Random Year Gold Coins vs. Brilliant Uncirculated 

Dealer when selling: those scratches make no difference, bullion is bullion Dealer when buying: sorry those scratches I caused when I sold it to you takes away some of the value

LCS tried selling me a scratchy BU Kruger. I go “You better take that back to where you found it if you want me to keep buying stuff here” he turned around with no words and come back out with a mint one in capsule...

I bought a random year Buffalo from Hero Bullion and ended up receiving a 2021. I was pretty stoked! Cheers guys! ✌🏽

You my friend are making my Gold Addiction worse! 👍👍👍👍👍

Every coin you buy becomes a random year within 12 months or so.

Dr. Jekyll says "Horde" Mr. Hyde says "Invest"

One thing that might make a difference to some people: Security features. For example, a random year Maple is not necessarily going to have the radial lines and/or the micro-engraved date. Bullion is bullion, but only if you know for certain that it is bullion. Security features do make that much easier.

Always love your insightful info!

I think we quickly forget that “bullion is bullion”. At least when buying from my LCS, they say the date and condition is not that big of a deal. I was able to get a 1980 Maple at good price this week and actually it is pretty cool since it has the young queen on it.

Thank you for the channel and great information.

Lighting on point! 💯💯

I truly appreciate your commentary in all your videos. I’m relatively new to stacking. I must say you seem to be My Go To ✨

I really enjoy your videos great content again my friend .

Great content as usual! I picked up a few random year gold Buffalos from Silver Gold Bull in the past and they arrived in great condition, so I agree that random year for certain coins can be a great choice. BTW, JMBullion still has a few random year 1/2 oz gold Eagles left for a decent premium for anyone interested.

Great topic i'm fairly new to gold so it's been a question i've wondered about. Thanks

Personally I always buy current year at the time BU coins. My current budget allows generally for a few coins a year. I like being able to look back at my collection and know what and how much I bought in any given year. I think it will be interesting to look back in 30 years and see what I was able to afford over the years and as I age. It does pain me a little knowing I am paying a premium for current year on top of the already high premiums but it just does something good for my psychology.

I appreciate your time. You make great informative videos. Glad a reasonable, logical person can stack like you do. Hope you are stacking the basics as well. BBBB i know you are doing well on the forth B. Vaya con Dios!

Enjoy your videos! I buy random dates because in the long run I think it's a greater value. I capsule all the Buffaloes and don't buy the queen!

Definitely can relate 😂 I’m sooo picky! If I get even silver with a scratch or rust spec I’m pissed immediately haha but you’re totally right. They are bullion. It’s funny the stuff we get hung up on. Thank you for always bringing the killer insight 🔥

Good info, ya I feel exactly the same way about buffalos-can’t hardly see any imperfections-thanks for input, very helpful 👍🏻

Everyone likes minty coins, but c'mon! If we can't touch them and occasionally drop them on the floor or have a nephew put them in a coffee grinder, then what are they good for?!

I agree, a little nick or scratch is okay, especially with a discount involved... cool video.🏴‍☠️

I watch every video just to see gold.

I just want to buy gold for as low as I can. Except for the 2021 Buffalo I just got in the mail. 😁

I hear a lot about “gold is gold” but is hard for me to not care for my coins. Some people call OCD, but to me is pride in taking care of my stuff ( clean house, car, work area, etc). Once I bought a 10g gold bar and noticed that the bar got some dings probably caused by the assay card. I could not see that and removed the bar. After a few days I decided to sell it and sure enough that BS about it had some scratches and was worth less. I now only buy BU coins and look for the newest year and keep all my coins in capsules.

Good commentary

Agree. For a proof, pay the extra. Otherwise, I go for the random date lower premium....

I just ordered a random variety 5 gram gold bar, partially it was because gold prices rose as you know but also because I wouldn't mind a 5 gram bar that is not in assay packaging although if it does come that way there is no complaints here lol. I want to see, touch, taste 😉 the actual gold bar without opening the assay packaging.

I like to buy random year. Not long ago I bought a 1/4 philharmonic and it was from 1998 and it said Schilling on the reverse. I love it not to know what to get. Great Video as always! Ronny 😎

Interesting take, imo I could not possibly care less if a coin is scratched. They all go in capsules when I have them, but when I buy I see it as buying the metal. The fact it is in coin form is secondary

You keep buying Buffaloes you making me go broke trying to keep pace 😆 keep stacking luv them you have wonderful videos

Right now SilverGoldBull has random year buffalos for 6.92% premium. There’s a good chance you can still end up with a BU coin when buying these “circulated” random year coins. My LCS doesn’t care about these things with bullion coins; he will pay the same price for one that is BU or circulated.

