Black people Eater First of all People always say shaq is the best center lol SAS always put KD curry lebron over Wilt lol And remember the voting lebron over wilt lol
@@greekyoungbuck Moses wasn't better then Mj in the 80s he just played on a better team but individually Mj was better but Moses is 4 but I got Kareem at 5
I agree with all assessments. Especially those who don’t think bird would be good in todays game. He’s basically made for the current game. He’s the size of a pf and shoots amazing from the outside. He even had a baby step back which is crazy because he’s so tall.
I think Hakeem deserves a spot on the list, averaged 23 and 12 with 2 steals and 3 blocks on over 50% shooting. Plus he helped take that Rockets team to the finals where they even won 2 games against that stacked Celtics team
House Grumpy Boys that doesn’t mean he cannot be a top 10 player of 80’s. Personally I wouldn’t put Hakeem on my top 10 of this decade either but you can have a compelling argument for including him.
@Tod Wilkinson You can argue Hakeem as the "best" center ever but I don't think you can argue Hakeem as the "greatest" center ever. Hakeem didn't accomplish nearly as much as Kareem, Russel, or Shaq to be considered "greater" than them or to be above them on an All-Time list imo.
Mj was as good as anyone in the 80s just as good as Bird and Magic but didnt have a team to play for a championship but individually Mj was just as good as Bird and Magic if not better but because he didnt win championship I think its fair to have him a little lower but then when we also look into the 90s Mj just ran over everybody and became the goat because he had a team now and could win championship and won 6 of them with 6 fmvps
Moe 1 MVP and no championships, coming from that standpoint alone you definitely gotta put Moses over him and MAYBE dr.J whos had 1 MVP and one championship🤷🏽♂️
Eric Tynes he also won DPOY in 88. Was 3 time scoring champ. 2 time first team defense. 1 time steals champ. 2 time dunk champ. 1 time mvp like you said and 1 all star mvp. 1 olympic Gold medal. 1 ROY. 1 College player or the year. 1 College Championship. 4 time all nba all that in the 80s and he had two seasons with over 200 steals and 100 block as the only player ever in to do it and he did that in the 80s also
Moe well you definitely gotta Moses in front no doubt, as he was a center who defined the 1980s and is a two time MVP and a champion who really did dominate no doubt. I would easily put Moses over him to as he was clearly in his prime during the time.
SPORTALITY TV the 1970s were boring as shit, and the 1960s bill russel steamrolled literally everyone. The 60s were way too one sided and the 70s were way too wishy washy. Both are trash eras
14:02 If Bird was in the League today he'd be a better version of Luka. Sounds outrageous but think about it. Of course Bird wouldn't have Luka's stepback 3 but what Bird would have is a better post game, better midrange game, be about 4 inches taller, better defense, better passing, & a higher basketball IQ.
@James Robert Luka plays like a higher IQ version of Harden. He doesn't play like Bird as Bird has a post game, midrange game, was taller, was a better defender, etc.
Ngl Larry and Magic are so close to each other in the all time ranking that I don’t have a strong opinion on who’s better, but if I had to choose I would have to lean Bird cuz he had less help and was more clutch
I think larry bird being more clutch than magic is a fact but, i believe that if magic had worse teammates, he would have been more clutch. Magic during his prime played with some of the best players at their respective positions. Even if we try to not look at it, it keeps dragging down magic in the all time list. I personnally give more points to accomplishments thzn stats so i give magic the edge.
@@jijmotorp3079 Magic could bring out the best of his teammates more than any other player ever could so I'm sure Magic would have still found huge success without a Kareem or Worthy. Of course not as much success but he still would have found a way to propel his teams to chamionships.
I would love to see a role players of the 80s list, Byron Scott, Michael Cooper, Bill Walton and Dennis johnson (maybe a star) really made those championship teams
People that didn't see the era don't understand what you're talking about. There were more than a few guys that sacrificed numbers for ultimate success EVEN IF they didn't get a Championship. TEAMS not individuals win Rings
Bill Walton before injuries was on track to be one of the best big men ever. After injuries specifically on that Celtics roster he was a good roleplayer.
Usually I hate to see rankings “on the fence”, but the Bird/Magic rivalry makes them almost a “single” player for the 1980s. Each of them is so legendary because of both of them. Great video. I was surprised to see Moses so high, and Dr. J and Kareem definitely benefitted from their accolades from the 70s. These players made me pause and think, but I definitely won’t disagree with your choices.
Wilson winning the championship is the greatest achievement in basketball. Winning it as the best player . How can you put Jordan over Isiah and Dr j in the 80s? Moses was definitely great but Isiah won 2, should've been 3 1 magic 2 bird 3 Isiah 4 kareem 5 Moses malone
@@mmldtop6005 idk if you watched those finals, but Detroit threw 4 guys at Jordan and triple teamed him on every possession. When he went to the basket they knocked him to the ground. Im sayin skill wise, nobody was better than MJ
It won 1 championship in the 80s, he should be below moses and kareem. 89-90 is reffered to the 90s. I agree that he should be above MJ though. I tend to give more points to accomplishments than stats.
@@darrellhardy90 skillwise nobody is probably better than Jordan that I agree. But being more skilled doesn't mean you're better as a player in NBA basketball. Its all about winning. If it's 1 on 1 nobody will probably beats mj but NBA basketball is not 1v1 . Same as wilt he can score 50 points per game and grab 30 rebounds per game and play 48 minutes per game but he will never be above bill russ the real goat of bball
This video is tremendous. Had to add you to my scripts after watching. Goddamn, theres just not enough love for Big Mo these days, loved the clips, haven't seen several of them previously. As a Boston fan, I've watched that 81 Finals several times. Larry really struggled after playing like a Greek god in the 7 game ECF against Dr. J. But it's amazing to watch Mo carry that underrated Houston team. People always talk down about that team because they were a low seed, but never bother to mention all the injuries they dealt with during the regular season. Mo wasn't even the only HOFer on that squad. Another guy from that series who is incredibly overlooked, Finals MVP Cedric Maxwell. He was sorta like a Robert Horry, his season stats never jump out at you, but he is one of the best big game players of the era. Bravo man, great video.
