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2:26 Number 9
5:56 Number 8
8:36 Number 7
10:28 Number 6
12:14 Number 5
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18:18 Number 2
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@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
What have I done?
@Crackmiser
@Crackmiser Год назад
You’ve pulled the pin on a grenade, and you’ve lost the pin.
@mcsquigg37
@mcsquigg37 Год назад
@KeyIssues do you believe in the principle that Jedi generally grow in power with each era? We know this is true for Sith via rule of 2, but I have always viewed it as an unwritten rule that each generation surpasses the past, with outliers ofc
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
@@mcsquigg37 Ummmmm I don't think so since Porter still clears most of the highest tier Jedi of generations after his. I think it really just comes down to who joins the Jedi with the highest potential and who makes the most of that potential. I would say as a whole maybe? Until they started receding from the galaxy after The High Republic. Which is why they were weaker overall after the end of The High Republic era.
@mcsquigg37
@mcsquigg37 Год назад
@@KeyIssues would you apply this to Sith as well (force users as a whole)? Because then wouldn’t that possibly contradict the rule of 2 from the standpoint of the sith? I’m just curious
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
@@mcsquigg37 the rule of two is weird I’m still not exactly sure how it works but each generation would be stronger as the apprentice always has to surpass the master. It’s not that way for the Jedi. Also easier to have two Uber powerful Sith than Jedi always at a similar level simply due to the number of Jedi who exist imo. There are exceptions like Mace Windu and Anakin, but every other Jedi who have human life spans are no where near Sidious… but again it comes down to potential. The new Sith master will ALWAYS look for the apprentice with the highest possible potential. If a more powerful prospect shows up, they have no problem killing and replacing their current apprentice. Jedi on the whole might have 5 Jedi with similar potential to the current two Sith. For example, Maul’s potential was more than his mother who rivaled Sidious and Windu. Dooku had the most potential of his generation. Anakin had the most potential ever.
@IvanMoncure
@IvanMoncure Год назад
I think Anakin, Luke, and Ben all have roughly equal potential, but Luke was the one who spent the longest as a light side user to refine and develop said potential.
@kingchurros9021
@kingchurros9021 Год назад
yeah i think you said it best.
@mikehunt6777
@mikehunt6777 Год назад
Yeah although it seems like a Anakin had a bit more potential before his fight with Kenobi on Mustafar.
@astar2641
@astar2641 11 месяцев назад
I think Anakin clearly has the biggest potential given what happened in mortis. I dont either Luke or Ben are able to control the representation of light and darkness.
@bhanupriyainampudi6852
@bhanupriyainampudi6852 11 месяцев назад
yea but grand master luke never reached his full potential he was the closet to unlocking his full potential as force users can increase their lifespan and replinish their stamina
@bong_thong
@bong_thong 10 месяцев назад
@@mikehunt6777Mustard fart really did him in
@crammothy
@crammothy Год назад
Idk if Ahsoka, Cere, Rey and Ben are really stronger than people like Windu. Rey and Ben have the potential and the raw power, but I don’t think they have the skill, technique, and control. I think that all of the 4 I mentioned are in the top 10, but they are higher than I would put them.
@idktbh8950
@idktbh8950 Месяц назад
the problem is that they have the feats and statements that put them above mace. Mostly the scaling they ALL have to Vader while Windu doesnt even scale to vader at all😭
@idktbh8950
@idktbh8950 Месяц назад
at most you could say Cere MIGHT not scale as much but she still did decent against vader while windu wouldn’t
@illapuproductions
@illapuproductions 4 дня назад
@@idktbh8950 then you mustve have not watched the clone wars series etc to say that.
@idktbh8950
@idktbh8950 4 дня назад
@@illapuproductions You think Windu would put up a fight against vader when him against Anakin (who is much weaker than Vader) is a hottly debated topic?
@theboshawguy7763
@theboshawguy7763 9 месяцев назад
I think a lot of Star Wars fans need to realize is just because you don’t like a character does not mean they’re not strong i love Plo and and Rahm Kota but i know that they would be a smudge on the floor if they were to face anyone in this list even the ones i dislike
@michaelmcgurk4163
@michaelmcgurk4163 14 дней назад
It’s a more than fair point I don’t like the sequels but boy there are so many people who just hate it with an odd passion.
@EXDEEseven
@EXDEEseven Год назад
Good vid mate, agree with most of them. Love your content, especially the Star Wars stuff. Keep it up!
@good_dominic4995
@good_dominic4995 Год назад
Really good list, really good scaling. Really liking the editing too.
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
Thank you!
@Bullsblackhawks93
@Bullsblackhawks93 10 месяцев назад
@@KeyIssues so luke is the number one force user?? Or just Jedi or against the number one sith who wins
@anime_world6684
@anime_world6684 9 месяцев назад
This was actually very helpful I get to see how strong anakin and Luke are in Disney canon and with Seth the programmer I get to see how strong anakin and Luke are in legends
@trehubb6144
@trehubb6144 Год назад
Always gonna be excited to see how folks rate Jedi like Anakin or Mace. Good list
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
Thanks!
@8thgod769
@8thgod769 Год назад
@KeyIssues hey I need u guys to do a video on web weaver he was just confirmed for season 4 the boys please do it now PLEASE I WANNA KNOW WHO HE IS PLEASE
@japple1080
@japple1080 Год назад
You gotta do a kylo ren video that would be epic
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
I will
@sebastianzambrano1714
@sebastianzambrano1714 23 дня назад
@@KeyIssues did you?
@lakithchandra8901
@lakithchandra8901 Год назад
Awesome video man
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
Thanks!!!
@williamsummerson1204
@williamsummerson1204 9 месяцев назад
I appreciate you giving luke the love and respect that he rightfully deserves, Imo he is the Goat.
