Crazy thing is that it’s just common sense to not let cell transform and get stronger😭Vegeta is just an idiot, along with everyone else, even gohan, since if it wasn’t for his cockiness he could’ve killed cell and buu before they did more damage
He comes from a future where they don't have the luxury of letting the bad guys get stronger lol. When your future is so dismal, it leads to a tendency to not fuck around apparently.
Truer words have never been spoken. He really was the smartest. Like the time Cell told Goku he could eat a senzu bean to continue the fight, he pleaded with everyone to do it and every body just looked at him crazy 😂
I didn't know that 😮 wow. I've watched that fight so many times too, rare anime W! Did the manga still have Goku threaten the Kai and "not to you Gohan but to a warrior it matters greatly"?😂🎉
@@LowTierScrub yeah Everything is almost the same The starting of the fight is also the same but Toriyama mainly focused on Gohan and S Kai in babidi's ship and the whole fight between them was occurred off screen When the manga returns their focus on them ( Goku and Vegeta) they're both exhausted and battle damaged
@@swastikbiswas2121 thanks 🙏 Its crazy that majiin Vegeta v Goku, Base Vegito V Buuhan and Goku V Kefla were all anime only. They're genuinely my favourite fights as well so the fact none of them are in manga... Gohan V Cell/Trunks V Frieza probably round that list off 😂💪
I got to say it’s a missed opportunity to instead of making it the “s+ rank” you should have made it the Z rank that would have been a nice touch. But other wise this duo of videos have been great I’ve really enjoyed them and I’m considering being your 724th sub (or whatever sub count ur at when I probably do sub)
@@KeyReviewsOfficial ur hopes have been fulfilled as now I am joining the community and I hope to see more great content from you 🤝(also I forgot to say in the original comment but i like ur animated character in this video it’s simple but nice to look at)
@@KeyReviewsOfficial yeah it does especially with these tier list videos bc it gives something more to look at rather than just the still image of the tier list and like i said before the character design is nice too
I gotta say… watching these clips is making me realize how essential Bruce Faulconer’s music was in creating the amazing experience I had with dbz as a kid
Kinda surprised you haven't mentioned Cell returning from literally nothing in one of the worst asspulls in the entire series, which in my opinion SEVERELY sours the experience of the fight.
When I was watching the fight I wasn't really thinking about it, I just wanted Gohan to get his revenge 😂 but I can see that. A lot of times the characters learn techniques from seeing it once so at least its consistent.
@@alicepbg2042 he literaly exploded in different dimension into millions of pieces and somehow returned but now with the Android he was forced to throw up. Buddy. No matter how much you twist it it IS an asspull. Do you think if Lizard from Spider-Man would suddenly regenerate from atomic blast and turned into godzilla that wouldn't be quite far-fetched? It's his regeneration but now it's slightly better!
@@HellGrimo the bomb made him explode, but the core happened to survive. Either by chance or because the core was made in a way that would survive the self destruct bomb. Also... cell can teleport just like goku. Why would he not be able to return? He got stronger because he got a zenkai boost.
Fun fact about the Final Flash: Toriyama himself stated it was the strongest attack in the entire Cell Saga. If Cell didn't dodge, the saga would have ended right there.
Awesome list man, I found myself pretty much fully agreeing with your choices. I’m bummed you didn’t add trunks going back to the future to fight the androids and cell, and future gohan vs the androids, but great content man, I very much enjoyed it.
I strongly disagree with the Piccolo vs Cell placement. I'll admit before I say this. It was the first DBZ thing I ever saw in 4th Grade on my portable DVD player, so nostalgia plays a bit into this. Seeing that horrific scene of Cell absorbing that man and the contorting of his face, I'd count that as part of the fight honestly. It was psychologically back taking. Cell powering up with his theme, and the terror and confusion Piccolo expressed really kicked Cell's intro so well. Then Piccolo clapping back and charging IMO one of the best looking and animated attacks in the series. Cells showcasing all the different Z-Fighter moves, absorbing Piccolo's arm, and Piccolo being deceptive in 2 ways, and Cell being able to measure his cards and the opposing hand; leaving the fight and keeping himself hidden until the right moment like he's been doing for 3+ years at that point. Yes, I'm going to disagree with you that there is no way you can put that fight in C-Tier *AT LEAST*
The Trunks introduction is still among my favorite introductions to a character. It definely states "yeah that old s*** dont matter anymore. What's coming up is going blow that away."
Honestly I mightve been a little too harsh on it but personally it wasn't crazy to me. It seemed more like a build up to vegetas fight and to showcase his growth
Piccolo vs 17 is probably my favorite fight in whole series. They were evenly matched (rare in dragonball) and it's hard to say who would've won in the end if Cell hadn't shown up. Piccolo stil woud've been screwed tho cause I doubt 18 would've just let him go after he killed her brother.
