@@cjstats1514 While I don’t like the sister twist, it’s barely relevant in that movie, so I don’t mind. It’s the later movies that started to bother me.
@@josefengelhardt2767 H20 is the absolute WORST of the series. And I can name off 13 reasons why. Something NO ONE can do with H4. H40, is LITERALLY a remake of H20. Albeit, a slightly better version and definitely ranks higher on the totem pole.
@@dustinhogle3844 yes i agree that H20 has problems like Michael's look and they never explain where he has been for 20 years. Some parts during the final fight feel unintentionally funny like when Laurie hits Michael in the head with a fire extinguisher. But in General while i don't love H20 like everyone else i still don't mind it. Because i like that they changed the setting from Haddonfield to a private school in california. And Jamie Lee Curtis does some good acting as well as an then unknown Michelle Williams. My worst Halloween movies are the Rob Zombie Remakes
The best one for me is just the first 2 films. I’ve always loved how they connect together. If they wanted to end it there, they definitely could have.
It honestly should have ended with Halloween II. Had people not WHINED about Halloween III not having Michael then we would have got a perfect horror franchise where the rest of the sequels does a different stand alone story each time
19:57 If you watch the original as a standalone you can imagine that Michael escaped after Loomis shot him and no one knew where he went, if and when he'd kill again or anything similar to the original Black Christmas ending with Billy still loose.
My favorite time line is 1, 2 and 4. Just that ending in 4 is so iconic that I can’t think of any better way to end the franchise than that right there.
I love that you made separate timelines besides the main ones! One timeline I would create is Halloween 1,2; 4-6, and then Resurrection -- ignoring the Laurie content. Having the Laurieless prologue taking place at the asylum sometime after the end of Curse. And pretending that it's part of the Thorn timeline. I hope to one day actually edit the film around this concept and see how well it would work.
I also had a similar thought placing H20 in the Thorn timeline. There's many things that actually fit. Laurie didn't actually die in a car accident, she just faked her death. The only obstacle here is with her children Jamie and John, who seem to have been born around the same time. They could explain it by them being twins, but why would she give Jamie for adoption and take John with her?
@@HyperXero52 yes! You can totally make head canon work around it. Having John's line "don't talk to me about responsibility" meaning "you ditched my sister!" One other timeline that I use that includes 1-6 and H2O is that 4,5,6 are the dream Laurie wakes up from screaming in H20 😉
But it's not how timelines work though, if the movie is connect or apart of the same universe then it's part of the same timeline. Halloween only has 3 timelines not 10.
@@ryanlemay6296 I'm going by the actual definition of timeline lol also I'm pretty sure this guy knows what movies are connected and canon to each other, he's never stated that he hates a movie so much that it's considered non canon to him.
I will always ride or die for the original as a stand-alone. So glad you included that. Great content, as always. You nearly have 100K. The finish line is right before your eyes.
@@07foxmulder not even close, there’s a lot of bad movies out there, all those bad slashers that look like they’re shot on camcorders in the early 2000s that would randomly show up in Hollywood Video with awful effects bad music and lame kills for example.
@@dkres82 Those movies you speak of didn’t take one of the greatest horror movies ever and shit over everything that made it great lol H2 is bottom of the barrel trash. It’s the Dave Matthews Band of horror.
@@07foxmulder I disagree as I have it ranked 4th, behind the original, Halloween 4 and Halloween 2018. I will say that the brother/sister angle was unnecessary, Dick Warlock needed improvement, and the whole school scene was a weird diversion. It has problems for sure, but it’s really a perfect ending, for Michael and Loomis, in a way. Still, 1978 works best as a one off.
I like how unique this video is. Personally I would add 2 extra timelines where Halloween 6 and the remakes get switched out by their director's and producer's cuts. Here's my ranking: 12. Ressurrection Timeline 11. Thorn Timeline (Theatrical Cut for 6) 10. Haddonfield Timeline 9. Thorn Tiemline (Producer's Cut for 6) 8. Zombie Timeline (Director's Cuts) 7. Loomis Timeline 6. Purist Timeline 5. H40 Timeline 4. One Bloody Night Timeline 3. Shamrock Timeline 2. Zombie Timeline (Theatrical Cuts) 1. H20 Timeline
Halloween 78 to H20 is the definitive timeline of the franchise, i love how they perfectly bring close to Laurie's and Michael's story. The new timeline had so potential if they focused only on two movies from the start
@@secularbelt I completely agree and then add Halloween : Resurrection (because it IS part of that timeline no matter how much people try to ignore it or forget it), which is even worse than H20 and that timeline is complete 💩. I mean, Halloween 1978, Halloween 2018, Halloween Kills, and Halloween Ends is probably the best overall timeline of the Halloween franchise no matter how much people hate on Halloween Kills and Halloween Ends.