@Johnadams20760
@Johnadams20760 Год назад
the way Luke works as a grandmaster, i can hear luke doing that superman world is made of cardboard speech
@mcsquigg37
@mcsquigg37 Год назад
Cere is the biggest outlier on the list imo. I wish we had more on Porter and even Ahsoka before throwing them in top 5, but what can ya do
@danieleckstein7118
@danieleckstein7118 11 месяцев назад
Amazing video. The fact that you throw your sources straight there and back up your claims is fantastic. Well done 😁🤙
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues 11 месяцев назад
thank you!
@crammothy
@crammothy Год назад
When the old republic gets explored in canon this list is going to change I am sure
@Dr.Kenobi264
@Dr.Kenobi264 Год назад
This was a great top 10 video. I appreciated your efforts to include the High Republic and back up all your claims with actual source material. There were definitely some spicy takes on this list, but overall, I agree with most of it. My biggest dissagrements are with your placement of Cere and Ahsoka. Windu and Yoda both dueled Palpatine and came out on top, neither Cere nor Ashoka accomplished that feat. Ashoka barely held off the Emperor in the World between Worlds, and if Filoni was saying that Ashoka was more powerful than Yoda during Rebels, that was probably only due to Yoda's extreme age. Unless the Ashoka show says otherwise peak Yoda is clearly more powerful than Ashoka. We never got to see Mace Windu fight Vader, but there is no reason he wouldn't have done just as well, if not better, than Cere. My take on the Cere vs Vader duel is that Vader spent most of the duel not fully trying, but then when he stopped playing with Cere, she never stood a chance. I don't think she actually came that close to beating him. Also, if you are going to put her so high on the list for "almost" killing Vader then you have to include Kirak Infil'a who absolutely wrecked Vader's face. Sure Vader wasn't as strong at the time (and didn't even have a lightsaber,) but the comics showed him to be completely outclassed by Master Infil'a. Vader was only able to kill him by making Infil'a choose between trying to save innocents or defend himself. Aside from the duel with Vader, Cere really doesn't have other feats that put her on par with the others on the list. I personally don't think she would make my list for (The 10 Most Powerful Jedi of All Time), but otherwise, I think there is a good argument for everyone else to be on the list (even if I might re-arrange it) and you definitely got the #1 spot right (which is the most important one anyway) so good job. This might be a fun video to update in the future as more canon content is released. I will watch it.
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
1. That Vader is stronger than the Sidious that Yoda and Mace fought. Sidious and Vader both become way more powerful than the Clone War era Jedi. 2. Vader hadn't surpassed Anakin when he fought Kirak. Vader was also not used to his suit yet. Thanks for watching and your detailed comment!
@jl88570
@jl88570 Год назад
I don't have mind for Ahsoka, but cere could be replaced with Obi-wan.
@wadewilson8011
@wadewilson8011 10 месяцев назад
​@@KeyIssuesyou're COMPLETELY wrong. I don't see how you saw canon material from the movies and TV shows and got this list COMPLETELY WRONG. Ashoka more powerful than Mace?? That alone is absurd. George Lucas himself would ask you wtf are you thinking??
@aaronrodriguez9376
@aaronrodriguez9376 8 месяцев назад
To wadewilson8011: you clearly have no idea how power scaling works. So don't say key issues is wrong when he knows a lot about power scaling and you don't. You're also being very rude if you don't like the list then leave ok jerk weed.
@Lilpiktdude
@Lilpiktdude 5 месяцев назад
@@wadewilson8011I’d say Ahsoka’s placement is pretty accurate
@ryanRosenblatt
@ryanRosenblatt Год назад
Nice list I agree with basically every spot on the list and I just want to say thank you for finally actually acknowledging Luke’s strength as the equal in everything to Anakin in potential as nobody ever even mentions that when talking about Luke and just say he’s weak because Vader was holding back and conflicted but to be fair look didn’t want to kill his father in that duel but anyways people are like he’s weak because he’s weaker than he is in Legends.
@Ivbo
@Ivbo Год назад
Ben Solo finally getting the respect he deserves…man’s been disrespected for years now, even though he’s got some of the most rock solid scaling in all of canon.
@liampatterson2946
@liampatterson2946 Год назад
You have seen the movies right
@Ivbo
@Ivbo Год назад
@@liampatterson2946 You have read the statements that literally compare him to Anakin/Vader right…you have read the comics right…you definitely aren’t biased af and just ignorant to the canon…right?
@curiouspanda873
@curiouspanda873 Год назад
@@liampatterson2946 movie choreography doesnt equate to skill or power.
@all_out_tripp7220
@all_out_tripp7220 11 месяцев назад
@@liampatterson2946Ben solo/ Kylo Ren is honestly the one good thing about the sequel trilogy
@starwarsjedi2296
@starwarsjedi2296 9 месяцев назад
@@liampatterson2946 You have watched the video right You have read the comics and seen the statements right? Or are you just being biased and ignoring the canon just because you don't like the Sequels or his character?
@Mikerille
@Mikerille Год назад
Loved the video, to be honest I would’ve put kirak in front of mace, but overall I loved the video, also was surprised to not see obi wan here tbh, as he was an equal to new hope vader
@thevision645
@thevision645 Год назад
Id have said theres a possiblilty for Kenobi to be in here. His feats are so impressive when it comes to duelling that he could have squeezed on there. Including guiding the most powerful jedi ever in Luke too.
@DrUmar-gu4kp
@DrUmar-gu4kp 11 месяцев назад
His best feats are taking down nerfed anakin, maul, and a nerfed grevious. He doesn’t compare to a single character on this list.
@Holychicken232
@Holychicken232 10 месяцев назад
@@DrUmar-gu4kpand almost every time maul beats him anyways if he wasn’t so cocky he would have beaten obi wan and killed him but that wasn’t satisfying for him
@thevision645
@thevision645 10 месяцев назад
@@Holychicken232 you say that but thats what makes Obi wan so strong. His ability to read a duel and how to counter for a win. Hence Maul hasn't beat him.
