I don't know why but "adoring but liberated" sounds like the most aggressively condescending way to describe pretty much anyone or anything... and it doesn't even mean anything.
I personally always assumed it meant she's a feminist, but one of those feminists who chooses to adhere to stereotypical gender norms. (Feminism is about choice, after all. So it makes sense some feminists would choose to be a traditional homemaker.)
I’m honestly loving it’s evolution as a genre on this platform. It’s like porn but specifically for the feeling of nostalgic catharsis intertwined with the gratification of hyper fixation.
In terms of movies, you are indeed correct. But if we are talking about the entire franchise I must insist that Mystery Incorporated is the best thing produced.
Scooby doo on Zombie Island punched me in the face, knocked two of my teeth out, stole my lunch money, and gave me nightmares and I thanked it for doing so. It's literally the best All-ages Halloween movie, nothing else even comes close.
Us kids on the cusp of late 90s and early 2000s were so lucky, I'm so glad I grew up in that era. Zombie Island was the best, and always will be the best Scooby Doo film. Yes, better than the live action ones too. It had that charm of the original, while completely making things fresher. Having the zombies ACTUALLY be zombie, and not some guy in a mask was such a shocking concept for a Scooby Doo film. Still have my VHS copy lol
I loved the hex girls so much as a kid that i made thorne my screensaver for my account on the family computer at one point. honestly that's very telling for how I've turned out as an adult
On the subject of Scooby-Doo Mystery Incorporated: keep in mind that it was 2013, Rebecca Sugar had to risk her entire career for a canon lesbian couple, Adventure Time wasn't allowed to canonize Marceline and Princess Bubblegum, and having gay characters was harder in general Also, was incredibly obvious and intentional in the show itself that Velma was meant to be a lesbian. Think that episode of Courage the Cowardly Dog where courage helps two female "best friends" escape an abusive man so they can be together I think that we should acknowledge the many times people have tried to give us representation and weren't allowed to, but did their best anyway. They were important milestones to having representation today
@@zoeelizabweth I've heard that before, something about James Gunn intending for the story to be rated R originally I want to exist in a world where both the rated R version and this one exist together
And even when Rebecca did go full out with a lesbian wedding, her show got cancelled by Cartoon Network for that. Even Adventure Time was only able to have Marceline and Princess Bubblegum kiss in their last episode. Keep in mind, both of these happened as recently as 2018, and they still came with consequences.
I'm sure you're sick of watching Scooby Doo media now but I STRONGLY recommend Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated! Outside of the weird relationship of Velma and Shaggy that only exists for like halfway through season 1, it's an all around incredibly enjoyable show. It has excellent one off mysteries as well as a really intriguing overall mystery! It's also one of the only kids cartoons I see intentionally have a pretty dark ending for the series.
Also not to defend shows that do not have canon LGBT representation but I was watching it while it was airing and honestly I really commend them for "getting away" with what they could on that front. Velma and Hot Dog Water are basically more lesbian than any cartoon airing at that time.
even as someone who grew up on where are you and what’s new, i have to say that mystery inc was my favorite version. the darker tone and more serialized storylines made it more interesting to me.
yes! the finale was even a little unsettling for me, and i’m older than the target demographic haha. velma and shaggy weren’t good together, but it was interesting to see the writers show different group dynamics, also with more depth in daphne and fred’s relationship. and yeah, not to blame it on the time, but LGBT representation was hard to get by with at the time. it felt like scooby doo, but it didn’t follow the exact same formula in each episode. the characters have more personal exploration and it’s really interesting to watch! would recommend!
@@thefamouscommenter oh fr! while not said outloud the lesbian coding for Velma throughout the series shines like a billboard from her failed relationship with Shaggy, the mermaid episode and literally every interaction with HDW especially the finale
as a die-hard scooby doo fan, I didn't realize how many movies there were. What made me even more surprised though was the fact that the only movie I haven't seen is the Hollywood Lego movie.
Honestly the writers at Cartoon Network had absolutly no reason to go so hard on Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated...but they did anyway. Still my personal favorite version of the Scooby Doo gang to date.
NOOO the "what's new scoobie doo" theme song was the code to reawakening the soviet superspy assassin dormant in my psyche and now I must follow through on the homicidal orders of my defunct handler.
Ironically the original live action movie was going to be a parody. Some of it is still in the movie, with shaggy and Scooby doo in the mystery machine cooking, but panning it to show it look like their smoking it up while “Pass the Dutchie” by Musical Youth plays over it; that song obviously about passing a joint around. It’s quite interesting and makes sense why all the actors reprised vocal roles for Robot Chicken parodies as well.
