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Rap 24 hp semidiesel, second start attempt. 

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This video illustrates what happends when these two stroke semidiesels run out due to too much oil in the crankcase. With my left hand, I block the injection pump, so from that time the engine run on lube oil only, no diesel at all. I have heard lots of stories about this from decades ago but this is the first time, to my knowledge, that it is captured on video. Luckily we had blocked most of the air intake prior to starting and ended at somewhat over 1000 rpm. Max operating rpm is 425-450. With full air supply, I would guess this engine would reach thousands of rpm and I could only guess what would have happened then...
The electric glowplug short circuited so we had to rely on the propane burner which had slightly low temperature. In this startattempt, we used an acetylene burner and got the glowplug bright red. The crankcase was, unfortunately, filled with too much oil so the engine was running on its lube oil from the crankcase instead of diesel. Still some trouble with the fuel injection, doesn't feel right when injecting diesel manually.

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@BigMaxTube
@BigMaxTube 14 лет назад
Best engine runaway ever! Balls of steel not to just depart stage left. I'd like to see more on this?
@TheSpazModic
@TheSpazModic 10 лет назад
At least it didn't launch a connecting rod into the next town.
@mayukhsgarage7286
@mayukhsgarage7286 6 лет назад
😂😂
@ostechtester1256
@ostechtester1256 6 лет назад
I've had to deal with a engine like that once only difference that it is seaced up and was used for parts (not including the piston head)
@djnautilus5074
@djnautilus5074 5 лет назад
i have a hard time picturing a connecting rod flying a long distance at such low rpm
@kedarpawar1612
@kedarpawar1612 4 года назад
Lmao!!!!
@TestECull
@TestECull 3 года назад
@@djnautilus5074 They're excruciatingly heavy in these engines. Get them moving and there isn't much to stop them.
@alexgee86
@alexgee86 7 лет назад
Sounds just like starting my car. Same starting procedure too
@pangpengmaster
@pangpengmaster 6 лет назад
I don't hope the same braking procedure though.
@tendertears2001
@tendertears2001 6 лет назад
lol
@SveinHaDD
@SveinHaDD 14 лет назад
Well, it took the whole rest of the day to get the grin off our faces ;-)
@invisiblekincajou
@invisiblekincajou 7 лет назад
you just don't understand. This ancient motor is ALIVE AGAIN, he just really wants to work!
@GhostOfDamned
@GhostOfDamned 4 года назад
2 stroke on crack
@lordatum8139
@lordatum8139 3 года назад
Yeah he just wants to work
@Bidone1967
@Bidone1967 14 лет назад
Wow! Thats look very dangerous.
@Vodichka9
@Vodichka9 13 лет назад
Great video! Reminds me that during the 1970s when I worked on M-B automotive diesel engines, they all had a butterfly in the air intake which would swing shut in the rare case when the engine could start in reverse and run on crankcase oil.
@NOLIMIT69NOLIMIT2000
@NOLIMIT69NOLIMIT2000 13 лет назад
Thumbs up to you guys for man handling it and teaching it who the boss is.
@mxd6
@mxd6 8 лет назад
VW TDI clean diesel demo.
@jablckovydzusik5377
@jablckovydzusik5377 6 лет назад
gunthreadadapters.com bullshit
@Koronzon444
@Koronzon444 6 лет назад
Most of that smoke is from the old as hell sump oil that they forget to drain.
@nurfaikhamhaiqal2528
@nurfaikhamhaiqal2528 6 лет назад
The cleanest they can get
@EngineEngineer
@EngineEngineer 5 лет назад
@@Koronzon444 It has no sump, it is a two stroke. The oil had collected in the crankcase where it shouldn't have been.
@davida1hiwaaynet
@davida1hiwaaynet 10 лет назад
That was exciting! Can't wait to see the engine running normally. Got to move to the next video!
@nitro105
@nitro105 12 лет назад
I had a similar event with a ruston hornsby running away on crank oil, the crank drain was plugged and the con rod splashed enough onto the cylinder bore to run away, luckily they have a decompression lever. Glad you kept it together.
@esartsse
@esartsse 12 лет назад
thanks for posted this video. very interesting to see this phenomenon. there are thousands of videos with hotbulb engines on youtube. but this video is unique in showing one going out of control like this.