@thevision645
@thevision645 10 месяцев назад
@@DrUmar-gu4kp Nerfed Anakin? He's beaten Anakin twice. Maul he kills when he's an old man. And Grevious has killed many Jedi so I wouldn't call him nerfed either especially when obi wan lost his lightsaber during the fight vs grievous. Don't discredit these feats because he's still beaten them.
@Holychicken232
@Holychicken232 10 месяцев назад
@@thevision645 he only read his duels against anakin since they fought practically every day in spars surre it isn’t the same thing but obi wan can easily counter most of anakins basic attacks since he would learn how to in sparring contests if your talking about Ben kenobi sure I think you can make an argument for him but not during or after he beats a heavily conflicted anakin who’s he fought before and knows what to do
@totallynotseihat9753
@totallynotseihat9753 8 дней назад
putting ashoka above yoda is absolutely controversial lol
@starwarsjedi2296
@starwarsjedi2296 9 месяцев назад
This video was great, loved the editing and I loved how you used canon sources such as comics, novels and statements to help back up your claims, also I'm so happy to finally see some Ben, Cere, Ahsoka and Rey get the representation and respect they deserve. So often in the fandom those characters (Ben and Rey especially) are downplayed just because, when in reality they're extremely powerful. Also love the fact you included High Republic stuff, as a big fan of the High Republic its nice to see it brought up in a video. You just earnt a subscriber
@TheGameKnight
@TheGameKnight Год назад
What music is used in the Anakin section of the video?
@AJ-mv3xu
@AJ-mv3xu 6 месяцев назад
I think I only disagree with where Mace and Yoda are on the list. Cere Junda might have almost defeated Vader, it doesn't mean that Mace couldn't have beat him. Mace defeated Palpatine who was even at that time much stronger than Vader. I do like that you pointed out that Mace could use the dark side of the force against Palpatine so it doesn't necessarily mean that he could beat someone like Yoda who doesn't use the dark side. Since Mace did beat Palpatine, pretty much on his own since the others died almost immediately, I think he should be above Rey and Ben since they both needed to be there to beat Palpatine, who also might not have been at his peak power at that point with being previously thrown into a death star beam. Yoda should be above Mace since he, in general, is just a stronger Jedi, as stated in a number of texts. But overall I agree with the rest of your points even if they initially surprised me. Loved the logic on a lot of them.
@aaronrodriguez9376
@aaronrodriguez9376 8 месяцев назад
I love your videos key issues you got me into power scaling. Also please don't pay attention to the people who are being rude they are overestimating and underestimating feats. They also don't seem to understand power scaling at all.
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues 8 месяцев назад
thanks 🐐
@isaaccuevas1717
@isaaccuevas1717 Год назад
I always wondered how strong was Luke was in the original trilogy compared to other Jedi and sith,like how would he do against maul in the prequels,could he beat dooku or young obi wan,could Luke in ROTJ beat ROTS anakin
@mcsquigg37
@mcsquigg37 Год назад
Luke stomps all of those guys
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
Yeah, he slams every Jedi and Sith during the Clone Wars
@isaaccuevas1717
@isaaccuevas1717 Год назад
@@KeyIssues really? Even people like yoda and mace
@Night-gw3oe
@Night-gw3oe Год назад
Luke would win, yes.
@pkim0356
@pkim0356 Год назад
Bro held his own against peak Vader, and beat him (when emotionally conflicted). He could beat Maul and Dooku without even using a lightsaber lmao
@alecjackman2655
@alecjackman2655 Год назад
In relation to Cere’s fight with Vader may I ask what are your thoughts about people who bring up how if Vader grabs Cere he just tosses her aside instead of stabbing her? Do you take in game taunts like this as canon or only a game mechanic and nothing more?
@thatfunkymonkey7667
@thatfunkymonkey7667 Год назад
Very well made video I respect the amount of evidence you acquired to determine who should be on the list just not sure I agree with the order of people. Also I feel like Ahsoka should be lower and Obi Wan should at least be on the list.
@virtualrealityfitness283
@virtualrealityfitness283 11 месяцев назад
Cade Skywalker and Darth Krayt would stomp this whole list!
@jamariojackson4289
@jamariojackson4289 11 месяцев назад
Can you please do this for the darkside ? I would love to see your placements, while it’s pretty obvious who the top 2 would be I still think it’s worth a video.
@aaronrodriguez9376
@aaronrodriguez9376 7 месяцев назад
Who are the top 2 besides palpatine.
@jamariojackson4289
@jamariojackson4289 7 месяцев назад
@@aaronrodriguez9376 IMO the Son would be first as he’s literally the God of the Darkside, probably Palpatine, then Vader. Palpatine is strong but there’s no way he’s above a primordial being (at least in canon).
@hellothere-bx8cf
@hellothere-bx8cf 7 месяцев назад
​@@jamariojackson4289in Canon, the list goes like this: 1. The Son 2. Palpatine 3. Count Dooku 4. Exim Panshard 5. Darth vader 6. Darth Maul 7. Darth Bane 8. Lord Momin
@jamariojackson4289
@jamariojackson4289 7 месяцев назад
@@hellothere-bx8cf I agreed until you put Dooku at 3. No way I see Dooku beating Bane or Vader, and Dooku needed helped to take down Maul and Talzin from Grievous and Sidious, but lost to Maul in a 2v1 with Grievous earlier in the same comic (a canon comic called the ‘Son of Dathomir’) so there’s no way I’m buying Dooku over Maul when he couldn’t even beat him tag teamed with GG, let alone him being above Bane and Vader. Where is this canon list ? I’d love to see it.
@hellothere-bx8cf
@hellothere-bx8cf 7 месяцев назад
@@jamariojackson4289 then I guess u could switch it with darth vader instead?
@Mr.DelicateTouch
@Mr.DelicateTouch Год назад
You’ve just started world war 3 with those people you placed at 5, 4, and 3. Great video tho and I agree with pretty much this entire list.
