Another example of how safe flying is. Never in the history of aviation has any aircraft been left up in the sky. Every single one of them have come back down. Perfect record.
Here is the reply from the pilot, he buried it in a post below, by replying to a question and it's about 50 spots down, so, here you go: " Mark Penell Mark Penell 6 days ago I want to thank all of you who have made comments and I want to apologize ahead of time for not answering them. I hope that posting this in the public section everyone will be able to view it and answer most of the common questions that I receive. This is a Rans S-10 LSA airplane that I built about 5 years ago. It took 650 hours to build and it has a Rotax 582. It was the first time I built an airplane and hopefully the last. The most common questions that I get is what the noise or vibration is in the video, why do I keep advancing the throttle, why didn’t I remove the airplane form the runaway and lastly why did the propellar come off. The vibration is simply the GoPro vibration against the canopy which has a round shape and I couldn’t find the exact GoPro mount to affix to the canopy so that sound is not really heard in the cockpit like you can hear it on the video. Yes, on the bottom right door near the latch you can see a small flapping of the Lexan but that doesnt make any sound what so ever. I kept advancing the throttle because the GoPro records at 30 frames per second and the propeller is moving so fast that the eye can’t see it when at cruise speed. So, when the prop fell off I thought I had another/different issue than a missing propellar. Why did I keep the airplane on the runway? I glided into B16 or Whiteford's airport in central NY. It’s a relatively small airport with a hard top and parallel grass strip. I had a radio and called an emergency and there was a parachute/jumping company there who helped me roll it back to the tarmac. There is little to no traffic at that airport and in less than 5 minutes I was moving the airplane. The actual video is almost an hour and you can see that video if you search for video (I’m looking for the full length and will post it here). Finally, why? First off it was pilot error or the mechanics error which was me. The guidelines for mounting a new prop is torque every hour of operation for the ensuing 5 hours (5 torques). However, after the 3rd hour there wasn’t any more torque that was needed. However, seeing that I didn’t know the correct torque procedure might have had some reason as to why it fell off. I was told that the proper way to torque is to back off the nut then retorque, but I wasn’t aware of that. Secondly, and this may not play too much into this, but the propeller was a new wooden propeller more specifically a left hand that aren’t in stock very often and was made 2 weeks before I bought it. Wooded propellers are lamented layers of wood that are kiln dried to reduce or remove moisture in the wood (So I have been told). I hangered my airplane in an open “T” hangar and the propeller faced the south while hangered and when the sun set it would just heat the propeller and there are some who think that may have shrunk the propeller just enough so that the six 5/16 bolts were ever so slightly loose. With all of that said the bolts that mounted the propeller (with a crush plate) to the flange. There are English size threads and metric size threads. I was using the smaller bolts that I had installed and uninstalled many times (the exact number I’m not sure but more that 10 times). I should have just bought the 8mm bolts and used those instead which of course I did when I bought the Warp drive propeller. I hope that I have answered most of the common questions I get. I’m truly grateful for all the comments and views that I get from you all. I have over 1,500 other videos from my Taylor craft BC12-D and my Cessna 140A. Please give them a look when you get time. "
He looked at the front of the plane like the way I look at my cat when it falls asleep in a stupid position 🤣. If I heard a thwpthwpthwp in my car I'm like 🤤😲😭. So chill
He was trying to process the fact that the prop really was gone. In actual flight, there are times when you don't even see the prop at all, so I can understand why he was double checking.
Mark. I have been a flight instructor for 30 years. I would fly with you any day. We can all learn from your calm demeanor and your skillful handling of this emergency. Well done!!
My flight instructor kept reminding me over and over .... and over, before anything FLY THE PLANE and keep your eyes looking outside the cockpit. It has always worked and you tend to remember things that are drilled into your memory.
Does that include revving the engine a few times after the prop was gone or was it that he didn't realize it was missing until the walk around on the ground?
Meanwhile on the ground, some poor shmuck who just narrowly missed being conked by the falling propeller is standing there looking at it, thinking "Lord thunderin' Jesus, wouldja look at that, Martha? Some poor kid tried throwing his boomerang and it got away from him."