Great list. Honorable mention to Moncrief, English and Olajuwon. I think Moncrief in the 80's could be better than Wilkins, but it's pretty closed between them.
I agree Bird is the best, but if you watched the 86 wcf there is no way Hakeem should be omitted from the top 10. He lost to Bird and Mchale, but beat Magic, Kareem and Worthy!
Good list. Very tough to rank. I hadn't thought about who I'd higher place between Isiah and Dr. J., for example. Kareem and Malone is another tough pair to rank. Bird would definitely be my #1 for the 80s and #2 all-time after Jordan.
Magic has the better resume, but Bird was more talented. Bird and Magic were basically the same player, but only one of them could shoot-- and you could argue he's the best to every do it.
1. ........... 2. Earvin or Larry because really the team they played or etc and all ten years...but there's..... 3. Hakeem Olajuwon 4. MJ 5. Kareem Abdul J. 6. Karl 7. Clyde or The Human Highlight 8. Charles or McHale or Moses Malone.... 9. Julius Erving...or Isiah Thomas 10. Michael Ray R. & Bernard King * Etc Joe Dumars, Sidney Mongrief, Alex English or........Tree Rollins & Patrick or Bill Laimbeer...
Unrelated to the video but I want to see Hakeem or Mchale teach Zion post moves. If Zion had post moves anywhere near the level of Hakeem or Mchale he would bring awareness back the importance of the post game to the NBA.
Isiah would be ranked higher than Julius Irving on this list. Dr. J did a lot of damage in the ABA in the 70's and while he was great in the 80's as well, I don't see how he was better than Isiah who played almost all of his best years in the 80's, won more championships than Irving in the 80's, and was the undisputed best player on those teams as well. Dr. J may have the better overall career (it's arguable), but Zeke was the better 80's player. I think Zeke has a good case to be ranked ahead of Moses as well (it's close), and even MJ (Jordan only played four or five healthy seasons in the 80's and he didn't win anything).
Bird vs. Magic is a complete tie in my mind. Magic had more rings and is the all time leader in assists per game. While Larry doesn't lead the league all time in any stat he was a better scorer than Magic and also had a solid all around game and won championships in a more competitive east with less talent around him than Magic.
1. Michael Jeffrey Jordan 2. Lary Joe Bird 3.Earvin Johnson Jr. 4. Moses Eugene Malone 5. Isiah Lord Thomas III 6. Ferdinand Lewis Alcindor Jr. 7. Julius Winfield Erving II 8. James Ager Worthy 9. Jacques Dominique Wilkins 10. Alexander English/Kevin Edward McHale/George Gervin
In my opinion, Moses Malone was MAYBE the best player of the early 80s (80-83), Larry Bird was DEFINITELY the best player of the mid 80s (84-86), and Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson were the best players of the late 80s. That being said, Bird won Rookie of the Year (Magic got a whopping three votes), won three straight MVPs, finished second in MVP voting four times, never finished lower than 4th in MVP voting, and received 67% of ALL MVP voting in the 1980s. So yeah, that’s NBA dominance.
Brother, I am in complete agreement with your list. Larry Legend is the greatest player of the 80s. And he is #4 on my all time list. And he would average 40 points a game today
Thank you for the video, your list was right on but like you stated at the end there were so many good players in the 80s and 70s! I don't believe that you can really pick "one" player as the best in over 70 years of Pro Basketball history. (maybe by decade) Statistically the best player ever is/was Wilt Chamberlain. I don't need to mention that Wilt has records that will never ever be broken and some of Wilt's records that were broken it took those players twice as long as the accomplishment of Wilt! A good example was Wilts scoring record, it took Kareem and Labron 20 years to break Wilts record! FYI most of Wilts scoring records were set in his first 7-8 years of play! Also, what fans of today are ignorant of the history of professional basketball, that the game has evolved! But not for the better!
I'm fine with you ranking Bird ahead of Magic, but don't disrespect that Celtics team. - Dave Cowens: Hall of fame made his final All-Star team that year. - Tiny Archibald: hall of fame, All-Star that season and the next two. - M. L. Carr: put up 18 ppg and 2nd team all defense the year before in Detroit before taking a smaller role on this roster. - Pete Maravich was done, so I can understand not counting him. - Cedric Maxwell never had great numbers but put up 19 and 9 the year before Bird arrived and stil named finals MVP over Bird in '81.
What's interesting is that there is a huge controversy over Isiah Thomas being left off the Dream Team, but nobody ever says anything about Moses Malone. The two had very similar career resumes, Isiah won 2 titles in 3 finals while Moses was 1 for 2, but Moses was a 3 time MVP. Both were Finals MVPs. You are probably thinking, yeah, but in 1992, Moses was past his prime, while Isiah was still in his. But, if Win Shares are to be believed, that's not true, Moses had more Win Shares than Isiah in each of the 4 years between Olympic games 1988-1992. Furthermore, as a big man, he'd probably would have been a better fit in the rotation than Isiah as a point guard. I'm not going to say Moses should have been on the Dream Team, or that he was better than Isiah, but I think he has an equally compelling argument that never gets talked about.
Kareem nor Moses was better than MJ23 in the 80s. MJ dominated the 80s & 90s. The only 2 players I would put above MJ23 in the 80s are Magic and Bird. Stop trying to be the smartest guy in the room.