@lunarnightcore8416
@lunarnightcore8416 11 месяцев назад
this is gonna come out of know where but can i ask a math related question to scale something? (not good at math)
@cubearts1
@cubearts1 11 месяцев назад
Disagree with some of the placements , but im happy to see HR rep as well as the dyad duo on this (people genuinely believing they get folded by season 1 Ahsoka lol)
@closegripbenchpress489
@closegripbenchpress489 Год назад
22:23 where is that from
@yashaoftheflames8475
@yashaoftheflames8475 Год назад
13:56 I don't like Rey or Kylo as characters but I gotta admit they're strong
@jaieregilmore971
@jaieregilmore971 Год назад
Not really they only strong because they only know force users in that era pretty sure Anakin and Obi wan can take them down hell any past Jedi can them down.
@curiouspanda873
@curiouspanda873 Год назад
@@jaieregilmore971 guess u didnt watch the video. Stop spouting bullshit and show us feats and statements that put obi or any prequel titan over ben solo
@galacticgamingguy5906
@galacticgamingguy5906 Год назад
When you consider the Dyad and the Skywalker Blood it would at least be a fight.
@jaieregilmore971
@jaieregilmore971 Год назад
@@galacticgamingguy5906 We both know Dyad last minute plot device and wasn’t stated Snoke created that bond in first place and later recton as for skywalker blood at least in Disney canon fully realized it potential is Luke but the rest is wasted.
@BasedKuuTooGourmet
@BasedKuuTooGourmet 11 месяцев назад
@@jaieregilmore971Anakin, Mace and Yoda are getting smoked by TFA Kylo. And TFA Oneness Rey. It’s not a fair fight
@dimond360_
@dimond360_ Год назад
A solid list all around mate. The one thing I would have changed wouldn’t be to have removed a character but to have added one. I personally think Loden Greatstorm from the High Republic should have been on this list either at number 10 himself or tied with Avar Kriss for the numerical ranking since they’re so close in power. My main argument for him is the comparison between Loden and Bell’s feat of holding back Lourna Dee’s starship during The Rising Storm novel and Avar’s similar feat in the comics against the same starship. Loden manages to nearly pulls back Dee’s ship despite the fact that he had been being tortured for over a year by the Nihil until the Leveler interfered and killed him while Avar at a normal level of power had failed to replicate the feat. Loden did have his apprentice Bell’s assistance during his showing but I’m not sure how much of an assist that was considering that Bell’s power was dwarfed by his masters. Either way it was a good list and I’m glad to see Jedi of the High Republic at all on these kinds of lists as I don’t see the era get any sort of power scaling. My comment isn’t one of criticism but rather just another idea to add to the list.
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
Man…. I miss Loden
@humbelduff2916
@humbelduff2916 10 месяцев назад
@@KeyIssues RIP Loden😭
@nicolasribeiro9067
@nicolasribeiro9067 Год назад
Do you think that if luke had his full potential, he would be more powerful than anakin at his full potential? Or would it be on the same level.
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
I like to think they’d be the same but idk for sure
@curiouspanda873
@curiouspanda873 Год назад
All skywalker have the same potential in canon. Stop wanking this idea about anakin full potential. He doesnt exist lmao and never will and cant be used in scaling
@Ballism.
@Ballism. 9 месяцев назад
They would be equal
@adamstadick2044
@adamstadick2044 9 месяцев назад
I feel like Windu and yoda should be 6 and 5 respectively. While Cere being a match for Vader is impressive Windu was able to actually beat Sidious. And given that Yoda scales higher than Windu due to not being in his prime during clone wars he also likely would’ve been able to beat Sidious in his prime. Ashoka is strong but I don’t see her ever being able to beat Sidious. At the very least I feel like Yoda should rank higher than Ashoka if we’re going by Yoda’s prime.
@user-lp8im7ow8s
@user-lp8im7ow8s 4 месяца назад
Vader is stronger than Yoda in a New Hope and by the time Ashoka fought him , Vader was amped, so he would at least scale to Prime Yoda
@polartang250
@polartang250 Год назад
I don't know about this...
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
Okay
@Giacomo_112
@Giacomo_112 Год назад
I forgot rey existed
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
You should probably get your brain checked out. Seems like a pretty big thing to forget considering she is the star of 3 of the biggest Star Wars movies ever made.
@sincorazon9920
@sincorazon9920 Год назад
I didn’t forget but I wish I did😂
@Mr.DelicateTouch
@Mr.DelicateTouch Год назад
Obligatory Rey hate comment even though it’s been years since her trilogy ended lol.
@exorciste6923
@exorciste6923 5 месяцев назад
​@@KeyIssueswow the sequels are the worst movie ever should've never existed at this point lets say r2d2 beat sidious lmao
@daelinmiller4437
@daelinmiller4437 11 месяцев назад
I think vader was suppressed because I think he's still in pain from fighting Obi-Wan because the kenobi series happens in the same year as jedi survivor
@Lilpiktdude
@Lilpiktdude 5 месяцев назад
This list is impressive
@davidbarkovich9764
@davidbarkovich9764 Год назад
I’m not sure I agree with how low you put Anakin and Mace and Yoda, but I appreciate your effort.
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
Considering Vader >>> Anakin and Anakin rivaled Yoda and Mace, anyone relative to Vader is above them. Simple stuff
@melb_cc
@melb_cc 3 месяца назад
@@KeyIssues 😭😭😭😭😭😭
@batataplays4837
@batataplays4837 8 месяцев назад
Do we know for sure if Vader,without legends stuff, in between Episodes 3 and 4 is stronger than Anakin in RoS? Because that could really change a lot of the positions in this list
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues 8 месяцев назад
Yes
@PoppySeed-jd6pi
@PoppySeed-jd6pi 5 месяцев назад
​@@KeyIssues U do know Mace windu is stronger than most u listed
@piotreksz.2082
@piotreksz.2082 Год назад
Didn't Ashoka leave the jedi order and bacame a grey jedi in Rebels? I think she even said that she is no jedi anymore.