I want to thank all of you who have made comments and I want to apologize ahead of time for not answering them. I hope that posting this in the public section everyone will be able to view it and answer most of the common questions that I receive. This is a Rans S-10 LSA airplane that I built about 5 years ago. It took 650 hours to build and it has a Rotax 582. It was the first time I built an airplane and hopefully the last. The most common questions that I get is what the noise or vibration is in the video, why do I keep advancing the throttle, why didn’t I remove the airplane form the runaway and lastly why did the propellar come off. The vibration is simply the GoPro vibration against the canopy which has a round shape and I couldn’t find the exact GoPro mount to affix to the canopy so that sound is not really heard in the cockpit like you can hear it on the video. Yes, on the bottom right door near the latch you can see a small flapping of the Lexan but that doesnt make any sound what so ever. I kept advancing the throttle because the GoPro records at 30 frames per second and the propeller is moving so fast that the eye can’t see it when at cruise speed. So, when the prop fell off I thought I had another/different issue than a missing propellar. Why did I keep the airplane on the runway? I glided into B16 or Whiteford's airport in central NY. It’s a relatively small airport with a hard top and parallel grass strip. I had a radio and called an emergency and there was a parachute/jumping company there who helped me roll it back to the tarmac. There is little to no traffic at that airport and in less than 5 minutes I was moving the airplane. The actual video is almost an hour and you can see that video if you search for video (I’m looking for the full length and will post it here). Finally, why? First off it was pilot error or the mechanics error which was me. The guidelines for mounting a new prop is torque every hour of operation for the ensuing 5 hours (5 torques). However, after the 3rd hour there wasn’t any more torque that was needed. However, seeing that I didn’t know the correct torque procedure might have had some reason as to why it fell off. I was told that the proper way to torque is to back off the nut then retorque, but I wasn’t aware of that. Secondly, and this may not play too much into this, but the propeller was a new wooden propeller more specifically a left hand that aren’t in stock very often and was made 2 weeks before I bought it. Wooded propellers are lamented layers of wood that are kiln dried to reduce or remove moisture in the wood (So I have been told). I hangered my airplane in an open “T” hangar and the propeller faced the south while hangered and when the sun set it would just heat the propeller and there are some who think that may have shrunk the propeller just enough so that the six 5/16 bolts were ever so slightly loose. With all of that said the bolts that mounted the propeller (with a crush plate) to the flange. There are English size threads and metric size threads. I was using the smaller bolts that I had installed and uninstalled many times (the exact number I’m not sure but more that 10 times). I should have just bought the 8mm bolts and used those instead which of course I did when I bought the Warp drive propeller. I hope that I have answered most of the common questions I get. I’m truly grateful for all the comments and views that I get from you all. I have over 1,500 other videos from my Taylor craft BC12-D and my Cessna 140A. Please give them a look when you get time.
@@stephenphillip5656 No, that happened but at least he had the sense to throttle back before having the complete lack of sense to keep trying to throttle up.
Thank you Brother, for posting this. I've had to perform an off field landing when a coolant hose blew off my Rotax 912ULS because the retaining clamp had been installed incorrectly. High cylinder head temps gradually reduced clearances that quickly reduced available power as I desperately searched for the clearest patch of undeveloped land below me. Kudos to you for successfully managing this event with no thrust at all. Don't let anyone affect you with criticism if they have never been in this position. This was not a video game. You performed admirably.
Well done! I had one single dead-stick landing in some 30-odd years flying. I also made it to the runway (was some 5000ft AGL and near the airport). On a related note - once a guy was doing aerobatics in a Fokker T-21 at the local flying club and he lost his prop. He landed and it seemed that was that. A couple of hours later a very upset man showed up at the flying club with the apparently undamaged prop, saying *_"I think this belongs to someone here. It fell in my back yard during a barbecue. You people could have killed someone"._* Awkward moment.
I love how this guy loses a prop mid-flight, doesn't utter so much as a word, turns around, lands the plane, gets out and looks at his plane with righteous indignation like, "Dangit, now I have to get a new prop." How does someone go through life with those enormous brass balls?
I'm pretty sure that's most of what flight training is -- first the basics how-to-fly-it, then: just training for ridiculous contingencies you hope won't ever happen.
Skilled pilot; kept his wits about him, nice smooth energy preserving turn back to the runway. And his reward.....he didn’t ruin his plane landing in a corn field.
I think it will rev quite happily on it’s one once the prop falls off. And I think he was more interested in landing than worryinG about the now unless engine’s RPM.
@@mfcmichael3564 You don't know what the hell you're talking about. HE LOST HIS PROP. How was he supposed to taxi off the runway? And could you dead-stick a plane down that well? This was a textbook emergency landing my friend.
@@JohnRBooth well to be fair all pilots is trained to do this, its also taught to keep cool and don't panic, keep airspeed (drop your flaps), a quick look at your rate of decent (from that make a quick avg of how much time you have in the air), look for an open space to make a landing if you can't make it back to the runway (you do this while you give your signal "pan pan pan")... you see the thing with fixed wing aircraft is that they can glide if there is lost of power, helicopters on the other hand well i wouldn't step foot in one of them things... i'm no daredevil...