At the risk of writing an essay, as someone who is a giant fan of 2010’s mystery incorporated, what I appreciate about the Velma and Shaggy relationship there is that it demonstrates Velma’s character flaws really well (something that she doesn’t really have in any iteration). It’s kind of obvious that neither Velma or Shaggy actually like each other, they just figured they might as well start dating because that something high schoolers are told to do. And it’s a pretty toxic relationship on both fronts: shaggy doesn’t pay attention to velma’s needs and chooses scooby over her, Velma doesn’t understand shaggy and is constantly trying to fix him (making him dress differently, using a rubber band on him whenever he said “like,” ect.). And when the relationship dissolves, it causes the both of them to reconsider their part in that and they still manage to be friends in the later seasons. I definitely agree with you on the lesbian Velma stuff but it was an animated show released in 2011, I wouldn’t be surprised if the writers were forbidden from making the relationship canon on screen. And I would also really recommend it since you’re such a fan of Daphne, she’s incredible in the show.
Love love LOVE mystery inc!!! I so wish people talked about it more, because it’s such a great show and exploration of the gang’s dynamic and characters
I was about to say the exact same! Cartoons in 2011 were very different from today. Like, regardless of any flaws in any shows, Korrassami crawled so Catradora could run, and Korrassami could barely do that in 2015, but it still managed to be the very first confirmed canon gay couple onscreen. Even Catradora faced serious backpush from the execs, and the creator admitted to breaking down crying the moment she was allowed to portray them kissing onscreen. Besides, here's the thing: in countries where gay couples are censored, these under the radar gay moments are so important for the people who do pick up on it. Sometimes it's best to keep this under the radar so, in the future, these kids who needed to see this will have actually not felt so othered since forever, they'll see themselves. So, yeah, Hot Dog Water and Velma couldn't be canon onscreen, but they're still canon
I swear leather Velma and Thorn from Hex Girls made me the bisexual mess I am. Oh and I love Monsters Unleashed because I played and still have the Nintendo game boy sp game of the movie
"Too Elena Gilbert for my taste" - OH NO THE SPILL WAS REAL. Now I cannot wait for Julia to drag Vampire Diaries for 1 hour. Do it Julia we deserve it.
hearing julia say ‘scooby gang’ and seeing sarah michelle gellar in the live action movie portion ...... is making me yearn to hear julia’s take on buffy the vampire slayer, aka the best vampire media to ever exist
In my mind Daphne isn’t “the empath” but she is the the diplomat. Like she doesn’t genuinely care that much more about people than the rest of the gang, but she definitely knows how to play other people like a fiddle.
We empaths don't nescesarily care about the other person's feelings more than anyone else. We just can't stop ourselves from putting ourselves in the persons shoes.
I have to hate Scoob! purely because they took off the original VAs and they only found out when the movie was announced, Matt Lillard was chosen by Casey Kasem and has been Shaggy ever since until Scoob! One of the best Daphne portrayals is the live action where shes kickass and Mystery Incorporated where her being a "fashionista" also lends to her being able to figure out mysteries with her knowledge of the fabrics and textile science.
The Emma roberts movie is the ultimate. Love it, and its a good drinking game if you’re of age and still watching Nancy Drew. Take a shot everytime they say some fort of “sleuth” and you’ll marvel at how the pacing matches your buzz
I think the universe is encouraging my weird new fixation of scooby doo. I watch the show, movies, or reviews (most by billiam) when I'm eating in my dorm room. Now, Julia is making a video. This is absolutely splendid!
Okay so for the last three years I’ve been listening to a podcast called “Scooby Do’s or Scooby Don’ts” which discusses every tv episode, film, short and game of scooby doo in chronological order, so you could say I’m a fan, and I can help answer your Bill Nye wonderings :p at the end the tv series scooby doo mystery incorporated, they create a different reality and Bill Nye appears via hologram to ask them to come to his lab and work out the science. It another way the three films try to establish a continuity with past iterations. You know, that still doesn’t really answer why him does it?
@@fellihoijer4395 HELL YEAH!!! Daphne’s my waifu! (Well one of them, for those who are wondering the others include but are not limited to; Emma Swan Drizella from Once Upon A Time, Poison Ivy, Katara, Gwen from Ben 10, and Rapunzel.) As of my reasons for those women in particular; When it comes to female characters I’m always when they go all the way a specific character trait, make the girl in question either super caring and sweet or make her an absolute BITCH and have them completely blunt about it, or even make them polite and down to earth. In the case of Poison Ivy however, I figure if you really want marry someone like her then the best way to do that is to really get to know her and show REAL love and companionship in a similar fashion to Harley would but just in a more honest way so that way one could TRULY emphasize with her, (well at the very least I think that’s the most logical method to to win over someone like her). Of course, only the PUREST of DC fans will know what I mean in regards to their dyamic, (especially because not EVERY incarnation depicts their bond as romantic and treats them more like beasties or even sisters when you really get down to it). Also, I swear to god I’m NOT racist, therefore, if any Japanese people get offended by the use of such a term then I apologize in advance.