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
She’s called a Jedi in the trailer for her show so 😅 did t wanna leave her off due a technicality
@piotreksz.2082
@piotreksz.2082 Год назад
​@@KeyIssuesAlright, just the arguments in the video were from Rebels... ok, we can assume she came back to being a jedi in her show and she kept that power level 👌
@DrVarner
@DrVarner 5 месяцев назад
Do a Legends list. I’d love to see the twins and Anakin solo assessed by you.
@bobafatt2137
@bobafatt2137 10 месяцев назад
1:34 where is this screenshot from?
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues 9 месяцев назад
timelines
@bobafatt2137
@bobafatt2137 9 месяцев назад
Thank you
@gerardocovarrubias3058
@gerardocovarrubias3058 Год назад
hey do you think if anakin skywalker reach his full potential he could have been on super and thor level
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
Comics Thor or MCU Thor?
@gerardocovarrubias3058
@gerardocovarrubias3058 Год назад
@@KeyIssues mcu canon obviously
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
@@gerardocovarrubias3058 Anakin slams MCU Thor
@gerardocovarrubias3058
@gerardocovarrubias3058 Год назад
@@KeyIssues also dceu superman meaing anakin full potential
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
@@gerardocovarrubias3058 Yeah, he beats DCEU Superman too.
@TheQuincyEdwards
@TheQuincyEdwards Год назад
Was Porter a Devaronian?
@CharlesFairchild-yo9eo
@CharlesFairchild-yo9eo 17 дней назад
There are multiple canon statements saying that Palpatine threw his fight with Windu, so I don't think it's as black and white as you made it out to be.
@Jansen33
@Jansen33 10 месяцев назад
Obi wan should easily be #1. He accomplished several things which greatly contributed to the good guys winning. He beat Vader twice. On Mustafar in 3 & recently in “Kenobi” He gave Luke reason and purpose after letting Vader strike him down the third time they went at it. *obi-wan purposefully looks at him before it happens knowing how powerful this moment will be ***(Obi-wans body literally disappears into the force) He killed Maul Twice. He killed General Grievous. He protected Luke on Tatooine. He protected Leia in “Kenobi” He brought Luke to Yoda. The list goes on and on….
@evilalterego
@evilalterego Год назад
While I disagree with Rey and Ben on here, I'm with you on everyone else, though I probably would have ranked them a bit differently.
@yashaoftheflames8475
@yashaoftheflames8475 Год назад
7:47 in other words Mace is just HIM
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
Yes!
@melb_cc
@melb_cc 3 месяца назад
Ahsoka above Yoda are you shitting me lmao
@SiwyDiego
@SiwyDiego 11 месяцев назад
Mace and yoda are definitly above cere and ahsoka. Especially Yoda with his 900 year old knowledge. Also Ahsoka should be lower than cere. And don't even get me started on rey palpatine here. Her being higher than any previous jedi is a joke. She should be the one opening that list, not Avar. Oh, and ahsoka for sure hasn't surpassed vader. He didn;t toy with her, that's for sure, and it can be seen in their pretty intense duel that vader constantly has the upper hand over his former student. Ahsoka is able to hit him only because he was concentrating on retrieving the sith holocron from ezra and kanan. And she wasn't able to "briefly battle darth sidious", she was literally fighting for her life while sidious laughed at her. Oh, and reverting back to cere for a bit. Those falling, burning bookcases could and have damaged vader. If you'll play that scene one more time you can hear that vader's respirator sound has changed. The same respirator sound could be heard in ep. 6 after vader was suverely damaged by emperor's lightning.
@GG-gg1yv
@GG-gg1yv 10 месяцев назад
When the Kylo vid coming?
@arturtourinho6449
@arturtourinho6449 Год назад
Could you do a vídeo about Kanan? He is my favourite Jedi (after Luke) and i think he is underrated, but inconssistent.
@hellothere-bx8cf
@hellothere-bx8cf 7 месяцев назад
Although he's one of my favourites, he's not that powerful Compared to these, I'd say he's top 25 (power wise)
@arturtourinho6449
@arturtourinho6449 Год назад
Ahsokas placement (above Yoda) i do not agree, but great vídeo. Realy well made. And people do not understand Reys power. She is not a good character, but she is a Palpatine and, because of it and the dyad, she is strong.
@exorciste6923
@exorciste6923 5 месяцев назад
Doesn't matter i like more a great story with less good character than good character with à trash story
@Maddog-xc2zv
@Maddog-xc2zv 2 месяца назад
Ahsoka even loses twice to Baylan Skoll, a master who seemingly fled the Temple when ani/vader stormed it after order 66. She's a bit over rated, although I do like her character - mostly in the clone wars and much less in the Mandalorian and Ahsoka series, as unfortunately she's very poorly written and becomes a shallow character that she never was during the clone wars animations where she was even just a kid (15-17 yo). Also she's not a Jedi, as she left the order as Padowan never to return, but that's just my pov.
@mentalist7772
@mentalist7772 2 месяца назад
What about Satele Shawn? From what i remeber it was stated that she was the only Jedi theat neared Grandmaster Luke Skywalker in terms of power.
@Fictionfan364
@Fictionfan364 11 месяцев назад
Not connected to the video sorry, but in a few videos I’ve seen of yours you keep saying the Ultron drones in age of ultron are made of grade 5 titanium what’s your source on that?
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues 11 месяцев назад
guidebook
@Fictionfan364
@Fictionfan364 11 месяцев назад
@@KeyIssues oh which one if you don’t mind me asking?
@jamesengland5694
@jamesengland5694 9 месяцев назад
I like the list a lot, but I would have included Plo Koon to be honest
@gerardocovarrubias3058
@gerardocovarrubias3058 Год назад
hey do you think if the was no high ground or magma anakin would have killed kenobi easily yes or no
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 Год назад
Iirc Anakin was dealing with conflict on top of all that stuff
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
Easily? No.
@gerardocovarrubias3058
@gerardocovarrubias3058 Год назад
@@KeyIssues but he took high ground because he was old and tired
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
@@gerardocovarrubias3058 Not sure what you mean by this. You asked if Anakin would win easily, I said no. He probably would win, though.
