In this video I made a tier list of 25 of the medicine cats in Warriors! Where does your favorite medicine cat rank? Cat art is by Miss Dako: / miss_dakoart Intro by Lady Luzifer: / @lady_luzifer
I respectfully disagree with the last one. I believe that Shadowsight was a great character and med cat, and that the drama with Ashfur and him was very interesting and unusual. I also think that the fact that he could not communicate with Starclan was cool and unique, and that it was fun to read about a character who was being called to by darkness, but was able to overcome it and keep his good heart.
I like him, mainly in the last book. He was a little bit dramatic for me, although I can appreciate his story, his part with Ashfur was really good. But to be honest, I was more interested in Bristlefrost and Rootspring's relationship, though I will never again read book 6 (not the ending at least)
shhh Stormfur was on a journey so he obviously wasn't a part of RiverClan at the time he was POV. I was definitely thinking that and didn't just forget him
@@Webbylightplays2005 In the case of Super Editions, Flametail's perspective still came before Yellowfang, Tallstar, or Crookedstar. SkyClan's Destiny was the only Super Edition with a non ThunderClan perspective to release before his chapters.
Jayfeather is extremely popular but I love how sarcastic he is. I also LOVE yellowfang- she's just perfect Edit: also, CLEARLY akira is the best medicine cat. They can literally cure anything with one jayburger and a cookie.
I know right like yellowing and hard-earned are my two fans bc there personality and everything but like I have diggers of them and polished and pins and shirts and EVERYTHING I'm obsessed❤❤❤❤
Poor Willowshine. She deserved so much more. I would like a novella on Featherwhisker and Goosefeather’s relationship. It must’ve been hard for the guy to watch his Clanmates badmouth his mentor in front of him and for said mentor’s mental state deteriorate.
Featherwhisker was really nice I'd like to see more of him but then again I'd have to deal with all those characters being thanos snapped for plot convince. I still can't get over Sunstar. Warriors is so lazy with how it writes off deaths. The end of Bluestar's Prophecy was just like ' and half of then people I've ever known died of sicknesss'..like it was just an average event. Imagine them doing that in the modern books. Just everyone death in one sentence between books lol
I DID NOT like Willowshine. I don't know why, but she always irritated me, especially in broken code. Its a good thing she died, tbh, I agree she really did get in the way.
@@Vomitperson true, but he was the first genuine sweet male character we got. Besides jayfeather all the other make characters were "rah wanna be warrior and beat stuff up ooga booga" and alderheart was just a nice change. Jayfeather was still an asshole sometimes but alderheart was genuinley nice.
I think you should def go into more detail about Puddleshine, I’m planning a whole map around it actually! Just hear me out. First of all, as you mentioned in the video, Puddleshine never wanted to be a medicine cat, but was forced to become one because Shadowclan needed a medicine cat. Then Darktail comes along. We know that Puddleshine’s siblings and parents were all eager to join under Darktail’s leadership, and we also know that the only reason Puddleshine remained with the rouges was because he’d sworn to protect his clan mates. He never wanted to join the Kin. Then during his time there, his parents died and 2/3 of his siblings died, the siblings(Birchbark and Lioneye), being directly killed by Darktail. There’s also the fact that from Violetshine’s perspective, Pinenose was not a very loving mother. True, we were seeing it from Violetshines POV, but still. Also, like mentioned, he was turned into kind of a mean cat in Darkness Within, only to drive Shadowsights plot. Plus we know he had some uncertainty that he would be a good medicine cat, which makes me feel kind of bad for him, he’s trying his best. This is just what I noticed but I think he has a lot more going on than meets the eye and deserves to be recognised!
Puddleshine is also a little prodigy medicine cat. He may have been pushed into the role by the leader, but he picked up on the skills remarkably quickly and worked very well under pressure.
Great tier list I agree with most! The only one that suprised me was Barkface's placement, I always felt that Barkface's was such a genuinely nice and trustworthy cat especially towards tallstar in his special edition, I was so sad when he died, I personally would've put him higher! Let's give Akira some love for this tierlist aswell as the other videos, she deserves it!
I thought the exact same thing as you while watching this video, i just recently read tallstars revenge so him being a pretty great medicine cat is still fresh in my mind lol.
