Ranking The Moral Alignment In Every Grand Theft Auto Game 

having CJ as chaotic good when he literally buried someone alive in concrete because his crew catcalled his sister is crazy

42:48 Side note: someone pointed out that Florian went through the same war and betrayal that Niko did, so despite his "flamboyant" demeanor, he's potentially as tough as Niko is. He just chose a more peaceful way of living.

I thought for sure that catalina was gonna be chaotic evil for San Andreas but i can see why you picked Big Smoke

This is how you know this series is fucked, in anything else Ray and Donald would be in Evil but in GTA they're in Neutral

PUTS TREVOR IN CHAOTIC EVIL "This is going to be controversial..." WHY SOMEONE WOULD THINK THAT????

Is funny how the gta fanbase always ignore how evil Trevor is just because "wah wah no ones loves me wah wah everyone abandons me" (i wonder why). He mentally abuses of both Ron and Wade, raped Floyd and killed him and Debra

In my opinion the worst thing Carl did was crashing that car with the record producer and his girlfriend in it into the ocean so they'd drown. Neither one of them deserved to die, he did it for OG Loc who he doesn't even like, and he weirdly seems to take a sick pleasure in their fear. It's just so weird because for the majority of the game he's fairly principled for a criminal and then in that mission he's randomly a stone cold psychopath.

It’s funny seeing Dave Norton being the one Lawful Good corrupt cop on this list. When I saw that was for lawful good character for GTA 5 the first thing that came to mind was, “Some of the government…. Some of it is pretty corrupt”

Imo Officer Hernandez from SA would be a Lawful Good type. The only crime he commits himself that we know of is forced on him, and he spends his entire time trying to get dirt on the corrupt CRASH division. He’s a good guy, and even risks his life to save CJ. I think he’s one of the few cop characters in the series who has noble intentions and didn’t willingly do anything wrong. Only issue with placing him is the fact he’s basically a background character.

Little Jacob makes a fine alternative for either Neutral Good or Chaotic Good in GTA4. Despite being immersed in the criminal underworld, he is insanely loyal to his friends, often the voice of reason (in the Roman death outcome he pulls Nico off the assassin, and encourages him to flee), and charges in via chopper in both endings. A true “Ride or Die”.

Thanks for acknowledging that this list is a "Best fits" list. I don't think any major player in SD or HD GTA is even close to actually being Lawful. Either in literal "Follows the law" to the more accepted "Follows a code, personal or otherwise". Betrayal is a pretty common theme for almost every game, so main and secondary characters rarely if ever are entirely "predictable" for lack of a better word.

39:50 I can’t blame Kate for being to preachy since she doesn’t want to see her brothers and Niko get brutally killed due to their criminal activity or they will likely become just like her abusive father.

1:08:02 Amanda is lawful? There’s a mission where Michael has to save her from being arrested for shoplifting. Obviously not nearly as unlawful as Michael, but she’s not without her own unforced wrongdoings.

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Trevor as chaotic evil was the first thing I thought of when I saw the title of this video, so I think you're right about him 100%. I think lists like these might be easier if you don't think of 'lawful' as abiding by the US laws, but instead a law or code that a character lives by. For example the bikers are outlaws, but they do have a code.

It must be extremely stressful to create this video. However, great job on not only completing this video, but I strongly agree with the placements and explanation for each character from each game. 👌👌

A lot "Good people" in GTA are just people whom hustle for living and didn't betray anyone, It's might sound easy but one wrong move moral alignment will change forever lol.

I would say the british couple in gta 5 are more sciopathic then Trevor cause in the first cutscene they literally weird him out

great video man, thanks for a great listen while gaming

In my opinion Jim Fitzgerald fits more into Lawful Good as he (in the perspective of that game) followed and protected his brothers till he died, doing anything and everything within their rules to do so. Man's a treasure(er)

I’m so glad I found this channel every video is a banger

Very unique video for sure. Really enjoyed it

Never thought I'd be early to a TBD video but here we are let's get into it

I love these types of character breakdowns, especially this series.

