@@GabrielMicheal77710 What is even more insane is, why didn't she take the solo name??? She cared for all 3, but alas it still sad how the literally took them all out and now an palpatine takes everything
Ben Skywalker is one of my fave Legends characters, his sass and wit aside, his potential was what I found extremely interesting about him. We see glimpses of his true potential at certain points in Fate of the Jedi, specifically I believe during Apocalypse. Like being able to unleash a concentrated telekinetic blast of the Force strong enough to destroy a Capital ship, in a "holy hand grenade" on Abeloth. Or being able to achieve a form of Oneness with the Force, a state of immense power at any rate, that unlike Jacen (following his battle with Onimi) was not stated to be unachievable again. When you have literal Cthulhu from the time of Force Gods claiming Ben has the potential to become the next "Daughter", then that is high praise indeed.
Leia had some very impressive feats in the last Legends Novel Crucible, where she was able to keep up with a Post Abeloth fight Luke. Granted, Luke wasn't at his best at the time, but together with her brother, Leia had some straight up "Anakin on Mortis" level feats (well, Crucible is weird, they might have actually BEEN on Mortis).
It was decent but nothing in Crucible compares to Mortakin dominating the two representations of Light and Darkness whose power was suggested by the Father to tear apart the fabric of the Universe. Not even close to that. Mortakin is way beyond anything from either Leia or Luke, especially since Abeloth scales below the Father on account of him being the one to personally intervene and imprison her, and Luke struggled enormously against her on multiple occasions.
@@SuperSirius11 dude eu Leia was more powerful than anakin ever was, the mortis feat is king of overrated because the planet they were was a strong force nexus anakin couldn't never archive that level of power by himself ever again because he lacks of acknowledge of the force why luke and Leia open up more to the will of the force.
Could you imagine if Leia HAD fully committed to being a Jedi? Not only would her own power have grown but I think Luke would have gotten even stronger too. If they had both thrown themselves into training together, I believe their twin-connection in the Force would have subconsciously pushed them to be equals in all measures like a more-productive and healthy version of sibling rivalry. Twin Jedi Grandmasters, the two most powerful Force-users in history. I want that.
Jaina actually retreated after the first duel, and as you note Jacen was focused on saving his daughter(Jaina outright admits he could end her with one final blast) he just chose not too.
True, yet some components in both duels also indicate how close and relative the adult twins are. With Battle-meditation, it can only enhance an individual to the peak of their capabilities, and minorly weaken the opposition. In the duel on Tython, Jedi masters Raskta Lsu and Valentyne Farfalla were enhanced, ye repeatedly out-fought, over-powered and dominated by Darth Bane; orbalisks aside the sheer magnitude and skill Bane carried outweighed the enhanced Jedi. And Darth Zannah managed to hold her ground against Sarro Xaj and stage manage him and Johun Othone under the detrimental side of Battlemeditation. Jaina Fel against Darth Caedus, she was much more dominant in the duel with him, and without battle-meditation she still held her own; to the point neither her nor Caedus could identify Shatterpoints in the other. Caedus did concede the fight to warn Tenel Ka and save their daughter, after Jaina managed to ambush him and still they dueleld evenly (given Caedus' own sense talents and surviving Mara jade's ambushes less wounded, that is impressive on Jaina's part).
She was dominant in the second duel because Caedus literally did not want to fight her. He would have preferred she had just walked away. Caedus had also sustained severe injuries including a severed arm and as you note his attention was divided. Jaina constantly needed Luke to either mess with Jacen’s visions, outright projected force illusions or other amplifications. And even then when Caedus is explicitly stated to be a walking dead man requiring the force to simply stand-he still might have won, if the reason he didn’t become a Sith Lord in the first place was not in jeopardy.
@@lordinvictus793 I wrote that Jaina was dominant in the 1st duel between them, on Nickel One, and in the 2nd clash Jaina did ambush Darth Caedus, Caedus fought back, and both of them square-on couldn't identify a chink or advantage over the other, and had to draw-out the fight or move elsewhere. If the gap your advocating between Jaina nad Caedus was present, the dynamics of those contests would have mirrored Farfalla and Raskta Lsu's performance against Darth Bane; not with her pressing Caedus back and severing his arm on Nickel One, or both of them wounding each other and duelling (swordsmanship) evenly on the Anakin Solo.
