everyone....it should be open sourced to reach everyone. I have great respect for Mr. Ramesh and is a fan for many of his words. But this question is out of curiosity
@Uyou-op7ec
@Uyou-op7ec Месяц назад
Everybody thinks that knowledge should be given just like that.Also everybody thinks that the duty of a Teacher is to teach.Both the statements made above may look correct outwardly but it is not as simple as it looks.IT IS THE DUTY OF A TEACHER TO TEACH ONLY THOSE WHO SEEK IT.Knowledge is Fire,Power, Sharpest Sword which may turn differently according to time,space and causation of action.Ramesh Vinayakam is a Rishi,A Dirgha Darshi,A Saint in normal clothes.A World TEACHER apart from being A World Musician, Composer.Patenting is the only way to preserve the purity and holiness of the work done.I have not seen anyone thinking so deeply for the whole universe,world and spending years and years of hard time doing very Great research on this particular subject called deciphering The BigBugbear called Gamaka and Boxing it to be simplified for the whole world to access easily..This Man has solved so many problems in one brilliantly Shining Stroke.Enjoy it as the time comes.Some 150 yrs or more than that before some musical stalwarts tried to notate Carnatic music and failed miserably and ended up with complicated complex form which became mind-boggling to those who saw in paper.I have heard some Carnatic stalwarts discouraging some of their students from getting into this .They have even felt it will be a time consuming time wasting effort not worth it.This is the actual scenario.Everything is for good.We are witnessing a path breaking, historical epoch in front of our eyes where for the very first time in modern history a new universal language for music is born.
@Uyou-op7ec
@Uyou-op7ec Месяц назад
Since You have asked so sincerely I felt like explaining my thoughts to You.May You All Grow Great In Life.Cherish and support this man.He has been battling all along all alone far too long.May Ramesh Vinayakam 's Wish Be Fulfilled By The Great Almighty.
@vivekvilla
@vivekvilla Месяц назад
Not this early. He has to get all the dividends for his hard-work and years of Sacrifice. When it becomes popular in the future maybe after 10 years, when RV decides, he holds all the right to make it free for public and a good man in himself will surely do.
@thamilanban
@thamilanban Месяц назад
Good that people are getting to understand AR now
@nishwing9935
@nishwing9935 Месяц назад
AR means Rahman? What u understood? Can you explain
@2010BLUEHILLS
@2010BLUEHILLS Месяц назад
I'm sure the old pundits of karnatic music will be infuriated ..they want it all secret hidden closed ...kuddos to vinayagam doing this great feat ..hope it spreads and breaks the barriers of good music
@Uyou-op7ec
@Uyou-op7ec Месяц назад
All the pundits of Carnatic music are very happy and proud of Ramesh Vinayakam 'New invention called Gamaka Box.You can search the appropriate RU-vid stuff and other news in other medias for Yourself.Do not give a totally wrong picture about others.All these years there was no tool to teach Carnatic or Hindustani music . Gamaka Box has the beauty to fill that gap.
@Uyou-op7ec
@Uyou-op7ec Месяц назад
Ramesh Vinayakam clearly mentions that we should the Carnatic masters for preserving their through oral tradition inspite of not having any aid inthe written form of music...unnotated form of music.
@LaxCapra
@LaxCapra Месяц назад
I’m always intrigued by Ramesh’ musical acumen. But in relation to his argument that Gamaka Box will open up Carnatic Music to people of various sects more than TM Krishna claims to have himself… I have to disagree. Albeit only a hypothesis, I believe his invention might reach more people in the West than the sidelined communities in his own country… similar to his own example where he mentions Carnatic music had successfully reached John Higgins (but conveniently fails to mention why it didn’t reach the other communities in his own landscape). Brahmins have never had an issue with white-worshipping. It is an egalitarian Indian society that they find difficult digesting.
@krishvinay
@krishvinay Месяц назад
Music for all is what is his motto is what I see!
@vchannel1332
@vchannel1332 Месяц назад
This interview will unfortunately become known for RV's charges against ARR. Because it was more sensational than the other topic they talked about, which was too technical and will go over the head of most viewers. As I watched it, I kept wondering about how my childhood hero's reputation has been going for a toss in the last couple of years. So many controversies - using hindustanig song in PS-2 without proper credits, the concert ticketing fiasco, allegations about Jai Ho, and now this. Case of Jealousy or any truth in these? Who knows? But I really don't get RV's issue. Did ARR promise or actually steal something? He could be disappointed but the man appears really hurt.