One great thing about the cell second form vs vegeta fight is the way Cell uses Vegetas arrogance to win. Cell won with his wits knowing that vegeta would let him transform which boosts it for me because of how smart cell was
Another thing-it’s really unfortunate that the buu saga was so bad. The fights itself were generally really good. There was just little no direction, it felt extremely jumbled and every battle there was a different “strongest” fighter as so many different fighters became strong in such a short period just to be eaten by buu-which is also a lame technique
0:51 I hear you on the super saiyan haircut styles trunks is 2nd place to me and 1st place though only appeared in the movie history of trunks is Future Gohan to me.
Great video dude and great content altogether...but you should've made the S+ into something like Z rank maybe when you do DBS you could change S+ into Super btw you definitely earned a new sub!!
One of my favorites that isn't on this list: Buuhan vs Goku & Vegeta before they fuse. Only like 2-3 minutes long but I absolutely loved it. Great videos man
I just got done watching both parts and tbh your rankings are pretty much identical to mine's. I would personally just put Buu vs Gohan in F tier, and Vegeta and Trunks vs Cell in C tier. Maybe I would move down Goku vs Freeza in the A tier too. I know it's an iconic fight and all, but I will never get over Goku's ridiculous zenkai boost here, and the anime padded the fight out with so much filler it became really tiring to watch after awhile, thankfully Kai fixed that issue.
First, GREAT video (please do DB Super), but second, I absolutely love how you and other channels are talking about TeamFourStar as almost like another version of DBZ, up there up there with Kai
good vid, i was surprised to not see Goku vs Trunks though, when Goku tried him with 1 finger and called his bluff it rlly showcased his fighting ability beyond just brawn
@@KeyReviewsOfficial that’s right sorry i forgot, i been enjoying the dbz content n hopefully there’s a vid for the small scuffles one day, keep up the work you earned a new sub bro
Vegeta’s finisher against Pui Pui and his line about “Not even feeling it” when talking about the gravity amps it to B tier for me. Also putting Trunks vs Frieza over Vegito is a crime against humanity, it’s not a bad fight but Vegito is one of the best beat downs in anime history.
I disagree with the Final Flash fight with Cell. If Cell didn't dodge at the last second, Vegeta would have killed him. I think both Trunks' fight and Vegeta's fight with Cell should be B or A tier together. Cell even said that Vegeta knew that he would lose speed by taking the bulky form.
I don't think the final flash would've killed him. A far stronger Goku shot a kamehameha point blank at him, Gohan ssj2 shot a kamehameha at him as well, and he survived his own self destruction.
@@KeyReviewsOfficial The reason he would have died was because the Final Flash was the most powerful attack in the whole Cell saga. Cell was too damn cocky. He took a page out of Vegeta's book. The area that hit him was completely eradicated. If Vegeta hit him fully, it would have ended much differently, which is why he dodged at the last second. Why do you think he actually said "OH SHIT". He didn't doubt Goku's strength, which is why he was going full tilt. Its the same with the fight with Gohan, but Gohan was simply toying with Cell. Also if you look at both the Final Flash's attack vs the Father Son Kamehameha, it becomes fairly easy to tell which attack was actually more powerful.
@phoenixDARKprince I think cell suppressed as he was would have died as well. I take vegetas final flash as being similar to piccolo's special beam cannon. If we go back to the sayain saga, piccolo is just around 400, but when he charges the special beam cannon, raditz reads him at over 1400. So piccolos technique worked at almost a 4x multiplier. Vegeta at ssj grade 2 might have been weaker than goku mastered ssj, but the final flash might also be a 4x multiplier. But how raditz was afraid of piccolos attack, cell should have been afraid of vegetas attack. The point raditz makes is that he cannot tank the attack. He either has to dodge it or they go through a beam struggle. And I fully agree, that at the last minute, cell realized he couldn't tank the final flash. He either had to dodge or generate enough energy to create the beam struggle ( which if he charged on up while vegeta was charging his, cell would have won...easily). But cell choose dodge. In my opinion, cell was maybe at 30% of max toying with vegeta and then vegeta puts out final flash. If cell wanted to tank it, he would have to be full strength. Or if cell wanted to beam struggle, he might have needed time to get to like 70 or 80 percent max.
@@danielsilva-ds2u COMPLETELY AGREE! I think that if Cell didn't let his arrogance get ahead of him that he would have been able to do something about it, easily. I did like the fact that Cell commended Vegeta's experience and intelligence after he fought Trunks. Both Vegeta and Goku could go into that form, but they knew that it had a huge disadvantage.