You make a good point about San Andreas. However with mad dog being lawful neutral makes no sense. That title should go either Caesar or Woozie & vice versa for good. However, the real mix up is the evil slots. Loc shouldn't even be there, because it's Loc. Lawful would go to Sweet, since what he's about is his hood & principles. Not good in the slightest, but in the sense where it's mainly because of his environment. Same goes for Smoke, but because was clearly brainwashed by the money & promises of Tenpenny. Which led him to that state of where he was, for not being seen as serious like Ryder(which got a crap ending on his end) Tenpenny the embodiment of chaotic evil. It's all because of him, which why all that happened. He was setting Smoke up to be the Drug lord & take cuts, pinning gangs against each other (as seen them living in "peace" in 5), & kills whoever gets in his way. He literally has his hands in every pot of the story, that brought nothing but betrayal, destruction, & death.

Yay another video! I love gta so i think this will be interesting

Insulting Angus since he's in a wheelchair oh my 😂

Great video as always! But damn, I wish more people liked Huang Lee as much as I did, his snark was always entertaining in my opinion 😂

The cool thing about gta3 is that there are some familiar voices in the game one of them being the guy who does Salvatore’s voice I can’t remember the actors name but he was in both goodfellas and the sopranos!

8-ball was a nice guy. RIP GURU

mentioning kidnapping, cannibalism and potentially (probably not tho) rape, would have nailed the chaotic evil sign into trevor's head, lol

So many upstanding characters in this series!

Only one thing, you say Donald will never become as bad ad Avery but you blow up half of liberty city for him in LCS

Oh boy opening a new can of worms.mmmmmm bacon worms.

26:32 Ole girl was jonesing for Narcan 😂😂

Amanda in GTA 5 did get caught shoplifting so I’d have to put her down at chaotic evil

Babe wake up its bacon

I'm likely gonna have to edit this at times, but oh well. It's easier to get thoughts down as I go. I'd argue Claude is on the precipice of becoming a Chaotic Stupid. Someone who only picks the Chaotic Neutral alignment because they think they'll be allowed to do whatever they want without consequences. And thus go on constant killing sprees. Claude only does this when told to, but based on your description of the rest, I'd say he's real close to an alignment shift. Your Lawful Evil guy actually fits the bill perfectly. I and others interpret Lawfuls as those who may follow laws sure, but it can also fit those with more personal laws for themselves or those they work with. So long as they follow those strictly more often than not. If I recall right, Mafia families have always been known for rules within the family to maintain order and the bonds required to keep business as usual running. So yeah Lawful Evil for your Mafia guy suits him just fine by that logic in actuality. I'd say the Vice City one checks out just fine, not much to really say on that one. Especially given the game itself seems to not have much to work with. Yep San Andres also checks out on this one. Luckily the characters have more to work with by the sound of it. Not to mention there's more of them too. Ok after this one Imma just wait and see if any games also have alignment charts that are just fine and fit everyone properly before saying anything more. All Imma say for Liberty City Stories in particular is that once again we see alignment shifts. Course the shifts happen in a previous game in the video as this is a prequel.

loved the video but slight editing mistake at 28:28

18:25 OUT OF ALL THE CLIPS THIS ONE 😭💀💀

Nice!

I agree with Franklin being True Neutral, though I think he is slightly more interesting than what you gave him credit for, and that's mainly because of the duality between him and Lamar. Lamar, as much as he has a chip on his shoulder, is stuck in the gang life metality and for the majority of the game is off doing gang stuff, with Franklin coming along with him because that's his friend and he has to make sure he is safe. Franklin goes along with everything mainly because he doesn't really know what to do in terms of being bigger than what he was born into, which is why he works mainly under Micheal at the start since Franklin saw an chance to make it bigger even though he just stole Jimmy's car. I will agree that out of the protagonists he is the straight man of the bunch, but it's also because of Trevor and Micheal being almost opposites in terms of personality. He is pretty loyal to his friends and does speak up with his own personal feelings like when he yelled at Micheal and Trevor when they were arguing just to give a polite hello to Lester or when he apologized to Trevor for laughing that he fell.

