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The boy in the video is Dylan, Stephanie Seymour's son (the woman Axl was dating in real life that's in Don't Cry and November Rain). In an interview about the song Estranged, Axl mentions how much he missed Dylan after the breakup because his mother didn't allow Axl to see him anymore. Even though Dylan wasn't Axl's son, Axl became attached to him as if he were. Estranged is about being separated from someone he loved (Dylan) and can't see anymore.
@PML78 I think it's some of his best work. He nailed the turmoil of the character. Always thought it would be a great song for someone to make a sharp video.
Coma was supposed to be the 4th video, but the record label didn't want to pay for another million dollar music video. Coma is the best song on the 2 albums in my opinion.
Axl grew up a hour north of me in Lafayette Indiana. He had a nightmare childhood, abusive father, non caring mother. He was in trouble with Lafayette police all the time. Police finally told him to get out of town. He of course headed West, and the rest is history. I grew up in a neighborhood just like his, but had better parents.❤
Yes. He grew up on the wrong side of the town, Rundown. No opportunities. literally across the railroad tracks from the well-to-do kids at Purdue university.
W. Axl Rose's real-life story was truly horrific... Born William Bailey in Indiana (where Michael Jackson was also born), he was raised in a quasi-religious broken family by his mom and stepdad who were devotees of the church and televangelist Jimmy Swaggert (who was later busted w/ prostitutes) He claimed that his stepdad sexually abused his sister and physically abused him as children (Axl himself was apparently sexually assaulted by his absentee biological father as a minor) They were subject to physical punishments that were cruel and unusual for children of their age. When he was a teenager, he discovered that he was born William Rose... his biological father was murdered around 1984. Axl changed his name to William Rose out of spite against his stepdad; he officially later changed it legally to W. Axl Rose (W.A.R. by coincidence) As a child, Axl sang in the church choir and was gifted w/ a voice and a high intellect, as well as creativity... but he also showed signs of psychosis, more than likely a result of the stream of abuse he was subjected to... When he was a teen, he was out of control - busted by cops repeatedly for assaults and public intoxication... Lafayette police deemed him a 'habitual offender' and his parents apparently kicked him out of the house, accusing him of taking drugs. In school, Axl sang in a band w/ Jeff Isbell, a guitarist who went by the name Izzy Stradlin... Izzy also came from a broken home and was raised under strict religious and abusive circumstances. In the early 80's, Izzy left Indiana for Los Angeles to become a rock star in the L.A. scene... Axl decided to follow in Izzy's footsteps and head for L.A. as well but apparently, it took him a month to locate where Izzy was staying. The 2 joined a local band Hollywood Rose... Axl was clearly the star of the band and could sing live... Friends who saw Hollywood Rose noticed that Axl would stomp around the stage like a child throwing a tantrum - it was apparent to all that he had a difficult childhood. Slash (lead guitar) was introduced to Axl and briefly joined Hollywood Rose. After Hollywood Rose broke up, Axl and Izzy joined another local band L.A. Guns featuring Tracii Guns (lead guitar)... and they decided to change the name to Guns N' Roses in 1985 (Tracii was the 'Guns'... and Axl was the 'Roses') ... However, Axl fired Tracii Guns around 1986 and hired Slash on lead guitar... Slash also brought his friend Steven Adler (drums) into the band... Duff McKagan (bass) rounded out the original Guns N' Roses line-up. Meanwhile, Tracii Guns reformed L.A. Guns and became successful in the 80's and early 90's w/ British vocalist Phil Lewis and scoring hit singles like - 'The Ballad of Jayne' ... 'Electric Gypsy' ... 'Rip and tear' ... 'Over the edge' 🔥🔥 After a string of line-up changes and shake ups, Tracii Guns and Phil Lewis are currently recording and touring as L.A. Guns.
The one you would absolutely love is Civil War by GnR Here is what I got from this video They were my favorite band growing up..Axl has manic depression..the illusion is that he was on top of the world but struggled to not off himself. It destroys his relationships. He was on top of the world but felt alone.
"The dolphins was to assimilate a state of peace or state of grace. It was not originally intended, but in the next scene I will be drowned and go to heaven, and I really didn't want to shoot a heaven scene," Rose said
@@Wrangzilla probably because of the charles manson shirt. i commented that mtv would air a disclaimer before the video and the anchor would issue an apology after the video.