Scooby Doo and the Witch's Ghost was probably the first kid's movie to talk about what Wicca is in a positive light, even if it got a lot of facts wrong. It's still a bit rare to see how any piece of media tries to portray Wiccans or good witches or related characters like the Hex Girls as normal compared to the usual stereotypes they get by Hollywood.
Still watching, but got to the “is Fred a hunk” part and, naturally, said OF COURSE immediately. But then that ascot-wearing blonde Rambo trap scene made me clench my pearls and start speaking like a southern belle, “I’m getting the vapors!.” What a man! Irl I don’t even prefer blonde men generally but Fred is just too lovable of a dumb dumb.
While I love Mystery Incorporated and personally think its the best Scooby Doo thing alongside the 4 "Zombie Island" era movies and (to a certain extent) the OG 60's show, you are *100%* correct that Shaggy x Velma is *the worst thing ever imagined by a human.* very, VERY cringe.
Pretty sure I can honestly point to the Hex Girls in Witch's Ghost as one of the things that made me gay. Like damn Thorn you really did cast a spell on me, huh?
Tim Curry absolutely loves Scooby Doo so much, that he wanted to be in the very first ever live action Scooby Doo Movie, but there was one problem. Scrappy Doo was also in it and like many other die hard SD Fan, he too hated Scrappy, so he dropped out😐
This was great I didn’t know that this trip down scooby doo memory lane would be so satisfying because I did know know I watched that many scooby doo movies as a kid. I had Cyber Chase on VHS and Virus creeped the shit out of me as a kid lol
I was prepared to rage knowing that Ghoul School would not be ranked well, but I thank you for your thoughtful analysis. But honestly, just imagine watching those ghoulish girls as an 8 year old who thinks she’s a witch and you will understand why it will always be my #1🧟♀️ 👯♀️👻
This is basically unrelated because I haven't watched the full video yet to know what the 3/3 snacks are yet, but just putting this out there that apparently the What's New Scooby-doo theme song was done by Simple Plan. If this isn't your favorite Simple Plan song, you are simply lying to yourselves!
My problem with Zombie Island is that I hate horror movies and being scared and this movie gave kid me nightmares. The appeal of Scooby Doo to me was that the monsters were never real, so making them real scared the crap out of me. That being said, the Hex Girls were definitely part of my bi awakening.
They've had real monsters sprinkled in since the first season of Scooby Doo. They have a legit floating candle that's unrelated to the monster so the audience knows the mysteries could always be real. We also had Boo Brothers, Reluctant Werewolf, and Ghoul School as movies, with the 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo. All of which came out before Zombie Island.
Yeah it's airing on the CW but I don't think it's being made by the CW so I think they might of dodged a bullet there but yeah why is it airing on the CW? Is it going to be more adult? Are the gang going to swear or something like that? I don't know I guess we will have to wait and see.
curse of the lake monster was my favorite movie at the age of 7. me and my twin sister would rent the dvd (yes, the good old days where we didn't know piracy) every week on wednesdays because it was when it was on sale and watch it every single day. i thought the ending was brilliant and loved shaggy and velma (yikes now lol). i rewatched it recently and was so disappointed lol but at least i have fond memories
You know if I'm being 100% honest outside of the two original live actions, the first live-action one with Hayley Kiyoko, and cyber chase, I don't remember watching a single Scooby-Doo movie. I think maybe I saw the last couple minutes of Where's My Mummy but even then I'm not sure. I'm more of a tv series type. Specifically What's New Scooby-Doo and Mystery Incorporated.
@@Tjax514 And the invention of Thorn. I'm pretty sure she was the "Not straight" awakening of a lot of female fans of the series and movies including myself
fun fact mystery incorporated was the first version of scooby doo i ever saw i was born in 2005 so that’s why. I’m glad it’s objectively good because i think it’s the best because of nostalgia but i love other people love scooby doo mystery incorporated.
mystery inc is the scooby show i grew up with, and the episode where daphne goes on stage with the hex girls and sings a girlboss song about fred in front of him called “trap of love” is literally so iconic. the show was funny and really insane and really dark and i do rec it to anyone who likes scooby doo but hasn’t seen it. it’s amazing and fred is the best character. genuinely absolutely amazing how they turned the like.. infamously most boring character into the funniest. it’s got overarching plots with real stakes, and the characters really feel like teenagers
i literally love ur huge deep-dive videos😭😭 it feels like hanging out w a funny, dry, cool friend w perspectives that are similar to mine but JUUUST different enough to be interesting. plus i love the way ur generally objective and fair w your opinions but still acknowledge & embrace that everyone does have bias (i mean i love ur shorter videos too idk why im making it sound like i prefer the long ones i just love all of them lol)
As a die-hard Scooby fan since childhood, I love this, your opinions are SO right. However, I am very sad you didn't review the crossover with Supernatural. It truly is something to see.