Just saw Mark put his answer under my question and not the main section. Mark wrote: I want to thank all of you who have made comments and I want to apologize ahead of time for not answering them. I hope that posting this in the public section everyone will be able to view it and answer most of the common questions that I receive. This is a Rans S-10 LSA airplane that I built about 5 years ago. It took 650 hours to build and it has a Rotax 582. It was the first time I built an airplane and hopefully the last. The most common questions that I get is what the noise or vibration is in the video, why do I keep advancing the throttle, why didn’t I remove the airplane form the runaway and lastly why did the propellar come off. The vibration is simply the GoPro vibration against the canopy which has a round shape and I couldn’t find the exact GoPro mount to affix to the canopy so that sound is not really heard in the cockpit like you can hear it on the video. Yes, on the bottom right door near the latch you can see a small flapping of the Lexan but that doesnt make any sound what so ever. I kept advancing the throttle because the GoPro records at 30 frames per second and the propeller is moving so fast that the eye can’t see it when at cruise speed. So, when the prop fell off I thought I had another/different issue than a missing propellar. Why did I keep the airplane on the runway? I glided into B16 or Whiteford's airport in central NY. It’s a relatively small airport with a hard top and parallel grass strip. I had a radio and called an emergency and there was a parachute/jumping company there who helped me roll it back to the tarmac. There is little to no traffic at that airport and in less than 5 minutes I was moving the airplane. The actual video is almost an hour and you can see that video if you search for video (I’m looking for the full length and will post it here). Finally, why? First off it was pilot error or the mechanics error which was me. The guidelines for mounting a new prop is torque every hour of operation for the ensuing 5 hours (5 torques). However, after the 3rd hour there wasn’t any more torque that was needed. However, seeing that I didn’t know the correct torque procedure might have had some reason as to why it fell off. I was told that the proper way to torque is to back off the nut then retorque, but I wasn’t aware of that. Secondly, and this may not play too much into this, but the propeller was a new wooden propeller more specifically a left hand that aren’t in stock very often and was made 2 weeks before I bought it. Wooded propellers are lamented layers of wood that are kiln dried to reduce or remove moisture in the wood (So I have been told). I hangered my airplane in an open “T” hangar and the propeller faced the south while hangered and when the sun set it would just heat the propeller and there are some who think that may have shrunk the propeller just enough so that the six 5/16 bolts were ever so slightly loose. With all of that said the bolts that mounted the propeller (with a crush plate) to the flange. There are English size threads and metric size threads. I was using the smaller bolts that I had installed and uninstalled many times (the exact number I’m not sure but more that 10 times). I should have just bought the 8mm bolts and used those instead which of course I did when I bought the Warp drive propeller. The propeller was never found I hope that I have answered most of the common questions I get. I’m truly grateful for all the comments and views that I get from you all. I have over 1,500 other videos from my Taylor craft BC12-D and my Cessna 140A. Please give them a look when you get time.
Thanks for the follow up comments. Thankfully you made a safe landing. My first flight instructor said any landing you walk away from is a good landing. 😎
Fantastic to have your view on the event. Also, despite all the great comedy in many of the comments, I am sure everyone of us out here is very happy for you that you made a perfectly safe landing on a runway and are with us to tell the tale. 😊
In order to maximise the chances of a favourable outcome for any adverse situation, one should always remain calm no matter what is transpiring. One can train yourself to remain calm in any situation, even a situation you may have experienced before you encounter it. With great certainty, I can stay calm through any situation.
The expression “dead stick landing” actually harkens back to the days when all propellers were made of wood. The expression has nothing to do with the control “stick”, it is a reference to a propeller that has stopped turning (i.e. “dead”). So technically, this was a “missing stick landing” - LOL!
Thank you for posting, i was just about to ask someone why this is a dead stick landing, when the stick was still operating ok, then i suddenly see your comment, so thanks again and a Merry Christmas to you and your family and loved ones.
You can tell that this pilot was very seasoned. he was collected and attentive. Aside from the prop falling off the only other thing that was annoying was the floppy canopy in the corner. Good job at keeping a cool head under the circumstances. Any landing you can walk away from is always a good one. :-)
It's just scary knowing that there's a prop out there walking the streets. Untethered. Full of rage. Not knowing where to go next, who to look towards for direction. A prop like that has nothing to lose. A prop like that is dangerous.
