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Rare 1970's Sled Sat 40 Years After Losing Spark

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I buy a 1972 Trail King snowmobile that has been sitting 40 years. Can we get this sled to run and drive? #Rare, #Vintage, #340cc,
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@davessparetime83 8 месяцев назад

The chaincase cover where the bulge sticks out is where the tensioner was. Models came in Sachs Engine was standard 15HP $695, LLoyd Engine Delux 22HP $895 and Kohler Engine 399 Super 24 HP $1095. Sold in Woolco (Woolworth) Department Stores. So you have the middle model with 22 HP LLoyd engine. Use a steering wheel puller to take the lower sprocket off.

@mjl1132 8 месяцев назад

That looks like a Tillotson carburettor, parts and gasket kits still readily available 👍👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@patmiller7045 8 месяцев назад

They have the windshield on Amazon 😅

@ronsears8692 8 месяцев назад

finger nail file to clean up those points bud. works great. I use to do it all the time!

@sevenskulls1 8 месяцев назад

You don’t need a puller for that. If you remove the grub/set screw, you can insert a couple of bolts into the two threaded holes and that will push back on the sprocket to remove it. I do this at work all the time. Hope this helps!!!

@2vintage 8 месяцев назад

I will try it, thanks!

@bardsolo 8 месяцев назад

For the editing job you do on your videos alone, you deserve more subs. Your content are the gifts that keep on giving. If you do all the editing on your own, hats off to you. Love your content, keep it coming. All the best to you and yours this Christmas season!

@Old_Indian_Trick 8 месяцев назад

Vice Grip Garage made a windshield for an older snowmobile and it came out pretty nice. I think he made it out of some blue Plexi-glass. You could take a look at what he did and probably do something similar.

@kevinalbers1084 8 месяцев назад

Unless I missed it, that machine was built in Quebec by Sno-Prince later owned by Lionel. They built several different brands but were basically a Sno Prince with different decals and minor detail differences. As for the chain tensioner, some older snowmobiles had an eccentric upper chaincase bearing. Check there too. And most snowmobile aftermarket parts suppliers have windshield material you can cut easily to make a new one.

@connorsvintageelectronics909 5 месяцев назад

I have a sno prince and i can see tons of similarities between them because they were both made by that lionel company

@william6526 8 месяцев назад

Yes there's suppose to be a tensioner where you pointed to. Some had a wheeled tensioner and some just had a curved slide tensioner. When the Bearing went out the chain slop most likely destroyed the tensioner.

@angrysweet8932 8 месяцев назад

Joe, I am pretty sure you can make a new and better windshield with a piece of unbreakable polycarbonate sheet like Lexan, that can be shaped with a hot air gun. Hope this tip makes you feel less sad.

@bobbleboydk 8 месяцев назад

Vinny knew, he could smell the burnt bearing.

@jeffkulessa9398 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for your consistant videos! I hope you read this in time because you tightened down the upper sprocket with the an impact gun. THERE ARE TAPERED ROLLER BEARINGS THERE. Adjust the castle nut as you would a wheel bearing! Another disaster awaits if you don't.

@haweater1555 8 месяцев назад

Haven't heard of that brand. Back in the early 70s, there were about 120 different brands of sleds. By 1987, they were down to four, and next year one of these is also ending.

@bbroken1 8 месяцев назад

Yeah, it sucks Yamaha is stopping it's sleds in 2025

@bryanrulz3904 8 месяцев назад

Love your stuff as always! Looking forward to see how this one turns out. Hope things are well in your world brother.

@gavinoliver8074 8 месяцев назад

You never cease to amaze me getting things running.

@leewaken5059 8 месяцев назад

Honestly Joe, how can you NOT clean the exposed body of the carburetor? Unfortunate about the wind screen.😢

@stevenbrooks1243 8 месяцев назад

Sucks about the windshield but if it didn't break on the highway it would have on your first test ride

@NubsWithGuns 8 месяцев назад

Maybe but the original added to the machine in a way that an aftermarket one from China isn't going to bring back. That was his point being annoyed for breaking it.

@OSXMan 8 месяцев назад

The plastic of the windscreen was petrified. It was going to shatter soon, no matter what you did. You can take the dimensions and look for a replacement. Don't let it bother you.

