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Rare Antique Fractal Vise [Restoration] 

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This restoration was on an AMAZING vise that was made by the Mantle & Co., most likely in the 1920s. Very little history remains of that company or this vise they made, but the patent can be found here: patents.google.com/patent/US1...
If anyone has any information on this special tool, please contact me at handtoolrescue@gmail.com
This vise was found in a fairly poor condition with many holes drilled into it, broken castings, as well as a small jaw missing and swivel base missing.
I spent an insane amount of time thinking about how to approach the repairs as I really didn't want to risk doing something that could ruin things further, so naturally I chose the hardest and most risky option; cast iron welding.
I wanted to use pure cast iron rods to torch weld the holes in the vise so that the colour match of the repair would be perfect. Any repairs that were not going to be visible, were fixed with brazing.
I also completely re-japanned the whole vise with 5 coats of japanning.
Making the missing jaw was complicated enough that I had to get the machine shop that makes the wrenches and screwdrivers for me to 3D model it and replicate the part in-house. It turned out amazingly well!
A lot of this restoration was spent sanding and lapping mating surfaces to ensure the vise was actually useable and restored to previous working condition.
I shall keep this insanely unique vise forever and ever as it is just too interesting to part with!
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Комментарии : 10 тыс.   
@HandToolRescue
@HandToolRescue 2 года назад
Is this the greatest vise of all time? You can see more of it in action on my Instagram: instagram.com/handtoolrescue/
@sarchlalaith8836
@sarchlalaith8836 2 года назад
If you're selling it, I'll buy
@logya
@logya 2 года назад
Hi , yep one of the most clever thing i saw in a long time ... And by the way , be careful , you will break the glass , again , if you're not lighter on it .... lol Peace from France ; )
@montesanot
@montesanot 2 года назад
yes, i must own one!
@MarcHarrisx
@MarcHarrisx 2 года назад
that is so clever and yet seemingly so obvious to make. that's why I'm not an inventor. i have zero fracts
@stevendegonia
@stevendegonia 2 года назад
Hey, $639.80 USD is not bad for a vise of that caliber and in such a lovingly restored condition as well! At that price, I suggest one vice for each piece of machinery you own!
@Ididathing
@Ididathing 2 года назад
Its nice but i still prefer using my teeth!
@isailaraprieto
@isailaraprieto 2 года назад
Nice! Some good ol' australian wisdom
@knaveofknaves1709
@knaveofknaves1709 2 года назад
Teeth are versatile tools. Perfect replacements for a center punch!
@kingofbleh
@kingofbleh 2 года назад
Of course he does a thing here too
@pitchblack2983
@pitchblack2983 2 года назад
Did you do a thing?
@elijahheyrosa5398
@elijahheyrosa5398 2 года назад
I prefer my nails but teeth works fine too
@mikeduwe
@mikeduwe 2 года назад
Market value of these went up 10000% instantly, none of us knew they existed till this video and now we all want one.
@thetruthexperiment
@thetruthexperiment 2 года назад
Exactly. If I see one in any condition what so ever I am taking it.
@REDxFROG
@REDxFROG 2 года назад
Yeah super important. My life depends on this one.
@jinglemyberries866
@jinglemyberries866 2 года назад
For sure lol! Though i wonder why there are no modern equivalents to this vise? (as far as i know)
@thetruthexperiment
@thetruthexperiment 2 года назад
@@jinglemyberries866 there will be now that there’s a market but this must have been expensive and new ones will also be expensive. Hours on a CNC Machine just to make one. Then assembly. Look for it on aliexpress in the next few months.
@jinglemyberries866
@jinglemyberries866 2 года назад
@@thetruthexperiment Yea lets hope these become available soon! Youre right, it'd definitely be expensive but if its built well, it'll be worth it in the long run IMO!
@ToreDL87
@ToreDL87 5 месяцев назад
2 years later and with this video you've revived fractal vises to the point they're being manufactured and sold again.
@TheDioblo2345
@TheDioblo2345 2 месяца назад
Yeah... for extremely high prices
@lukie4ever
@lukie4ever Месяц назад
​@@TheDioblo2345 thats probably just a "fraction" of the price
@robharrington71
@robharrington71 10 месяцев назад
This is my favorite video of yours.I've watched it multiple times, and am just fascinated by the design. I saw Adam Savage found one, so I came back to watch again. Here I am again marveling at the fact that someone hand built this in c. 1914, with belt driven lathes, slide rules, and a lot of trial and error. Thanks for sharing this It makes my day every time I watch.
@samiloom8565
@samiloom8565 9 месяцев назад
Same here watched adam ..i decided to watch this video again
@daprof7417
@daprof7417 8 месяцев назад
Me too.