@@BPJD2004 I feel like a lot of people are downplaying Cinderpelt's injury. Her leg was CRUSHED BY A CAR! Also she wasn't forced to be a medicine cat. She just liked to help Yellowfang and Yellowfang asked her to be her apprentice.
@elizabethwaterman IKR!?!? I don't know why people do that! And yes, they did not force her to, however, from what she says in the book, I feel like she felt she had to, and technically Blue star even said she would never be a warrior. BECAUSE HER LEG WAS CHRUSHED BY A CAR! FOR STARCLANS SAKE PEOPLE!
@@BPJD2004like others said, he foot got crushed by a car. ALSO, Deadfoot was born with a bad leg. He doesn't know anything else other than having a bad leg. Cinderpelt, on the other hand, was a warrior apprentice and got her leg crushed! And she wasnt forced into being a med cat, she liked helping yolofang!
Nooo I love poor Runningnose :( he was so nice in yellowfangs secret! I also like Sagewhisker a lot; I don't know why. I love Shadowsight :( it's so interesting that he's connected to the dark. He was quiet and lonely and sad and I liked that. I would personally put Fidgetflake in F tier. They botched him so bad in Sky, he had 0 personality, I was hoping he would be "fidgety" and odd. Alderheart got super boring after the first book
I kind of always liked Littlecloud because I found it interesting that he started as a warrior and was inspired by Cinderpelt helping him to become a medicine cat. He might not have much going on but I think that was a really nice bit of personality they gave him.
Her character could definitely have been A or even S if not for how she was in Starclan. Yellowfang used to be one of my favorites. But I only really liked her when she was alive.
I've only read to the start of act 3 so other than being Firestar's other mum (Bluestar is is the other) she's been coming to be cryptic with and mock Jaypaw as the only Starclan cat agro enough to tone match him.
Aw man, I love Barkface 😅 His character and relationship with Tall in Tallstar’s Revenge is just really interesting and relatable to me. Actually, I really liked the trio of Bark, Shrew and Tall, even though the brothers didn’t go with Tall on his climatic journey. Obviously, Jake sort of steals the show in that story, but I don’t think they’ve ever made characters quite like Bark and his brother ever since and I like to think that he and Tall remained very close throughout their long lives as leader and medicine cat.
I feel like shadowsight had so much stuff going around him, but the execution was poor at best. the idea of a medicine cat turning evil could've been very interesting imo. he was so devastated after being manipulated into "killing" bramblestar and fooled by ashfur he considered staying in the dark forest. the writers really put so much pressure on the "good cats turning evil" thing, yet we really only saw that with ashfur. I know shadowsight was supposed to be an anxious guy, but come on. that would've been so much better giving the context
not to mention all of the other cats who treated him poorly, most notably lionblaze. I can imagine shadowsight growing so furious of all of the cats around him who kept doubting him and putting blame he'd finally snap and do something awful. he kinda already gave up on everything in the 3rd book of tbc and he was still under the influence of ashfur, so that'd make sense
Tbh I kinda liked seeing a character get beat and battered over and over, (imposter nearly killing him, accidentally killing bramble, constantly being dismissed by the clans, his full medicine status being revoked, his clan mates boy trusting him, being kept away prisoner in his own clan, lionblaze intimidating him, goes to dark Forrest and is nearly killed, then it is revealed that he does not have a connection to starclan) and still manage to be good at heart.