@lowdownndirtycc
@lowdownndirtycc 12 лет назад
it is is always good to see our engineering history bought back to life-it is only those of us adventurous enough, and with the desire to experience how things were in the golden days of REAL technology , who can enjoy such fine machines-thanks for the film-and oh yeh a lot of the finest crazies i know wear clogs too!
@Heatlump
@Heatlump 15 лет назад
Excellent video... Looks like a nerve racking experience: I can imagine you had to fight your 'run away to avoid the potential flying metal' natrual instinct when both air intakes were blocked and it wasnt slowing down!
@ltr4300
@ltr4300 8 лет назад
I love watching these things...so many times I've fired an engine not knowing what to expect and get that mix of accomplishment and terror when it starts doing things I don't want it to. Like running away and trying to walk off the pedestal. LOL....some other crazy things I've done...had a Chevy with a 396 and a bad bottom end, was looking for a way to destroy it for good and hit on the idea of taking the carb off and throwing gas directly into the intake with no restriction. I'm pretty sure that motor hit 10,000 rpm before it spalled out and seized. Scary. Sounded like it was going to suck in the entire atmosphere. I had a '79 VW Rabbit diesel that had a unique runaway condition...they have a gear-driven vacuum pump in the block where the distributor would be...the diaphragm in the pump was bad and under high loads (like uphill ramp onto the highway) the intake vacuum would overpower that seal defect and allow it to start inhaling crankcase oil. When it happened the sound of the engine would abruptly change, a lot more diesel clatter than normal, an incredible sheet of smoke behind me, then it would get a burst of power and wouldn't back down when I released the throttle. I'd have to fight it down to a near stop in high gear, then shut the motor off without pressing the clutch, that would finally kill it. Then when I'd get home, I'd find the air filter literally dripping with oil, and the oil level would be around 2 qts low. It was kinda scary and yet fun in a weird way. I finally rebuilt the pump so it stopped doing that.
@tylerbonser7686
@tylerbonser7686 8 лет назад
I'm going to call major BS on the 396 running with no carb. Guessing you dont have a video of that.
@SazanD1
@SazanD1 8 лет назад
More fuel does not equal more bang without more air, so i second the major BS on that claim.
@painmagnet1
@painmagnet1 7 лет назад
REALLY? You guys are dipshits. Dump gas gas into an unthrottled intake and you get fire or rpm. If the intake, cam and exhaust will let the engine pull 10K rpm, that's what it will pull to. Any large displacement gasoline motor will run with gas dumped into the intake and even a moron knows that much...
@danmackintosh6325
@danmackintosh6325 3 года назад
@@painmagnet1 Glad someone got in there and set them straight before I had to. I'm not great with explaining things to folk who have no understanding...
@Barnekkid
@Barnekkid 10 лет назад
Ride 'em cowboy!!
@bluefire87HN
@bluefire87HN 6 лет назад
yeeeeee haaaaa!
@repairdroid77
@repairdroid77 13 лет назад
Fantastic video and very informative too. Very brave to stick with it. you are lucky it did not flip on you. Thanks for posting it.
@IronHearts007
@IronHearts007 9 лет назад
The dancing diesel engine
@kester135
@kester135 9 лет назад
Rüdiger Hertel bounce and boom bounce and boom come on everybody lets shake this room.
@martinmetsakuru5582
@martinmetsakuru5582 7 лет назад
rapping*
@Getta0422
@Getta0422 5 лет назад
Kester you just made my day 😂😂😂
@shanmugavelvel2871
@shanmugavelvel2871 5 лет назад
Watermesuns
@farmerphil
@farmerphil 13 лет назад
Great video on what can go wrong and how to keep calm and correct the problum. I had a Le Roi engine run wild with the crank handel still on the flywheel in my shop. It walked all over hitting other engines and throwing the crank handel threw the shop wall untill I managed to pull the magneto wire and stop it. I know what you went threw. Phil
@gregtucker8777
@gregtucker8777 3 года назад
I watched this video 157 times. Every time... It got better.
@wills.5762
@wills.5762 8 лет назад
That guy has balls of steel.
@robcowley3137
@robcowley3137 10 лет назад
That fella sure has some balls albeit they were on the fine line of being lost and gone forever,loves a bit of old school.
@mathuetax
@mathuetax 13 лет назад
Wow, that was really awesome to watch!
@TheFlacker99
@TheFlacker99 11 лет назад
Awesome reaction...quick and smart.
@northerbrewer
@northerbrewer 15 лет назад
Looks like you fellows have your hands full. Very nice engine good work!
