Yeah I hate the new braindead terminology, where you call each player a "dog" or "dawg". But there is no metric for it. I've seen EVERY rookie and player called that, so it means nothing.
Last I saw him detroit was 8 to the good at the start of March and he said something like detroits not very good then every detroit fan came out of the woodworks and yelled at em about it and then we fell off a cliff
@@insertgenericusernamehere2402 TSN Started them, but in terms of youtube and social media content, they've outgrown TSN. They are still using TSN's Connections, but it is that awkward part where they could grow bigger if they were a separate channel. The only reason I'm not subbed is because when I did subscribe, I see all this TSN content I don't want to see.
I agree Jessie. Not sure Jets are a "B" team after they just had a franchise record season. Despite playing in the toughest Division, Jets finished 4th OVERALL and are the top Cdn team in the standings. Theyre also the Best Defensive Shutdown Team in the NHL with under 200 Goals against. Too much focus was placed on Offence when making these picks, but as we all know, its Defence that wins Cups. (below Colorado and Edmonton is just disrespectful)
Ok, I just watched this after the Oilers beat Dallas to face Panthers in the finals. My jaw dropped when I heard Poc's prediction. Hope it pans out. Go Oilers!
the disrespect on boston is crazy, no way the leafs are in the b tier with the rest of them. Boston went 4-0 in the season series with them. kings are more c than b tier, jets honestly should be A. Love the podcast but not the best takes this vid.
Wondering if Dallas can score when we have 8 different 20+ goal scorers is fucking wild. Depth is the most important and Otter is hot at the right moment.
robertson was basically a point per game, on a team that rolls all lines equally with the most 20+ goal scorers. And otter has been red hot to end the year
@@Bomber_Boi People keep saying that, but I think last year's history will sharpen Dallas. They won't come out flat in the 1st round because it's Vegas.
There's really no point in making a tier list if the entire bottom half is basically empty. You need to lower the standard in that case and make C more relevant as the new B, for example. You then have more wiggle room to separate teams in B and A instead of putting 90% of the teams on the same line.
I like the personalities and premise of the show. But these guys are still mainly eastern hockey fans. Very lnsightful opinions on teams that they watch. But rely on stats and other media’s insight for teams they don’t. Don’t get me wrong. People need to sleep. But if your show is going to represent all fans in this country. Put the work in. Or just be honest with your knowledge/opinions. Or lack there of.
I don't see the premise for your complaint. The guys chose Dallas as the top team, and 3 out of 4 took Western teams to win the cup. That is not evidence of an East Coast bias. The second point I have to make is that their comments were just their opinion, and in case you didn't notice, opinions among them vary widely. As should be expected. I am unsure what you thought they should have done differently.
@@danreed2189 Well Dan, let me explain. My comments weren’t about who they were choosing to win. It’s being on a national platform(TSN) and having a show that is supposed to be for all Canadian hockey fans. Yet they choose to not put the work in or just straight cater to one particular area of the country. This is there full-time jobs. So either put the effort into knowing all of the teams. Good or bad. And having a actual opinion based on full knowledge. Everyone has their opinions. But they should be educated opinions.
I completely disagree that the Oilers are better than the Canucks and Jets. The Jets are the best defensive team in the league, and the Canucks were an offensive wagon
"Dallas and Carolina are really good teams, but they lack star power." Because YOU don't talk about them lmao. You talk about the same 5 players endlessly. You actually have the platform to raise this. Wyatt Johnston is TWENTY years old and he has 32 goals. If the 2021 draft was redone today, Johnston might legitimately go #1. HE would certainly go top 3. And he's one of the most entertaining and creative players to watch on a nightly basis in the NHL. His personality is hilarious too. Why isn't he a star? Because (ironically) he plays for the Dallas Stars, and channels like Bardown do not talk about their individual talents.
Same bro I watched the SDPN playoff thing about the Canes and I'm like these guys are utterly clueless about even the most basic things , This is hockey media in general outside of maybe the hockey guy ...its all just the same couple handfuls of teams and the rest of the league barely exists .
All the love for the Avs that got embarrassed last year by the Kraken, who had the best 5v5 team in the league last year. Well, guess who has that distinction this year? The Jets scored the most 5v5 and has the best 5v5 goal differential in the league. Also, no way you can put the Avs above the Jets when Giorgiev is easily the worst goalie in the dance.
I don't buy it. Look at last playoffs. If MacK is so much of a game breaker, how did an inferior team like the Kraken beat a 1 seed? That Avs team was better than this year's version, and the Jets are better than the Kraken this year. Also, they kept saying you can't take the season into account because it's a different beast, in which the Jets dominated the avs. Then in the very next breath they draw on the Avs past success over two post seasons ago...
He only wanted 70 cause when his contract is in...and STILL HAS 1RD WIN.....he's gunna ask for 15M and the main thing would've been "well I scored 70 so 🤷" yet....Mackinnon at 6.3....wins a cup....then makes 12.6.....not 12.6....while we can't win then what.....if leafs lose in 1st round....does 69gs REALLY MATTER ....wish we could demote money NOT REPLACE coaches 😂😂😂😂😂 if they FLUSH 13.25M down the drain in 6 games.................
Pull a isles on bossy....send core 4 DOWN.....TO THE A......embarrassing making 13.25M and in the Ahl......either send them down and say.....CANT WIN.....THIS IS WHERE YOULL BE......OR DEMOTE MONEY.....YOU MAKE 13.25M....SCORE 69 GOALS......BUT BLOW IT IN 6 GAMES.......YEAH.....YOUR ONLY GETTING 8M.....IMAGINE THAT....I BET THEY WIN......