I love and adore Cinderpelt and find it a little annoying when people talk about how her injury wouldn’t be super debilitating for a cat. Like, these cats act like people and an injury like that would be debilitating for a person. I also like how she becomes disabled in a sudden and jarring way and has to learn to grapple with it and what that means. She has to accept that there are things that she can’t do anymore while finding things that she can do. The fact that she felt like a burden when she first became disabled is super relatable and it’s nice seeing her regain confidence and live happily despite having her whole world changed in an instant. Cinderpelt’s story is something that is super relatable for me as someone who has recently became disabled. Just one day my body stopped working the way it should and I have never been able to recover. I have a lot of pain and difficulty walking as well as many other symptoms and dropped out of college to reevaluate my life and how my health affects it. I didn’t feel comfortable moving to live on my own when sometimes I can’t stand up on my own. I guess, for me, it’s similar to when people say that Briarlight is poor disability representation because she “doesn’t do anything”. The entire thing about being disabled is that there are limitations. That there are things that you can’t do and that’s okay. You might not be able to do or become what you originally wanted for yourself because of your disability but that isn’t the end of the world and you can live a happy fulfilling life. I guess I’m just kinda annoyed by the sentiment I see a lot in the Warriors Fandom that it is “poor disability representation” to have a character be debilitated by their disability. Now, Warriors doesn’t have great disability representation especially with the first one we see being Snowkit who’s disability was treated like a tragedy and then they killed him. But, it’s a little upsetting when people talk about how Briarlight and Cinderpelt didn’t become warriors when they probably could have. Brightheart, after becoming disabled, decided to continue being a warrior and work around her disability and that’s great! Cinderpelt, after becoming disabled, decided that she couldn’t be a warrior and found something else that would be easier for her to do with her disability and that’s great! Briarlight decided to not be a warrior or a medicine cat and instead find things to do around camp and that’s great!
Resident Featherwhisker lover here, he's (in my humble yet very correct opinion) one of the sweetest without being annoying characters and also one of the few with a sense of humor, also he's very fluffy-just look at the official art of him- so I therefore must love him.
Alderheart is a cat you can actually relate to. All the other protagonists, just worry about the plot, get a love, are almost overconfident and done. Alderheart, on the other hand, will often doubt himself, such as becoming an apprentice. I mean, we all do, don't we?
mudfur was interesting in only one aspect, that he became a medicine cat apprentice after being a fully trained warrior. i think his choice was extremely interesting and cool, but other than that i forget about him. i just think, oh yeah, mudfur. that guy. also barkface is one of my favorite characters, i just like his vibes. he’s always been so kind and supportive and levelheaded. he was one of my favorite parts of tallstars revenge.
Tbh, I hate that they made Cinderpelt a medicine cat. DeadFoot, a windclanner born with a twisted front paw, was a amazing warrior despite his paw and he even became deputy. However, giving Cinderpelt a second life, makes her special and outstanding from any other cat.
The only medicine cat I don't like is hawkheart he should have ended up in the dark forest he killed moonflower yes ik moonflower went after their herbs but hawkheart knocked her across the clearing stunning her he didn't need to kill her Hawkheart lunges at her, hurling her off her paws. He springs onto the she-cat and sinks her teeth into the warrior's neck. Moonflower manages to struggle free and smacks Hawkheart's muzzle, but the tom shrugs her off as if it was a fly. He grabs Moonflower by the throat and throws her across the grass, killing her. It says on hawkhearts Wikipedia page that he flung her across the clearing by her throat no good cat would attack like that
@@BPJD2004i mean moonflower was experienced yes it was wrong for her to go after their supplies but hawkheart didn't have to kill her moonflower was already defeated it even says in bluestars se hawkheart flung moonflower across the clearing then launched across the clearing onto moonflowers throat and what's with the condescending tone moonflower was 4 years old at the time of her death how is that not experienced
I also respectfully disagree with the last one. I think Shadowsight's pretty interesting. Even though he's a nervous medicine cat character like Alderheart and Frostpaw, his anxiety is caused by something different (aside from feeling as though the fate of their respective Clan and/or all of the Clans as a whole rests on their shoulders). From what I recall, Alderheart's anxiety stems mostly from the pressure of his family's legacy. Some of Frostpaw's anxiety can be traced back to being forced into being a medicine cat apprentice, and much of that anxiety (and the pressure of saving RiverClan) is lifted when she becomes a warrior apprentice. Shadowsight has been able to see terrifying things since he was a kit, and these visions were often accompanied by seizures that left him feeling weak (it's also possible that he was accidentally injured by his loved ones during his seizures due to them holding him down, which you're not supposed to do because you can cause injuries to the person having a seizure). Shadowsight was also tempted by a dark force (Ashfur), but he managed to redeem himself and use his connection with Ashfur to help the other Lights In The Mists find and defeat the villain. While the reason for his lack of a connection with StarClan is a bummer, it's kinda nice to see another medicine cat with no StarClan connection who's still at least decent at their job. However, even though I like Shadowsight a lot, I'd only give him a C rank here. From what we've seen of Shadowsight so far, he's not a great medicine cat. At least decent, yes, but I wouldn't say great (like Mothwing, Jayfeather, and Leafpool) at this time.