@snaplash
@snaplash 7 месяцев назад
This one flows the small jaws around the item every time, even the "soft" quill spring. The Chinese clone Adam picked up needs it's haws massaged around the item by hand, otherwise the jaws stick, even after lapping them: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5Vjw6c3BDPU.html
@bagochips834
@bagochips834 2 года назад
29:37 when that vice was made, it was almost definitely before CNC was a thing, so all of those parts were hand spun on a lathe. Some dude with a lathe had the skill to make an articulated vice that adjusts to grip nearly anything, meanwhile I can't even make a square on an etch-a-sketch.
@CzornyLisek
@CzornyLisek 2 года назад
Maybe not CNC but programmable lathes and so on are very old invention
@deth3021
@deth3021 2 года назад
1:00 bottom right. It was patented in 1914. So long before CNC.
@Beakerbite
@Beakerbite 2 года назад
@@deth3021 Sure, but you can get a lot done with fixtures, jigs, and stops. Requires a lot of manual setup, but then you can fire the same part out a thousand times, no CNC required.
@Baer1990
@Baer1990 2 года назад
and then some idiot didn't know when to stop drilling lol How can you damage a vise like that?
@VestigialHead
@VestigialHead 2 года назад
@@Baer1990 I can just imagine some Grandpa who has loved this vice for 40 years reluctantly loaning it to his grandson who returned it full of drill holes. Envisioning the tears in Grandpa's eyes as he sees the damage. Then the questions by the family as to the whereabouts of aforementioned grandson. Pops: Have you seen Johnny? he has not been home in weeks. Last I heard he was bringing some tools you loaned him back to you.
@heavyballs8458
@heavyballs8458 2 года назад
This brings new meaning to the term “they don’t build them like they used to” Ive never even heard of one of these vices
@marknicholson4132
@marknicholson4132 2 года назад
Yeah me neither , am now sooooo wanting one..!😃
@Aoskar95
@Aoskar95 2 года назад
Probably fell out of favor. With a normal vise can easily maintain the same zero during serial production. This was probably more common before the use of NC machines
@dizzydial8081
@dizzydial8081 2 года назад
Came to say this. You don't make profits from selling a quality product, sadly.
@mrkiky
@mrkiky 2 года назад
Probably because it's a very expensive and sensitive piece of equipment that does what any cheap vice does, a little better. But in most cases that little better is not needed. If you have to clamp something uneven like that you just add a piece of wood and a piece of leather and it does the job. This design would be good for a workshop that specializes in highly variable, uneven workpieces that need to be gripped very securely, and I can't imagine what that can be to be honest.
@Zwettekop
@Zwettekop 2 года назад
@@mrkiky Maybe like a stone carver? It would have to be made out of plastic then.
@HickLif3
@HickLif3 Год назад
The amount of machining to make this thing to begin with blows my mind. I'm not a machinist at all but it's crazy to think about all the steps and different tools and even the order you would have to go in to make each individual part that is DOVETAILED into eachother
@dillonrose3428
@dillonrose3428 Год назад
I’m a machinist and that’s how I think about every man made intricate thing. Begins to blow your mind on the daily. Also, this dude must smoke weed cuz the minor ways where I see exactly how something comes apart and watching him struggle had my heart on edge lol
@stanislavczebinski994
@stanislavczebinski994 10 месяцев назад
Machining it is a feat indeed - designing it is another level. Before you can build it you have to envision it in your mind. I mean how in the world did the designer get the idea?
@EdwardBIl
@EdwardBIl 9 месяцев назад
@@stanislavczebinski994 If my vice could just bend in the middle a bit that would be great. If my middle-bending-vice could just bend in the middle a bit that would be great. If my middle-bending-middle-bending-vice could just bend in the middle a bit that would be great. If my middle-bending-middle-bending-middle-bending-vice could just bend in the middle a bit that would be great...
@donaldmatthies6026
@donaldmatthies6026 2 года назад
Well at the price of $639.80, I'll take two please. The amount of thought that went into that vise back in the 1900s is amazing! Thank you for taking time to film, machine, edit and post this video.
@robdewberry2587
@robdewberry2587 8 месяцев назад
Actually it’s $3049.80 $4.20 x 69 payments😏
@bobk.5883
@bobk.5883 5 месяцев назад
Not to mention the shipping@@robdewberry2587
@michaelblaes9847
@michaelblaes9847 2 месяца назад
Tell me you smoke and are a guy, without telling me you smoke and are a guy. Please insinuate you also find fart jokes funny at the same time.
@Hisu0
@Hisu0 Месяц назад
@@robdewberry2587 4.2x69=289.8
@OlivierGomis
@OlivierGomis 2 года назад
Now with this vise I can finally do what AvE has been telling us in all his videos...
@kevinmartin7760
@kevinmartin7760 2 года назад
Did you not listen to the disclaimer near the end?????
