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Range Rover P38 # 102 - FIP Tips and Adjustment 

Work On P38 (0ddj4rl3)
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Today's video contains a long ramble from me, but hopefully it is useful to somebody else out there.
First I'll give you guys a few tips on what to do before you install a new or refurbished pump.
Check that the inlet banjo bolts fits without issues.
Check that you can loosen the rear timing bolt without the larger triangular bolt comes off.
Make sure the pump otherwise looks undamaged.
Check for leaks by attaching the inlet pipe and return line, and then run the in-tank fuel pump by jumping relay 12 for a few minutes. Observe for any leaks.
Make sure the woodruff key on the pump axle fits into the groove on the engine sprocket. You can use your phone camera and record and review the alignment. It helps to make a small mark in the rotor or use some paint.
I had a few of these issues with my new refurbished pump so I had to return it for another one.
After making sure the pump aligns well with the woodruff key and sprocket, I had some hunting issues with the new pump. The engine would not idle properly and large amounts off unburnt fuel came out the exhaust.
If I disconnected the needle sensor the engine would idle great but at 1300-1400 RPM. Engine response was perfect.
With my diagnostic unit I noticed the crank speed and engine speed (needle lift sensor) was way different. The crankspeed was steady and seems right. However the needle lift sensor would report 400-800 RPM in a very random fashion. That's why I disconnected the sensor.
I knew this engine ran fine, strong and solid before I replaced the pump so I had doubts that either sensor was bad.
After searching for some clues I found a thread on a forum that helped me get an idea of what it could be.
Sorry I meant Landy Zone.co.uk, not Range Rovers.net in the video. Here's the thread that gave me hints and tips to solve the hunting idle: www.landyzone....
I adjusted the quantity adjustment mechanism, the top part of the pump. I did this by backing off the 4 bolts holding it down just a little bit. Note that you'll need a special triangular socket for the 4th bolt which goes through the top lid as well. Don't loosen the top lid, but the lower 3 bolts. Then gently tap with a rubber mallet forward or backwards until the engine idles properly.
Of course make sure the static (FIP timing) is set at 0.90 or 0.95 mm ( please see video # 96 • Range Rover P38 # 096 ... ) before you do any of this.
With the engine warmed up adjust until you get the properly idle speed and make sure the gas pedal responds as it should. Retighten the bolts carefully not to disturb the adjustment. It only takes microscopic adjustments to make great changes.
I'll leave you with a run-through of the live data from my diagnostic unit at the end. Please note that I've not set the static / FIP timing perfectly or fine-tuned the quantity adjustment at this moment so the values are to be used at your own discretion.
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Комментарии : 25   
@bluedeckelectronics
@bluedeckelectronics Год назад
Good video !
@yano6051
@yano6051 5 лет назад
Hello, injected quantity should be between 4 and 5 mg/s on your Hawkeye, that's how to tune actuator on your injection pump. Thanks for your videos, it really helps P38 owners
@WorkOnP38
@WorkOnP38 5 лет назад
Thanks for watching, Yano!
@juris6456
@juris6456 5 лет назад
thank for good video!
@WorkOnP38
@WorkOnP38 5 лет назад
Thanks for watching!
@KarateDrum
@KarateDrum 5 лет назад
Once again a very good video. I also have this kind of rough idling, i also tried the ruber hammer solution, that solve the problem but if i just incerase rpm it come back again to ths rough idling.
@WorkOnP38
@WorkOnP38 5 лет назад
Hello there. Yes, it's hard to get the correct adjustment without proper tools. You'll just need to try and adjust it so it works at all RPMs. Thanks for watching
@sebczajna700
@sebczajna700 5 лет назад
Hi , in my P38 i have new cylinder head, repaired injection pump, new timming. When my motor is cold then perfectly start , when its hot then i must cranking over 15-20 second for start. I cant find problem. Before repair all was ok🍻👍
@WorkOnP38
@WorkOnP38 5 лет назад
Hi Seb. Usually hard hot start is due to a worn injection pump. SInce you replaced it it's hard to say what the issue is. I'd check timing of the injection pump and just make sure everything is as it should be since you've replaced many parts. Thanks for watching!
@JohnJohn-ij5rj
@JohnJohn-ij5rj 2 года назад
I have just replaced the seals on my pump as they were leaking and have adjusted the pump until it runs ok however it does seem to lack power slightly and keeps stalling if I give it any throttle when it's up to temperature, injection quantity is between 4-5. Any tips would be greatly appreciated thanks! 👍😁
@james_delahunt
@james_delahunt 3 года назад
Hot start fix
@MrCalifornia1991
@MrCalifornia1991 3 года назад
So when you knock the pump's top cover towards the front of the engine, it increases the RPM a little and fixes the bad idling amd bad hot start?