@BigRoj
@BigRoj 11 лет назад
Looks like a slightly more advanced Harley engine, but doesn't shake as much!
@axlh.1827
@axlh.1827 5 лет назад
Sounds beautiful
@fontheking5
@fontheking5 15 лет назад
Så himla bra , bland det bästa jag har sett på youtube på länge
@Motaro76
@Motaro76 15 лет назад
Nice work! I wish you sucessful repairing of rare old engine!
@MrSpinteractive
@MrSpinteractive 13 лет назад
What a monster! Great video!
@daveycrockett64
@daveycrockett64 5 лет назад
Still one of my favorites on You Tube
@c130avn
@c130avn 9 лет назад
Very violent, I hope everybody had their steel toed boots on :)
@mikeymcmikeface5599
@mikeymcmikeface5599 4 года назад
That's a wild beast.
@THEBOILEDONE
@THEBOILEDONE 4 года назад
You guys are very brave
@shortybj40
@shortybj40 11 лет назад
looks nice and safe anyway, with all the gas lines getting tangled and the engine on top of them. top stuff.
@DatBlueHusky
@DatBlueHusky 14 лет назад
looks like alot of fun
@Pitchplus8
@Pitchplus8 9 лет назад
the beast has awake... This mechanic has balls from steal. I would run away while pissing in my pants :P
@kester135
@kester135 9 лет назад
Pitchplus Acht ahhh fuck this shit
@sepek6944
@sepek6944 6 лет назад
Pitchplus Acht yeep
@Xsses
@Xsses 7 лет назад
Literally unstoppable
@mfranzusan3014
@mfranzusan3014 7 лет назад
wow. congratulations on getting it stopped. That was the scariest thing I'd ever seen.
@fegolem
@fegolem 12 лет назад
Neat old engine. Glad it got under control before damage. A CO2 or Halon extinguisher would have been handy. Anyway, very nice old engine. Thanks for sharing your experience.
@sanfranciscobay
@sanfranciscobay 10 лет назад
Looks like a good engine for a trans arctic passenger plane. Smooth, reliable etc.
@ThatRandomMan1
@ThatRandomMan1 4 года назад
That engine weighs 5 tons. That is not going in a airplane 😂
@karlk6860
@karlk6860 4 года назад
THAT folks is a true handful!!!
@FireballGER
@FireballGER 11 лет назад
just wow.. runs very smoth
@castirondude
@castirondude 12 лет назад
good job keeping your cool! That's pretty hard when you have a monster like that on the loose!
@TheReaper1oo
@TheReaper1oo 12 лет назад
I unashamedly admit, that would've freaked me out and would have probably jumped away... Also, even though it isn't supposed to run that high it sounded surprisingly nice!
@yamahonkawazuki
@yamahonkawazuki 10 лет назад
good work guys.
@2stroke4me
@2stroke4me 11 лет назад
Very scary, but you obviousely knew how to deal with it!
@SveinHaDD
@SveinHaDD 15 лет назад
The CO2 extinguisher is a very good point, didn't think of that :-) Those red bottles are not fire extinguishers, they are propane (note the frost on the bottles) for pre-heating.
@daddi275
@daddi275 8 лет назад
24 hp paint shaker
@fungustmaster
@fungustmaster 8 лет назад
true
@hoang_nhitv5995
@hoang_nhitv5995 4 года назад
Lên đường bình an
@brocksterr2963
@brocksterr2963 7 лет назад
pretty smooth running...
@ueberRegenbogen
@ueberRegenbogen 14 лет назад
Stout old beast that wants to run! Beautiful! :D
@bikemike2777
@bikemike2777 8 лет назад
Wow that took you for a ride. good work
@tallfarmboy
@tallfarmboy 11 лет назад
Scary and cool at the same time... NICE!
@mrmyorky5634
@mrmyorky5634 4 года назад
Built in the days when men were men. I was expecting the flywheel to grind it's way through the air cylinder. Beautiful to watch & scary at the same time.
@SMOBY44
@SMOBY44 8 лет назад
I witnessed a Cummins 350hp genset throw a rod and then run on it's engine oil. Tach read to 3000 and was pegged for over ten minutes until the crankshaft siezed up. Runaway diesels are scary at best.
@BelialAndar
@BelialAndar 8 лет назад
+SMOBY44 I have seen a few diesels try to run away at the shop I work at. I keep a thick phone book close if we suspect one might cut loose. Killing the air supply is one of the best ways to stop a run away, unless you take the safe route and just run for dear life lol.