@zinckensteel
@zinckensteel 2 года назад
@@kevinmartin7760 Sure, but he has his "RenisShield" installed, so it's not a problem.
@gregjames666
@gregjames666 2 года назад
@@kevinmartin7760 well done, had to drop the speed to .5 to hear it clearly. Both great Canadian RU-vidrs
@daviddavis703
@daviddavis703 2 года назад
@@gregjames666 you put "great" and "Canadian" in the same sentence... your a funny one!😉
@gordonfischer8484
@gordonfischer8484 2 года назад
Hahaha 36:00
@smartereveryday
@smartereveryday 2 года назад
Well that's beautiful.
@0Rookie0
@0Rookie0 2 года назад
Quick, show this to Steve Mould and Matt Parker!
@inkorekt
@inkorekt 2 года назад
It really is.
@nvme3012
@nvme3012 2 года назад
19 minutes ago dang
@pistolmastertequila
@pistolmastertequila 2 года назад
Hi Dustin 😀
@mitchtalmadge
@mitchtalmadge 2 года назад
Why are these vices not more popular? Seems like a great invention
@hootinouts
@hootinouts 7 месяцев назад
My background was in tool and die making both out on the shop floor and as a designer in the drafting room and this is the first time I ever saw a vise this amazing. To think that this vise was designed and machined back in the early 1900's speaks volumes of the skill of the craftsmen. The restoration on this vise it top notch. So nice to see a treasure like this given a second life.
@JoelAvila
@JoelAvila 8 месяцев назад
OMG! The Good Eats reference! 😂 Completely unexpected and extremely well executed. Loved it!
@wolfrig2000
@wolfrig2000 2 года назад
This has blown up in the 3d printing community. People are referencing this video and printing these out of plastic left and right! I keep seeing your video come up in 3d printing videos daily.
@varsityathlete9927
@varsityathlete9927 2 года назад
I read your comment and searched fractal vise, in the images instantly found this design made by 3d printing. awesome, but you what I thought was really remarkable is the turnabout, this video was released not even 3 weeks ago and people are always making their own one. shows the power of 3d printing. old fashioned industry 3 weeks in and its not left the drawing board.
@datboiya8942
@datboiya8942 2 года назад
Just came from 3d printing video lmao
@kyle_mk17
@kyle_mk17 2 года назад
@@datboiya8942 was it teaching tech?
@lynniewood
@lynniewood 2 года назад
@@varsityathlete9927 making something out of metal or wood is very different from making something in a 3d printer, if a print goes wrong or you need to change something you can just print it again, if you make a mistake in metal that could be a lot of work to change anything. Makes sense they spend more time in the planning phase.
@jonalexander2859
@jonalexander2859 2 года назад
yea right after i said we could make these easily everyone was talking down to me saying how impossible it is.
@SableRaf
@SableRaf 2 года назад
“someone drilled holes in the vice and lost a jaw” Sounds like an appropriate punishment to me
@LazerBrain11
@LazerBrain11 2 года назад
😂
@TempoDrift1480
@TempoDrift1480 2 года назад
Ha for sure!
@MichaelHarto
@MichaelHarto 2 года назад
😂
@ruudhooff6486
@ruudhooff6486 2 года назад
😂
@T..C..M
@T..C..M 2 года назад
😂
@rickvanauken6364
@rickvanauken6364 2 года назад
Nearly every day I spend some time on RU-vid exploring for things I never knew. This fractal vise is an amazing device and your restoration was totally educational as well. Welding with cast iron rod…makes perfect sense!
@-MrFozzy-
@-MrFozzy- 9 месяцев назад
Honestly….this might be the most beautiful piece of machinery I’ve every seen, even before the cleanup
@ominous9139
@ominous9139 2 года назад
After 25 years as a professional mechanic I rarely see a tool that I am not at least familiar with. I had no idea that I had the wrong vise this entire time! Thanks for the video.
@TypeZeta2
@TypeZeta2 2 года назад
So what is it used for? I really want to know
@ominous9139
@ominous9139 2 года назад
@@TypeZeta2 getting a good hold on unusually shaped objects.
@TypeZeta2
@TypeZeta2 2 года назад
@@ominous9139 that makes sense I was a bit confused on its purpose when I saw it but it’s still really cool
@ctloyd640
@ctloyd640 2 года назад
Yeah, me either. 57 and been an avid tool guy since I got my first mini tool set and workbench at 7 years old. I never seen such an intriguing tool.
@allanwidner9276
@allanwidner9276 2 года назад
As soon as I saw it I remembered a dozen times at least I could have used something like this back when I had a shop.
@MadCrazeTheBlade708
@MadCrazeTheBlade708 2 года назад
As someone who doesn't use vises, I can count on one hand the number of times I have said "that's a cool vise" and this one is now number 1
@captainTubes
@captainTubes 2 года назад
As an appreciator of vices, and having desired many beautiful and wonderful antique vices, I approve this comment.