@@stevesmitherman7244 You can ignore it because H20 ends without any indication of a sequel.. Yes, if you set a rule where you have to take each timeline as far as possible, you'd have to include it.. but we Don't have to do that, especially with how definitive H20's ending is.
Whoa I've been privately calling it the Loomis trilogy for years too. Personal favorite for sure. But in my desperate attempts to purge the existence of Ends from my mind, I've found some decent appeal in having Kills as the closer of its own trilogy... Evil never really dies, Michael is home, Laurie pays the price with Karen's life for her obsession. Dark and mildly satisfying once the blue balls wear off.
I'm not sure why, because Loomis is in the whole Timeline up to H6. That if anything should be called the "Loomis Timeline" That being said, I do like the 1,2,4 Timeline. Ending with Jamie covered in blood and Loomis screaming is ballzy and fitting, even though they never intended it to end there.
@@1000000man1 yeah but let's be honest... Part 5 Loomis is too nuts and part 6 Loomis is too old. The story kinda goes.on without them. How about the Peak Loomis trilogy? From the first kid turning evil, full circle to the next kid turning evil. Very Greek tragedy imho.
@@whobitmyname Halloween 5 was one of the most dominant outings for Pleasance in the role. Outside of 2, I don't think there's another film in the series that he influences to such a degree. Halloween 4 was a great entry for Loomis, but he largely disappeared over the second half of the film. 5 made up for that, with a VENGEANCE.
Personally my ideal timeline to the Halloween franchise begins with the 1978 original and ends after Halloween II. I have soft spots for The Return Of Michael Myers and love Halloween H20 as well as 2018 but it seems to be the most consistent timeline that makes the most logical sense for all of us fans of Michael Myers.
For me either H1&2 or H1,2,H20 for me. I love the way you think and consider them, this is how me and my friends always considered the films and I'm glad to see more people doing it like that.
Personally just off of nostalgia reasons the Thorne timeline is my favorite. I love Jamie Loyd more than Laurie strode personally and Danielle Harris performance is so good. At the end of the day no timeline is perfect and everyone has their preferences.
Purist timeline all the way for me. Just a random, unexplained mystery that leaves everything up to the imagination. The timelines ending with 4 and H2O are also solid. I just have some major issues with those sequels, especially H20. I wish they'd made it more dark, brooding, and atmospheric instead of going with the trendy late-90's teenage slasher vibe. That, and a much better Michael/mask. Now you're talkin'. It's be amazing you hit 100K subs on Halloween. I'm rooting for it!
To me all the movies take place in one singular timeline. 1-8 events actually happened. Rob Zombies and Blumhouse Halloween movies are just movies. The way this works is after Halloween, Hollywood decided to make a movie based on those events and it explains it poppin up on TV in Halloween III: Season Of The Witch.
That's a pretty cool idea but it's Carpenters Halloween that was playing in Season of the Witch, not Zombies and/or Greens. But if you take Season of the Witch out then you could run with that I suppose.
Congrats on the upcoming 100k milestone man! I've been around since your A Nightmare on Elm Street ranking video when you were around 1500 subscribers. Thanks for the content!
THANK YOU! Someone finally recognizing all of the timelines! These are what makes Halloween franchise so cool and…unique🎃 Not one single other RU-vidr has acknowledged each of these…thank you again! Also, H40 timeline would move way higher for me IF: Laurie had a premeditated plan and made the bus crash, ensuring Michaels escape Laurie sneakily lures him to her death trap house He actually dies in the house at the end The “How to death with your tRaUMa 101” timeline
Such a great ranking man, I’m watching all of them for the second time this week. Love going back and forth with my favorites lol I honestly love the OG H1, Halloween 4, and Ends.
I would love to see a Halloween fan film that continues Zombie’s story. Laurie puts on Michael’s mask and becomes the next killer. Michael shows up and they team up.