THERE'S A CONCLUSION TO 13 GHOSTS????? that was my favourite scooby show (and most ppl haven't even heard of it !) and i've always been mad that it wasn't finished and THERE'S A CONTINUATION???? thank you for bringing this to my attention my 10yo past self is screaming very loud rn >:O
Following the horrors of the Velma show, I’m rewatching a variety of Scooby doo content, especially from people I can tell like the IP. ( something I don’t think can be said about the creators of Velma) I’ve watched this ranking a few times before this but just wanted to say thank you for the care and fun you have had with this video!
This video made me feel so nostalgic. My personal favourites were always Scooby-Doo and the Witch's Ghost, Scooby-Doo and the Legend of the Vampire and Scooby-Doo and the Ghoul School. Whenever my parents asked what I wanted to watch it'd always be one of these three 🥰 I remember Camp Scare quite fondly too! Edit: I meant the Vampire musical film not the legend of the vampire! Similar titles xD
Scoob did have one redeeming quality. It gave us one of the funniest jokes of all time Velma: “we’re going to make Mystery Inc into a real business.” Shaggy: “what you mean like wear a tie and and and carry a briefcase and pay taxes?” Daphne: “wait have you not been paying your taxes?”
My top 3 Scooby-Doo doo movies were always: 3. Aloha Scooby-Doo 2. Alien Invaders 1. Zombie Island (I mean whag else would be number 1 to someone who LOVES Scooby-Doo like me)
I didn't even realize how long this video was when I clicked on it, I just saw that Julia did a movie review and instinctively clicked. I am happily surprised! ❤️
i owned the ghoul school dvd as a kid so i watched it constantly and thought it was the best thing ever because the ghouls were so cool, and i rewatched it recently with my sister in english for the first time and wow, the amount of puns is genuinely impressive, like, one every 2 sentences, i was surprised they managed to do so much lmao. also how did i never realize isla fisher was mary jane??? i thought hannah montana was unrealistic, but i truly only recognize her with red hair, i would've been fooled by hannah montana too! also, honestly, i know EXACTLY how a cw version of scooby doo would go, i jokingly wrote an idea for it based on this trailer on youtube called mystery inc. which basically does that, reimagine scooby doo but with a riverdale treatment, (and i think it was like legitimate, but idk) but i am actually terrified it might happen, i pray to god that it doesn't every day
It’s 4:53am, I’ve been up for almost 24 hours, and you have ranked two of my favorite Scooby Doo Films in dead last. I can’t handle this if Ghoul School is let first place. Also I love your videos and you’re amazing and I’m following :)
I agree with some other comments I’ve seen, maybe it’s being generous, but I think Velma and Marcie not being shown as romantic on-screen was because of how hard it used to be (and still is I think, but less) to get that past the people at the top that can just say no. I might be wrong, but I thought I remember hearing Alex Hirsch struggled to even get a confirmed gay moment with two characters in the last episode of the show, in 2016, years after Mystery Inc.
you aren't wrong, there's storyboards of the original concept if i remember right. they had two male background characters with the implication or off comment that they're married/dating or something. and they switched it to straight couple because disney is... well, disney.
Zombie Island is the only choice when considering #1, I’m also confused that your patrons didn’t pick it. This was a great watch with very insightful commentary! Nostalgia all around!
me realizing I love a lot reluctant werewolf and ghoul school because both are so absurd and weird and sometimes stupid. I find them fun to watch! However, I also did grow up watching them as I owned them on dvd. I think most of the scooby doo movies are actually a lot of fun if you don't take them too seriously. I rewatched reluctant werewolf with my college friends 2-3 years ago when we were all a little tipsy, and it was so much fun hah.
@@moonkitty5274 the Mummy from the What's New series gave me nightmares. I think because it was actually flesh colored instead of green, but still obviously decaying.
When I was 8 I had to have a surgery and when I was healing I was in so much pain I couldn’t get up on my own or play. So I spent a week on the couch in my living room 24/7 watching Scooby Doo VHS tapes and playing with my Polly Pockets by myself.
scooby doo mystery incorporated is the absolute best!! i rewatch it every few months because the story line, the characters, the animation. it’s all so well done i’m so glad i grew up with transitioning to it from scooby doo where are you, and still have so much love for it