@bharathirajamuruganandham1168
@bharathirajamuruganandham1168 Месяц назад
Yes he comes across as really hurt. All he is saying is he came up with the idea, had meetings with ARR about this and one fine day finds ARR materialised RV's idea keeping him in the dark. Felt backstabbed by his own friend. Hope they both resolve this amicably.
@ravindraan
@ravindraan Месяц назад
The sound recordist stole the idea of Mr Vinayakam.
@gokulraj8494
@gokulraj8494 Месяц назад
I think there is some miscommunication or something. Because the time which Ramesh mentions was the time when Slumdog Millionaire happened. It was a hectic time for Rahman. I wonder whether Ramesh met Rahman directly during those meetings.
@rashika19music
@rashika19music Месяц назад
yes exactly even I don't get the point, rahman didn't steal the gamaka box notation system, he just separately started his own conservatory
@Uyou-op7ec
@Uyou-op7ec Месяц назад
​@@rashika19musicRamesh Vinayakam is clear about what Ar took from Him . Gamaka Box news came in 2010 which is the only stuff like that to be patented.Now no one can steal it.Meetings as friends between Ramesh Vinayakam and Ar happened before 2008.Ramesh and Ar are student of Piano Master Jacob John.Master had wanted Ramesh to continue His legacy as Ramesh was Jacob Johns favourite student.The whole idea was Ramesh's .Please hear the interview again and again and understand what had happened during that period..It is all clear.
@ramprasadsedouram2170
@ramprasadsedouram2170 Месяц назад
With all due respect, I did not like the last 10 minutes of this episode which was just plain bad talk about a particular person. Did Mr. Ramesh spend any money or sign any contract with ARR that he will be a vital part of KMMC...? He hadnt mentioned anything like that here... Just because you may have had the idea of starting the school and you seeded the idea into people like ARR - it does not mean they ought to compensate you for it. If he feels he wants to execute the idea himself with his team and his own money and leadership skill, where is your problem here? Good is happening via the school, whether yr name was there in the founders namelist or not. And secondly, who knows what you spoke or how you behaved in those meetings that you mentioned. I don think Rahman has ever talked bad about anyone unlike the person on this interview. He could have avoided or ignored some people from his life for his own/his team's/work's peace... I think everyone has the right to, to lead a peaceful life. Another disagreement i have with this interview is the comparison of nadaswaram not being taught to brahmins... How unfair? Let's assume every profession is respected equally in this world(which is how it should be!), how many brahmins actually are wrestlers, sanitary workers, barbers and masons in Tamil Nadu today? compared to other community folks in the same profession? This nadaswaram example is just another way to gatekeep your carnatic music Mr.Ramesh... If you were so very generous and good hearted, you would not have patented your box system but kept it open source and taught everyone about it online in youtube and insta instead of cribbing about these in almost half the video here. Take care and Good luck...
@krishvinay
@krishvinay Месяц назад
@ramprasadsedouram2170>>You have exhibited your ignorance - it clearly shows that you do not have any intelligence to understand what RV has done! Keep your accumulated ignorance up!
@krishvinay
@krishvinay Месяц назад
@@ramprasadsedouram2170 then it is all the more proves my statement of your ignorance!
@ramprasadsedouram2170
@ramprasadsedouram2170 Месяц назад
@@krishvinay thanks so much sir ..
@amjathkhan2004
@amjathkhan2004 Месяц назад
So true. Most of the people commenting here are purely jealous and blinded by their hatred towards ARR. They even mention his recent concert fiasco (out of hundreds of his successful concerts), Sukhwinder claiming "Jai Ho" as his, and various small-time musicians helping ARR with background scores, implying he isn't original. This trend has been ongoing for a while now. If you cannot find faults with an artist, just discredit him-that's what they are doing. It all started with Mr. H. Sridhar's demise. I don't want to delve into whose fans they are or what their personal motives are. Even in this interview, what's exactly the fault of ARR? Opening a music conservatory? How many times has ARR spoken ill about others? Here, Mr. RV clearly had a motive; he could have avoided it, but he still wanted to make it a complaint. If he's really hurt, did he convey that to ARR, and what was ARR's response? Here, he has hurt ARR and his fans by making a childish claim. How could that even be stealing? It's like saying I have the patent for brother-sister relationships in movies, and Bharathiraja stole it for the movie "Kizhakku Seemayile." Oh, come on, genius.