@mrCetus
@mrCetus 2 года назад
This is by far, one of the finest tool restorations I have ever seen. The Fractal Vise itself is absolutely amazing and it gave me a great sense of satisfaction to watch it being restored with such absolute care and attention to detail. Wonderful! Thank you for sharing.
@aarontfoulkes
@aarontfoulkes 10 месяцев назад
I have never seen a vice like that. I'm amazed at the engineering capabilites ( and machining capabilitees) that were present at that period in time. Your restoration is awesome...! Good job!
@ajwilson605
@ajwilson605 2 года назад
As a kid in the late '50's, early '60's, I watched in awe when my grandfather used his fractal vise for holding small model parts he was manufacturing. He had been a tool and die maker starting in the teens and retired in the mid-'50's. In my youth I thought the way the vise worked was magic because I couldn't grasp just how intricate of a mechanism it was. He said he bought it for a special job he had at work and it was the best $19.50 he ever spent. If you consider he was making about $22 a week(in 1928), that was a lot of money. When he passed away in '65, my uncle got all his machinists and hand tools. My uncle sold them all to pay for his next drunken binge....... Great video!
@markusfalk9459
@markusfalk9459 2 года назад
Well, we can only hope SOMEONE got ahold of that fractal vise and understood how much engineering went into it. I.E. Appreciates it. Also, A-hole uncle needs his come-uppance.
@X4Alpha4X
@X4Alpha4X 2 года назад
$20 in 1928 is only a little over $300 today, frankly finding a vice like that for $300 today would been seen as a steal.
@privatezim3637
@privatezim3637 2 года назад
@@X4Alpha4X only 69 payments of $4.20 is $289.80. definitely a steal
@X4Alpha4X
@X4Alpha4X 2 года назад
@@privatezim3637 ahhh but you seemed to have missed the $350 shipping! lol even still i would honestly gladly pay $640 for a vice like this
@GregorShapiro
@GregorShapiro 2 года назад
@@privatezim3637 Plus $350 in shipping and handling...
@crabmansteve6844
@crabmansteve6844 2 года назад
This thing is the definition of "tolerance stacking".
@michaelrogers4157
@michaelrogers4157 2 года назад
Fucking right? I want one now just to display with a plaque that has that phrase alone. See how many people get it.
@BeN0lf
@BeN0lf 2 года назад
has anyone got any idea as to how the hell those curved dovetails were machined?
@JainZar1
@JainZar1 2 года назад
My guess is, that that vise was handfitted, thus no tolerances to worry about.
@JainZar1
@JainZar1 2 года назад
@Inspired Introvert Copy-Lathes alone have been around for at least one century, probably more than two.
@joshschneider9766
@joshschneider9766 2 года назад
The curved dovetails were made with an inside slotting tool on a lathe. Probably a turret lathe in 1913 but I'm not sure
@woodrowcall3269
@woodrowcall3269 Год назад
I just found this today, a little late to the post. What a piece of engineering. Your restoration is great. Keep saving the past, it sure is better than what they make today.
@wirelesmike73
@wirelesmike73 Год назад
That is an amazing piece of engineering, and some impressive work in restoring it to its intended functionality. Remaking the missing part had to be an interesting voyage, considering each one was numbered to fit individually in its own place. Well done, Sir.
@mikedl1105
@mikedl1105 2 года назад
I've only just now learned of the existence of this thing, and I want one
@TreyCook21
@TreyCook21 2 года назад
It's the coolest thing I've ever seen. I hope to find one someday.
@happyundertaker6255
@happyundertaker6255 2 года назад
Same!
@james_robnett
@james_robnett 2 года назад
Same, I didn't realize I was in the market for another vise till I saw this.
@leemcgann6470
@leemcgann6470 2 года назад
Hell yeah!
@IrradiatedFeline
@IrradiatedFeline 2 года назад
I am kind of angry right now. That thing would have helped alot back then when i was in training to become a welder.
@JayAbel
@JayAbel 2 года назад
That's such a cool design. I didn't even know this kind of vise existed.
@notyourbuddy_guy
@notyourbuddy_guy 2 года назад
Same, I need one now
@brandonharrington1422
@brandonharrington1422 2 года назад
Took the words right out of my mouth!
@stephenrobb8759
@stephenrobb8759 2 года назад
My thoughts as well. Really cool to see it, Plus the rebuild and full functionality... awesome
@robertnorman3181
@robertnorman3181 2 года назад
I just said the same thing and I've been a machinist for 20 yrs.
@jimyeats
@jimyeats 2 года назад
I quick Google search barely brings up any info on them. Basically the only thing that comes up is from within the last few days related to this restoration.
