For those defending Future, and saying that others would be able to understand him with some prerequisite knowledge or dialect...he actually said in an interview that he invented the sound from "Tony Montana" when he freestyled in the studio high. He came back the next day, and said "You...you can't even understand it. WTF was I saying!? Lol" but he thought it sounded kind of cool, and that's how he decided to brand himself. Right or wrong, cool or not, it's not some authentic style that he's championing. It's a gimmick, meant to make money by being intentionally lazy. It worked. Congrats to your boy, but it's definitely worthy of criticism lol
You have to have a deeper knowledge of southern hip hop to understand Future.... there is a heavier emphasis on cadence and flow opposed to groundbreaking lyricism, though if you understand the slang, you will catch some very witty lines. Go back to 'Karate Chop', no one ever rapped a whole song in that chopped up flow, and for a while it became a staple. He's "your typical trap rapper" to those out of the loop, but he does think outside the box, most of the time. If you dig into Future's mixtapeography, you will get a lot of that, as well as a few gems, believe it or not....he didn't start off this watered down, he does have a background with the Dungeon Family That style of rapping can be stemed to Gucci, who, if you also judge him solely on his mainstream single you might not understand the appeal either. But if you really dig into his vast collection, you will hear unorthodox flows and sharp wordplay, especially 2006-2010, before the drugs hit him... Before Gucci, Project Pat is the guru of that shit. Bars wasn't off the wall or nothing, but every song and every verse, you know Pat is going to ride the beat in a unpredictable way. Some random cat in the studio might pop up to say 2 words in the middle of his lines, or Pat might just say some shit to make you spit out your drink and bust out laughing. I could argue, Project Pat or Gucci are top 20 MCs, but if someone isn't a fan of the southern hip hop genre, I don't blame them if they couldn't see where I was coming from....
Jimmy Rorie - I understand what you're saying but that's going way too deep, even without all that history, people fuck with Future's shit right NOW, way more nowadays than during the actual time that you speak of when there were "gems". His strategy to get famous is the mumble we're hearing now so that's what certain people are messing with and that's what others aren't messing with.
Jimmy Rorie Future is trash, homie. He’s good for a hook, that’s it. He has 0 bars, a fucked up flow and isn’t even coherent half the time. No need to defend him.
I literally just noticed that when DJ Esco Moe is doing his audio watermark, you can hear Future saying "Wicked, wicked, wicked, wicked" underneath it, AND ENUNCIATING THE WORDS. Why couldn't you have done that on the actual chorus, Future?! Gaaaahh!
It's funny how people get labeled as haters or hip-hop elitist for wanting more from artist. Why is it so wrong to want the people you give your time and money to improve, or (dare I say) TRY to get better. You ain't gotta be Tupac, but damn it TRY.
I totally agree with you about producers putting their names as a watermark at the beginning of songs. I imagine that before too much longer, every single rap song will have a Star Wars style opening text crawl, but with the producer's names and brags about themselves instead.
It always makes me think of those watermarks in the middle of songs that gets put in as an anti-piracy measure. (Plus a lot of music videos already take a good 2 minutes to get to the songs these days)
I remember those back from the early days of p2p. Also I think producer tags can be done well, but only if it's subtle (such as Pharell's 4-beat countoff or Just Blaze's bong sounds) but as is they're very distracting
Funny enough, Future saying "wicked, wicked, wicked" (which I agree does not sound like what he's saying at all) did make me think of Patrick Star, just not the "WEE WOO WEE WOO"! No, it made me think of when the Flying Dutchman kept him, Spongebob, & Squidward as prisoners on his ship after they trespassed on it, FD was trying to teach them how to howl, and that famous clip of Pat going "leedle leedle leedle lee."
I kinda agree with the producer tags, but most mainstream songs don't put the "(prod. ____)". Nowadays a lot of rappers suck so much that the beat is the only good part. The producers are the best parts so i think they deserve most of the credit.
I disagree with the tags. Producers need way more credit than they have. It is unfair that they give life to the song and the main artist gets the whole attention.
David Brendli thats because these producers just make the same sounding beats and no one can telk the difference, if you listen to DJ Premier, he doesn't need to have a producer tag in like 100% of his beats, coz hes innovative and sounds original, thats what makes a producer different from every other producer
David Brendli I agree. Although it doesn't need to be obnoxious. Look at Skrillex. He doesn't out his tag in every song and when he does, it's just his name. It's short, and thrown in; like a watermark.
People are taking all of this way too seriously. It's just opinions. I like Future, but I thought this video was pretty funny and raised some criticisms that are definitely valid.
Oddly enough, I think it's because I don't blindly accept the level of talent from the mainstream music of my generation. Interestingly enough, the reason I don't is because I love my generation, and want it to be the better than the last, and the only way to do that is by having higher expectations of it.
lol that's the funniest part: vurtually EVERY RAPPER I've ever talked about so far for the last seven years is older than me. The only exception is Desiigner.
Didn't they give those away as a CD on the front of magazines back in the day? _Now that's what I call Trap Beats?_ Hell, if I ever get my copy of _Hip Hop Ejay_ working again I wouldn't be surprised if I reognise half the backing tracks from the Hip Hop Top 40.
dude you're the bomb! I really hope people will recognize your channel as the educated entertainment that puts its quality high above most other channels. the worst thing that I fear is that this channel will go unnoticed. please make more stuff!!!
That is a nice and healthy attitude. You enjoy what you enjoy but you are able to let people disagree with you or dislike what you like without getting upset. Good for you. I really wish more people could be this calm about disagreeing on the internet.