@krishvinay
@krishvinay Месяц назад
It is only right that he scored music for the biopic Ramanujan - who also had undergone trials and tribulations in his life - such a Genius is Ramanujan - he never moved away from Maths for which he is ordained by Providence - seems this Musical Genius’s journey is similar and this only comes to my mind that he is “Music Rishi” who has taken music as his penance!
@Uyou-op7ec
@Uyou-op7ec Месяц назад
GnanaRajasekaran,The Director of bio pic Ramanujan, During Ramanujan Audio launch described and compared Ramesh Vinayakam with Mathematician Srinivasa Ramanujan..saying Ramesh becomes entirely different when he composed and immersed in music.It came in the RU-vid too.
@Uyou-op7ec
@Uyou-op7ec Месяц назад
The Director said in Tamil "evare oru Ramanujan thaan" mentioning Ramesh in the stage.
@fotobala33
@fotobala33 29 дней назад
It is really unfortunate that AR Rahman took all the idea of a Music Conservatory from Ramesh Vinayagam and started KM Conservatory without even telling him. This is like back stabbing. Ramesh is a Music Genius like Ilaiyaraaja where as Rahman is more an oppurtunist on many occasions.
@MrTubeyoucomment
@MrTubeyoucomment Месяц назад
Normally I would listen to RU-vid videos at 1.5 speed, this one I have to slow it down to 0.75 .
@Uyou-op7ec
@Uyou-op7ec Месяц назад
Would You mind explaining it further?
@MrTubeyoucomment
@MrTubeyoucomment 24 дня назад
@@Uyou-op7ec I mean the video has so much content that i had to slow it down to understand what he is saying. Also Ramesh is talking too fast.
@Amar_monk
@Amar_monk Месяц назад
Ramesh Vinayak's invention is great. But his ideas are as archaic as Carnatic
@jananisriganesh9365
@jananisriganesh9365 Месяц назад
What do you mean carnatic is archaic?
@lighthasappeared9209
@lighthasappeared9209 Месяц назад
AR Rahman is this true ? 😢
@vijaysing007
@vijaysing007 Месяц назад
Mr.Ramesh Vinayagam has great knowledge and intrest in music. But he can't accept and understand the fact that how Carnatic music was intentionally restricted to particular group of people despite he introduced the written form 15 years ago. His examples of some successful musicians via Cinema itself says that he can't name anyone from Carnatic music world.
@SudarshanSrinath
@SudarshanSrinath Месяц назад
Chombu thooki of TMK and a disguised 2 rs oopi spotted
@kumarm5961
@kumarm5961 Месяц назад
Ramesh said what he had gone through and u bro pin point some issues which is not at all connected
@ganeshm2077
@ganeshm2077 Месяц назад
For how long is this channel going to waste BR with these mindless interviews🤦‍♂️
@prasannaramachandran4053
@prasannaramachandran4053 Месяц назад
Mindless? Could you elaborate? Ramesh Vinayakam is a powerhouse of talent and immensely underutilized and undervalued by the Tamil film industry. I for one am very excited to see this interview. Maybe I’m missing some context as it relates to your comment?
@ganeshm2077
@ganeshm2077 Месяц назад
@@prasannaramachandran4053 When you put multiple interviews within a week it becomes mindless no matter who the person is. This channel doesnt have anything other than interviews. BR previous channel had lot of variety.
@prasannaramachandran4053
@prasannaramachandran4053 Месяц назад
@@ganeshm2077hmm, will have to disagree there. Yes there are multiple interviews, but I’m only going to watch the ones I’m interested in. And if the interviewer is well prepared and has done their homework, as is the case here, the conversation is far from “mindless”.
@dhwanivijayaa
@dhwanivijayaa Месяц назад
Do you even know this genius of a musician? Clearly shows you don't ,so please hold your comments till you are done with your research
@ganeshm2077
@ganeshm2077 Месяц назад
@@dhwanivijayaa Please read my previous comments before reacting
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