@186scott 8 месяцев назад

I was thinking the same thing but as for finding a replacement it would be better off taking the dimensions and going to a place that can form the plastic to make a brand new one

@OSXMan 8 месяцев назад

@@186scott He can do it himself. There's quite a lot of info online. He's a clever guy, I'm sure he'll get it sorted.

@bananabrooks3836 8 месяцев назад

Not sure l believe that it broke because it was 'on the highway' More like a mishandled loading.

@186scott 8 месяцев назад

@@bananabrooks3836 i believe it chances are it wasn't the wind from how fast he was going but more likely something flicked up hit it and it broke

@bananabrooks3836 8 месяцев назад

@@186scott Fair comment.

@robertwhitey6621 8 месяцев назад

Nice seeing some of the old sleds I grew up with, here in Michigan we had a blast with those old sleds as a young kid it felt like we were going 100 mph but we were only doing 35-40mph.

@Bill-xc8le 7 месяцев назад

Lol, I'm from Michigan as well!!

@greathornedowl3644 8 месяцев назад

Great project on a classic, and good timing as there is a chill in the air (Minnesota) and a winter storm is brewing for this weekend.

@michaelmitchell5909 8 месяцев назад

Definitely a cool piece. Love the channel Joe., never know what your coming home with!

@patrickmurray4405 8 месяцев назад

Love the level of skill and knowledge you show in your videos. Just one thing, the sandpaper you use to clean grounds and points is called Emery Cloth. Used for metal…

@quaddoc7215 8 месяцев назад

Im ready to see you build a mini bike. There's some vids out there but nobody would do it better than you. I bought one for $200 a few weeks ago and it's a blast

@bigbullhorn8443 8 месяцев назад

I really appreciate this video Brother👊🏻!!! I needed this. I’ve Been home since Wednesday lastweek cause I had to put my BFF Pug down Thurs and then got crazy sick from digging the hole for 4hrs in the cold and rain. I freaking miss my boy.

@nigelcox7477 8 месяцев назад

I’m so sorry for your loss… Joe & Vinnie certainly bring some joy, don’t they?!

@bigbullhorn8443 8 месяцев назад

@@nigelcox7477 Thank u. Ya Vinny is a Gem forsure.

@user-fi3fx5my2s 8 месяцев назад

Can't believe how much compression it has, crazy!!! Beast!

@nathanalexander9490 6 месяцев назад

Yeah 175 is wild

@michaelfowler8289 8 месяцев назад

I love it that thing has a perfect face on it kind of reminds me of a rupp in their early ones actually had cooling bar which was the front bar on them and it got hot and you can warm your hands😊 one of the very early liquid cooled snowmobiles

@Motoxr32 8 месяцев назад

Be sure to remove the broken wind screen before you ride it! Major safety concern! Maybe take it to a lexan mold shop and have a custom one made if you cannot find an oem one. 🤷🏻‍♂️😎

@allan9603 8 месяцев назад

There is actually a kit that molds plexiglass perfectly. Joe has the most important part of the windshield, and with his skills, Joe can reproduce the windshield himself.

@allan9603 8 месяцев назад

Time for Jade' s toothbrush and nail file😂😅😊

@ravioli9728 8 месяцев назад

@@allan9603yea Right

@allan9603 8 месяцев назад

@@ravioli9728, OK run outside and play now..

@ravioli9728 8 месяцев назад

@@allan9603 ok time for you to go suck up to joe

@Jdwescott 8 месяцев назад

Joe you can buy a universal windshield kit and cut it to your own shape,just reference that brochure you got with it for approximate shape and height. I've been out of it for a few years but companies like Dennis Kirk,shade tree sell them.

@b62boom1 8 месяцев назад

Class! What a sweet machine, it's got a friendly face if you know what I mean. I absolutely love your content dude, it takes me back to days of smelling of petrol, burnt 2 stroke oil, and hands that were impossible to get clean! You've inspired me to dust off my tools and start looking for a project. I'm sure you've inspired others. Keep up the great work brother.