@@geoffreyedgson7875 Caedus was superior to Jaina in the force. Mind you he managed to fight GM Luke in Inferno and not die immediately. There is a gap. Caedus is either distracted, occupied, or simply badly injured throughout every fight in Invincible. Even in the first duel-Jaina escaped because Caedus was tricked by Luke. Jaina never engages Jacen when he is at the peak of his abilities, he doesn't have Luke screwing with him, or he is actually focused on defeating his sister. The comparison is apples and oranges.
@@lordinvictus793 Absolutely. Yet Anakin Skywalker was superior Force-wise to Kenobi (majority of categories), Darth Sidious was superior to Windu, Dasaan had greater magnitude and could use Force-illusions on Yavin when Katarn defeated him, and Force-wise Darth Maul was at least 2 classes above Knight/Padawan-Kenobi on Naboo. Force-wise there is a significant gap between the developed powers, repertoire and magnitude between Darth Caedus and Jaina. They do share comparable innate aptitude though and developed via different avenues, with Jaina likely ahead combat-skill wise,f a better infiltrator since outside GM Luke's jamming, she successfully ambushed Caedus, twice (making that a consistent feat), and she could achieve a degree of immersion within the Force which Evannova95 compared to "Pseudo-Oneness," which Caedus no longer does. Separate to that, in the first duel on Nickel One between Caedus & Jaina, Caedus deliberately allowed Jaina to get away so he could utilize a Nightsister blood-trail to follow her back to the Jedi. True, a straight-up, 1-on-1, honour-duel scenario never occurred between Darth Caedus and Jaina. Yet at the same time, in battle, with larger risks and consequences involved, the Jedi and Jaina chose to be practical instead of honourable (avoiding the traps the Old Jedi Order walked into on Geonosis or the Chancellor's office) I am not arguing that Jaina is above Caedus. Yet, to have any capacity to threaten him, or fight Caedus directly should any trap fail get half results (as they did) she could still have a foot in the door to defeat him.
Also I just want to say that Jaina in Fate Of The Jedi Apocalypse says “Ben your a fairly sensitive young man, and as strong in The Force as your father.” This was said in the book after Jaina went to Abeloths planet to pick up Ben. This really makes me believe that Ben like his father has The Force Potential of the Chosen One. And it makes sense too if you think about it. After the events of Fate Of The Jedi. Ben was out hunting Sith of the Lost Tribe he had to have been an integral part in restoring order and balance after their emergence. It is also said in Legacy Of The Force that Luke is the only one sure to beat Caedus. And Luke has the Chosen Ones Force Potential. And during Caedus fight with Jaina he practically resigned from the fight so he could save his daughter.
Yeah as an aside though. It’s noted in Invincible itself Jacen is the stronger, and as badly injured as he was(he’s described as requiring the force to just keep standing) he could have won, he just had something more important to do. That point I think is under emphasized whenever Caedus is brought up.
why? Disney was the one who jettisoned the EU out of existence and Kathleen said there were no material to draw on. No thanks. Don't want Disney to touch the EU after they had already destroyed the franchise with the ST
@@lapplandkun9273 actually george lucas and filoni were still at the helm in 2012-13 when that happened in the first place. not all kathleen's fault :)
No surprise that Luke Skywalker was at the S rank on the list. This was one of your best non-VS videos I’ve seen. Since you had done a video like this, can you do a ranking video of apprentices trained by Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader? After all, we know that the Chosen One had trained a lot of Force Users in his life.
I likely think Lumiya or Mara Jade is in the top, with Ahsoka likely being the lower end of the spectrum but not the bottom, as that would be the Disney Fodder Inquisitors.
Here’s an interesting matchup, a free-for-all battle between three extremely powerful Sith Masters in galactic history: Darth Sidious (Dark Empire) vs Darth Caedus vs Darth Krayt (Resurrected)
We have been watching your career with great interest for many years. Very nice to see you still making extremely detailed content all these years later.
Obviously Luke deserves the top spot. To my knowledge no other family member defeated (an exact clone of) Palpatine in a straight up duel. He mastered all forms of lightsaber combat AND redeemed Darth Vader.