@SMOBY44
@SMOBY44 8 лет назад
+Andar Lucifer Unfortunatly this engine was on a Navy ship and the air intake was above deck. Wish I had video of this thing eating itself but it was in '86 and not many video cams at that time.
@Fischer0Dude
@Fischer0Dude 8 лет назад
+SMOBY44 My 91 7.3L ran away until I drove her into a lake. Water stops the engine quick.
@MarshallJukov
@MarshallJukov 8 лет назад
I really wonder who they don`t add some kind of air valve when they put air intake out of reach. As if they don`t know this kind of shit can happen time to time.
@Varinki
@Varinki 7 лет назад
EMD locomotives have an overspeed trip that locks all of the exhaust valves open until it is manually reset.
@sodemoot
@sodemoot 10 лет назад
wow, what a machine !
@morrismckinnon6047
@morrismckinnon6047 9 лет назад
I'd be to scared to even run! I'd be rocking back and forth in a corner sucking my thumb crying ''It wont stop, it'll never stop''
@joshmoore7300
@joshmoore7300 6 лет назад
hahaha that's funny
@heatherroseisrflyer
@heatherroseisrflyer 12 лет назад
@ElectronikHeart The bottom side of piston traveling up, draws air into the crankcase through some kind of check or reed valve in the side of the block. As the piston travels downward the air pressure closes off the check and forces the air thru another set off check or reed valves, through the intake ports, into the combustion chamber. If the oil level in the crankcase is too high, the air passing thru is saturated with oil and will burn in the combustion chamber, until there is no more oil.
@darknrgy
@darknrgy 14 лет назад
That literally looks like 24 horses are trying to get out of there. Nice job keeping your cool and not letting it get away from you.
@LeaveYouOnRead
@LeaveYouOnRead 12 лет назад
thats is a brave old man.
@kmtm8886
@kmtm8886 3 года назад
Good job
@oilylampman7252
@oilylampman7252 2 года назад
Health and safety officers showing how to operate and engine properly!
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 12 лет назад
Bear-tastic. I like the way the video catches that moment of "sh*t, sh*t, sh*t, sh*t, sh*t!" How was your hand afterwards, I noticed you checking it out.
@xxAlexanderTheGreatx
@xxAlexanderTheGreatx 3 года назад
So weird finding a big Clive comment on a 9 year old video lol
@danmackintosh6325
@danmackintosh6325 3 года назад
@@xxAlexanderTheGreatx Why is it only now we're seeing this? I've watched this video a few times over the years (am a strange creature, but sure you understand lol) but never seen The Boss Bear's comment before...
@echothehusky
@echothehusky 2 года назад
@@danmackintosh6325 Same...
@SveinHaDD
@SveinHaDD 12 лет назад
@EATSLEEPDRIVE2002 You have no idea how close this was to a total disaster. If it hadn't been for one of two air intakes were totally closed prior to start, the engine would have revved to pieces... When the piston goes up, fresh air is sucked into the crank case and when the piston is moving down, this air is compressed and eventually ports in the cylinder is opened the cylinder is filled with air. The excess oil in the crankcase were blown up to the combustion chamber.
@northerbrewer
@northerbrewer 15 лет назад
Yes very cool under presure guys. The C02 is a good idea. I am not a mechanic but I keep several CO2 fire extiguishers around the diesel machinery where I work just in case I ever have tio snuff out an angine. Runaways and fires do happen but I have been lucky and never seen one.
@Snapper2000GX
@Snapper2000GX 13 лет назад
It goes to show how well older engines were designed
@SveinHaDD
@SveinHaDD 12 лет назад
@mikeys205 Yes it did. It changed direction 3 times before it got turning over TDC. Same thing, only once, when we got it running normally. When the engine rpm stabilizes, I change direction by shutting down fuel injection at 2:58 and at exactly the right moment, 3.03, I give a couple of manual injections.
@SveinHaDD
@SveinHaDD 12 лет назад
@ElectronikHeart As on most two-stroke engines, the combustion air is fed thru the crankcase where the bottom side of the piston acts as an air pump. The crank splashes down into the lube oil and drops of oil follow the air into the combustion chamber.
@fabianprocruzpeo8289
@fabianprocruzpeo8289 8 месяцев назад
Bro said "Im gonna run away" and entered Runaway state
@SparketDog
@SparketDog 11 лет назад
best video ever here on utube
@SvenOkonomi
@SvenOkonomi 13 лет назад
Ive honestly never seen an "angry" machine like this before. That thing cobbles around like its weighs nothing. Youve got nerves of steel operating that behemoth thumper.