@user-dj8uv8re4m 8 месяцев назад

You are correct there is a chain tensioner missing. One off an old Arctic Cat Lynx will work if you drill out the guide rivets and turn the arch the other way. I hope that helps you

@NavigatorHomeInspections 8 месяцев назад

Reminds me of the 1960s Moto Ski my dad bought for me to ride when I was a kid. I broke the windshield riding around a trail barrier. Got grounded from riding for a week!

@Galaxiiee02 8 месяцев назад

That old manual is super cool

@thebigguy8306 8 месяцев назад

Wow, what a classic, great project

@chrislatorre3875 8 месяцев назад

Another awesome video. Pro tip, use a small finger nail file ( the tiny foam type) to sand the points. Always carried one in my tool box for my VS sandrail.

@cahallc 8 месяцев назад

The super cheap thin ones at the dollar store work great!

@jakeslouw3416 8 месяцев назад

We used to keep a small piece of fine sandpaper in our toolbags when we still had vehicles with points. Fold it in half and slide it into the points gap. The biggest issue we had was bad quality condensors.

@GoinDownhill361 8 месяцев назад

That title defines my life: "sat 40 years after losing his spark" 😂

@kodibox2501 8 месяцев назад

If the bearing housing cant be fixed I would either make a weld or bolt in part , it will be stronger than trying to weld the bearing housing back together and machine it as it is cast aluminium so prone to breaking again. The engine sounds great just needs a diaphragm /gasget kit for the carb and it should run spot on. Another great find and rescue 👍

@haweater1555 8 месяцев назад

You should be able to find a similar windshield from another make that can be cut to fit the metal trim. They newer plastic is a lot less brittle and can be bent to fit the trim.

@Jimsalos 8 месяцев назад

For $400 I still think you did well, I'm sure you will get it working great. Thanks for the videos!

@caleblarson8908 8 месяцев назад

Glad to see you're starting to get more sleds I got some four sale if you want to come to up Michigan

@mikebridge7915 8 месяцев назад

Your channel is my favorite to watch on youtube! You should be able to find the right flexible plexiglass and make your own windshield.

@James-sir 8 месяцев назад

Might have to upgrade to a enclosed trailer. Beautiful sled still.

@ricksspeedshop482 8 месяцев назад

Very nice video. Thanks for sharing.

@Dono743670777 8 месяцев назад

Hey man, you should pick up a couple cans of fogging spray for outboard engines. It's excellent for engines that have been sitting a long time and the best part is the end of the tube it fogs in all directions so everything gets lubricated.

@minskmade 8 месяцев назад

definitely could make a new wind scree...bend it with a heat gun...just follow the shape of the trim mold...nice score...great channel...learned a ton from you.

@GroundGravel 8 месяцев назад

Man are you busy all the time bro! I keep seeing your uploads! I know we would make great best friends with all the wrenching you do!!! 😂 Keep up the good work!!!

@tylerlee7398 8 месяцев назад

Love the channel and would love to see some Artic Cats on here maybe 90s to early 2000s they absolutely rip there cheap sleds easy to work on and would make great content.

@stevenmatsoukas7905 8 месяцев назад

Vinnie has good dog sense, he is a master.

@nigelcox7477 8 месяцев назад

Such a great pitch to the sound of that engine plus the face of the machine… reminds me of the Crazy Frog!!

@petepeabody8905 8 месяцев назад

This should be interesting. I pray all your knowledge and effort pays off. It would be a terrific ride once completed. Finding parts might be tough. I believe your time will be rewarded with success..

@knockknockwhosthere8055 8 месяцев назад

Did you know when ski mobiles were first invented it was not for pleasure or fun. Customizing an glorify that relic. And you have that Big field. I think we would like to see. What can take you from a to b the fastest. It would make it more fun for me to watch at the end of your videos. Keep up the good work. We like them all..

@AZVIDS 8 месяцев назад

Man you are really good at finding out what is wrong with things. Im sure you will get it going soon👍

@matthewpower3062 8 месяцев назад

You sir are a MACHINE, please tell me you have help with editing, pumping out so many videos, seems like more than 1 a week.... LOVE THIS CHANNEL!