@gerardocovarrubias3058
@gerardocovarrubias3058 Год назад
@@KeyIssues im saying obi wan took high ground because he knew he would not beat anakin as he was skywalker was young kenobi was old thats what im saying
@contigo8067
@contigo8067 Год назад
What about obi wan in oneness state with the force?
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
No temporary amps on the list or Rey and Anakin would be 1 and 2
@contigo8067
@contigo8067 Год назад
@@KeyIssues oh ok thanks, out of curiosity where would obi wan rank then
@fayd-yt4526
@fayd-yt4526 Месяц назад
i believe you are using “relative”incorrectly. things have to be relative in some specific regard, not just relative to each other without context or frame of reference.
@user-bx6iy2ut9y
@user-bx6iy2ut9y Месяц назад
I want to know more about Star Wars I watched ALL the movies I haven’t watched clone wars or rebels yet. So do I read the novels or comics?
@Fulcrum-27
@Fulcrum-27 5 месяцев назад
Yoda, Windu and Anakin after Rey and no Obi-Wan? did we fking watched the same saga?
@BATMAN-pp6wz
@BATMAN-pp6wz 4 месяца назад
Obi wan has only defeated Anakin and Vader when he was conflicted
@Fulcrum-27
@Fulcrum-27 3 месяца назад
@@BATMAN-pp6wz bruh he's a Jedi.
@BATMAN-pp6wz
@BATMAN-pp6wz 3 месяца назад
@@Fulcrum-27 and so is every fodder in the jedi order
@Maddog-xc2zv
@Maddog-xc2zv 2 месяца назад
@@Fulcrum-27 Kenobi was resilient and never gave up on perfecting himself, but forcewise he was much weaker than any jedi mentioned here and others not mentioned. He's greatest achievement, besides the fight with a conflicted and arrogant Anakin, was defeating Grievous, a machine in most accounts that almost any old republic jedi would have defeated easily or with just a little effort. And it's known he only defeated Grievous because he delivered himself completely to the force and this was, in some ways, his prize bone. I do love Kenobi, btw. Unfortunately he's timeline is during the clone wars and all Jedi dogma and blindness. He would be a much better jedi in the High Republic without his self imposed constrains due to his blind loyalty to an outdated jedi order that crumbled like a sand castle to the power of two sith. Cheers.
@MasterOfTheElements
@MasterOfTheElements Год назад
A sith could toss an island? that seems kinda OP.
@chrisnichols9014
@chrisnichols9014 11 месяцев назад
Luke can create blackholes. The Force really no limits to what it can actually do.
@MasterOfTheElements
@MasterOfTheElements 11 месяцев назад
@@chrisnichols9014 is that canon or from Legends? Cause everyone is OP there.
@Maddog-xc2zv
@Maddog-xc2zv 2 месяца назад
@@MasterOfTheElements Luke "defeated" Ben with just an illusion (projecting himself trough the galaxy, something which would kill most jedi, even masters, right on spot if they tried to do the trick). If that is not a show of power I guess I need to be reeducated... (Yeah, I hate the sequels but for now it's what we've got - outside this kind of "exercises" I would literally ignore all of those 3 episodes, Disney canon is a crap maybe except for Jedi Fallen order and Survivor, but those are video games and a bit out of Disney know how so they have to play with what they got mainly when such mean a lot of money to Disney pockets; I would also like to mention KOTOR, but Disney killed it as canon - another stupid mistake of small minds).
@BasedKuuTooGourmet
@BasedKuuTooGourmet 3 месяца назад
I still agree with this list but I feel like resolve Obi-wan from ROTS/OWK is in this list.
@jaieregilmore971
@jaieregilmore971 Год назад
Is it weird that movie Kylo and comic Kylo are kinda inconsistent through power he has potential but I think the writers hampered him power in the movies.
@curiouspanda873
@curiouspanda873 Год назад
they are not inconsistent lmao. movie choreography doesn equate to skill or power kind of a weird and stupid take. just look at marvel. thor is an expert fighter in comics but he fights like a dumb slow brute in live action
@kirakinfila3387
@kirakinfila3387 3 месяца назад
No Obi wan? But he had Vader defeated?
@closegripbenchpress489
@closegripbenchpress489 Год назад
where can i download the secrets of the sith
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
I’m pretty sure it’s a physical only book
@closegripbenchpress489
@closegripbenchpress489 Год назад
@@KeyIssues Only a Sith deals in absolutes
@pavelvasilev384
@pavelvasilev384 Год назад
Haven't read the high republic but i will agree with 10 th placement and iam not including Pat Rock 10. Avar Kriss 9. Leia Organa (she fought with grandmaster Luke in a flashback) 8. Anakin Skiwalker 7. Mace Windu 6. Yoda 5. Cere Junda The vedio about her was very impressed and i consider Vader above Yoda so getting close to killing Vader is equal ro killing Yoda 4. Ashoka Tano She fought Vader (that was going for a kill) in later point in the timeline than Cere 3. Rey Skywalker 2. Ben Solo 1. Luke Skywalker 0.5. Rey (all the Jedi) 0. Anakin (Mortis amp)
@latorreroja1196
@latorreroja1196 Год назад
Leia fought with a 5 ABY Luke, he wasn't the Grandmaster because he didn't even brought back the Jedi Order yet.
@melb_cc
@melb_cc 3 месяца назад
Ahsoka tano and cere above Yoda is absolutely disgusting never rank again 🙏🙏
@Maddog-xc2zv
@Maddog-xc2zv 2 месяца назад
Ahsoka was beaten by Skoll in her series (which for me are crap). Skoll was affraid of Anakin/vader as heck and all indicates he fled the temple while Ani stormed it. So being ranked higher than anakin is pure fantasy. Cere is most likely a better and more complete Jedi (or force wielder, as Ahsoka is no Jedi as she left the order as a Padowan never to return), but at the same time we really don't know how much Vader played with her until he got serious and impaled her after realizing she was more powerful than he first expected.