Not going to lie that be cool if you made one of these type of videos for crash bandicoot or mortal kombat

I think of the evil alignment characters in the series Trevor Philips is the most chaotic of them all but on the lower end of the evil side, while Dimitri Rascalov is the most evil character in the whole series. Even Devin Weston and Ray Bulgarin have more of a heart than Dimitri does, Dimitri is the purest form of evil in the series, a true monster.

I understand that things have to stretched to fit the alignment chart, and the work done here is trumendous but I had to give a clear indication of what the alignment chart means, The video is created with the assumption that the viewer has an understanding of the alignment chart, However the video lacks to explain what the alignment is, and often places characters on the chart in consideration to their methods and not the understanding of their nature. As stated in Basic D&D pg.55: Law (or Lawful) is the belief that everything should follow an order, and that obeying rules is the natural way of life. Lawful creatures will try to tell the truth, obey laws, and care about all living things. Lawful characters always try to keep their promises. They will try to obey laws as long as such laws are fair and just. If a choice must be made between the benefit of a group or an individual, a Lawful character will usually choose the group. Sometimes individual freedoms must be given up for the good of the group. Lawful characters and monsters often act in predictable ways. Lawful behavior is usually the same as behavior that could be called "good." Chaos (or Chaotic) is the opposite of Law. It is the belief that life is random, and that chance and luck rule the world. Everything happens by accident and nothing can be predicted. Laws are made to be broken, as long as a person can get away with it. It is not important to keep promises, and lying and telling the truth are both useful. To a Chaotic creature, the individual is the most important of all things. Selfishness is the normal way of life, and the group is not important. Chaotics often act on sudden desires and whims. They cannot be trusted, their behavior is hard to predict. They have strong belief in the power of luck. Chaotic behavior is usually the same as behavior that could be called "evil." Neutrality (or Neutral) is the belief that the world is a balance between Law and Chaos. It is important that neither side get too much power and upset this balance. The individual is important, but so is the group; the two sides must work together. A Neutral character is most interested in personal survival. Such characters believe in their own wits and abilities rather than luck. They tend to return the treatment they receive from others. Neutral characters will join a party if they think it is in their own best interest, but will not be overly helpful unless there is some sort of profit in it. Neutral behavior may be considered "good" or "evil" (or neither), depending on the situation. AD&D and beyond consider the "Good" "Neutral" and "Evil" affixes to explain a character's justification for their goals which could be altruistic benefits for the group, or selfish benefits at the expense of others. For example, the average person is considered to be true neutral, they have a stable way of life and if things happen to them they will take the rout of least resistance to return things to a place of "normalcy", they will consider the benefit of self and a close group of family, they will not thing if their means justify the end goal or if their desires come at a sense of altruism or exploitation.

Is the game title on the slide at 28:25 intentional or a mistake?

Please do this concept on sleeping dogs next and saints row if you’ve played themm

Im not going to lie when he was talked about Tony i didn't notice at first he changed it from lcs to bgt 😂

20:55 I would put toreno in lawfull evil tbh, I think he is doing stuff that isn't good such as killing lots of ppl, stealing jets from the military and much more, but I can understand that he is a agent of the goverment and well he is doing it for the better of his country

Hey Wade isn’t that bad, he has the distinction of being basically the only character that’s mostly nice to huang although not at first.

.............."AWHILE BACK"

I think if you're trying to judge the personality and alignment of a player character, you can mainly only judge them based on decisions that the player doesn't have input on. Cutscenes and mandatory mission objectives are fair game, but player actions performed unprompted aren't. Optional but intentional side activities, optional mission objectives and choices given to the player that affect the story are a bit of a gray area and could go either way. Like, It's safe to assume that CJ did some home invasions himself after he helped Ryder rob the veteran's house, but Tommy Vercetti probably didn't go on a series of random, unprompted rampages across Vice City.

Dramatic recreation 😂😂😂

Let’s gooo!

