Deranged Tangerine personally, I don’t really use it much in Arsenal, but in GC ITS SO OP but imo the plasma storm is just godly on a whole other tier.
@@joshuaw_270 Yeah I used to love the GC bouncer as a kit as it was powerful and fun, but I realised just how good the plasma storm is as an adult. But only until I get the RYNO II as I don't have the patience anymore.
i could watch you talk about rac for 24 hours CONSECUTIVELY, your passion and determination is awesome man, looking forward to more tier lists it was fun AF
The Meteor Gun is controversial because it becomes a more mundane weapon from something that was quite interesting, but as a replacement for the Heavy Lancer, it's exceptional.
@@jaotrx7163 It's not the damage that's mundane, it's more the delivery. The Lava gun was like a more interesting flamethrower, throwing a stream of damaging liquid like a rope. But the Meteor Gun just shoots heavy shorter-ranged shots.
I was literally making a list for this, in a video, well, I don't think I do anymore. I wasn't expect anyone doing this, but here we are! My favorite R&C Speedrunner did it.
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Well they are new games so that's normal to make a tier list now lol
N60 is fun but it does dicks for damage. Bouncer shoulda been a bit higher but I get why he put it there. There are just some cheaper weapons that do similar if not better damage like the Shock Cannon and Bomb Glove.
Found your channel randomly, so far I was blown away by how crazy the R&C speedruns have been!! I'll admit at first when I was watching this video I was a little skeptical about certain placements but with the explanations given and category comparisons it definitely started to make more sense. Kinda made me a little bit sad seeing the Blitz Cannon so low but I do understand why now. I definitely agree that the RY3NO would've been sooooo much better without the RYNOCIRATOR existing. Even casually it kinda bummed me out.
I know people really wanted to keep bumping up the Heavy Bouncer higher, even personally I love it, but with all categories considered I think its placement made sense! I think it kind of downgraded in UYA anyway.
I can guarantee this will be one of your most vieweved videos. Rankings really get the attention from the general public and RU-vid algorithm. I can also say right off the bat, I think you should've have ranked weapon based on their style too. I mean, sure the Liquid Nitrogen gun isn't the most effective, but who cares? Those are the type of weapons that make R&C what it was for me, these whack unthinkable designs that would require great fantasy and maybe a decent dose of hallucinogens to come up with. Sure, a generic flamethrower/grenade launcher/bazooka will work better most of the times, but do they have the same fun factor?
@@Xem92 yeah I agree with him, meteor gun is better than lava gun, but I still kinda hate the fact that the lava gun was much more cool and fun to use.
@@matone1z Yeah but the lava gun had crowd control, and the ability to easily clear or dissuade trash. The meteor gun throws that out the window for high single target dps.
I dont mean to be crass but my dear lad you need to upload more content on this youchoob channel so i mayhaps can stay entertained during quarantine by watching one of my favorite youchoobers
Can't believe noone mentioned the mine glove + taunter combo. The taunter causes the mines' aggro range to increase MASSIVELY, turning them from a passive defensive weapon into an active one. Also those mines deal a shitton of damage. All it asks for is a bit of set-up, and after triggering them you can run to safety, so you gotta factor that aswell.
I want to make 2 points of arguments. Ryno 1, remember the first time you were able to buy it when you were a child. That feeling of power. The hover bots, think of the first time you finally had the little rebots out, the force fields around you, holding a golden devastater with the jet pack, and helmet, and all gadgets. The feeling of being a badass with everything out.
42:00 I wwear the meteor gun is SS tier in RAC2!!! You just have to buy the 2 upgrades from slim for just 3 platin bolts in total then you have acid mod + tracking mod, the tracker is so insanely good, you will hit every single shot and it kills enemies so fast its unbelievable, in NG+ !!! That gun carried me to my first million for the armor and the second million for the ryno... Please xem you need to try it with slim Cognacs mods!! Crazy good!
I've had time off of work and been grinding the trilogy on ps4, really enjoying these videos from a casual player point of view. I didn't know ANYTHING about the basics even like clipping so this was super informative. EDIT: and then you bust out the Alex Ich reference? easiest and quickest sub of my life.
As one of said casual ratchet players, (though I did learn the oob exploit for an easy ryno in the first game) I like that you gave examples for placements that use speedrun strats.