@JasonJason210
@JasonJason210 11 лет назад
This is just hillarious (as well as interesting). Bouncing around all over the place - and the guy uses and acetylene torch to heat it up to start it!
@CraniumDislocator
@CraniumDislocator 5 лет назад
What a hero!
@Igitur23
@Igitur23 8 лет назад
Crazy guys! I like them! ;)
@ab1000
@ab1000 13 лет назад
nice rhythm!
@markflierl1624
@markflierl1624 5 лет назад
Look at that old gizzer just puffing away.
@STriderFIN77
@STriderFIN77 6 лет назад
Amazingk Engine!!
@SveinHaDD
@SveinHaDD 15 лет назад
You're absolutly right. The one thing that prevented a disaster was that one air intake was blocked prior to start and the other intake was blocked when the rpm increased. If both intakes had been blocked 100% the engine would stop within seconds but we had some leaks...
@leopost5636
@leopost5636 8 лет назад
i once had a kromhout 2 stroke in a small tugboat , it also ran away , in the middle of an busy canal , it ejected its smoke stack , old skipper told me later the flywheel will come off first , followed by the cyl head , flywheels of 2 tons will easily penetrate bulkheads , scared the shit out of me !!!
@31144
@31144 15 лет назад
Got to be one of the best old engine start ups on youtube,proper "oh shit" looks on everyones face,well done lads,post more when you get her running well,A+++
@SveinHaDD
@SveinHaDD 15 лет назад
Most of these engines should have a dry crankcase and they also have an automatic draining system but this one (as far as I remember, all RAP engines from this size and larger) need to have a certain oil level to insure crank bearing lubrication. Unfortunately, we added slightly too much oil...
@MangoHombre
@MangoHombre 12 лет назад
When my friends came over to watch me start my Ford 427 for the first time I think this is what they were expecting/hoping to happen.
@michaelengel3407
@michaelengel3407 3 года назад
Well, runs silky smooth
@Jayui22
@Jayui22 12 лет назад
He got balls of steel baby.
@Opelascona1986
@Opelascona1986 9 лет назад
that is one violent engine :)
@skiddy8619
@skiddy8619 9 лет назад
Who needs a ground packer, when you can just turn this big ol beast loose...
@pirminkogleck4056
@pirminkogleck4056 2 года назад
very brave men! !!!!!!
@SveinHaDD
@SveinHaDD 12 лет назад
Yes, it is a kind og splash lube. A small amount of oil is fed to the crankcase and a pick up tube on the crank bearing is lubricating the bearing. Excess oil, usually in very small amounts, follows the combustion air and is burnt.
@514570HP
@514570HP 12 лет назад
She is strong and beauty !!!!
@F111C4EVER
@F111C4EVER 13 лет назад
What an animal !!! Love it !!!
@MrBranboom
@MrBranboom 10 лет назад
Shit guys, glad you came out ok.
@polytech_nu
@polytech_nu 7 лет назад
I see there's enough work in this world for me as a CE consultant.
@SveinHaDD
@SveinHaDD 12 лет назад
@druszan17 No, it is a buffertank for start air. The acetylene tank is stored properly in the cradle at the right side of the engine.
@SveinHaDD
@SveinHaDD 11 лет назад
We used about 6.5 bar/95 psi which is quite a bit on the low side. I believe the pressure should be about 12-14 bar/175-200 psi. Normally the start tank is filled by leaking a bit of the combustion pressure into the tank after the engine have started.
@mytickets
@mytickets 14 лет назад
Gota love the old diesels
@user-lm2ke3kd2s
@user-lm2ke3kd2s 8 месяцев назад
Хорошо ,что все живы и здоровы. Никого не намотало
@northerbrewer
@northerbrewer 12 лет назад
@SveinHaDD I keep a Co2 fire extinguisher handy for runaways . Does not damage the engine just dsiplaces the O2 and snuffs them out.
@wadewilzon
@wadewilzon Год назад
woke up from eternal sleep just to choose violence.
@theduke502
@theduke502 13 лет назад
@SveinHaDD Neat video! The engine had a pretty good sound towards the end of the video. It sounded sleepy at first, then woke up from a good nap :D
@captainaleouse
@captainaleouse 13 лет назад
its on the move! haha love it!
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