@@Spottedstorm27 that sounds sick lol, she's been my fav ever since I found out about the series (I watched a lot of spoilers before actually reading the books sadly)
The thing with Cinderpelt is that in Exile in ShadowClan Volepaw’s leg got mauled by rats and won’t ever work again. Cinderpelt’s case is almost the same, yet Volepaw got to be a warrior again. Nightpelt(star) told Volepaw when Volepaw refused to hunt “Your leg won’t stop you”. We see him bringing back prey as well so he is capable. Warriors logic there.
In my opinion, on the topic of Mothwing and Shadowsight, I both agree and disagree with you. Shadowsight is one of my favorite characters in the whole series, just trying to help everyone, but to no avail because they don’t trust him. He also has the idea of constantly wanting approval, as he is Tigerstar(2)’s son and the clan believes he gets everything handed to him, despite him working hard to try and keep everybody safe. I also think Mothwing’s character was ruined for me in the broken code. As she constantly got at Shadowsight, ripping him from his role that he’d been working his whole life towards. Though she had a reason to do so, Shadowsight had been manipulated into thinking Ashfur was StarClan from a young age, and once again, took the chance to prove himself by saving Bramblestar. I adore Mothwing in every other arc and book, but the way she acted in the broken code really shoved me the wrong way.
Good video, Akira! I agreed with a lot of your ratings. Not all, but you explained your opinions quite well and I respect them! :) Also, I was thoroughly entertained
Something about Cinderpelt that I believe more people should take into account. You could argue, “but deadfoot was the deputy of windclan!” He was. But his foot was twisted, Cinderpelt’s leg was crushed by a rapidly moving 1 ton car. And another thing, Deadfoot’s injury was his front paw, a paw he depends on sure, but not for everything. Cinderpelt’s injury was her back leg which is the one cats use to balance themselves, leap, and jump. As a warrior you need to be balanced, you need to leap and pounce to catch your prey. And one final point, she wasn’t forced into being a medicine cat. She wouldn’t ever be warrior, its true, but what people forget is she could’ve gone to the elder’s den like Nightshade. But she didn’t. She truly enjoyed helping Yellowfang with herbs, and (if I’m remembering well) was really excited to go to mother mouth to become a medicine cat apprentice!
I think a lot of the medicine cats are super special in their own ways, yellowfang was such a cool concept, I wish we could’ve seen her power used more
I think I’m the only person in the warrior cats fandom…. to… not…. Like….. Mothwing o.o I’ve just never been interested in her and what she did to Shadowsight in the broken code really lowered my likeness toward her
Moth Flight's Vision is my favorite Super Edition, but her decision to make that rule about medicine cats not being able to have a mate or kits is the stupidest one in the Warrior Code.
There is a character who wanted to be a medicine cat but they were forced to be warrior? I don't remember, but I think would be more interesting than "cat wants to be a warrior but disability and Starclan said no"
@@elizabethwaterman7793 yeah, but I think is different because she understood that being a medicine cat wasn't for her and decided to become a warrior. I'm talking of a cat wanting to become a medicine cat because, for example they don't like violence and prefers helping by healing their clanmates, but because of harsh times, they are forced to train as a warrior
love the video< btw can you do a video on the new updated warriors guid because i got it at barns and nobles today and there are so manny mistakes, for example there are manny spelling mistakes: "he rise of scorg" also it said that rock< yes rock the underground cranky old cat had a mentor who was LEAFSTAR! idk if this was just a strange copy r something but it would be cool if you could make a video on it< bur not pressure really lmao, i know the books are expensive TwT
I love runningnose. He's a sweet cat who watched his best friend and littermate fall to be a terrible cat and have such horrid intent in the end. Brokenstar and him were buddies and it's rare to see that dynamic in warrior cats. I'm sad there was such little of him featured in the books.
I’m sorry but read yellowfangs secrets they were not friends, and runningkit mostly just did not participate in bullying him after being scolded by yellowfang but his littermates continued to.