Thats quite curious, I´ve also become much pickier with the coins I buy, since most of them will be shown on my channel. And thats actually quite good, this makes me resist the urge to buy coins in bad condition which wont retain much value in the future. I just need the auctions to cool down juuust a bit so I can buy gold again. For now, it will be silver and bronze for me.

This video is a case for 90% gold, harder to scratch.

Random date is usually the dealers random trash, but some times I like trash especially when it comes to Silver Eagles.. But since Random date is usually dealers buybacks. I think I will stick with BU in Gold and Random date for ASE's @$1.99 over spot when spot is $15 lol.. Of course when we see them prices again! lol

I *wish* I had a gold coin like that. Lost everything in that tragic boat accident. (Old man jokes, I know)

You pretty much answered your own question. Buffalos, Krugerrands, Eagles okay for random year. The rest be picky if they are mirror finishes like Maples and Britannia; they will be noticed. Fractional and older coins like Roosters, Sovereigns get a fair pass for quality control. Proof coins I'd only get if they are equal price to BU or less, face it, its a collectible.

My friend, buys random year only in his effort to wash cash. Read between the lines here and give it a think. Kind of like casino chips that are good elsewhere and who knows how long you've had them, unless the date says it wasn't last year.

Love the random year...especially on the pre-1933 stuff. Ordered a $5 Liberty and got an 1880...how cool is that? Ordered another one (this is back before the high premiums) and got a 1900...a turn of the century coin. Not many people seem to appreciate the turn of the millennium but I think having a 1900 US gold coin is pretty cool! I will order modern day ones as well. It's always interesting to see what you get. Great video!

Random date purchases add a little excitement to your buy. I’ve picked a few up because they were cheaper. Depending on the time of year, new ones could be cheaper. Just got to look around, but would never pass a deal up on a random though. Have seen a few new BU coins looking like they were dropped and kicked across the floor. It’s all a little bit of a hope and prayer these days.

There is a 500 gold balboa coin from Panama that is over 1 oz depicting the Spanish explorer Vasco Nunez de Balboa kneeling before the Pacific Ocean.

Honestly with the amount of coins coming from the mint direct with scratches just from being in the tube it’s whatever is the best price for me

I've often wondered if the condition really made that much of a difference when it comes to stacking straight bullion coins, not numismatic coins.

I don’t mind little nicks/scratches here and there on BU eagles. I have a few imperfections on mine too. It still retains its value when selling to the LCS unless it truly is all scratched up. The thing I dislike are big gouge marks as if someone dropped the coin on a hard surface or hit it with something hard. That said, I almost always buy BU 😊

Wow. I agree with this message. Especially the Jekyl and Hyde part. 🙂I will also buy random coins/random date if the price is right and I’m in the mood for a surprise. I was disappointed only once when I got three beat up 1/4 oz gold coins in assay from a less popular mint. Yep, dings in assay. I hung on to them for a while, but every time I pulled them out I felt gypped, so I finally swapped them for 2 Krugs and a panda at my LCS, which also refines gold. No extra cost to me. The mint was more disappointing to me than the dings, as jewelers in my area will buy dinged up gold at spot.

Cool thoughts. Got some scratched up coins from a precious metals bank. Weight and dimensions checked out right and for 2% over spot, no complaints. Scratches and dings become the identity of the coins. They become like a herd of sheep. You know which is which, you know they're yours, and nobody can fake it ding for ding should someone try to pull a fast one on you. Now, anytime the premiums are 5% over spot, I get picky and want to be the one to ding the coin myself.

I don't really care I just like the gold! Stacking for weight not condition unless it is something I want to collect!

Probably the best coin to get, followed by the Maple - and I live in Canada.

Buying Random year is great if you are looking to minimize the premium. I have been able to find random year Gov issued bullion for as low as 3.5% - 5% over spot, even in the last few months.

The points raised in the video are understood, credible and very much respected. However, some stackers/collectors may purchase gold coins "primarily" for their artistic perfection and beauty. The fact that such coins represent a true storage of wealth and perhaps a hedge against inflation is of only strong "secondary" importance. Of course, nothing in this man-made part of "things" is absolutely perfect (in fact, slight imperfections are often referred to as having acceptable "character"). But, the degree of artistic perfection and beauty to which I refer is that which is perceivable to the "unaided" eye. These stackers/collectors are willing to pay so-called "usual" premiums over Spot (not what has been going on these days) for purposes of buying such seemingly blemish free coins. A lot of money is being paid - and quality on-line dealers have reasonable "return policies" regarding BU blemished gold coins (especially in regard to its long-time, loyal customers). The overall idea is to buy what YOU like and enjoy. Set your own standards - and to thine own self - be true! [Plagiarism admitted.] As an "aside," it is to be noted that Buffalo coins have no mirrored surfaces. Accordingly, one has a decent chance of receiving "seemingly scratch-free coins" of this type of gold presentations. On the other hand, as concerns the beautifully, mirrored Maple Leafs . . . expectations might require some adjustment.