@ttoddh1
@ttoddh1 Год назад
What an amazing invention. I am 55 years old and never saw a vise like that. You did a great job.
@sinlokemp
@sinlokemp Год назад
This is the coolest tool ever seen and what an amazing restoration! Simply loved it.
@DlSASTERCHlLD
@DlSASTERCHlLD 2 года назад
This has got to be one of the coolest tools I will never need but wish I had.
@FFVoyager
@FFVoyager 2 года назад
I'd have one just look at!
@jdmccorful
@jdmccorful 2 года назад
@@FFVoyager Ditto!
@whitefeather5629
@whitefeather5629 2 года назад
Might use it once or twice. But probably not for what it was truely meant for. So cool though
@petersmith9530
@petersmith9530 2 года назад
@@whitefeather5629 Agreed.
@FireAngelOfLondon
@FireAngelOfLondon 2 года назад
For an engraver this would be worth it's weight in platinum. You never know what a customer is going to want engraved, and working out safe ways to clamp things for engraving is often a large part of the art. This would reduce the time spent making custom jigs almost to zero. That said, I am not an engraver and I want one too...
@biobiobio7777
@biobiobio7777 2 года назад
I never even heard of a fractal vice until now and I think it's one of the coolest things ever!
@PeachiiWubs
@PeachiiWubs 2 года назад
Same, the original creator was a genius lol
@rebuz87
@rebuz87 2 года назад
Same! That thing is so cool!
@mileslong3904
@mileslong3904 2 года назад
It's one of the most useful things I've ever seen and I don't see how I can live without it.
@yvonnewilson3505
@yvonnewilson3505 2 года назад
VERY SNEAKY !! 😎
@ICYPROFITS
@ICYPROFITS 2 года назад
@@mileslong3904 good luck finding one. If you do they either don't know what they have or you're going to pay atleast $1k
@dtj9923
@dtj9923 Год назад
Beautiful rescue job. I can't imagine how much that vise could cost today even with CNC production automation. The assembly process alone must take hours.
@rickmcdonald1557
@rickmcdonald1557 Год назад
You-Sir are quite the artist with the tools in your shop and that special vise is quite a treasure and so important that you restored it to new condition for all to admire. You deserve to be Knighted~!!! The editing alone wins the prize~!!
@vanceplace1349
@vanceplace1349 2 года назад
I hate that they don’t make stuff like this anymore. This is the coolest vice I’ve ever seen
@chronovore7234
@chronovore7234 2 года назад
They’re still made today, mostly used for engraving, but you have to custom order one.
@ricky107_
@ricky107_ 2 года назад
@@chronovore7234 must be stupid expensive!
@wadebrewer7212
@wadebrewer7212 2 года назад
In interested. Where might I get one?
@vanceplace1349
@vanceplace1349 2 года назад
@@chronovore7234 I’m thinking at least a thousand dollars
@vanceplace1349
@vanceplace1349 2 года назад
@@ricky107_ definitely agree with that
@SavageShooter93
@SavageShooter93 2 года назад
this vice is one of the most elegant tools I have ever seen.
@trosketj
@trosketj Год назад
The most amazing tool I’ve ever seen. I enjoy your humor and the unusual assortment of tools you restore. Nice Channel!
@siriustraveler7083
@siriustraveler7083 5 месяцев назад
Absolutely beautiful restoration of a Fractal Vise these are so hard to come by anymore ❤
@python357magnum100
@python357magnum100 2 года назад
As a machinist for 35 years, now retired, it’s a pleasure to watch someone take the time,effort and skill to do it right on every project.
@68able2
@68able2 Год назад
you have an awesome name man
@python357magnum100
@python357magnum100 Год назад
@@68able2 Thank you 🍻
@jimbusmaximus4624
@jimbusmaximus4624 Год назад
A man who knows tolerance!!
@-Deena.
@-Deena. 2 года назад
A fractal vise made by Mantle - but one piece was missing. After making a replacement new part you now have the complete Mantlebrot Set 😁
@SpiacyLos
@SpiacyLos 2 года назад
next: restoration of Sierpiński carpet
@mattsadventureswithart5764
@mattsadventureswithart5764 2 года назад
That is a proper Dad-joke!
@randyallaway4085
@randyallaway4085 2 года назад
Okay, that was pretty good.
@-Deena.
@-Deena. 2 года назад
@@randyallaway4085 Why thank you! I thought so 😁 ❤
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@gregromer9441 2 года назад
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@johnnyleach7152
@johnnyleach7152 Год назад
This channel is the best....for guys that like old school ingenuity. That vice is mechanical perfection.