...and he didnt say one damn word from the first vibration until he was on the ground looking at the front end. Not even one Damn, shi*, f*** or nothing. Guy was as cool as a cucumber. Very professional. Mark Pernell, you are one hell of a good pilot. Thank you for your de-briefing published below. Very helpful.
Man the comments on this are an absolute blast!! You did wonderful Mark, but knowing you'd nail the landing, I had to laugh when the prop just went bye bye :)
Good Job! The guys that simulate engine failures should take a look at what they should do in a real loss of power. You handled it outstanding. Welcome top the club as a survivor.
I remember a woman in Quartz Hill, CA who had a wheel fall into her front yard where she was gardening after I watched it fall from a Piper Cherokee that had just taken off. The landing at John Wayne Airport was on the news that evening.
I lived next to Bankstown Airport in nsw Australia ,, we woud find strange things on the lawn when mowing the grass ,, the best was a wheel from a cessna 187 we took it to the areodrome and they said Oh thats where it ended up ,, They did ask if there was any damage ,, Rob RPL NSW Australia
I want to thank all of you who have made comments and I want to apologize ahead of time for not answering them. I hope that posting this in the public section everyone will be able to view it and answer most of the common questions that I receive. This is a Rans S-10 LSA airplane that I built about 5 years ago. It took 650 hours to build and it has a Rotax 582. It was the first time I built an airplane and hopefully the last. The most common questions that I get is what the noise or vibration is in the video, why do I keep advancing the throttle, why didn’t I remove the airplane form the runaway and lastly why did the propellar come off. The vibration is simply the GoPro vibration against the canopy which has a round shape and I couldn’t find the exact GoPro mount to affix to the canopy so that sound is not really heard in the cockpit like you can hear it on the video. Yes, on the bottom right door near the latch you can see a small flapping of the Lexan but that doesnt make any sound what so ever. I kept advancing the throttle because the GoPro records at 30 frames per second and the propeller is moving so fast that the eye can’t see it when at cruise speed. So, when the prop fell off I thought I had another/different issue than a missing propellar. Why did I keep the airplane on the runway? I glided into B16 or Whiteford's airport in central NY. It’s a relatively small airport with a hard top and parallel grass strip. I had a radio and called an emergency and there was a parachute/jumping company there who helped me roll it back to the tarmac. There is little to no traffic at that airport and in less than 5 minutes I was moving the airplane. The actual video is almost an hour and you can see that video if you search for video (I’m looking for the full length and will post it here). Finally, why? First off it was pilot error or the mechanics error which was me. The guidelines for mounting a new prop is torque every hour of operation for the ensuing 5 hours (5 torques). However, after the 3rd hour there wasn’t any more torque that was needed. However, seeing that I didn’t know the correct torque procedure might have had some reason as to why it fell off. I was told that the proper way to torque is to back off the nut then retorque, but I wasn’t aware of that. Secondly, and this may not play too much into this, but the propeller was a new wooden propeller more specifically a left hand that aren’t in stock very often and was made 2 weeks before I bought it. Wooded propellers are lamented layers of wood that are kiln dried to reduce or remove moisture in the wood (So I have been told). I hangered my airplane in an open “T” hangar and the propeller faced the south while hangered and when the sun set it would just heat the propeller and there are some who think that may have shrunk the propeller just enough so that the six 5/16 bolts were ever so slightly loose. With all of that said the bolts that mounted the propeller (with a crush plate) to the flange. There are English size threads and metric size threads. I was using the smaller bolts that I had installed and uninstalled many times (the exact number I’m not sure but more that 10 times). I should have just bought the 8mm bolts and used those instead which of course I did when I bought the Warp drive propeller. I hope that I have answered most of the common questions I get. I’m truly grateful for all the comments and views that I get from you all. I have over 1,500 other videos from my Taylor craft BC12-D and my Cessna 140A. Please give them a look when you get time.
well I heard somewhere that the origin of the name “dead stick” landing referred to propellers planes with a faulty engine where the propeller was nothing more than a “dead stick” of wood, so this should be identified as a “gone stick” landing. 🤭🤗
@@justins.1283 It's a good thing to practice. Loss of power within gliding range of an airport is one of the few disasters that can be averted after it happens. Be a shame if a perfectly landable aircraft smacked the tarmac due to pilot error.