For those that don't know what this artistic trilogy means, let me try my best to explain (read until the end): Don't Cry, November Rain & Estranged are part of an intentional trilogy of music produced by GnR. They are based on a short story called "Without You" by Del James (which also has loose ties to Axl's own real life). At the very end of Estranged, the lyrics "Without You" are actually specifically mentioned. These songs are meant to be taken in that specific context. They have the same director for the videos and have musical tie ins such as drum fill ins and certain chord progression culminations. Summary: Don't Cry talks about the problems in their relationship (and others in the band). Think of it as starting like Star Wars Episode IV A New Hope... Lucas started in the middle of the story instead of with Episode 1. November Rain moves back in time and shows the wedding which takes place before Don't Cry. Then it flashed forward and shows his wife's death. So this is akin to the Star Wars Prequels and then flashes forward to the beginning of last Star Wars trilogy. Estranged is how he deals with all of the emotions. Either you let life bring you down and succumb to the sorrow or you fight back and take control of your own life. This would be akin Star Wars Episode 9. It's a masterpiece and Axl is a musical genius. Axl has a higher octave range than virtually every singer you've ever heard of from Mariah Carey to Freddie Mercury. Super talented individual. Cheers!
the book Without you is about The story revolves around 80's rock star guitar player Mayne Mann (yeah, I know, but that's how it was with those 80's glam rock types), who's been slowly self-destructing through drugs and alcohol after his band broke up. He shits money, so he can drink and drug himself to sleep every day, except he's not doing it because he's a depraved rock star. He's got emotions, see? Turns out his girlfriend caught him cheating on her after his band's last show and she sent him packing, and no matter hoelw much he tried to win her back, she just was having none of it. So he wrote her a song called "Without You" that became his biggest solo hit and he tried to win her back by offering her royalties from it when the song didn't work by itself. But no. She declined half of the royalties along with his overtures and, finally, after some time, he couldn't take it anymore and went to her place to try and talk to her but found her with the song playing on repeat and having shot herself in the head. So now he blames himself for cheating and for having his greatest hit be about this situation, and for her death, and for not being able to play anymore without thinking about his whole mess. So he drinks, does drugs, destroys his apartment, destroys his car, throw his money out of the balcony and into the street, destroys most of his guitar collection except his '57 Les Paul Sunburst, lights his place on fire, and finally dies in the resulting inferno while performing "Without You" for her one last time.
We actually had a television station dedicated to playing music videos. Perhaps you'll recall MTV complete with VJs. Today, MTV plays everything but music!
I've been a metal vocalist for a few decades and when Iwas growing up, these albums were like the holy grail to me. The music is like this heavy blues rock sound and the vocals were harsh and could be very aggressive but melodic I've got a higher vocal register so I could hit every single one of these notes, harmonies, everything. I listened to them everyday and I knew that this was what I wanted to do. Ended up doing band logos, photography and cover art but, I have all these amazing memories... and I can still hit all these notes. Music moves me. Always has.
The little boy is his girl's son. I think her name was Stephanie, could be wrong. Anyway, the little boy, Dillon was her son. He and Axl were very close, so when she left him, of course taking Dillon away, he was devastated. This song is mostly about that. Taking Dillon out of Axl's life crushed him. He spiraled into a really deep depression. He finally talked to Slash about it, and Slash actually wrote most of this song. He even learned some new guitar techniques just for this song. In my opinion, this song is their best guitar and piano work ever.
LIFETIME FAN of GNR since they first came out in the 80's. He wrote this song from how he felt after his divorce with Erin Everly. He never got over her or remarried since then. She is still tattooed on his arm til this day. The def of this song is about loss of your soulmate it is a tragedy loss that can lead you to feel hopeless that makes you feel estranged. Then when Slash guitar riffs gets stronger and higher it's when you mend to heal from loss to see the light. He shows that you can build yourself out of that state to not give up and to see the beauty in life. To not allow anyone to bring you down from loss.. This song is another on of his Masterpiece! (The dolphins represent the beauty and quality of life and to live your life the fullest that you are worthy) Slash is my fav guitarist..Been to many concerts ..they were awesome in concert in the 80s thru 90s!!