Sidious was far more powerful than Luke in DE, the only reason Luke beat him was because he had lost all of his bodies that could actually use his full power.
The fact that you cited tons of evidence in your video speaks volumes of the amount of research you've conducted to make it. Thank you, good friend, and may the force be with you.
I remember a scene in the Vong series, Jacen is getting testy with Leia and she simply pins him with the force and he's powerless against her, if she had been trained she would've crushed them all
Jacen stomped Jaina in their first fight, and is strongly implied that he would have won their second, even though he was badly injured, if he actually tried. He also could have easily killed her if he wasn't trying to warn Tenel Ka about the danger Allana was in.
Great vid, reminds me a lot of the Star Wars Weakest to Strongest vids SeththeProgrammer did in terms of format. That mighty Skywalker blood is no joke.
I kinda hate all the stuff that's related to the Skywalker's after Luke and leia feels like they are just constantly trying to make the fans be like woah another Skywalker how crazy
Not only that but they have to be even more powerful than the last. Luke and Leia should be the only ones who could have become more powerful than their father (the literal Chosen One) only because he never reached his full potential. Any Skywalker born after the twins should have a substantially watered down potential.
Caedus doing so well against Jaina in their last fight was crazy. Dude had 1 arm, got stabbed in the gut before the fight began, and was constantly distracted by the imminent threat to Tenel Ka and Allana. He was so focused on saving tenel ka and allana that he even tried to leave without finishing the duel multiple times. Jaina was one of the most dangerous combatants alive and knew her brother like the back of her hand. Caedus still significantly injured her and Jaina even admitted he could’ve made her die alongside him if he hadn’t focused on warning Tenel Ka through the force.
I absolutely love your ending and how the SW multiverse would get destroyed if a Mortis-amped, full potential 3-way battle happened between those three. I would SO love to see it!
1.Amazing Video, even though I disagree with your placing with Anakin below Cade. Video ideas: 1.Ranking of combative/force feats 2.How powerful is Darth Revan/Reborn 3.Nomi Sunrider vs Darth Zannah (Obvious conclusion)
A question on "Oneness with The Force": Did Obi-Wan Kenobi achieve it, much like Jacen, or Anakin Solo, or Grandmaster Luke? I ask due to how The ROTS Novelization describes him "Letting The Force flow through him, rather than him tapping into The Force for his power". With a description like that, could Kenobi have gone all glowy-god-mode like Jacen Solo versus Omini; perhaps against General Grevious, or Darth Vader (Mustafar Duel)?
Great vid as always Evan! Really looking forward to ur what if dooku was redeemed. Would u be open to a versus between anakin and obi wan vs Revan and Malak (bro's vs bro's) and also potentially a vid ranking factions like jedi and sith from their weakest to most powerful era in star wars?? Either way I look forward to more vids.
I actually believe Shmi to be force sensitive but unware like Leia who didn't show her force sensitivity by ability until adulthood and training. I see parallels between Shmi and Mary mother of Christ who was said to be the most blessed among women and implied purity as in terms of sin. I think Shmi was seen by the Force the same way God saw Mary. So idk i think the Force would need a force sensitive woman to carry the Chosen one of the Force.