@fademiller3874
@fademiller3874 Год назад
Why is episode four Obi-Wan Kenobi not on this list😢 he directly skills to Darth Vader so he’s on the same level of Ahsoka and episode six Luke Skywalker.
@latorreroja1196
@latorreroja1196 Год назад
In Legends he does, but not in canon. From a Certain Point of View states he was being destroyed by a holding back Vader who wanted to see how much weaker Kenobi had become.
@Mr.DelicateTouch
@Mr.DelicateTouch Год назад
Obi-Wan in canon is just not that powerful. He’s a great character no doubt but he’s never really been one of the top dogs in Force power
@jarredjenkins8054
@jarredjenkins8054 10 месяцев назад
Obi wan Kenobi is top 10. Sure his raw Force power is mediocre at best, but -thinking about power as in who wins in a 1v1 battle to the death. Kenobi annihilates basically anyone who isn't Top 10. His record of feats is absolutely incredible. He won a 2v1 duel against Savage oppress and Darth maul. Later killed maul in THREE moves Beat Darth vader twice kicked his ass and chopped him up. He outsmarts his opponents with his unrivaled fight iq , he don't need a huge midoclorian count to be considered "powerful" All the feats ahsoka has done kenobi did it better
@Tambokon2099
@Tambokon2099 9 месяцев назад
AGREED like a lot of famous star wars content creator PUT Kenobi in Top 3...... this channel has know nothing about starwars LOL
@aaronrodriguez9376
@aaronrodriguez9376 8 месяцев назад
The Vader obi wan fought was 6 times weaker than the one ahsoka fought. As that Vader was conflicted, non prime, surprised, and over confident. On top of that the Vader ahsoka fought was being buffed by a dark side nexus. This means ahsoka was slightly stronger.
@nightknave744
@nightknave744 8 месяцев назад
​@@aaronrodriguez9376And yet she loses to Baylan twice.
@Maddog-xc2zv
@Maddog-xc2zv 2 месяца назад
@@nightknave744 yeah, Ahsoka seems to be a bit overrated here. It's like a "disney" effect. And I do love Ahsoka, but the clone wars Ahsoka, not the crossed arms one in the Mandalorian and Ashoka series - they really lame regarding character depth and general writing...
@patrickperlas
@patrickperlas Год назад
i dunno... we weren't there when yoda was like 350 years old when he was still a gremlin stud, so...
@xXSonTJXx
@xXSonTJXx Год назад
Very interesting list, never considered Ben that powerful. I had Rey as the strongest because of the amp she got to beat Sidious. But I like the fact Luke is the strongest with Full Potential Anakin who could be the strongest as well.
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
Rey would be the strongest considering the amp, but as it was temporary, I had her at normal level for this video. I’m sure she will be top 3 when her new movie comes out.
@ryanRosenblatt
@ryanRosenblatt Год назад
@@KeyIssues Question is Rey with the amp her basically having the power of every Jedi
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 Год назад
@@ryanRosenblatt yeah based off what she said it’d be roughly thag
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
@@ryanRosenblattyes
@Ballism.
@Ballism. 9 месяцев назад
Even amped rey doesn’t scale to prime luke
@monkiyaz
@monkiyaz Год назад
Tossing around islands? And people gave Starkiller crap for redirecting a Star Destroyer…
@Maddog-xc2zv
@Maddog-xc2zv 2 месяца назад
not canon anymore. thank disney. also in the EU Luke was able to create dark holes, so... Disney canon sucks.
@Nate-mq4rh
@Nate-mq4rh 5 месяцев назад
I really wish star wars wouldn't super insane god level force feats, it hurts the lore especially how the original trilogy is more fantasy than sci fi like the prequels and sequels
@blackpython204
@blackpython204 11 месяцев назад
I agree with the list but I don’t believe mace windu should b behind a lot of the ppl in front of him… also why isn’t shaak ti on the list… it was stated she equal to count dooku as a duelist, where is bastella, shatelle Shan
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues 10 месяцев назад
this is a canon video
@galacticgamingguy5906
@galacticgamingguy5906 Год назад
Thank you for Including Ben Solo. In the star wars community his power level is extremely understated. Would you consider doing a full video on his power? Awesome video!
@zachburton8334
@zachburton8334 5 месяцев назад
Bro you gotta be kidding this list hurts me as a star wars fan lol
@ItsVoidSkill
@ItsVoidSkill 3 месяца назад
Such a terrible list
@Nathan24634
@Nathan24634 2 месяца назад
​@@ItsVoidSkill How is it terrible
@jacoblivingood2217
@jacoblivingood2217 4 месяца назад
I think all your explanations are great. My only thought is that multiple times you mentioned Anakin, Mace, and Yoda are argued about which is stronger, yet Yoda doesn't make the list at all. While Mace may have beaten Sidious, though i don't necessarily believe sidious fought Mace 100% as he was a master tactician working to bring Anakin to the Dark, Yoda was also able to go toe to toe with him at over 800 years old. I'm not 100% sure where on the list I'd put him, but i think Yoda deserves a spot, even if only number 10
@Cartoon-Dog
@Cartoon-Dog Месяц назад
???? Yoda is literally on the list at #6
@thats4thebirds
@thats4thebirds Год назад
Cal steady on the rise
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
Maybe in the top 10 by his next game? 👀
@wkdxcrimex
@wkdxcrimex Год назад
On the rise but far from this list from survivor he’s half as powerful as cere who myself think is lucky to have made this list
@Maddog-xc2zv
@Maddog-xc2zv 2 месяца назад
@@wkdxcrimex he's pretty much more near to Cere at the end, mainly after working together with another force sensitive, Merrin, and by tapping to the Dark Side. If he can tap on it in a similar way Windu does, he surely will gain a place on the top ten. Don't forget he defeated Dagan, a high republic Jedi Master turned dark jedi, surpassing him where he was more powerful, his mind tricks; he also defeated a Gendai also beaten by Dagan to whom he says Cal is his pair as a Jedi. 23 yo, not yet on his prime, and promising even to get on the top 5 of this list, but ofc we need to wait on which direction the next game will turn to.