1:07:01 I think that looping the Giant Clank mission in Quartu is much faster than using the taunter. You have to farm manually but its worth it if you don't want to burn your console and also due to that in PS4/5 the old Rac games are only playable via cloud you can't tape your controler cause the game will close it self due to inactivity. So the taunter has lost its use in casual play
I gotta say, my rankings, being ENTIRELY a casual player, would have been different going in, but you gave such good reasoning for every placement that I don't even really know if I can argue against any of them. Though I do think the Tesla Claw and Visibomb Gun are getting unfairly punished for just being unfortunate enough to have been put into Going Commando.
Dude I was way too much interested in this video than I should have, this was super fun and sick. I really hope you will add deadlocked to the tier list too because it's my favorite of the quadrilogy. If you would like to I can already say my arguments why I believe the stalker mine launcher, the scorpion flail and the omnishield launcher are the top 3 weapons of the game. If you plan to do this for deadlocked too then when will you do it on twitch? I really want to be there this time. Btw I think you should make more criteria for the weapons in general like range, ground cover, how long it leaves you open, etc...
On the PS2 when I was little I found a glitch that made the RHINO II 3 shot the end boss. I honestly forgot what I did, but that memory will be stuck in my brain.
There's a reason the upgraded Hoverbomb is more expensive than the Ryno II ;) Also the Disc gun from RaC 3 is so underrated imo. Sure, not used in speedruns, but I think it's one of the best guns casually. Same thing about the mine glove in RaC 1. From my filthy casual perspective that thing is basically a bomb glove with the added perk of homing in on enemies.
Just a casual slipping through to say the decoy glove is awesome even casually, because of it grouping up enemies, or for drawing fire on the more ridiculous sections.
Please add the deadlocked weapons to this list. I beg you. (Just so I can see the B6 Obliterator in trash tier and hear your opinion on the Harbinger, Quasar Turrets, Fusion Rifle, and Flail)
@@Cykelpump33 well yeah. Its still kind of bad. You can just use the hunter mine launcher (even the flail tbh) to do the same job as the B6, and the hunter mine is more versatile as you can use it for setup, it literally does more damage too. The B6 deals 60 damage at level 1 and the hunter mine does 120. The B11 does 750 damage at level 10, and the stalker mine does 500 at level 10... except the stalker blows up three times. Not to mention the flail does 1550 damage at level 10 with more ammo and attack speed and a comparable area. The B6 is outclassed, and compared to the flail and mine launcher, its bad.
I think you should do this a little differently: Imagine you can play the game with just ONE weapon. Which order would you choose for them? The blaster is probably the best option other than the RYNO in R&C1.
As a RAC casual only player who knows nothing about the speed running world. I expected the shock cannon to be pretty high because even for a casual player the sweep is insane.
@@bilbogaggins9766 It was an old flip phone mobile game you could purchase and play using the phone keypad. Was pretty legit for a pre-smartphone era mobile game. These days, without need for explaining it is no longer available without pirating a copy and running it through a specific emulator.
Ive been looking over the internet for this weapon which shoots bombs but also leaves lava when exploded. I cant seem to remember which ratchet and clank game it was from. But i played it like 15 yrs ago
You mentioned that the Shock Cannon is useful in every situation. I think that applies to everything in SS except for the Tetrabomb Gun, which is only useful for bosses primarily from the sound of it.
Maybe 1 time out of 78 someone miss clicks. I mean it happened to me a few times. It says I disliked a video while I didn't want to. Well I hope it's a miss click xD
I love Zem pointing out almost everything that makes the Zodiac less than it could be and is still like "BUT!" Everything the Zodiac CAN do, another weapon can do better, more powerfully, more quickly, more effeciently or in a manner that's just more fun (as far as fun fits most peoples' definitions, anyway.) If we assume C tier is for weapons that are just average, not good, not bad, just okay, then all of the Zodiac's good qualities add up to it belonging at a high C at best.
100% agree about the Bouncer. It's a great BACK-UP plan, but it should never be a first choice. With a poison upgrade in RAC2 it can be quite entertaining! Especially against the Proto-Pet.
30:35 that rifle is pretty op I can agree with you on that and at the same time I thought I was the only one that took down that giant robot with the rifle
well yeah we knew that, it's just not really a factor tbh. thankfully with uya there's so many spots where the game gives you a full ammo refresh anyway (for example every time you enter a ranger dropship)
Xem is downplaying the Infector so much. A V1 can still brainwash large tough enemies just for shorter duration than the higher V’s. The V5 Infectobomb becomes such a monster that infects a massive radius with each shot along with doing a mini nuke explosion on impact that does the same damage as the V5 nitro eruptor. It’s so underutilized. If used with the agents of doom and the mini-turrets, you can let a battle ensue without having to even lift a finger lol and the infection-bombnhelps with dealing with bosses that spawned with multiple backup enemies. It also becomes a godsend when doing the Quarktastic challenge when you have to save ammo.