I am a supporter of random for the price but for the past year have been spoiled by getting new ones even cheaper.

Dalm very cool beautiful gold coins..

It depends on the Premium. If I can get a Random Year for a significant price reduction and my goal is stacking and not coin collecting then I go for it. But the Shine of a Brilliant Uncirculated is also something.

I've decided to be as purely a stacker as I can be, so I go with the random year option. Nevertheless, I still think it makes a difference in terms of liquidity what kind of bullion coin you get.

3:00 “circulated” gold makes me think of the Au vending machines in Dubai. For those times when you get a craving for a KitKat and 10g gold bar.

What is maximum premium you suggest for all 3 styles.? What is a good deal premium?

I got a random year maple with a pretty good gash in it. Decided to keep it anyway. I suppose there was the option to send it back, but it will be easier to separate with later on.

Random coins have worked great for me. If you do not mind small details, you DO save quite some money. You might also get lucky and get a beautiful sample!! In any case, random year or not, 1 oz. of gold is 1 oz. of gold. If you are trying to sell, little scratches or details should not be a deal breaker, especially if you are buying long-term.

I agree for the most part most bullions are bullions. However, some are worth more than others. For example, 2020-W V75 AGE is worth 5-6 times more than spot price. And almost all of the burnished AGE are worth more than regular ones.

I received my silver maple leaf and there's a decent sized scratch along the Queen's cheek, looks like she got into a knife fight and lost 😆.

The first and only gold buffalo I have I bought as a random year, it ended being a 2021 with the tiniest scuff on the rim. I didn't care tho I got a good deal and it's the most beautiful coin of my collection so far!!!

gold is gold 🤓

Since I'm a new stacker I'm just grabbing random years :-) right now I'm just working on accumulating some gold, maybe later in life I might decide to go for BU :-)

I bought a monster of silver Maples because of the anti fraud features. I inspected a few tubes, they are all pristine. That was a few years ago when most of my purchases were kilo and 100 ounce bars. The gold Eagles I bought in the '90s came in tubes and are also mint state. But I mostly don't care about condition. Yes, I am happy that the Kangaroo I bought recently is unscratched and it would be nice if the two Maples that came in the same order were newer, but the point is I only paid $39.00 over spot for the three. The only time I cared about condition was a 10 ounce silver bar I bought from Apmex for $199.00 when generics were going for $25. less from other dealers. I had coveted that bar for a while. It is a "Jesus clears the Temple" from the Chris Duane collection. I don't think I will ever sell it. I also have a couple of early 1800s bust halves in better that "good" condition that have sentimental value, but the rest is all just valued by weight. The fact that I have never bought a capsule for anything should tell you my stacking attitude.

I've seen some folks on RU-vid freak out about tiny nicks on their bullion coins, which I have never really understood. If you're showcasing a coin I guess it matters more. I'll always buy random year if I can save a little cash. The only thing I'll specifically buy when I have the option is an AGE with Roman numerals for the date, I just happen to like those.

If I bought BU coins, I might have a couple, they will only get scratches kicking around here. I like the surprise with the " Random dates,". Like a box of chocolates.

I usually buy random from SD because, for me, gold is gold and silver is silver. I buy for a hedge of protection if things get bad. Things are not bad ,as they can be, yet. When they are I only care about intrinsic value not numismatic value. Most dealers will only give you spot anyway. There are exceptions. The worse it is the less the exceptions. The dealers around my area want to make as much profit as possible. They sell high and buy low.

Lol , I like that , I love & Prefer Uncirculated,but random with imperfections are AWSOME BECAUSE THEY HAVE CHARACTER ,💯💯🤙😎

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Hi 2is1, I would really appreciate your opinion , what gold and silver coin will you stack if you were like me living in europe (Spain) great video as always , thanks in advance

Bars i don't mind scratches unless its a Valcambi CombiBar that and coins i want just about perfect

I’m not a fan of pre-owned bullion, unless it’s something I really want to get as part of my collection. My dealer is great, he has both random and current year BU in stock. Choosing current year is a no brainer lol.

I want cool stuff, and yet all I want is the metal. Bought my first gold last week from Scottsdale Mint, little 1 oz poured gold for a 3% premium. I wanted the Gold Eagle, but Dr. Jekyll won the argument.

I think people are a little more cautious about how their first few coins look. Then figure out it is like that first scratch on a new car. Upset but live with it. Most people don't store their coins properly in the first place. So their coins will tone and tarnish anyway. I have seen gold coins from a safe in the basement without protection. Was still worth more than they paid for them. Hey 2is1 maybe a topic on storage.....