@oneworld9860
@oneworld9860 3 года назад
Hello sir , hope you are well, I i own P38 1998 2.5 DSE Manual recently when I tried to install tuning box ,it didn't work but it messed up my engine , the jeep would start fine but it reves will not go above 1500 hundred even putting full paddle down .could drive aswel but max speed 55 kms/hr. I could figure out anything. I am after buying i car diagnostic computer for range rover P38. After diagnose it shows code of : Accelerator Potentiometer 1.Acel pot voltage out of range due to O/C or S/C in wires or sensors. 2. illogical values comparing throttle pot idle switch & throttle pot position. Would you have any idea about this issue .your valuable advice will be much appreciated . Regards Ahmed
@roofdownfun
@roofdownfun 5 лет назад
Hi, random question but on my 2000 P38 diesel I've got a water leak coming into the passenger side floor (UK car) is there a usual place it leaks from the pollen filter area where its coming in from, thanks for you videos love watching them. Tom
@WorkOnP38
@WorkOnP38 5 лет назад
Hello Thomas. Check out video # 75, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uvwuTpzr1hg.html and # 63 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iAxaCDZeYhg.html for some places to start looking for leaks. Thanks for watching!
@chrisgreenwood271
@chrisgreenwood271 5 лет назад
Couple of questions, what are your thoughts on fitting the aftermarket box to aid with the hot stat issue on these engines. Does your brake fluid rise as the engines cools (the level appears high on the video) I cured this on mine by replacing the accumulator, ABS pump now takes half the time to prime from cold, the pump now kicks in after the fourth press of the pedal, before the change the pump kicked in on each press of the pedal.
@WorkOnP38
@WorkOnP38 5 лет назад
Hello Chris. Yes, the brake fluid rises a bit after turning of the engine. That's why you should make sure the level is never over the max level so that the fluid has space to work. I believe the workshop manual mentions that the accumulator pump should start after about 5 uses of the brake pedal. So it sounds like you fixed your issue well. Regarding a hot start fix. Usually it's an indication that the injection pump is worn and soon in need of refurbishing. The timing might also be a bit off if it hasn't been checked and set regularly. If it's a car you intend to keep a while I'd consider replacing the pump if it's worn. A hot start fix is an easy and cheap way to postpone this rather expensive fix (unless you refurbish it yourself). I personally wouldn't fit a hot start fix (though I considered it), but it all depends on your particular situation so I'll leave that up to each one to determine. I ran my black P38 without a hot start fix for over 3 years with hard hot starting before I replaced the pump. Thanks for watching!
@chrisgreenwood271
@chrisgreenwood271 5 лет назад
Work On P38 thanks, the motor is 115k miles so not sure if that is in the mileage range for when they are worn, one thing I did notice that improved the hot staring, was to replace the vacuum pipe from the underside of the inlet manifold and blow out the passage, as I couldn't get to it when I cleaned out the manifold. Not completely sure what this vacuum pipe does. It's my weekend motor, it's not horrendous to start from hot I can live with it, but I will be having the timing checked as you mention, I'm meaning to get the gear box oils checked and changed in the future, having changed the oil on my drive today, I draw the line at the gear box getting too old for crawling under it. Though I did replace the centre to rear exhaust a couple of weeks ago, it took a couple of days to recover 😳
@gurhan.y1362
@gurhan.y1362 4 года назад
Hı, I have a question. Do you have any idea which cars clutch kit fits to 2000 P38 2.5 DSE manual. The parts for these cars in olur country are very limited and ı need to know if any BMW ör land Rover model clutch kit fits to this car.
@WorkOnP38
@WorkOnP38 4 года назад
Hi, I'm not sure which manual transmission the BMW or other brands came with. I seem to recall the manuals in the Range Rover were R380. But I'm not 100% sure. Anyways, you can always check various part suppliers to see if you can find some part numbers and cross-reference those with other brands. Thanks for watching!
@TheMukesz
@TheMukesz 4 года назад
Hello, I have a BMW 325tds, the engine is the same as P38. Can you help me out? How much the injected quantity? mg/s ? I think i need to change the quantity adjuster and i need this value to adjust it perfectly.
@WorkOnP38
@WorkOnP38 4 года назад
Hi I haven't managed to verify the value from any Bosch source so I've heard anything from 5 to 10 mg. I'd tend to lean towards 7-8+ but it's just a guess. Thanks for wathing!
@taddshaa209
@taddshaa209 5 лет назад
Hey again, quick question off topic. How can i change language on a speedometer? I want to change it to English.
@WorkOnP38
@WorkOnP38 5 лет назад
Hello Taa. Unfortunately you'll need a diagnostic unit that can do body programming. My HawkEye can do it, and I believe Nanocom and other do as well. Thanks for watching!
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