@thebigguy8306 8 месяцев назад

Ditto, I like the explanatory nature, and the focus not on him but on the project. At its core, the basics, going through a 120cc engine (spark, fuel, compression) not unlike going through a 350ci or 472ci

@yeahright302 8 месяцев назад

hes making a living doing it,so he has to get them out!!!did you see the house he bought?more payments means more videos!!!2,3,4 a week he needs to do

@thebigguy8306 8 месяцев назад

@@yeahright302 More videos, more subs, more views, more RU-vid $$$

@wrail5205 8 месяцев назад

Lexan for the windshield and white strip , paint the white on the back side of the strip . I did that on my 70 Snowcruiser , It came out minty .

@morseoneuk 8 месяцев назад

Great content, as usual. never give up!

@gjkeller45 8 месяцев назад

Oh man! An old Bolens Diablo Rouge sitting in the background

@keithmishler4095 6 месяцев назад

I had mentioned in another video of yours about making your own windshield out of plexiglass. I had no previous experience working with plexiglass but found it quite easy to work with using a heat gun and torch you might you tube it im sure someone has a tutorial on plexi.

@thermos750 8 месяцев назад

Nice work getting the old beast going! Next time when a chain has been sitting for a long time, soak it in a jug of oil overnight. It will loosen the chain up and help with stretching.

@James-sir 8 месяцев назад

An enclosed trailer would be a good upgrade especially for your winters.

@joelatkinson2080 8 месяцев назад

Another great video!!!

@AJvsEverything 8 месяцев назад

You can contact Koronis Parts in Paynesville, MN and I'm almost certain that they'd still make a windshield for you...they've been making replacement parts for vintage sleds since they were new and still have all of the dies and forms for them...if they can't help, then just get a windshield from a similar year Herters Husky, as they look like nearly identical body/windshield shapes...

@Liesthroughisteeth 8 месяцев назад

Wouldn't be hard to make another windscreen. This looks like something out of the 60s. I mean I had my first snowmobile ride in 66 in northern Canada and there were machines more modern looking and more sophisticated than this. Mid 60s OMC Snow Cruisers and Evinrude's come to mind. Pretty damned nice shape though. :)

@ragnarironspear1791 8 месяцев назад

Cool bit of history

@tomdombrovski432 8 месяцев назад

Another Awesome video and great content

@jamesbryant7355 8 месяцев назад

The puller i belive is a thick peace of steel with center threaded hole and two sloted holes on either side to put bolts into the sproket then thw center bolt has a little point on it to line up on the shaft

@jayaustin3096 8 месяцев назад

You are lucky. You have a very supportive fan base that is very informative. Try a finger nail board for cleaning points. They work great. Jade has some im su re.

@danielson101 8 месяцев назад

nice compression! and fairly equal amazing!!!

@juicy5836 8 месяцев назад

I drove a similar one when I was a kid , called a scorpion was so fun and tuff as nails

@glenmallory9982 6 месяцев назад

Oh boy the Lloyd 399. The engine that was part of Ski Daddlers down fall. Engine fires and seizures cost them thousands. Jet it rich and use premium synthetic in the fuel friend, keep it cool and no running on hot days. You might make out ok. It’s good to preserve the odd sleds.

@keithmishler4095 6 месяцев назад

I have another tip for you your chrome on the snowmobile to safely remove the rust and polish try using a SOS pad you will be amazed at the results it makes it look like new.

@user-uq4wt2cd5c 8 месяцев назад

Scott from California. You can make your own windshield by heating up lexan! Make a pattern out of non corrigated cardboard.

@chrisharris1419 8 месяцев назад

Suggestion...spray the carb, wd before taking apart ?

@ratbikerustygold3398 5 месяцев назад

You can easily make a windshield. Use what's left for a template for that radius. Diamond tipped 4.5 " blade and polycarbonate . Good luck.

@nrgate 8 месяцев назад

Toiletson carb kits available at any SkiDoo dealer, about 10 bucks. Crank seal on clutch side needs replacing by you description of your plugs. Have fun

@lipsmackerMike 8 месяцев назад

Love your channel great stuff.. one thing I might add is invest in an ultrasonic cleaner!! You so so many carbs it’s worth the investment! Keep up the great content!