@pthrelkeld090
@pthrelkeld090 2 года назад
There are no words for how incredible and beautiful this is, this was designed by a very unique individual
@danielb.9897
@danielb.9897 7 месяцев назад
He must have been possessed of a remarkably creative mind. There was no CAD back then or anything of the sort... this guy thought of the movements and shapes of every part of this thing in his head. Such an artist he must have been
@russbilzing5348
@russbilzing5348 2 года назад
As a machinist, I can't count the number of times that I had to design and make vise jaws for one off jobs that this would have handled with no more than a shrug and a, "So? Wie so, denn?" attitude. Hey life, I want a do-over. Very fine work, sir.
@RubSomefastOnIt
@RubSomefastOnIt 2 года назад
I think a simplified set of something like these would be amazing for a Kurt. A tool room cnc, just toss an ugly rough cut piece of stock and go.
@ufc990
@ufc990 2 года назад
Yes sir, I came here just to say something similar! Would be so handy to have one of these in the shop
@RubSomefastOnIt
@RubSomefastOnIt 2 года назад
@@stanervin6108 sure just like bars of soap do...
@0mars0mars0
@0mars0mars0 2 года назад
Aber warum und wie ist das benutzt
@stijnlombaert8396
@stijnlombaert8396 2 года назад
Wouldn' t it be hard to get reference points and positioning?
@wesleytownsend8214
@wesleytownsend8214 2 года назад
I’d play a lot of cash for that vice. Damn in seven decades on this earth I’ve only seen a few of these gems. Good on you for preserving one. I wish you all the best!
@megan00b8
@megan00b8 2 года назад
Does no-one make these anymore? It seems pretty useful. Or do you mean this exact model from that specific company?
@wesleytownsend8214
@wesleytownsend8214 2 года назад
@@megan00b8 I haven’t seen one for sale in probably 30+ years but I agree that if no one makes them then they should.
@megan00b8
@megan00b8 2 года назад
@@wesleytownsend8214 wow, I mean sure, you will need this mainly just for limited kinds of uses, but there's a kazilion tools that are only for extremely specific uses and are being sold fine, it's weird that these are missing on the market entirely.
@Teknophobe
@Teknophobe 2 года назад
I agree. Beautiful piece of equipment. It's the kind of thing you may not need for year's, but when you need it. It's essential.
@wesleytownsend8214
@wesleytownsend8214 2 года назад
@@Teknophobe absolutely agree and it would be great to have one with both steel and rubber (or another softer material) interchangeable inserts. I do some wood carving/inlays/engraving on corbels and other oddly shaped pieces, and these would be very efficient to hold a piece in place securely. The only fractal vices/clamps I have found online were old and rusty and the seller wanted an insane amount of money for them. I wish you good health and all the best to you and your!
@Dbean48
@Dbean48 Год назад
Fantastic break down and cleaning and creating new pieces to completion in reassembling. Great job, like the video, sent it on to my friends and family hope they enjoy it as much I have..👍🏻
@hamwallet8446
@hamwallet8446 Год назад
That is insane. A ton of thought went into that. To make it be able to hold any shape is amazing
@kroon275
@kroon275 2 года назад
I'm 50 years old, love engineering, and have never seen a vice like this before. Fucking awesome
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 2 года назад
Fractal vise...fractal vise...bless my homeland forever.
@payneman
@payneman 2 года назад
I understood that reference, edelweiss 🎶
@2boredfortv
@2boredfortv 2 года назад
And me knowing you'd make some kind of Tool reference
@greypoet2
@greypoet2 2 года назад
Yeah, I sang it. lol
@The_CIA
@The_CIA 2 года назад
*Excuse me, the real lyrics are "TABLE VICE".*
@davidgolden6068
@davidgolden6068 2 года назад
😂
@dabbopabblo
@dabbopabblo Год назад
This channel actually perfectly merges the world of comedy and antique repair, I don’t even watch antique repair videos but I watched this full to the end
@tommylitchfield3450
@tommylitchfield3450 9 месяцев назад
Slowly, S.L.O.W.L.Y. close the blast cabinet.... Then sandblast like a MADMAN!!!! This made the whole video worth watching, all by itself! Very well done, HTR!!
@SeanHodgins
@SeanHodgins 2 года назад
Regular vise: 5 parts, cast iron, loose non-critical tolerances. Fractal vise: Too many parts to count, machined steel, incredibly tight tolerance, each channel selectively mated and labeled. I think I see why these didn't become popular.
@TheRealColBosch
@TheRealColBosch 2 года назад
"Solution in search of a problem" comes to mind.
@avbates79
@avbates79 2 года назад
Won't hold a banana. I would love the ability to grip irregular shapes on my mill. Probably very expensive back then because of the complex mfg. but now cnc could bring the cost down. Not a replacement for my wilton, but I would buy one
@moonrazk
@moonrazk 2 года назад
@@TheRealColBosch More like "very expensive perfect solution for problems that can be solved with creative, albeit imperfect solutions".