Shout out to the strippers in music videos! And not just the girls in bikinis that just stand there and look pretty, I mean women like this that look like they're trying to take pole dancing to Olympian heights. lol!
+Gregory Bogosian drake has ghost writers and rides on every popular wave but he's a huge star & most people don't have a problem with him. I don't think people care anymore.
Do you mean to say that future got where he is because of his superior vocal technique? Because that is complete bull shit. Good singers vary the pitch and volume of their voices to match the music and mood of the song. They also actually pronounce all of the syllables of the lyrics. Future doesn't do any of that stuff.
Yeah, but this song was the worst one to put that tag on, especially with two other guys already having their tag their. In fact, they KNEW it was obtrusive, because they cut it out of the music video version.
+Rap Critic ...I know that future isn't a good rapper. I know that in a world with people like pusha t, killer Mike, and Kendrick Lamar, someone like future is a disgrace to the artform... but... I have never heard a future project that I didn't really like and I have no idea why!! I'm sorry, rap critic! I have failed you!!
The producer that put their tag in track is the one that made the beat basically, everyone else edited and added the vocals, etc. I don't blame them for adding their tags because they are the ones that carry these mumble rap songs anyways...
The DJ Esko didn’t produce this record, this song was on a mixtape it’s not uncommon to hear the dj drops, I don’t mind real producer tags but the dj drops are a bit extra
Wow man, having your friends call you the coolest fucking dj on the planet. If I was cutting a record right now I'd try do some ironic take on this like saying "John Feldmann is a fucking douchebag!" at the start of the track.
I'd be interested to see you review some UK rap music, and explore the differences between it and it's US counterpart, especially how they essentially originated from completely different scenes and genres before them. I think that would be really interesting, especially as a fan of rap music from both sides of the atlantic.
The most fucking outraging thing to me about Future is that some record executive at some point realized that all of the original Dungeon Family members (who were some of the most creative artists in hip-hop during the late 90's and early 2000's) had left the label and the label retained the rights to the name, so they decided to announce that this horrible current generation of southern mumble rappers were now all in the Dungeon Family as a "Second Generation". NO! NO! Future IS NOT in the Dungeon Family. There is no more Dungeon Family.
Yeah, Outkast and Goodie Mob basically lost control of the "Dungeon Family" name. It is fairly common for a label to retain the rights of a super group formed from multiple members of groups on their and other company's labels. Glad I was able to help you out, though. It definitely sounds like you are as angry about this as I am!
word, the original dungeon family was dope. around the late 90s early 20s, Atlanta had some respectable emcees. that video with cool breeze was one of the best.
This trend kind of reminds me of that thing Todd in the Shadows once said (yes, I appreciate the irony): "Oh my god! That sounded like what people who hate pop music think all pop music sounds like!" It's like instead of trying to appeal to a wider audience they (the rap industry) just kinda waited for the lowest common denominator to get bigger.
Honestly when I see reviews that try to explain away Future’s sound, it reminds me of my AP Lit teacher far over-analyzing books and poems, suggesting that details that probably wound up there by accident or just for embellishment actually have a deep meaning to them.
It was really fun to see a person outside of my generation's actual reaction to this new wave of nonsensical-but-fun turn-up/lit trap (as i call it) music. I'm a fan of his music for what it represents (living for the moment, partying, excess, etc.) and have been since his FreeBandGang era. But seriously, bless your heart if you listen to this AND ONLY THIS type of music all the time. Dissecting Future and other similar artists music too deeply is like a food critic reviewing at a McDonald's or Hardee's or something.
If it weren't for the lazy lyrics, and Future's inability to enunciate, this song could have had potential. I like the quiet, dramatic beat, along with the dark, ominous atmosphere of the vid. Also, dunno what the lady in the vid is doing with her butt, but that's pretty cool. Twerking as art, anyone?
No, twerking is barely dance it's definitely not art. What I want to know is what the hell is she doing to that grapefruit? Why is she rubbing two grapefruit into her breasts like she's trying to permanently screw them on?
Blissful Insomniac Just because something takes practice to get right that doesn't make it art. Rebuilding an engine takes a lot of effort and know how but that doesn't make the act of it art.
+Pera Medina It's not about practice. Some could practice twerking again and again and not learn it. I never said anything about practice. It can be art and beautiful just like any other dance.
I really liked his first two albums, because they somehow had an own style and personality. Especially HONEST, which was more R'n'B focused. But I really, really hate his new stuff.
please explain to me what a trap artist is because that's just another excuse to say some bullshit and not rhymes your or make sense at all when u rap he fucken sucks period
He's about as much as a rapper as those 1990s Eurodance rappers are. But at least the Eurodance rappers have some slightly clever lyrics and you can understand them clearly!
This song kind of grew on me. At least it's actually got a dark/unsettling atmosphere instead of a emotionless one like every single Lil Baby and Gunna song
I love the thing you said about singing. When I think about it, I always think back to Eminem. He never autotuned, and he sang like shit. He straight up admits he can't sing, sometimes IN THE SONG HE'S SINGING IN! But he did it anyways, cause he's real like that.
Don't disrespect Anderson Paak like that. His verse was wack, but then he admitted that he didn't like the beat and he probably thought that if the producer didn't take his time to make a good beat, he shouldn't take his time to write a good verse. If you hear his album Malibu (which I would definitely check out), you would see that the difference between his actual music and that XXL verse is like night and day.