@wkdxcrimex
@wkdxcrimex 2 месяца назад
@@Maddog-xc2zv he might reach top 10 of the prequel/empire era but top 5 is way too far, Yoda Mace Anakin kenobi plo Ahsoka kit fisto are just too powerful even for cal
@Maddog-xc2zv
@Maddog-xc2zv 2 месяца назад
@@wkdxcrimex So you know the complete story already? good for you.
@blinxIII
@blinxIII Год назад
i love this video. great information presented. i gotta say rey and ben being more powerful than ahsoka kinda blew my mind but you had great sources. excellent video!
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
Appreciate it !
@Mr.DelicateTouch
@Mr.DelicateTouch Год назад
I feel like they would still lose to her due to her far superior combat skill, knowledge, and intelligence.
@wadewilson8011
@wadewilson8011 10 месяцев назад
He had great sources and didn't pay attention to any of them. This is the most subjective list I've ever seen, and any true Star Wars fans who has studied the lore and canon will tell you that this list's order is absolutely absurd. Ahsoka more powerful than Anakin, Mace, AND Yoda??? GTFOH. Stop with that BS right there. You're ignorant or lying to yourself if you agree with this clown.
@latorreroja1196
@latorreroja1196 Год назад
Where is Coleman Trebor?
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
Beyond comprehension
@sse22406
@sse22406 Год назад
How powerful is Palpatine video maybe in the future?
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
Yep!
@MasterOfTheElements
@MasterOfTheElements Год назад
I think Yoda is more powerful than Windu but Mace would maybe be the better fighter. But I do believe that Yoda is the most powerful jedi during the Clone Wars.
@TheChadChamp
@TheChadChamp Год назад
PORTER MY GOAT
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
The best there is!
@sillyhetzal
@sillyhetzal Год назад
Our goat
@PoppySeed-jd6pi
@PoppySeed-jd6pi 5 месяцев назад
Like come on anyone who actually watch and read no about mace im so hurt 😂
@onlyone3241
@onlyone3241 Год назад
Oh yes this is FAX and the people that aren't on tune with the power scaling of this canon will be mad
@dacorikeidjn7592
@dacorikeidjn7592 3 месяца назад
Finally ahsoka gets some respect
@giovannigamberoni1542
@giovannigamberoni1542 Год назад
What about the sith?
@michelegavelli2479
@michelegavelli2479 10 месяцев назад
This list doesn’t make any sense, how can you not include obi wan kenobi? He beat maul as a padawan, he beat grievous plenty of times, and he also killed him (and mace windu himself stated that the only one capable of consistently beating grievous was obi wan). He outsmarted Vader on mustafar cutting off 3 of his limbs, he destroyed him once again in the kenobi series and hold his own before sacrificing himself in their last encounter (and that time, George Lucas said that his force power scale was way higher than Vader’s, in fact he was at the same level as palpatine). He also killed maul, and defeated him and his brother many times in various encounters. He’s the master of soresu, and it’s stated that a master of soresu at his peak is technically unbeatable in a duel. And also last but not least, he’s the master of high ground. He’s canonically unbeatable, arguably one of the most powerful entities in the galaxy (and probably the strongest Jedi ever) when the high ground is involved in the battle
@aaronrodriguez9376
@aaronrodriguez9376 8 месяцев назад
First of all maul was going very easy on obi wan probably not even using half his power. He was a complete counter to grievous which is why he was able to defeat him. Anakin was severely nerfed mustafar and obi wan had to become enlightened to defeat him. Finally when he fought Vader in the Kenobi series he caught him off guard, and had to become enlightened again. On top of that this is a non prime Vader who was very conflicted, overconfident, and got surprised by obi wan because he thought he won. Which means this Vader was probably around 6 times weaker than the one ahsoka fought and 3 times weaker than the one cere fought.
@sillyhetzal
@sillyhetzal Год назад
Avar Kriss my goat
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
She's awesome!
@yoseph1869
@yoseph1869 4 дня назад
Obi wan beat anakin be shod be on this list at least, and mace windu can beat palpatine so he should be higher than Ashoka
@lordvader8981
@lordvader8981 9 месяцев назад
You're underestimate my power!!! Disagreed with a lot but good video and I definitely agree with number 1
@nhc7772
@nhc7772 Год назад
Is Revan not in cannon?
@BATMAN-pp6wz
@BATMAN-pp6wz Год назад
He exists but he doesn't have enough canon material
@Ballism.
@Ballism. 9 месяцев назад
No
@shararrahman154
@shararrahman154 Год назад
Can you do dceu Superman vs Mcu Thor
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
Superman SLAMS but yah maybe one day
@shararrahman154
@shararrahman154 Год назад
@@KeyIssues well apparently the Snyder cut is canon now so maybe when you do a video you can use that lol
@Ballism.
@Ballism. 9 месяцев назад
Thor stomps badly
@Demonic-jr9qr
@Demonic-jr9qr 26 дней назад
May just be my personal bias against Luke, as I see him as a crybaby who gave up on the Force just because one of his students turned to the dark side, but I don't think he's nearly as powerful as people seem to think. If the original Jedi Order gave up on the Force when their students turned to the dark side, they would've dissolved during the time of Xendor, 20,000+ years before even the prequel movies. Although, I will admit most of my knowledge past the original trilogy is very limited.
@ajanicunningham9617
@ajanicunningham9617 Год назад
Can anybody tell me where the fight from 11:29 is from, please?
@latorreroja1196
@latorreroja1196 Год назад
Galaxy From Adventures. You can find it searching "Yoda vs Count Dooku Animated"
@ajanicunningham9617
@ajanicunningham9617 Год назад
@@latorreroja1196 Thanks
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