@getin3949
@getin3949 2 года назад
30
@sarchlalaith8836
@sarchlalaith8836 2 года назад
Tolerances don't have to be that precise though, those dove tails don't have to be that precise, they don't have to be steel either. Just because something is easier to make, doesn't mean it should be preferred.
@BreydonsRC
@BreydonsRC 2 года назад
I machined for 25 years, and I can think of hundreds of uses for this vise. You did an AMAZING restoration! They just don't make things like this anymore, and it is a real shame, because this vise is a work of art. And there aren't many people like you that would go through this much trouble to restore it. So thank you so much for bringing it back from the past! New subscriber man!
@blobymcblobface
@blobymcblobface 2 года назад
What kind of machining did you do? My dad had a 3 axis milling machine in our garage for most of my life. If he still had the old Fadal I'd imagine he'd be looking for one of these vices now.
@BreydonsRC
@BreydonsRC 2 года назад
@@blobymcblobface I started of working at job shops making Aerospace and military components, then went into the racing industry for about 8 years making parts for mostly NASCAR and IndyCar. From there I went back into Aerospace where I finished my career after becoming disabled.
@jasonbarnes8047
@jasonbarnes8047 2 года назад
That was my exact thought, that's why I sent Ave a line that maybe this could help with his cnc tooling and such. I believe it would make life easier as long as you could get it figured out how to accurately clamp in each time
@BreydonsRC
@BreydonsRC 2 года назад
@@jasonbarnes8047 I imagine these vises were made for castings where you just needed to clamp the part in and face it off. But as long as your casting was symmetrical it should pretty much locate the same way every time. You could always add a fixed stop on one side. So something with holes and other details wouldn't be hard to machine in this as long as your casting allowed for some deviation. Which is why the vise had drill gouges in the base when this project was started ;) I've made complex fixtures for a lot of cast parts that this vise would have been absolutely perfect for. It is just funny how we have evolved away from making tools like this. If you think about the old machinists, and how innovative they had to be to make things, it is just sad. CNC's have done away with a lot of growth of individuals as far as building machining skills.
@jasonbarnes8047
@jasonbarnes8047 2 года назад
@@BreydonsRC exactly that was my line of thought plus you reduce stress and markings on items when you can actually spend the weight out over the entire piece. I really do miss the days of making things that were not only engineered to last but to span across all walks of life. Now they just care about dumping dime store quality items on the market knowing they'll buy another if they need to replace it. Some call it cheap but I absolutely enjoy actually getting into something thats broken and repairing it.
@DrachenGothik666
@DrachenGothik666 10 месяцев назад
I came here because of Adam Savage getting one of these fascinating devices. You had me chortling in surprise when you said you were mentally stable, then licked your table! LOL This was beautiful restoration. Very soothing. Gorgeous work. Thank you.
@drengskap
@drengskap 9 месяцев назад
Insane amounts of precision machining and fitting in this tool - I don't really need one, but I'm just happy to know that it exists.
@WadeWeigle
@WadeWeigle 2 года назад
The man hours in machining to create this Vice without the aid of computers is mind boggling. It must have cost $20 in 1914!!! Excellent video, thank you.
@The_Mimewar
@The_Mimewar 2 года назад
It’s absolutely BEAUTIFUL TOO. I’m AMAZED I’ve never seen one of these before
@frotz661
@frotz661 2 года назад
For a price perspective here, the $20 coin of the time contained about 96% of a troy ounce of gold. The current spot price for a troy ounce of gold is $1,804.90.
@Synthmilk
@Synthmilk 2 года назад
@@frotz661 Seems about right if not actually on the low end considering the incredibly precise machining of the part. Those tolerances are incredible for something made back then.
@Martin.Wilson
@Martin.Wilson 2 года назад
Or as Derek from Vice Grip Garage says...."mind bottling". LOL
@lazarpejic6415
@lazarpejic6415 2 года назад
I mean forging also existed back then
@michaelgrubbs1618
@michaelgrubbs1618 2 года назад
Imagine inventing and then actually building this piece over a hundred years ago. The engineering is insane and quite unique
@Pyrohawk
@Pyrohawk 2 года назад
Someone applied the same principle to mathematical functions and BANG the internet happened
@szewal
@szewal 2 года назад
I mean let be honest, it's not that impressive or revolutionary, considering what inventions had preceded it. It's only 100 years
@Rich-je9fy
@Rich-je9fy 2 года назад
I wouldn’t say it’s that impressive in an engineering sense, but it’s very creative in its use of fractals
@michaelgrubbs1618
@michaelgrubbs1618 2 года назад
@@Rich-je9fy may I ask how old you are rich. All due respect
@TheBarcodebilly
@TheBarcodebilly 2 года назад
The radius ways really got me for being that old, along with the tolerances
@Private-GtngxNMBKvYzXyPq
@Private-GtngxNMBKvYzXyPq 10 месяцев назад
Respect to the one(s) who crafted this and to the one who restored it. Thank you for sharing.