I had a ripped version of GTA 3 on pc and I’ll never forget how blunt the cheats were. Want a tank type in GIVEMEATANK 😂. But my favorite cheat ever was in GTA 1 where to get everything you changed your name to THESHIT

What's funny about Trevor is that he's either Lawful or Chaotic depending on your interpretation of what Lawful means.

For gta 4 chaotic neutral i think the perfect fit wouldve been Mikhail Faustin, brucie is only chaotic when hes in his roid rage and when he comes off of it he kinda realizes hes been acting insane lol, but hes a total idiot so he goes right back to it, so it doesnt totally not fit

Dave isn't lawful good, he got all the glory for changing Michael's identity. Every month he got some amount of money from Michael, mostly from the job Michael did.

Holy crap what a long video. (Adjusting pants) Let’s get to it then.

The fact Madrazo doesn't retaliate against Trevor is 100% out of kindness. Bro has more than enough money/resources to kill whoever he wants.

Trevor is very much a likable monster

“Shit rocketing fanward” was amazing I gotta give it to you

I definitely disagree with Tommy and Niko’s placements. Before Trevor, Tommy was easily the most violent and evil GTA protagonist. His main goal is to become the kingpin of Vice City and he’s one of the only ones where killing civilians is canon to the story. Niko is likeable but he has the highest body count of any protagonist and doesn’t seem to regret or moralize any of his actions in the game and is willing to betray a lot of his employers. I think Tommy fits better in neutral evil and Niko fits better in chaotic neutral imo.

Amanda isn't lawful she has a side mission where she gets caught stealing and you have to save her, making her a fugitive, but small things

1:06:03 dave didn't do the deal for info, michael needed go get out of the game, and he meet him somewhere, where they made a deal, Trevor was supposed to be killed, and brad goes to jail and Michael disappears and he keeps paying dave 5 figures a month

Wait, Phil Cassidy actually got sober in “Vice City Stories”? I thought he was mouthing off and was continuing to drink.

trevor is a good guy at heart

Why is zhao not on the Chinatown wars list? He’s a total psychopath, he was blowing up cars by willing firing a mini gun at them In public. He wanted Huang to make sure a man didn’t die in an ambulance just so zhao could kill that man himself by brutally butchering him graphically. And when Huang had arrived to kill zhao, then zhao had an attack helicopter ready to kill Huang. Why would you leave this guy off the list? Atleast replace Rudy with zhao.

Ryder couldn't be on the list knowning how his role was clearly changed - with his original loyal role, he would be perfect chaotic good.

I feel as if Tenpenny should be Neutral Evil seeing as how he'd have other officers killed, even those riding with him, to further himself showing he follows no real code, but has the sense to do it in a way to make himself seem innocent of it, meaning not Chaotic. Big Smoke on the other hand, only got to where he was because he followed along with Tenpenny and not stepping out of line with them, making Smoke Lawful Evil. I would even go so far as to say CJ is Neutral in the sense that all he really wants is to get him and his brother out of the gang life while Grove is being taken over. He only agrees when Sweet pushes him to stay and fight back. Sweet is probably Neutral, just due to being the leader of Grove Families. Granted I haven't played the game in years and could be misremembering some details.

I remember that comment

Funny thing about the Pegorino Crime Family, they're not only notorious but is comedically unpopular, Liberty Tree always make speculations about the events that happened in Pegorino's missions, their name was never mentioned at all Unlike the crime families in Liberty City, once the Pegorinos did had power or did finally became well known, nobody likes them and no one respects them unlike when other people did respect Gravelli

Wade Heston redeeming himself by not arresting wang at the end of game. Character similar to him would've stab wang in the back.

Iiiii....don't think you fully understand how the D&D alignment system works but i agree that Trevor is a complete monster. I remember being extremely pissed when he killed Johnny K D:

I agreeded with most of your pics but I feel Avery karington from Vice city was more morally good compared to his apprentice Donald love who eats people and has the main character blow part of a city instead of a still developing building. So I feel he was far more evil then his mentor.

CJ good? After the construction mission

In the grim dark future of the 2nd millenium, everything now runs on dnd rules.