@mike.4277 8 месяцев назад

Excellent video 👍

@LewisMowersandBoats 8 месяцев назад

Great job brother 👏 👍 🙌 🙏

@ryanjohnson1814 8 месяцев назад

Nice, that sled reminds me, of the movie sno ball express, old movie, just a great hilarious movie, if can get ya hands on it to watch.

@Chris_Lastname 8 месяцев назад

You could make a new windscreen for that, using a piece of polycarbonate, and a heat gun to shape it. use what's left of the old screen, as a template to drill the mounting holes. Cool sled that one. super rare

@ianhorabin9763 8 месяцев назад

A good tip for cleaning plugs& points inside the flywheel is to use a women's nail sanding stick.there the perfect grade of sand paper & the right shape to access the points..my Mrs can't understand where hers keep disappearing to..😂👍

@FrenchyCanuck Месяц назад

Those were made in Québec, Canada and sold for about 1000$. It has a 400 cc Lloyd engine producing 22 hp.

@AbcDef-iq4no 8 месяцев назад

That's too bad about the windshield. I wonder if you might be able to find another one from another older snowmobile or a motorcycle fairing that might work. It's cool you are preserving a well-made machine.

@rintin1874 8 месяцев назад

Brilliant video Joe watching from Edinburgh Scotland UK 🇬🇧 👏

@snowyowl7042 8 месяцев назад

Cute, it looks like a Playskol My First Sled

@TheJlp12345 8 месяцев назад

Lexan from Lowe’s or Home Depot and you can make your own replacement windshield lexan is very tough but flexible and workable good luck with the machine!!

@jamesravnikar5622 8 месяцев назад

I am sure you can find a carb kit online. There are many vintage sleds out there

@thebrokenbiker869 8 месяцев назад

Dam... Looks like a good machine for sure

@douglaskerr6813 8 месяцев назад

He the smart one showed up after the hard work is done 😃

@mylanmiller9656 8 месяцев назад

Most of old Snowmobiles had an eccentric on the top Bearing to tension the Chain' take a look at your chain case and you will see if your sled has this.

@jakeslouw3416 8 месяцев назад

You can cut and bend polycarbonate plastic sheet. Brand name in those days was Perspex. Bend using a heat gun. Trim using a hand saw.

@Supertech-86 8 месяцев назад

Magneto produces ac and with addition of a diode in the circuit it produces half wave dc for lights and charging, many times with a high revving engine and lack of a dc regulator you'll have those dummy load resistors, as you have by the headlight, to absorb overvoltage and keep your headlights from burning out.

@gjohnston281 8 месяцев назад

Back in the old days a dollar bill came in handy for cleaning “points “

@wurthmannd024 8 месяцев назад

I still use them to clean flame sensors on gas furnaces 😁🙃

@bobwalton4879 8 месяцев назад

Good content, if one was going to make a complete restoration, one would have many videos, and this site is only to get them running and show!

@bradwilliams5242 8 месяцев назад

That light switch look just like the one one my 68 cobia boat

@Kbh335 8 месяцев назад

Get a spark tester it plugs into the spark plug boot so you don’t have worry if the plug is bad or not btw I love your videos

@ZafiraSteve 8 месяцев назад

Invest in a van or a box trailer. I collect bikes in my transit connect, no worries at all

@eugenesbackyardrepair4593 8 месяцев назад

Well hopefully you can plated on inside of that backing and maybe use a two bolt flange bearing. If you use carnage bolts the heads can be flat on inside so doesn't interfere with lower sprocket. Good luck but other old sleds use the same chsin case

@jonmartin6451 8 месяцев назад

I thought I saw a pic of that chain drive on the manual when you were checking it out? Don’t recall seeing a tension unit in the pic.

@safn1949 8 месяцев назад

I hadf a 1968 Sno Prince and a 1970 also, that is the twin cylinder Lloyds engine.

@danielson101 8 месяцев назад

i grew up with these!

@workaholic5318 8 месяцев назад

That carb looks like it is supplied with tillotson diaphragms. I don't recognize the pattern of the casting, but the diaphragms are the same pattern as old 2100 Homelite chain saw carb diaphragms.