You demostrated an incredible amount of knowledge about weaponary of ratchet thoo!! You know that you can cancel the BOUNCER shot with the wrench pressing square and you only have to spam circle (shoot) square circle square etc, and the shooting cadence gets increased, and same with Gravity bomb, that are slow AF hahaha Nice video xem 👌
Unpopular opinion, the Chopper is not that bad, it's an alright DPS weapon and does very decently against certain bosses, I think it's at least high D tier.
I remember as a child how disappointed I was in the Clank Zapper. 1,000,000 bolts AND being challenge mode exclusive made the obvious implication that this weapon was going to be the shit. But it turned out to be by far the most useless weapon in the game. Even if it was free I'd feel ripped off. God only knows what Insomniac was thinking when they created this god-awful weapon, lol.
I remember just farming nonstop to get that as a kid (the impossible challenge was too hard for 5 year old me) and when I first got it I bought it and killed a yeti in one hit that had gotten hurt by my shield a bunch already, so I thought wow it's just a one use 1 shot kill weapon. I was wrong haha
Im glad someone agrees about the bouncer. Im only a casual player, but i usually dont even buy it unless im going for 100%. The mini nuke does everything it does, better, without lagging the game and dealing with the rng of the mini bombs. Its cool, but thats all it is imo.
Hey Marathon. I think even though you trimmed stuff down, 1 hour 40 is a bit excessive. For future videos, tier lists and stuff can go to 20-45 minutes at max. But usual content i recommend 10-18 minutues
I think it's totally fine as long as people have well-constructed arguments. I'm not infallible or perfect, so while I have much more experience than the average person, I'm also open to being criticized and challenged on my stances. I also don't have the best perspective on casual stuff (for obvious reasons), so I appreciate when people remind me that their experiences were different!
My own personal experience? This gun can hit things OUTSIDE OF YOUR OWN VISION. That fact alone is terrifying. But it can also hit targets WAY farther than you ever expect it too. This gun makes me feel safe.
I think RYNOS are in their own tier. I played all RACs, including future trilogy, quest for booty ECC ECC (new Remake too). One point I didn't see you consider is that some of these are only realistically available on NG+ due to cost/unavailability. Also, some ones like RAC3 RYNO are objectively castrated by their maxed version being way worse than the V4. Considering only the OG weapons, although tetrabombs and poking are clearly unbeatable, that is only a very specific, close range and targeted strategy. RYNO2 can destroy everything from long range, can be used to maintain momentum, ammo found in crates, extremely good ammo capacity, no need to worry about a thing basically. While all weapons have at least a weakness (ammo capacity, cost, placement, availability, damage, firerate, AOE effect, casual/speedrun comparison), the RYNOS are designed to be broken. Apart from their cost and availability, RYNOS have no weaknesses. You also do not need to level up them (RAC3 excluded) while other weapons need experience. It's impossible to compare anything against a RYNO.
Zodiac not that good, it drops off quickly in challenge mode. Chopper is pretty whack in arenas, but it is fair otherwise. As a kid I loved Clank Zapper because I combined it with Tesla Barrier and barely had to fight. Holoshield has some casual uses. It's first available in Holostar, which is actually a fantastic place to put it because that's when you'll really start to learn how important cover is. I struggled hardcore on Holostar until I got used to the Holoshield. Otherwise, I'm mostly in agreement with the list. I'm curious to see what a Deadlocked list would look like, though, since weapons are far more customizable. Yeah, you could say "just do the inherent secondary mods" as part of the criteria, but I still think that could be a fun stream.
The Annihilator/Decimator is so good and It gets so much unwarranted hate because it’s expensive. It’s better than the bouncer by leaps and bounds. It has quadruple the DPS.
The liguid nitrogen gone does some pretty nuts damage against arena bosses in uya. It really helped me get through the qwarktastic challenge. I'd put it A tier personally.
55:00 I was about to argue about how great the Quackanator is for sewers until he explained that it caused lagging. Never realized that was the cause, but I guess he's right. Now I need a new strategy. 😢
Does multiplayer still exist? I never could get it running on my PS2 way back in 2007 or 8. Can,t remember that good, but man i loved the quark tutorial :). The humor is so nice. I hope we get some more games in the future.