This was actually a first listen for me! Been listening to Don't Cry and November Rain since I was like 10, and never knew it was a trilogy until u reacted to them! Teaching me some shit! 😆🫣 I don't take many L's when it comes to music, but I guess there's a first time for everything! 🤣🤷♀️
I think this is one of those songs that hit you emotionally no matter what kind of turmoil your life is in and you don't even necessarily need to know the artist's take on the song...by far my favorite GnR song...epic
From a Far Out article: "To this day, Guns N’ Roses’ ‘Estranged’ remains one of the biggest productions in MTV history, costing $5million to create. When adjusted for inflation, that’s the equivalent of $10million going into one single for the album."
I went to guns and roses concert in 1992 it was this use your illusion 1 and 2 this was a great concert I went to Woodstock 94, Def Leppard, Aerosmith, Ac/DC and many more all of them were fantastic
I feel like the bride dying in November Rain was metaphorically about the relationship ending. In Don't Cry, his old self dies as he falls in love. He gets married and then the marriage suddenly ends. In Estranged he goes nuts after his wife leaves him. He has to work through his issues until he finds peace within himself. That's my interpretation.
When I moved to LA in the early 90's the Sunset Strip rock scene was still alive with the Rainbow Bar and Grill, The Roxy, The Whisky a Go Go... all heading into the twilight of their heyday of mayhem and debauchery. I was glad to have had some rowdy nights in my 20's at those spots. They're all still there but I can't imagine it's even close to the same.
His docu series November Rain talks about a divorce. But the running joke was who wrote Don’t Cry. Originally they had Don’t Cry by the 1st album but it was not included cause Axl would change things in middle of a set. But he heard one of the band members sing a part of a lyric and said that’s what the song was missing . I think he was going through a divorce when that was written.
GNR had a lot of deep lyrics, one of the best bands ever at the time. For me they were always better live. Check out "Civil War" live in Paris and the live Tokyo concert, it was just amazing. They had amazing backup singers and songs like "November Rain" or Rocket Queen and also Don't Cry were just amazing live. Also great was "Knockin on Heavens Door" live at Freddy Mercury tribute concert
The message of the “Trilogy” to me is the facets of love. Nurturing and enamorment, loss and devastation, acceptance and remittal. Scoreboard’s don’t lie. I’ll never find anyone to replace you…
"Don't cry" was filmed in 1991 when Guns N' Roses singer Axl Rose was dating supermodel Stephanie Seymour, who appeared in the music video... I believe the storyline was inspired by Axl's volatile relationship w/ model Erin Everly (who was the inspiration of "Sweet child O' mine") whom Axl married briefly... they split permanently in 1990 and Axl asked for an annulment. In the music video, it shows Axl dying and his girlfriend grieving... 'November Rain' was inspired by a story by a writer friend of theirs - Del James... It depicted Axl and Stephanie getting married (They were engaged in real life) and their wedding reception is interrupted by November rain... A year later, it's his wife who dies (apparently by su.ic.ide) and Axl is left grieving as November rain comes down on her funeral. It was a massive budget and filmed in 1992. 'Estranged' was actually written by Axl about his split w/ Erin Everly... By the time the music video was filmed in 1993, Axl and Stephanie Seymour had called off their engagement and split up (Both Erin Everly and Stephanie Seymour sued Axl Rose for abuse, and he had to pay them million$ in damages) So, the music video focused on Axl's character after losing his wife... clearly struggling to live after his loss... It was another mega-budget music video which included an aircraft carrier and dolphins! Footage from the concert was filmed in the Guns N' Roses/ Metallica stadium tour in 1992 (Looks like Seattle)
Yes, that was Charles Manson on the front of his shirt. Did you notice the "quote" on the back? "Charlie Don't Surf".... that's a line from "Apocalypse Now", referencing the North Vietnamese (who were referred to as "Charlie", and yes, it IS a somewhat racist term), and a fetish of an American soldier who loved surfing... but noted that "Charlie Don't Surf", meaning that the North Vietnamese don't partake of that activity, despite having "good waves to surf". A rather interesting dichotomy, if you really think about it. Oh, and since you (kinda) asked the question.... Yes, I *DID* go to those concerts. I saw GnR with Metallica at RFK Stadium back in 1992. That show..... was.... INSANE!!! I still have my ticket for that show! I went with about a dozen friends, and we were in the parking lot "getting elevated" while Faith No More was on stage. But we could clearly hear them. We knew that when they played "Epic", it was time to finish our beverages (and whatever else we were partaking in) and mosey on inside. Metallica hit the stage next, and played as the sun was setting.... incredible effect, I might add. GnR took their time getting to the stage, but they finally did (2 hours after Metallica had finished)... and because it was early in the tour, there wasn't an "Axl Incident" (Google that, if you need to) and they put on a great show. All in all, it was a VERY memorable experience for all the right reasons! Unlike what would happen later in the same tour..... (yeah, look that up.... it got NUTS!) I hate to say this, but you younger people missed out. I was in at least 5 Mosh Pits, and was even put up into "crowd surfing" at that show. Given all of the intoxicants I imbibed, I'm shocked I remember as much of it as I do.