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If you read this I would like your take on the following. I was looking at some buffalos an hour ago trying to decide on a few 2022 Brilliant Uncirculated buffalos for $1913 ea versus Random Year Brilliant Uncirculated buffalos for $1888 ea, for a savings of $25 ea. Since both descriptions say “Brilliant Uncirculated” I would lean towards getting a few of the random date coins. Based on your experience, do some dealers play loose with the descriptions or is this scenario typical? Here are their words: (Spot is $1808) $1913 - 2022 1 oz American Gold Buffalo Brilliant Uncirculated .9999 Fine 24kt $1888 - 1 oz American Gold Buffalo Brilliant Uncirculated .9999 Fine 24kt (Random Year) $1886 - 1 oz American Gold Buffalo - Spotted / Scuffed .9999 Fine 24kt (Random Year)

in the end it's 1 oz of pure gold and highly fungable all over the world ie melt value and almost 100 % of the value is there

When I bought my last three gold coins in new york the guy pulled a stack of three from under the desk and tossed them onto the table, each one sliding off the other, before packing each one into a plastic sleeve. Like it was my change at McDonald's. I don't know if it was my hat, or my southern accent, or what but that hurt my feelings

I'm sorry to bother you but where do you go online to buy gold and what are your opinions 🤔 on acre gold subscription

It would be nice if the US mint started a trade in program- you give them 10 ounces of gold- judged by weight not condition- and they give you 9 and 1/4 Eagles in MS 69. I'm not holding my breath. I should open a store and offer this deal. I have a ton of Eagles.

Nice video, nice gold...but what about the k-nife?

For me today, to give you an example, on a 1/4 oz ML, there is a 5$ CAD diff on new or random, so i keep picking the new, i even added a ding, now i know how it feels🤨

Agreed that bullion is bullion. I handle my Gold all the time. It gets moved around, played with and sometime dropped. But it’s still an ounce of Gold. It’s for storing wealth, not grading.

as allways i comment from germany. just looked at my favorite online dealer for maple leafs 1 oz gold. he has only a 3 euro difference new to used.but if i sell it the next moment its a 23 euro difference.

Hey man, who cares what people think. If I can save a premium buying random year gold, I will. I do it all the time with 1/4 Oz eagles. I just make sure it says it’s going to come BU. Sometimes they’ve even sent me proofs 😂. Buffalos I buy random year BU, just because it’s always interesting to see what year you get. Maple leafs, are the ones I don’t usually get random years as much, as the results tend to be more dicey!

Interesting, currently the 2024 Buffalo is $5 less than a random year Buffalo at SD Bullion and the premium is just 4%.

Random year is the only way to go

In my 20’s so a little new to gold. Question: I didn’t know the year of a coin could make such a difference like 5% is there a threshold for the age of a coin. For example a 10 year old should be a certain percent cheaper or gold is gold no matter the year?

There are other youtubers that talk about gold that say they want only perfect gold coins. Perfect condition. For me, it depends on the premium and it depends on what is available. For example, if I could get a Gold eagle for the same price as a Kruggerand I would take the Eagle any day of the week. Its been that way before. Now, for me, Kruggerands are what is available and they are old stock but in saleable condition. You buy the best of what is available. If the best is Krugg's than that is what you buy. I won't pay 5% more for an Eagle. That's a much bigger premium in a market where the premium is already too high. You will not get the premium back when you sell. The dealer will tell you that an Eagle is not a collectors coin. Its just a 1 oz gold store of value. Nothing else. Nothing more. They made millions.

I am fine and can deal with some scratches or nicks.

Random year coins are great, especially when purchased from an LCS or private seller. Avoid the larger dealers! I can always find gold cheaper locally. Can't even remember the last time I bout gold from an online dealer. Been a fat minute I think. Wait a sec, did I see a scratch on that Maple?

Don't sweat the scratches. It doesn't matter.

I've seen some site have proof coins cheaper than BU. Any particular reason as to why.....?

Nothing like starting out 13 percent in the hole and then watching it drop drop drop .

So I've read that touching gold coins lowers the value. Now, I assume that refers to the premium as opposed to spot/ melt value. Since gold doesn't corrode or tarnish with time or handling. Am I correct in this assumption that pure gold, (or close to) will still sell for the melt price of current per ounce price, despite scratches or Knicks?

I’ve had excellent luck with silver gold bull. My first purchase from BSAGC, I think that’s their name, I bought a couple eagles and a maple leaf and the maple leaf looks like they dropped it on the concrete a few times, just sayin.

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So, do scratches lower the price of a coin or not really? I so, how much?

Scratches on coins are like stretch marks on women. It's the badge of honor 😉

Do you ever consider the potential numismatic value of your purchase? (Asking for a time traveler.)👍