Great job as always, Cody! You leave no stone unturned and, as a fan who never tires of the conversation, I so appreciate that! I agree with you wholeheartedly. If the OG Halloween 78 were the one and only, I'd be perfectly fine with that. But, as it stands, the trifecta of Halloween 78, Halloween II and H20 represent the best timeline in my opinion. I always try to work Halloween 4 into that timeline because, outside of Season of the Witch, those are my favorites. I try to tell myself that to explain Laurie's absence, she faked her own death and gave up her daughter to protect them both in H4. Then, maybe H20 could have continued the Laurie Strode saga but substituted a 17-year old Jamie for John's character. I feel that might have worked.
My definitive timeline is 78' and 81'. It's the most complete without there being too many plot holes made by the other sequels. And where Michael Myers SHOULD have ended. Just One bloody night that no one will ever forget. I'm ok with the sister thing because Michael seems particularly fascinated with Laurie more than the others in the 78' movie. H2 kinda explains that at the end and I'm ok with the relation. I could accept H1 being the only one if the whole anthology idea worked out. And H3 was instead the next installment after H1. But yea, H1 and H2 is my definitive timeline for Michael Myers.
I'm a fan of most of the films and I'm even in the minority that really enjoyed ends. Having said that the best timeline in my opinion is just the first film by itself but if I want to include sequels the best timeline would have to be one two and four.
@Big K Movies and Games For me 1978’s 1 and 1981’s 2 (which was actually SUPPOSE to be the end of the Michael storyline) are how the timeline goes to me. H20 was decently good but my problem with that film is they don’t even explain how he survived his death in Halloween II in it. If only the fans had let John Carpenter do his plan to make more stand alone stories with the other sequels like with Season Of The Witch, then it would be a more kick ass franchise
So glad I found your channel. I don't know why it's so fun watching you make lists and making points that almost 100% agree with all the time lol. But yes to H20 having the best ending in the franchise. Completely agree and I love looking at those 3 films as the definitive trilogy in the franchise.
Man I knew there were alot of timelines in this franchise but never really thought about some of the ones you went over. 1 2 and 4 as its own timeline awesome.
I have head canon where h20 takes place after 6. When i was a kid and h20 came out, i didnt realize it was a whole different timeline. So in my head Laurie gave jaime up for adoption to protect her and then faked her death. Michael found Jaime (the same way he found Laurie after escaping the asylum, he just knew it was her when he saw her), and then later found Laurie again somehow. Since Jaime was dead he had to go looking for her, and with loomis gone and the cult destroyed, he had time to look for her Though, i do pretend Ressurrection didnt happen. Because F that
I've created my own timeline with some changes. It consists of the og Halloween, Halloween 2 with them still being siblings,Michael survives & is captured & Loomis doesn't survive. It continues with Halloween 2018 with Laurie having Jamie (played by Danielle Harris) as her daughter & Allyson as her granddaughter. Michael is told he now has a niece and a grandniece and breaks out. Kills still happens minus the other escaped patient side story. Michael kills Jamie at the end of Kills. Michael survives his beating but collapses & goes into a coma & is nursed by a hermit similar to Halloween 5. He then awakes in Ends when Allyson gives birth 4 years later. Ends happens with no Corey storyline instead it is with Michael going after Laurie,Allyson and her child. Laurie and Michael die together in the movie and Allyson is the sole survivor with her baby.
My preferred timeline is Halloween and Halloween II. The three characters story ended in that film: ( Loomis' sacrifice, Michael's death, and Laurie had left to parts unknown ) Yes there's H20 and 4 that take place after Halloween II, and I love both of them but it felt really final in Halloween II with that hospital fire in 1981.
I know some people complain that they made too many of these movies but I'm here for all of them. The Halloween franchise is a blast and there's just no way to replace an icon like Michael Myers. I'll gladly keep watching new movies and timelines (But I gotta say, I'm ready for Jason and Freddy to get their reboots)
I wish Halloween was just 1978, H20, 2018, Kills and Ends. If Halloween was just 5 movies instead of 13 that would be great. I can see Indiana Jones, Harry Potter and John Wick being a franchise but rushing another Michael Myers movie just because of F13 and Nightmare being so popular i'm sorry no i just don't like rushed movies. Halloween 2 81, Season of the Witch, 4 5 Resurrection and 6 were rushed
Purist Timeline all the way for me. However, I can never get enough of Myers. Any Halloween movie we get is still fun for me, no matter how “bad” it may be.