I’m from Mexico living in the great California ,, yoo!! You’re reaction and review it’s epic and great , I mean it . For real. Reviewing the hole video, ,,,great band, epic song 🎶😎🙏✌️🤟
This is a trilogy only in the sense that they are all related stories about the way that love can turn out, tragedy, death and divorce (from Axl's point of view). I don't think they are supposed to be a follow on from each other. Estranged means a huge amount to me. Metaphorically I see it as a life going well, with music and concerts, followed by a significant change and the end of a dream of having children (when the children are playing outside in the heaven-like setting), notice they are all ignored, because they don't really exist yet, they are just future possibles that never happened. Following that and the split, it moves into the second section, where the inevitable 'lets go and drink our way out of this' bit happens, when this doesn't solve the problem Axl takes the ultimate way out and tries to end it all by jumping into the sea. Friends try to help rescue him and reach out to him (literally from the boat that's being rowed) but he seems to be drowning and literally going under. Do the dolphins (metaphorical good thoughts) save him, or does he drown? I think thats left to you to decide.
Use Your Illusion 1 & 2 was a concept double album and a departure from style of harder rock that they had been known for up to this point. They wanted to take a turn in the direction and incorporated a brass and piano. Use Your Illusion 1 was a deeper dive into a darker, but softer style. Use Your Illusion 2 was a heavier side with the most popular song being from the movie TERMINATOR 2 - "You Could Be Mine". This album really strained the bands relationship. They were the last albums made by the band besides an album called THE SPAGHETTI INCIDENT, which is mostly covers so not a true album. I read that the combined cost for the trilogy of videos was over $7 million and more than half was on the "Estranged" video.
The way it's connecting is Don't Cry is the relationship before the marriage, the ups and downs & how it makes him crazy. November Rain is getting married & a sudden death & the grief behind that. Estranged is about him trying to move on, she's dead and has tried to get on with his life but can't do it anymore and is often thinking about suicide. The Dolphins represent her spirit keeping him alive, being there to remind him of her & to stay strong.
Another tidbit to throw at you Guns n Roses was a name derived from the fact Axel Rose was in the band LA Guns and Hollywood Rose. Axel Rose & Traci Guns decided to combine the names to form the band but soon after Traci decided to leave & Axel kept the name.
yeah, that is charles manson on his shirt. mtv would air a disclaimer before the video and the anchor would issue a verbal apology at the end, saying the network was not affiliated in any way.
Never listened to this particular song a lot, but I know a lot of them in detail. Great band... His range is unreal. Listen to Chinese Democracy, or Civil War, for a different perspective of his range and song writing ability. Sweet child of Mine, and Welcome to the Jungle are the first and greats. Patience, for a slowed down acoustic guitar song. Beautiful... Mr Brownstone is crazy good.. Talking about drug addiction
Yeah; this video clip is one of the most expensive music videos ever made, still to this day.. The video is said to have cost $4 million; but it's rumoured that it's closer to $10 million. Think Estranged is the biggest masterpiece of GnR.
The little boy was the son of his girlfriend Stephanie (Who is in Don't Cry and November Rain vids) Axl was really attached to him, but when they split he was made to cut all contact. There's a video of him saying that the video was a way to reach Dylan. Edit to add they broke up before this video was filmed and Axl said no more women so Dolphins
the trigaly cost $7 million, more than half of which was for “Estranged” alone. if you adjust for inflation that’s roughly $12.6 million - Quentin Tarantino’s Pulp Fiction, which came out a year after “Estranged,” was made for $8.5 million
So it’s really cool that you’re checking out music from the past and I’m glad you like it but there is one thing that you’ll never experience. It was a different time back then when this music came out, it was a totally different vibe especially from the rap music that you grew up with, what does music me to you and what it means to be as two entirely different feelings hard to explain but it’s pretty cool that you’re checking stuff out like this and you can still appreciate the music for what it is
Heres a fact alot of people dont talk about or probably even know. Right around the time Eazy E got sick, Axl and N.W.A were supposed to be working on a collab. Damn that would've been fire!!!