Nice landing. My Dad has to dead stick his Stinson just after take off. At just over 700 feet alt his nose started to violently shake up and down. He realized, after engine shut down, a prop broke off. He declared an emergency, eases the plane in to a turn towards the runway and landed perfectly. Only after inspecting the aircraft did he begin to shake
I’m not going to read all 4.8k comments to find out if anyone has asked whether the nuts were wired. But if they were, why did any of them work loose? If they weren’t, why not? If this is not a requirement, why not? Did ALL SIX bolts fail? Was anything left in the prop shaft? And what is all that confusion about the bolt sizes English (imperial) and metric? Were they the correct high tensile aircraft grade bolts and nuts? Also, why did you take off in an aircraft without knowing the correct procedures for mounting the prop? Was the prop correctly balanced? Finally, why didn’t you cover the prop whilst hangered? Finally finally, did you ever recover the prop? Thank you for sharing this valuable lesson. It’s an excellent teacher. You’re also obviously an excellent pilot. I would be happy to fly with you - on the proviso that you’ve had absolutely NOTHING to do with the the building or maintenance of the aircraft. 🧐😎😜 Happy landings Peace.
Someone on the ground throws a boomerang, 10 seconds later a propeller lands at his feet. “Holy shit my boomerang not only came back but it leveled up!”
@@shootmcrunfast It was hilarious but pilots train for shit like this. In any case of engine failure, pitch to best glide speed first and then look for somewhere to land. Luckily he was still close to the runway and could turn around. Thought he was going to aim for one of those fields at first lol
I want to thank all of you who have made comments and I want to apologize ahead of time for not answering them. I hope that posting this in the public section everyone will be able to view it and answer most of the common questions that I receive. This is a Rans S-10 LSA airplane that I built about 5 years ago. It took 650 hours to build and it has a Rotax 582. It was the first time I built an airplane and hopefully the last. The most common questions that I get is what the noise or vibration is in the video, why do I keep advancing the throttle, why didn’t I remove the airplane form the runaway and lastly why did the propeller come off. The vibration is simply the GoPro vibration against the canopy where the GoPro attachment has a round shape and I couldn’t find the exact GoPro mount to affix to the canopy so that sound is not really heard in the cockpit like you can hear it on the video. Yes, on the bottom right door near the latch you can see a small flapping of the Lexan but that doesnt make any sound what so ever. I kept advancing the throttle because the GoPro records at 30 frames per second and the propeller is moving so fast that the eye can’t see it when at cruise speed. So, when the prop fell off I thought I had another/different issue than a missing propeller. Why did I keep the airplane on the runway? I glided into B16 or Whiteford's airport in central NY. It’s a relatively small airport with a hard top and parallel grass strip. I had a radio and called an emergency and there was a parachute/jumping company there who helped me roll it back to the tarmac. There is little to no traffic at that airport and in less than 5 minutes I was moving the airplane. The actual video is almost an hour and you can see that video if you search for video (I’m looking for the full length and will post it here). Finally, why? First off it was pilot error or the mechanics error which was me. The guidelines for mounting a new prop is torque every hour of operation for the ensuing 5 hours (5 torques). However, after the 3rd hour there wasn’t any more torque that was needed. However, seeing that I didn’t know the correct torque procedure might have had some reason as to why it fell off. I was told that the proper way to torque is to back off the nut then retorque, but I wasn’t aware of that. Secondly, and this may not play too much into this, but the propeller was a new wooden propeller more specifically a left hand that aren’t in stock very often and was made 2 weeks before I bought it. Wooded propellers are lamented layers of wood that are kiln dried to reduce or remove moisture in the wood (So I have been told). I hangered my airplane in an open “T” hangar and the propeller faced the south while hangered and when the sun set it would just heat the propeller and there are some who think that may have shrunk the English size threads and metric size threads. I was using the smaller bolts that I had installed and uninstalled many times (the exact number I’m not sure but more than 10 times). I should have just bought the 8mm bolts and used those instead which of course I did when I bought the Warp drive propeller. The 6 bolts snapped off completely at the flange and the spinner., crush plate, and propeller detached. None of this was ever found. I hope that I have answered most of the common questions I get. I’m truly grateful for all the comments and views that I get from you all. I have over 1,500 other videos from my Taylor craft BC12-D and my Cessna 140A. Please give them a look when you get time.
@@MarkPenell You did a fine job of handling the situation. I have some experience in engine failures but no propeller detatchments ( thankfully ). Your honesty is refreshing.
better to lose the whole prop than lose a blade. the engine will rip out of the airframe before you can even put your hand on the throttle. rearward cg. yur gonna die.
At least twice he instinctively increases the throttle despite having no prop - once for the turn to base (1:05) and again trying to exit the runway. It just shows how engrained these things are for a good pilot (adding power into a turn). Maybe I'd have shut down the engine in case it over-revved/overheated, but hey, who am I to criticise this cool customer! A perfect outcome to a bad situation.