I am going to attempt to show that the Skywalkers' power levels are natural and NOT a product of Anakin's unique situation. 1) There are people who are strong in the Force with no ability to become Jedi or Sith. Two of these are Padmé Amidala and Han Solo. I believe that it might even be possible that such people subtly use the Force in forms of extraordinary persuasion or luck. These people, though lacking in trainable abilities, when married to either one another or to a Jedi, produce powerful Force Users. That being said, I believe the line of the Skywalkers from Shmi down always possessed the power to become the most powerful Jedi. 2) Shmi is NOT weak in the Force. While I agree with her ranking in the video, I believe that she shows multiple latent powers that would have been hers to command with knowledge and training. My first example of her Force potential is her involuntary parthenogenesis. The Force reacted harshly to the machinations of Darth Plagueis to create the ultimate Force sensitive being and created Anakin, but this did not occur in a vacuum. There was only one such pregnancy, and she was it. I do not believe that she was just a truly random pick, but the Force oriented itself to an individual who was already a strong, if untrained presence. Second, she not only can sense Anakin nearby in ways beyond the normal, but she knows that Anakin is not destined to a life of slavery but has a peculiar destiny, perhaps manifesting a latent inclanation with shatterpoint. She is also able to assure Anakin that she will be just fine if he leaves, and as we see her prediction to be accurate, she might be gifted with the ability to foresee what may be. We know that she is concerned for Anakin when he races, and her mind is bent toward him during that time, and the novelization of Phantom Menace describes Anakin as falling into an abnormal headspace while flying, and he always comes home mostly intact no matter the problems. I believe that this may display an embryonic talent with battle meditation. Lastly, when dying and under torture, she sends out an appeal to Anakin that drives him nearly crazy attempting to resolve it. Because all of this talent is raw and untrained, she deserves to be at the bottom of the list, but for untrained talent, one should neither underestimate the feats that we see even in latent form. 3) Yoda sense that Padmé is also strong in the Force, and she is noted to have a persuasive personality, and we see it time after time as she induces even Jedi to follow her, even when it goes both against their better judgment and even prior intentions. As her death approaches, she lays the plans for how Mon Mothma, Bail Organa, and other Senators will work against the Emperor while indicating that she will not be alive much longer, which also shows an ability to see the future. 4) Han is described as being strong in the Force, and though he evidenced fewer feats of precise latent Force, his incredible runs of luck are commented on, as is his flouting of nearly impossible odds, and his "bad feelings" are NEVER wrong. So, we have Shmi who appears to have latent talents that might have allowed her under other circumstances to be a powerful Jedi, whose far more powerful son marries a woman strong in the Force without any ability to use it. Their daughter marries a man like her mother and the son marries a former Dark Side adept who is arguably for decades the second strongest Master in the new Jedi Order, and possibly would have been in the uppermost ranks of the old Order. The great-grandchildren of Shmi do equally as well, with Anakin pairing with Tahiri, though nothing comes of the pairing, Jacen becoming the consort for the Dathomiri Witch-Jedi Queen of the Hapes Cluster, Jaina becoming the wife of the ruler of the Imperial Remnant, and Ben romancing a powerful Sith apprentice. While the story ends before we reach the ending of these tales, we should not be surprised that the future Skywalker heirs maintained this pattern generation after generation, building a long bloodline of mighty Force wielders. If you look at the feats of each individual on the list, there is not one that could not have sat on a Jedi Counsel or been a frighteningly powerful Sith Lord in any era of Star Wars.
Any chance you could use Ben in a Versus Battle? Also do you think Vestara should have remained a Jedi, I personally think so. Denning worst mistake in my opinion. Also do you think Luke was a Guardian, Consular, or Sentinel? Also thank you for this video! 🙏🏼
Im with you on that but i dont really like most of dennings work. Star by star is okay but the rest of his books dissapoint me compared to everyone else around him wether its allston travis or golden
@@jacobkarlin2946 I mostly agree, with the caveat that Denning can write kickass lightsaber duels. Caedus vs Luke in Inferno is probably my favorite duel in the whole franchise.
Whaaaaaattttt.....? Vestara TRIED to be a Jedi for five minutes. And that all happened in Christie Golden's book. I don't agree with blaming him for everything they don't like in the Legacy Era.
Great vid Evan. While I agree with the ranking for the most part, I did have some questions and an inconsistency I was hoping you could address. 1. While I do agree, Darth Vader is more powerful than Clone Wars/Revenge of the Sith Anakin Skywalker, it has been noted in various works (Disney Canon and EU material) that Vader himself considers Anakin to be a separate person from himself entirely. Is there a reason you didn’t consider them two separate characters and decided to group them together when ranking them? 2. Referring back to your Anakin Skywalker vs Jaina Solo match, you had Anakin and Jaina on par with each other for most of it with Jaina being declared the victor due to some advantages she had over Anakin. So, wouldn’t that warrant putting Anakin on the same tier as Jaina and by extension Vader as well? 3. Bit of an off topic question, but would you consider remaking your previous versus matches in the style you are now? It might be an opportunity to reexamine your previous matches if you’re opinions have changed on any of them.