I just went to a party last weekend (Memorial Day) with Gilby Clarke & Matt Sorum (GNR) jamming cover tunes out by the pool with James LoMenzo (Megadeth) & Robin Zander (Cheap Trick), among others. They’re all 60+ (Robin 70+) & still absolutely NAILING IT!!! 🤘🏼 🔻 🔻 🔻 (Video over on my channel ✌🏼😘❤️)
Speaking to the gangster names of band members. Lesser known fact, Duff Beer from The Simpsons was named after Duff McKagan, because Axel always introduced him as "The King of Beers" in their earliest years playing.
This is the first time I saw/heard Estranged, and I do like it. But it just doesn't quite live up to November Rain for me, which continues to be my favorite GNR song and video. Thanks for doing this one. I was going to check it out on my own, got distracted and totally forgot.
Back in 93 when the music was created by sheer talent & was a significant part of the art ps Slash jumped out the car no hate 100% respect just saying I love the video more than the song it was impressive back in 93
“When you’re talking to yourself, but nobody’s home…” To me, this means you know there’s shit you need to be doing it but you’re not doing it. Nobody’s home. You know you need to quit drinking, but you’re still boozing. You know you need to be eating healthy and working out….. but “nobody’s home….”
This was the most expensive video ever made at that time it cost around 4 million to produce my favorite gunners song with used to love her a close second. Remember they were the biggest band in the world at this time and were packing stadiums worldwide. Slash no smoke in his mouth when pops out the water
Read the short story without you. She committed suicide that's how she died in November rain. Axl and Stephanie broke up before estranged came out so the dolphins replaced her. Also in the story he does after his place caught on fire while he was playing the song he wrote for her "without you".
Don't cry was something he said to a women he dated for a while but the same women dated Izzy (band member) before him. The relationship didn't work (November rain) and estranged is about being reborn and starting again.
They were known for the highest level production videos renting oceanliners hiring us coastguard etc in high def back in the 90s when Dolby was still working on it
What a treat. One of my favourite GnR tracks ever. Probably because I so empathise with the lyrics. And I'm not crazy. Or most of my family is. Loners talk to themselves. Fact. It's introspection, refection and meditation rolled into one. .Lol, that little thing on Manson's forehead. So popular everywhere these days. PS: this song still leaves me in tears. Always.
The video begins with an empty swing set. Like a child has been taken. It then fast forwards to darkness with his house being raided by swat teams and black helicopters. He has retreated and is in hiding above the closet. When Axl wrote these albums, he was under so much pressure and stress from the powers that put the band on the top of the mountain, that he retreated for an extended amount of time to a cabin in the woods to write many of the use your illusion I and II songs. Sort of a Dave Chappell type retreat. The king lizard, dinosaur, was there for a reason. You then see a swinging tire that allows you to see and reflect on how huge they had become. The giant arenas, the girls, the lifestyle, etc. Everything he thought he wanted, but at what cost? Then it returns to his house. Everything is full of sunshine and dressed in white. He is packed up and almost being escorted out. Walking by a statue of Jesus being crucified with a shirt that says Deep on it. Jesus was taken to the mountaintop by Satan and tempted. After being on the mountaintop, Jesus refused what Satan was offering and then crucified by leaders of the world. He is being lead away and suddenly laying on a couch as if in a psychiatrist office. But his spirit gets up and is being cleansed as it walks into the water/shower to rinse itself off. It then reflects to their roots at the rainbow grill with people walking all around but slash is just sliding along with the aid of a moving sidewalk to take them where they want to go. Almost effortless. Cut to the tanker in the ocean. The tanker is named Judith Prosperity. You can research the significance of this in the Bible, but Judith stood up against those that challenged God. So he is now been labeled as a crazy lunatic. Thus the Charles Manson shirt. He jumps ship and refuses their efforts to save him. I think the rest of the video with the dolphins has been explained pretty well already about the spiritual significance.
Released in December 1993, the official music video (directed by Andy Morahan) is the third part of an unofficial Del James series of videos (preceded by "Don't Cry" and "November Rain") from the Use Your Illusion I and Use Your Illusion II albums. The estimated budget was $4 million.
i always talk to myself even if there is someone home. if you see me arguing with myself I'm having a meeting with me, myself and I. we often get together