Bonus fan timeline: H1, H2, H4, (H5 & H6 if you want), and H20 (H8 if you want) Takes some stretching, but not impossible to think Laurie faked her death and moved away, and it does add to the damage she has in H20. Also, people theorize the clown mask Myers originally had on while killing his sister was some proto-shamrock mask, so pehaps you can create a timeline that has H1 and H3, although I'd have to watch H3 again to see if there would be any glaring contradictions
The Loomis time line (H1, H2 and H4) is by far the best for me, but if i have to choose a 2nd timeline it's the H20 timeline (H1, H2, and H20) but the other movies which aren't in these 2 time lines i seen them all multiple times but just don't have much of an effect on me. Thank you cody, love your vids and ideas 💕
Believe it or not, when I first got into the Halloween films, I didn't realise H20 was ignoring the Thorn Trilogy. I thought Laurie faked her death, left Jamie behind and had another kid 🤣 When you think about it though, Laurie has had 3 different kids in 3 different timelines. Just imagine them meeting each other in some kind of multiversal clash. We never got to see Jamie Lee Curtis and Danielle Harris together.
*Thank God Disney don't own the rights because you Just know they would make that multiverse canon. "Halloween: into the multiverse of Michael" or something stupid like that.
I feel like I used to think the same thing. I suppose there is an argument that could be made for that timeline existing, and thus the first eight films (minus Season of the Witch) are all in the same timeline.
I actually have my own specific timeline that is my own personal head cannon. My favorite version of the story is Essentially the h20 timeline but add H4 in there. The biggest problem with it is that it makes Laurie look like A terrible person for leaving Jamie loyd behind. Maybe just add some dialogue that says Laurie believes she wasn’t fit to be a parent yet, So she left Jamie behind. But she heard about what happened in H4 so that adds even more trauma and gilt And add a line saying mickles body was never found
Lol, I've done something similar and made in my head H1,H2,2018 my timeline, H2 did happen but was undisclosed to hide any questionable motives that Micheal went after Laurie specifically which could reveal the sibling connection and to hide the true terrors. The victims in H2 on record died from fire in hospital and Micheal was never there, Micheal survived burns and put in institution until 2018, explains damage to his face better being burns rather than the clothes hook in H1 which was unlikely to cause that damage to eye and around it, when Micheal mask came of in H1 his eye was closed but no bleeding,swelling nothing. The bullets to Micheal eyes at end of 2 may be difficult to get around, they was blanks, Loomis had two guns he did give Laurie the spare or bullets move went through face at angles not fatal which does happen.
I think 1, 2, 4, and H20 make a great timeline as well. I know the detectives at the beginning of H20 don't mention the events of 4 and only refer back to 1978's events, but that doesn't mean 4 didn't happen. There's enough there to connect 4 to H20. (Laurie mentioning she faked her death and the bloody scissors in the opening credits that Jamie used). I look at John as Laurie and Jimmy's son.
Thank you for everything you post on our favorite horror franchises. I always found the final act of Halloween 5 to be scary and intense. I also thought his mask was scary in Part 5 but many people hate it and openly mock it. I understand that the story is f'd though, I agree there. For me, there are at least 5 Halloween movies worse than Revenge. (Halloween III, Halloween Ressurection, The Zombie films, and Halloween Ends IMO) Total respect for your opinion though, you're never wrong in how you feel and that's important for discussion. We agree on #1 easy, Part 1, part 2, and H20 are great. Great post.
Usually, I prefer thinking of H78 as a standalone. Some of the sequels are good (or even great). But the first one is so elegantly simple that you'll never make something that quite matches up. But I enjoy most of the sequels, honestly.
To me, my favourite timeline is Halloween 1978 and Halloween II 1981. I do like Kills, 2018, and decently like H20 but for me only the first two films are canon to me. Halloween III I also accept but this is only for the Michael Myers timelines
Awesome ranking video. My favorite timeline from this franchise are the purist timeline. Dr. Loomis timeline, Curse of Thorn timeline and Davis Gordan Green timeline.
Cool vid! Out of all these, the Loomis timeline is my favorite. I would actually like a legacy sequel to Halloween 4. I'm pretty sure Danielle Harris and Ellie Cornell would return. Couldn't be more embarrassing than part 5. But I imagine there's not much commercial appeal in that as H4 isn't the classic the original is... yet.