Thank you! To answer your questions: 1. It's mainly based on the structure of the list. The idea was that since I was examining the Skywalkers as a whole, I would be taking in the entirety of their characterization and power progression, including any-and-all transformations. I agree that Anakin and Vader are different people psychologically (marginally), but since I wanted to focus on the progression of his strength, it made more sense to me to group his different personas under one banner. 2. Similarly to the Council scale, I view the categories from C Tier onwards in this video to only be divisible by EXTREMELY small margins. It is a seperation of HOW they use their powers rather than simply what they have. I think of it like how you can give out Bronze, Silver, and Gold medals to three Olympic sprinters who are only separated in their times by 0.5 seconds. Yes, they are ranked on different pedestals, but their actual levels of physical ability compared to each other are very small in the grand scheme. 3. For sure! There are past matches like Lord Hoth VS Darth Bane and others that I've definitely had my eye on redoing.
@@Three_Sword_Hokage he also foolishly claims Anakin at full potential isn’t the strongest which I’m sorry I’m straight up saying is wrong. Luke and Leia may be descendants of the Chosen one but Anakin literally is the Chosen One himself so he’s always meant to be more powerful.
@@MCLegend13thank you. Nobody says ROTs Anakin is greater than those two. But Potential wise: He is the chosen one literally born from the force and shown to possess the power of the father( which is directly implied by the father bidding him to be his replacement). Luke and Leia are his twin descendants, but naturally born. It would make sense that they would inherit a massive potential. However, they are not the chosen ones and also inherit something from their mother. So they would come close to their father, but the full potential chosen one would still be above them.
@@florianbarkowski6856Vader said Luke's Potential is possibly greater than Anakin. Full Potential Luke Skywalker has never been seen either so please stop highballing him
Speaking as one who only watched the films and animated series. I have no clue as to who all these Skywalkers are but was quite comfortable in thinking that at the very max of potential Luke would take it
Really cool ranking list Evan. Excited to finally watch it. Anakin is the strongest Skywalker when sandlusted. You underestimate his power! Also, surprised you ranked Cade above Vader. Cade vs Anakin or Vader would be a really interesting matchup. I dont think Cades force power > Vader and he is def less skilled and experienced. Though Cades pimp force, hax, lightning, and insight into Vader means he would give Vader a really bad time. Great discussion at the end comparing Luke's and Leia's potential to Anakin. As well as the arguments of the Skywalker family power dilution over the generations. I posted these matchups in Jensaarai1's latest video so might as well do so here. Cade Skywalker vs Darth Cadeus: Anti Hero Skywalker vs Anti Villain Skywalker. My money is on Cadeus but I like it thematically. Voong Infested Krayt vs Lumiya: (Post ROTJ Darth Vader Clones) Jorus C'Baoth vs Master Faye: (can't be done sadly but mad Wizard vs High Elf looks cool) Count Dooku vs Master Faye: (Saruman vs Galadriel) The Ronin (SW Visions) vs Darth Wredd (I really like some episodes of Visions and it got me thinking of a good matchup) General Grevious vs Am (Twin Sister from SW Visions): Not sure if 1 episode is enough to build a good profile for Am but I enjoyed Kill La Kill. Lord Beida/Dark Vader + Dark Helmet vs Darth Vader (joke matchup): Darth Vader parodies vs the Original Vader.
EvanNova95, i first watched your youtube channel when i saw the lightsaber colors and their meanings video 10 years ago when i was 10. Now im gonna turn 20 💀
Now that’s an interesting question. I think he would have never become quite as cold and calculating as his canon version became after Mustafar, and would channel the dark side explicitly through rage. His form would still be Djem So and he might add something of Ataru and Juyo to the mix instead of balancing his style, going for a fury-based offensive style like a Sith Marauder. Of course, his Force Power would have reached terrifying heights and he likely would have been able to perform techniques such as lightning with no trouble at all (edit: while I don’t think his powers would have been varied, they would be potent as hell) Other than that, I don’t see suitless Vader focusing on anything too ethereal or esoteric like Sith sorcery or alchemy.