@@phoenixDARKprince meh, I wouldn't knock trunks for deciding to go ssj grade 3. Yes he wasn't aware of the drawbacks, but he wasn't exactly far from vegeta either way. Even vegeta admits that their power is close. Ssj grade 3 was overall useless. And all the grades were just a way to concentrate the ki into their body...at the expense of bulk. They were just stepping stones to the mastered ssj. Once ssj is mastered then you have the potential to reach ssj2 and get that 2x multiplier off mastered ssj. We don't even know if vegeta could do ssj grade 3. Cell just assumed that he could because all that it comes to is ki concentration. It's hardly a transformation. But I do believe vegeta could use ssj grade 3 and definitely goku could too, but both started to see that what appears to be transformation is actually just taking energy you already have to bulk up strength at the cost of stamina. This leads to mastered ssj which keeps stamina but still utilizes strength....and that's the best you can do as a super saiyan. The next jump is ssj2. Vegeta may have knew the 1st part, bit he didn't know to master ssj so he hit a brick wall. Trunk had no idea for sure.
No way Goku vs Android 19 is in C Tier and Vegeta vs Android 19 is an A. Vegeta's transformation is the only thing that makes that "fight" notable, otherwise it's just a slaughter. Whereas Goku vs 19 has the hype, the anticipation, the choreography, and the stakes steadily get higher and higher once we as the audience see Goku getting progressively tired while 19 is relatively unfazed, up until he makes the fatal mistake of firing off a Kamehameha. Goku gets so desperate he even tries firing ANOTHER one because he knows there's nothing else he can do but has to stop himself because if he does it again, it's over. Then to see 19 pop off on our hero? Everybody had anxiety watching 19 drain Goku's energy. This is a WAYYYY better fight than Vegeta vs 19, which was really only a few exchanges and some classic Vegeta dialogue lol
I think I was a little too harsh on it but personally it wasn't crazy to me. It seemed more like it was building up to Goku's defeat and vegeta's big moment. Thats how I saw it but if I could redo it I think I would rank it higher tbh
I love the Gotenks fights, I watched them so many times as a kid. The inventiveness of the attacks always contrasted in an interesting way to the rest of the series for me, and Piccolo's frustration really lands because it's evident that Gotenks is at least somewhat stronger than Super Buu.
I think the trunks fight is better. First we see another super saiyan and fights the strongest villain so far in the series and his dad. Both are really good but I think the trunks fight holds a bit more weight
@@KeyReviewsOfficial Maybe i just got a bias since i like Vegeta so much as a caracter, but i really do like trunks and frieza is my favorite vilain in the serie, but the fight is so short, and yea all the mistery surrounding the fact another SSJ appear and seeing him defeat frieza so easily was pretty shocking but i just love every quote from vegeta, the way he appear to save goku when you start to think the all Z squad is fuck, his tranformation is so epic, his back story about how he got the form, how he dominates 19 and look so badass for once, or maybe its just because the fight is longer idk but i really prefer that vegeta fight over trunks, its just to me Trunks vs frieza wasnt much of a fight, Frieza throw a few ki blast at trunks doing nothing to him and then boom trunks cut frieza to pieces and blast him, at the end its just my point of view and it doesnt value more then yours
Im back. Got some popcorn and my couch foot rest is up. What kinds of other vids do you think youll be making (since there's only so many fights to rank in DB and you ran through all of DBZ already)
@KeyReviewsOfficial same. After I finish up the vegeta vs goku fight (pre oozaru) I think I'm going to start mixing in jjkaisen. I've watched NOTHING so I'll get a rare chance to go in fresh
I can't disagree with any of these, except for 1. At most, I found myself saying "I'd throw that one rank up/down" but that's it. Except for Gotenks. I loved that SSJ/3 Gotenks vs Buu. We actually got to see something new from him. DBZ is fantastic but one of the things Dragon Ball does better is the techniques we see. DBZ was more beams and balls. But Gotenks showed up the Ghost Kamekaze Attack, which was just fantastic and kind of hearkened back to the weird funny stuff we'd see in the original DB series.
Hot take : Gohan vs Cell wasn't as good , wasn't as competitive before and after the transformation , the fight stopped halfway, on top of that the pacing isn't as good , the fight aspect wasn't good but it provided iconic scenes which is kinda the same with Goku vs Freeza, the competitiveness of the fight lied in the climax in which I consider that Kamehameha exchange to be the redeeming quality of the fight . Goku vs Cell was the much better fight cuz it had it all , stellar animation , actual hand to hand combat which we don't see much often in the series , high stakes , crazy maneuvers , extremely competitive, well paced , I think it's rather easy to consider Goku vs Cell as the best fight of the Android saga.
Trunks vs Frieza and king Cold C tier Goku vs 19 C tier Vegeta vs 19 A tier Piccolo 20 F tier Vegeta vs 18 A tier Piccolo vs cell F tier Piccolo vs 17 S tier Cell vs 16 A tier Cell vs Vegeta S tier Vegeta vs P cell C tier Trunks vs P cell A tier Goku vs P cell S+ tier Gohan vs P cell C tier Trunks vs goten S tier Vegeta vs pui C tier Goku vs yakkon F tier Gohan vs dabura A tier Vegeta vs Goku S+ GOKU VS fat buu C tier Vegeta vs fat buu A tier Gohan vs buu C tier Vegito vs buuhan C tier Goku vs buu A tier