I just can’t fathom why studios can’t produce a film that just sticks to Michael and building a very scary presence for him again. I honestly hate that most these reboots focus so heavily on Laurie w/ Michael. I don’t want that. I want a storyline where Michael is once again motiveless and just stalking random people and characters. Due to being stuck so hard to the original Laurie character the stories are doomed to fail because they don’t want to the sister connection. Please, I hope another reboot can just focus on Michael and let it become a Friday the 13th kinda story. Where Michael is just slashing random people and what Michael is, is slowly explained through the course of films. Like as of Halloween Kills eliminated most the mob aspect and Laurie. Instead focusing on a group learning about him going back home and learning about the window thing. The rest of the film is just highlighting Michael and making him terrifying again. No Laurie, no cringey writing, and no dumb characters.
100 percent agree, the H20 is the top of the top for me. I do like a couple of the other ones, I think Halloween 4 was the first one I saw as a kid and I really appreciate it. But the H20 timeline is fantastic. H20 did so many of the ideas that the new trilogy tried and did it better. That version of Laurie is so much stronger. And I know you talked about it in another video, yes it's influenced by Scream but that's fine! why not! And the ending rocks. That's the content we deserve.
I know this technically wouldn’t count because it’s a mix in two different timelines and there’s a lot of plot holes with it. But for me having Halloween 1 2 4 and H2O would be the best.
I like that one as well. I know the 2 detectives in the beginning of H20 don't mention the events of 4 and only refer back to 1978's events, but that doesn't mean 4 didn't happen. There's enough there to connect 4 to H20. (Laurie mentioning she faked her death and the bloody scissors in the opening credits that Jamie used). I look at John as Laurie and Jimmy's son.
This is well done 👏; I don't think Halloween 4's mask was that bad as everyone makes it, it was frightening and nothing wrong with it being clean, you couldn't see his eyes either which I like, you all can't tell me if your saw an entity looking like that when you turn a dark corner you wouldn't be frightened, there should've been a 2008 movie sans Zombie.
The Loomis timeline is my favorite. Jamie Lloyd and Dr. Loomis deserved better than H5 and H6. H4 is still my favorite Halloween movie of the franchise.
I was surprised that you weren't a big fan of 2018. I personally like the "H40" timeline, and I did like Kills and Ends as well, although they felt connected but also not connected at the same time due to each movie being a different genre essentially. For consistency though, Halloween and 2018 fulfills me. It also limits the amount of supernatural that he displays, which Kills threw out the window as soon as he survived the fire, let alone the mob beat down scene. That final shot of him on 2018, where he is engulfed in flames and seemingly just doesn't care is one of the coolest shots. The idea that he could die from that and display no care about it is pretty awesome in my opinion. I also would have been cool with him dying after Kills. He takes out the mob, goes back home and either kills Karen, or is about to kill her and he drops dead/unconscious. Just a man with a supernatural edge who was hopped up on crazy.
Tough to say what my best timeline would be. I feel like you def need halloween and Halloween II. Idk if it should end, include 4, or include H20. I don’t really love H20 but like the third act and the finality of it. I think I lean more towards 1,2,and 4 as the best timeline tho. I love the downbeat ending with evil continuing.
I agree with you on Ends I love Cory and that story of transferring evil to him thought that was cool it just felt out of place compered to kills and ends but I still can watch it and enjoy it 8/10 for me.
For me, my definitive is Halloween 1, 2 & 3 as a trilogy. 1 & 2 are their own story with a complete end of Loomis as a martyr & Michael dead. 3 is a stand-alone. Runner-up would be 1, 2 & 4 with everything coming full-circle with Jamie and Loomis completely breaking down. Roll credits.
I think my favorite timeline is the Loomis/Family curse timeline. The more I think about it, the ending of 4 is a perfect ending for me. It captures pretty much everything I love about the Halloween franchise and leaves off with the idea that the evil spreads and never dies
PHENOMENAL VIDEO Cody !! I like how you can address flaws to movies we still love and differentiate the timelines ! My favorite Halloween video of yours
H1 and H2 and finished is my personal fav as much as I love 4 and alot of the other films, Halloween II is one of the best sequels of all time imo and ends perfectly
The worst part of 4 is that the mask itself is fine it’s the ton of paint they had to put on it because they somehow ordered a Pink one with blonde hair… Also agree H20 is probably the only film without Loomis where it’s not felt really.
The Halloween comics say that Halloween H20 takes place in both the second timeline and the third timeline. So you can put Resurrection in both or just one.