Would have literally become god, Lucas says he was powerful enough on Mustafar to save Padme, and maybe a month away from actually being able to do it, he also says doing that is impossible and unnatural, the issue with the dark side is it’s corruption of the living force, so eventually everything dies an it’s suicide basically, with all the Jedi dead the force is already dying which is what’s happening in the OT why the emperor is so crippled and why nobody can fight, because the living force is the power source for that. If Anakin didn’t get bashed up and lose all his power then he could have kept life going anyway with him as the source, instead of the force, literal god and this was only a month away, contrary to Evans conclusion in this video Anakin Skywalker should definitely be number one on this list
I think Jaina was extremely overrated. She fought on par with a one-armed Jacen who had a fresh lightsaber stab to the gut, and even then Jacen wasn’t focused on killing her whereas Jaina was 100% focused on killing him. If Jacen >= Jaina with all those factors, he is far above her if both are equally healthy. I’d say that Denning’s Jacen is in the same tier as Luke, but definitely below him. Anakin Skywalker should be above Jaina and Cade based on his feats. His peak form as a combatant was during his storm of the Temple. Nick Gillard has rated that version of Vader as the best duelist in the saga (Den of Geeks 2011 interview). And even as post-Mustafar Vader, by the OT his power in the Force was greater than whatever Cade and Jaina accomplished. I think Anakin Solo and Ben Skywalker were underrated. I see them as above peak Mara Jade by way of _Star by Star_ and _Apocalypse._ I’d say Tier S: Luke, Jacen; Tier A: Anakin Skywalker; Tier B: Cade Skywalker, Kol Skywalker, Jaina Solo; Tier C: Leia, Anakin Solo, Ben Skywalker; Tier D: Nat Skywalker
I agree with putting Jacen in the S Tier given how incredibly powerful he was, he rivaled Luke. But I also do think you're underselling Jaina as Jacen was always the superior force twin, plus he was very much immersed in the Dark Side of the Force to the point where he couldn't feel any pain. So even with his physical injuries from prior duels, he could still hold his own against anyone. Also taking into account what Jaina did other than dueling her brother Jacen you still have to put her in the A Tier, she was very much on a par with Anakin Skywalker.
26:17, I’d advise you not to put words in the mouths of the writers; it’s people like you that make them not want to keep answering, or at least give very vague answers to questions. Ron did not say what you said he said. He answered yes firstly to the question confirming that Maul was brought back to kill and usurp Vader’s place as Sids’ apprentice, and then next answered yes to the question of if Maul was prepared and/or powered up to fight Vader. The author never specified that Maul was empowered. Nothing in the text that I can recall points to this. However, it IS far more likely that Maul was prepared for the fight. So please, you’ve for sure improved over the years, but you can afford to do better. Be more careful with your interpretations of things.
Epic. Video. Fax. But I think Mara is higher than Nat level via Here being able to fight against Caedus with prep time. I would at least put Mara in Kol Skywalker level. But I don’t think it’s all that crazy that Cade would be relative to Vader in power. Cade is actually op. But I’ve always said that Vader is above Anakin. Even Yoda. Vader is probably on that tier. But you said that shmi was slightly Force sensitive but everyone in Star Wars are force sensitiv. But i understand. Great video. Really enjoyed it. But I think Anakin Solo is above Ben via scaling to pre prime Jacen.
Vader is definitely not above Yoda. Vader is capped at 80% of the Emperor - which could not near-stalemate the Emperor in a Force duel. Vader is above Anakin in some ways (telekinesis, telepathy, energy deflection), and Anakin is above Vader in some ways (lightsaber combat, Force augmentation, Force visions). It all depends on how the combat scenario plays out between then.
@@DarthKraytsolosCanon500 George Lucas set the Emperor as a baseline in interviews. That Yoda could match him, but only Skywalkers could surpass him. In Lucas’ mind, the Emperor did not grow noticeably in power between ROTS and ROTJ. The Emperor has all the powers in ROTS that he has in ROTJ. What basis do you have to say he “obviously” grew.
@@theopportuneson699 Where did Lucas say this. And there’s many statements. And if we take that logic of Vader being 20 % les then Sidious. That would mean if Sidious grew by 20 % Vader and Yoda would be equal but if he grew by 30% Vader would be 10 % stronger than Yoda etc. and its not that crazy. I actually think Yoda is extremely overrated to the point where people get angry when he loses. And The Kar vastor scaling. Vastor being comparable to Yoda and Vader one year after ROTS being started stronger than him. Have you even watch STP video on Jedi and Sith ranked by power. And I can’t se the problem with Vader being stronger than Yoda. I just think that Yoda is extremely overrated and Most of the people defending him are mostly biased.