I’m sorry but Shadowsight is just great. He was my favorite character in the broken code arc, and felt like a character with actual problems to overcome. We also don’t usually have a cat get battered and put down over and over and suffer so consistently over an arc, so that was good. Him not getting a happy ending ending was also good, and I personally got the impression that a medicine cat was supposed to be born is a certain level of a starclan connection, and that’s why they were always super hesitant to take apprentices, so I don’t get your point there. I honestly really enjoyed his character and would put him into A tier.
Imo: Kestrelflight should be bumped up one tier for how much he specifically pisses Jayfeather off more than any other MC. There's no reason for it, I love it sm.
I respectfully diagree with Willowshine and Safewhisker. She was not only there because of the need of an actual medicine cat. She was a great cat for the plot. Sagewhisker was also a caring cat only wanting the best for the clan. She cared for Yellowfang a lot and apologizes to Yellowfang for the trouble she costed her after joining StarClan in the epilogue.
my main disagreement for this video is shadowsight ngl, if alderheart gets a tier for being anxious then shadowsight should not be in f for "not being unique"
Alderheart came first so he gets a lot of credit for that. And I feel like Alderheart has more character beyond just being anxious than Shadowsight does. And Shadowsight's anxiousness was used more to work Ashfur into the plot than it was used to make Shadowsight interesting as a character. Of course you're welcome to disagree, just wanted to explain myself.
@@BrightGuardianAkira i get it, anxious wasn't ever used as a trait other than ravenpaw before alderheart and shadowsight (i havent read up to frostpaw yet) and now it feels like its being overused. i just think that shadowsight shouldn't get as much hate as he does
7:21 I argue this a lot, but featherwhisker is one of my favorite bluestar’s prophecy characters. he was put up to a lot of responsibility, leading ThunderClan medicinally through Riverclan+ThunderClan battles, etc etc while having a slack-off-crazy mentor (still love goose a lot tho!). he’s also just a overly sweet cat, who feels less judge mental then most cats. he helps bluekit and snowkit not get themselves into wacky trouble. he was just a kind and lighthearted cat. although he may not be the most interesting, I really want a book from featherwhisker with his POV to show his perspective and stress, while growing to hurdle these challenges.
He also sat through leopardfoots year long birth while his mentor slacked off. The way he died was heroic too. When thunderclan had greencough he refused to rest and died from it. I was supposed he didn't get more book time.
@@YaraSmith-dy9yl seriously! he’s awesome! I wish he’d get a novella or even a super edition since I feel like he’ll really show what it’s like to be under pressure in dire situations! gotta love him!
I think one of the few things that makes Barkface stand out is that he is (I believe) the second longest-lived cat after Mistystar (He is older than Tallstar and made it all the way through The Power of Three). Even if he didn't do much, he was kind of a staple of the series. I also enjoyed that he chose to be a medicine cat, and was supportive of Talltail in his Super Edition.
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i actually really do like Spotredleaf, she was a comfort character when i was a kid so i’m a bit more biased. the whole Firestar x Spottedleaf retcon was so unnecessary though.
How? Alderheart was born moons after the Great Battle, so it can't have been like the Cinderpelt Becoming Cinderheart thing, And honestly there was no reason for her to become part of one of Squirrelflight and Bramblestar's kits. It's just highly improbable.
I agree with most of these but the issue I'm having is that Akira didn't include the time Brambleberry basically saved the clans during the end of the fourth arc.
I love moth flight but i think its only bc of how i see the story. I change how the story goes in my mind bc its better. Poor gal just needed help and wasnt great at making big decisions due to this:(( i could go on a whole rant about how she reminds me being raised as a non diagnosed kid with adhd and autism. It makes it just that much more sad to me
Not a bad tier list. It looks good and everyone has their own opinions. You should do leaders next to make it more interesting. Everyone has their own favorite leaders. You don't have to do all of them, but that's up to you.
Definitely. As recently as we seen him he's just kinda threatening. He kind of helps nightheart see he should temporarily leave the clan because they're the most alike of thunderclan cats, but other than that he's just kind of an ass who intimidates frostpaw.
I actually like mudfur. His decision to want to heal and not fight was inspiring and unique. He was a good father to Leopardstar and he was a good mentor to Mothwing in my opinion.