I didn't play GTA 5 but I knew Trevor was going to fit a particular position

I'm gonna have to disagree with LCS Toni being put in chaotic neutral. The guy murders and displaces at least hundreds of innocent civilians by blowing up Fort Staunton.

1:06:03 Michael was not in witness protection

I don’t think any character could be called “lawful”

If anyone is lawful good it’s definitely Floyd. Dude is one of the few law abiding citizens in the series. He just wants to go to work, marry his girlfriend and give her a great life. The worse he does is harbor Trevor and Wade who are criminals in his apartments and help Trevor in the Merryweather heist but he’s being forced in all of that and literally has no choice since it’s all being ran from his home

Saving maria just to shoot her at the end feels like something catalina would do.

I would say some Mafia guys are lawful in GTA3. They apply to some laws and morals. In my opinion they are very lawful in a way. Just not applying to the law of the US Maybe I misunderstand the concept bit Mercedes is not lawful as far as I get it. She has no sense of order or anything. Her actions are immoral. So I can see her as more of a chaotic good. Or am I getting it wrong?

TBP doing another GTA video?! This is too good NOT to watch!

I think there are some good-aligned characters in GTA 5 that are better fits than Dave, Martin, and Lamar. Solomon Richards (Lawful Good) is a kind yet eccentric old movie producer who wants to ensure his movie is made through more or less lawful means but Michael has his way of being an assistant. Tanisha Jackson (Neutral Good) is also a good-hearted person who doesn't break the law and tries to have a stable life with a brain-surgeon or lawyer, she still cares for her old friends Franklin and Lamar even though they are involved in criminal activity. Jimmy De Santa (Chaotic Good) is naive, dumb, and a bit selfish wanting to sell his dad's boat to gangsters but cares for his family and wants to be a good friend to Franklin. He also saves his family from one Merryweather goon in the movie premiere mission. GTA V: LG - Solomon Richards NG - Tanisha Jackson CG - Jimmy De Santa LN - Dave Norton or Molly Schultz TN - Franklin Clinton CN - Michael De Santa LE - Steve Haines NE - Devin Weston CE - Trevor Phillips

how the hell is tommy lawful good, when the guy is a literal drug lord. if anyone was to be picked for lawful good it has to be CJ, since he literaly left the gang life because he didnt want that kind of violence. but was forced back. he does turn chaotic good later, but that's it. but overall, they are all chaotic neutral at best.

I would put Claude in neutral evil since he is a psychopath that only cared about himself in the game. he is only focused.on his own plans getting revenge on Catalina and has no regards to be loyal to anyone else but to people he will benefit from to achieve his goals. This makes sense, because the only difference between neutral evil and lawful evil is that a neutral evil would have no limits and have questionable morals of what kind of evil they would do to anyone in a way that is unpredictable. It is more ethical, ambiguous alignment for sure and Tommy is just chaotic good because he is a psychotic killer who has no stable contact on reality because of psychological issues he went through from being put in prison and all of the immoral acts he did in order to get revenge can be justified because he lies, cheats, and manipulates people that deserve it.

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Franklin is boring but at least more likable than most characters in gta v

I will play devil's advocate and say, Trevor should have been chaotic neutral, he is not evil evil, and we know his backstory, he was in the way to become an airforce pilot, but was deem too mentally unstable and was about to be honourably dismissed for health and safety reasons, but however, michael goed him into a crime life and encouraged him in his worse tendencies, a victim of circumstances if you will, michael basically left him for dead by the time amanda rolled in, and had not michael or amanda rolling into to ruin his life, trevor would not end up being any worse that carl or franklin, a piece of nothing protagonist that sees no difference between stealing a parled car and behead someone with a shotgun at point blank

Franklin is likeable

I still think CJ was a good guy in a bad situation

Isn't Huang alive?

Do one with manhunt?

You forgot GTA: Online

The thumbnail does not give me confidence that this will be a good tier list….. let us seee.

A-soo-ka 😂

I would like to see the same type of video, but for the God Of War franchise

Timestamps?