19:23 Kol Skywalker's Gandalf moment. I'm a servant of The Living Force (I'm a servant of The Secret Fire), wielder of these lighsabers in my hands (Wielder of The Flame of Arnor), none of you will pass (YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!!!)!!!!
Regarding Vader stomping Cade in that vision sequence, I’m a little confused as to why you think it doesn’t have much merit to it as far as a showcase of their skill levels go when you used Cade dueling a vision of Luke from that same run as evidence that suggests he would be able to.contend with and/or possibly outduel Mara Jade in their versus video. Did your opinion on that section of the video shift somewhat when researching this one? Thanks, and much love for all the work you’ve been doing these past ten years Dude.
Mortis feat isn't that special. Mortis is a nexus point enhancing force abilities. Also the feat of controlling the son and daughter is something ONLY Anakin and the father could do because it was Anakin's destiny. I never look at the Mortis feat as anything but Anakin turning his back on what he was suppose to do. 🤷
I think it’s worth noting on Mortis that the son and daughter were just testing Anakin. They took an awfully long time of actually hurting Ahsoka and Obi Wan. We saw the son knock both obi wan and ahsoka out in seconds later. We also saw him kill ahsoka by just touching her later, and he didn’t kill her despite having physical contact with her during most of the test. The father even said it was a test. Also the daughter was the embodiment of the light side. I have a hard time believing she would just straight up murder a light side force user. They were just trying to force anakin to demonstrate more power, and didn’t attempt to resist him at all. There were no force pushes or lightning aimed at him. Later on the Son bodied anakin without even trying, and obi wan stated Anakin needed the daughter’s help to defeat the son. The son knew Anakin had been able to tap into a higher power, and never displayed any fear of him. The potential was there for anakin to take the father’s place, but the son and daughter didn’t even attempt any opposition during that test.
Nawww I missed the premiere, but hey my power is gone for the next 3 hours so this is some welcome entertainment. That being said when is ur content not a great time XD. Keep up your amazing work, you continue to be one of is not my favourite Star wars content creator, official or fan made
I believe you should do a Video ranking all Sith Lords in Galactic History and I mean actual Sith Lords not Darth Mual for example who’s actually just an assassin/warrior. Just to note Darth Caedus is not stronger than Darth Sidious Sidious has been confirmed the strongest Sith in History. He’s definitely Darth Pleguis Darth Bane Darth Krayt Exar Kun Level Tier. I also consider Dark Empire Darth Sidious to be S Tier.
Unlikely but it be cool to Rank every Mandalore from Legends. There's enough of them out there a lengthy video can be made, while not being too long like "every sith ever". Though due to the nature of the list force prowess cannot be scaled since pretty much every Mandalore in Legends isn't force Sensitive. Instead one would have to scale them mostly on combat feats, plus equipment.
@@Noan947 Naturally ones with limited information would be near the bottom of the list similar to what happened to EvanNova's other list characters with limited info tend to be put at the bottom.
@@R0-83-RT Yeah I just think it's a bit extreme with Mandalores. There are like 10 Mandalores that we know almost nothing about, and a few more that are impossible to scale.
@@Noan947 Mandalore the Conqueror, The Unknown Mandalore, Mandalore the Destroyer, Mandalore the Hammerborn, & Mandalore the Binder, are the ones who I would consider completely unscalable. Mandalores like Mandalore the lesser & Spar have very limited feats, but at least have something. Mandalore the lesser was at least a decent Gladiator, & Spar was an Arc trooper and had Jango Fett's memories.
@@InSanic13 they can because leia and luke had midichlorians. so what you're telling me they can create life and be inside new bodies but have no impact on the impregnated host? that's not realistic.
@@tomcross3000it's explained in the book that from his experiments he knew that the midiclorians from one person passing on to another quickly degrade, this is why one cannot become force sensitive via blood transfusion with a force user. But I'm assuming that compatibility from familial relationships will affect this in some way, I don't remember if plageus explicitly mentioned anything about this since its been afew years since I read the book. On a side note I always assumed the force sensitivity was random as a trait when passing down to children, with a family of 1 jedi and 1 non force sensitive having a roughly equal chance of getting it or not depending on the sensitivity of the parents, their species and pure luck
@@momtchilboshniakov290 palpatine cloned people from force users, dna containing midichlorians can be as transferrable and replicated as the herpes virus. influencing midichlorians to create life is not the same as natural means of conception, so there is nothing to say that a non force sensitive cannot gain some powers from a force sensitive lover and when you're carrying a force sensitive fetus, instead of randomly being used as a random vessel in a science experiment to carry a concentrated clump of cells like they were drugs in one of your personal cavities through an airport.