The reason you feel unsure about the Oilers is because they're a team of individuals, instead of a group of individuals making a team. Also, they might be too soft to win the Cup. Oilers Fan since '81. Hoping, but not confident.;( Are the Canucks the most disrespected team in the NHL this year? I think so. Between the Canucks and Kucherov, I'm not sure who gets the least respect for what they've done.
2 fantasy playoffs' finals: 1- "redemption"final: Vancouver vs Boston (Vancouver wins) 2- "Adam's Divison" final: Nordiques vs Whalers [Colorado vs Hurricanes] (Hurricanes win)
I will die on the hill that Edmonton and Toronto are the biggest FRAUDS in the NHL. They're good teams that are given TOO MUCH credit because of their high end talent, but lack the goaltending and defense to actually do something of value in the playoffs. Edmonton should've been B tier and Toronto C
@@DrTieYT honestly I gained a lot of respect for them in their deep playoff run. I still believe Skinner isn’t the guy gonna win you a cup, or even in the top 10 goalies in the league, but that team in general proved me wrong and shoved they have more grit than I originally expected. They proved they have what it takes to get it done, just ran into a better team with an actual goalie. No longer frauds in my mind, but if they fumble this season then probably will go back to my original thoughts on them being the Toronto of the west
It’s so wide open literally apart from my Leafs, Isles & Caps I cud make a case for any of the others winning the SC got to love the parity in the NHL! Can’t wait to watch the Jets AVs series, Bolts Panthers, and Stars VGK, just hope they not all on at the same time😏
I’m a Leafs fan and even I know Jets should be in A even tho we didn’t lose to them in the Regular season, Hellerbuyck has got hot at the right time, they have better D than Colorado and a far better goaltender which is why they beat Avs in 6 games! Jets Oilers Conference final imho!
@@jeuce9304 should of been but Jets choked in playoffs even more than my Leafs 😏🙄nobody had AVs winning in 5 especially after giving up 8 goals in the first game give credit to Georgiev he rebounded well but can he match Skinner or Ottenger bcoz he will have to, that’s if Vegas don’t turn it around!
@@Woody13ify that's what everybody said about the Vezina winner, oettinger didn't have that amazing of a season and Skinner has been just as inconsistent as georgiev.
Next up: geographic features. "this guy is like a MOUNTAIN!" "the last season he played like a total FISSURE." "I've always thought he kinda PLATEAUED." "CRATER!?!?!"
Rangers have everything in place to make a long run; High end talent Playoff experience Elite goaltending Good coaching Big wins against top teams That being said, they’ve got to shed the demons of last year and prove they’re capable of another deep run to the cup. Tough task, but I believe they’re ready.
New to this show it’s quite interesting love the insight. I do think the FL cats are amazing and love watching. Them (from here in FL) . The Canucks were for some reason way too lowly considered and the Jets as well!
They mentioned the caps not having a 70 points scorer but there is another team without a 70 point scorer: Vegas (Though marchy has 69 and Eichel 68, but strome has 67 and ovi 65 so)
Lots for exciting matchups but the battle of Florida and the battle of the leafs sanity are going to be straight up blood baths as well as the second round matchups coming out of that
Bruins vs Leafs this season. Wins 4-0 to Bruins. Goals 15-7 for Bruins. Save % .949 for Bruins vs .891 for Leafs PP% 30 for Bruins vs 9.1 for Leafs. Bruins is 5. Easy money.
Genuinely love this list, only thing I don't agree with is Oilers, They are on that cusp of A/B but looking at the other teams they are closer to Jets Leafs Bruins Lightning then they are to Canes Rangers Panthers Avs Vegas. Kings could move down too but I get why they are in B (They can beat Oilers for sure which is why Oilers are too high.) Winner of Stars Vegas goes to the cup final for me, Canes win it all.
Imagine debating the avs as the best with literally zero depth and the worst goaltending out of any playoff team. At absolute best they're B. The Jets are going to annihilate them, and I'm not even remotely a jets fan
Based Jessie ⚡⚡⚡⚡. Although I'm a Tampa fan, I would have put them in C. Vasy has had a down year after his back surgery right before the season and their defense has been an issue (even before the Sergachev injury). Also, their Bottom 6 is completely dead weight on offense. I will say that if the Power Play can be automatic (as it's shown to be at times), they can beat anyone. Their Penalty Kill has been sneaky strong this year as well.
The caps may not be the best. But the goal differential is 0 now. This is the first team I have no expectations and I’m happy to watch. Carberry will be Jack Adams’s nominee and let’s see what happens
C’mon TSN. Stop denying and ignoring the potential of the Jets. They DO NOT belong beside Toronto on this list. Our goalies alone deserve a higher spot. I think poor Jesse has just given up now. The denial is too strong!
Let’s knock it off, Detroit blew their own season. I’m so tired of hearing “2 OT COMEBACKS” IT WAS THE DAMN HABS! They should’ve never been behind! They didn’t deserve to make it.
I can’t believe I’m going to say this but the wii nhl slap shot box in the back being damaged triggers me .. don’t tell me you guys can’t afford what I would assume is a 100$ game cib in prestine condition.. please fix it
We will see.. if the caps lose tonight and go down 3-0 in the series then its over. If they go down 3-1 in the series and go back to MSG, its over. They have to win both at Home.