Maaan I would've loved Leia of the st being a Jedi master, especially if she led the order after Luke's departure. They could've kept Luke as missing and Han and her being split due to her being in control and not as broken up by Ben while Han got hit hard by it, would've been an interesting dynamic and actually shown growth in her and Han while making their split up make more sense. Maybe Leia was a more classical Jedi believing that too much emotion could be bad and thus tried to handle it without acting brashly while Han felt isolated and left as a result
This could've also resulted in someone actually training Rey instead of her just wrecking Kylo with 0 training and using the force when she 100% shouldn't be able to
0:38 Wrong. It started in 1976, when the novelization for (What we now call) A New Hope came out 6 months before The Movie itself did in May, 1977. Just as "In a hole in the ground, there lived a Hobbit" in "The Hobbit" was the first line of Tolkien's works; "Another galaxy, another time" is the first line of all Star Wars media, NOT "A Long Time Ago, In A Galaxy Far, Far Away". While most people in that time would've seen the movie, before reading its then 6 month old novelization, what is popularly considered the start of Star Wars; that isn't the same as the technical start of Star Wars in its first piece of media outside of George Lucas' mind/imagination, as well as the earliest scripts for the movie (If they somehow came out before even the novelization did). I just started watching the video, btw. Hope it's really good. Just wanted to make a little clarification right-off-the-bat (38 seconds into it, actually).
for your star wars Q&A 1.Have you played starwars squadrons story mode. If so are U cureus how Grace Sienar ended up with the rebels/new republic? 2.Do you think there should a mini series ,about Iden Versio at the imperil academy from her first day to the day she got assigened to the first death star? 3. Who do you think would win and why Qinlen Vos or Depa Billaba
What are your thoughts on Luuke Skywalker Luke’s clone from the Thrawn Triology. I think at worst, the C tier you’ve layed out, and at best B tier. He did give a pre-Dark Empire Luke a good fight, that’s why I say B at best. Cause as we all know by now from Dark Empire. A Phresh with a ph, clone body Palps is the most powerful incarnation of himself. And given how those events are mere weeks if not months later from the events of the last book in the Thrawn tril, that means Luuke gave pretty much that version of Luke, a Luke capable of defeating that level of Sidious, one hell of a fight 🤺 C for low balling simply because of the hard truth that this Clone doesn’t really have feats outside of The Last Command.
Pretty sure that statement about Caedus being "the most powerfull of the Sith Lords" would have reffered to that particular point in time, thus including Lumiya, One Sith and Lost tribe. Come on, he MIGHT be stronger than Darth Vader (which hasn't been truly confirmed by any objective source other than a blurb, the kind of which has been stated by Leyland Chee to be invalid), but he is NOT on Palpatine's level, that is a BIG exagerration. You said yourself in one of your recent q&a's that Caedus posessed "slightly" more power than his grandfather, thus if Vader was 80% of Sidious, Caedus would be 82-85% at the very best. So if your mind has changed on the matter, I'd suggest you change it back 😂. But this is pretty much the only thing I strongly disagree with in your video. I'd put Anakin in the A tier leaving only Cade in B but it's just me. Nice job 💪💪.
The Kyp Durron statement is pretty weird in general, since during the NJO he also believed himself to have more raw power than Luke, so even when just referring to potential he would be putting Leia over Luke, which is not really founded anywhere.
Great list. Personally i think Droo Rawk should be higher than Beru and Owen, she seems to be far more accostumed to combat (living in hiding and with casual shootouts with criminals like Black Sun) and has had some experience with Kiffar customs, which may indicate a superior array of self-defense tactics than anything a moisture farmer may gain with experience alone, but i would definetly have Padme and Han above her. I also think Mara is more comparable to Jaina or Anakin rather than Nat.