@94Angelwing
@94Angelwing Год назад
What a wonderful vise and restoration. I'd never heard of a fractal vise before!
@davidhamilton7628
@davidhamilton7628 2 года назад
The guy who drew this up without cad was on a different wavelength
@marsrocket
@marsrocket 2 года назад
If it’s truly fractal it would only require a drawing of one jaw. Just change the scale each time you make one.
@TheVexCortex
@TheVexCortex 2 года назад
@@marsrocket That would be _identical,_ not fractal. For each fractal, the radii changes, both the inside and outside. You still require a drawing for each fractal.
@bacicinvatteneaca
@bacicinvatteneaca 2 года назад
@@marsrocket fractals aren't typically self-similar
@mmi16
@mmi16 2 года назад
Inventors of yore had minds better the CAD/CAM - the thing many of their inventions lacked were the materials to be successful.
@THESLlCK
@THESLlCK 2 года назад
if you just pick up a pencil once in your lifetime, you'll realize they're quite easy to use
@PhilVandelay
@PhilVandelay 2 года назад
This thing is so freaking cool! Loved that you managed to add the missing jaw, we need to preserve this for future generations
@troywolverton3067
@troywolverton3067 2 года назад
Are you related to Art Vandelay
@IndianaDundee
@IndianaDundee 2 года назад
They need to reproduce these so we can buy one.
@littlejackalo5326
@littlejackalo5326 2 года назад
@@troywolverton3067 in the latex industry
@hriatpuiachhakchuak8394
@hriatpuiachhakchuak8394 2 года назад
We need to put this back into production
@jonwatson9765
@jonwatson9765 2 года назад
I'd buy one even if I never found a use for it.
@leonardodalongisland
@leonardodalongisland 10 месяцев назад
I wound up here via Adam Savage's channel. Glad I "found" you. great work. My favorite moment was when you made sure that top screw was perfectly parallel with the end of the block.
@MD-en3zm
@MD-en3zm Год назад
Interesting to see a fractal vise was created long before humans even defined or understood anything about fractals - just something that was seen as a solution to a problem and that worked well. Very nice restoration.
@dmac1259
@dmac1259 11 месяцев назад
The fractal vice did not come before the fractal. "Fractal" is shorthand for fractional dimension it's a mathematic term.
@suicidebylifestyle9267
@suicidebylifestyle9267 2 года назад
I've never wanted a tool more in my entire fucking life than right now...
@MikeBarbarossa
@MikeBarbarossa 2 года назад
You've been tempted by luscious tool porn
@lotusdev
@lotusdev 2 года назад
There's a Stephen J Lindsay who's made a modern version.
@lindybeige
@lindybeige 2 года назад
Stupendous! Amazing what they could make without robot lathes.
@Mucdaba
@Mucdaba 2 года назад
oh hey! i would have never expected to see lindybeige here!
@MrLaz0rz
@MrLaz0rz 2 года назад
You do have good taste, sir.
@adamwarlock8263
@adamwarlock8263 2 года назад
who let Lloyd in here? :P
@bedientvondeutschland1779
@bedientvondeutschland1779 2 года назад
A man is a poor persons robot.
@jonc8074
@jonc8074 2 года назад
@@bedientvondeutschland1779 analog control unit
@escanor9920
@escanor9920 5 месяцев назад
Beautiful restoration and craftsmaship !!! I really really wish I could learn to do the same with an experienced craftman like this !
@drakefallentine8351
@drakefallentine8351 Год назад
Very specialized and versatile. I can imagine this was developed for securing odd shaped castings for spot facing or drilling. Unique
@Chris-zm5mj
@Chris-zm5mj 2 года назад
The vice is testament to the tremendous skills of the designers and engineers of the day, making all those intricate parts without CAD. it is a piece of artwork. The guy doing the restoration is a skilled engineer and a dab hand had freehand scribble😂. Great vid
@excitedbox5705
@excitedbox5705 2 года назад
not that hard from a math stand point. In reality you could use a fly cutter to cut all those shapes. They are just circles of various sizes..
@Chris-zm5mj
@Chris-zm5mj 2 года назад
now days with CNC yeah though in those days it was done by an engineer who had skills though is clearly made from circular steel
@silivrengamer
@silivrengamer 2 года назад
We all these days have to be reminded from time to time that really what computers do are two things: make hard work faster, and make certain otherwise difficult physical skills accessible to more people because you no longer need gigantic hot forges, access to metal ore, and other sundry things to make these tools anymore.
@adeline4610
@adeline4610 2 года назад
Exactly. Very cool
@LiveFreeOrDieDH
@LiveFreeOrDieDH 2 года назад
They are literally circular sections, probably cut from bar stock. It has to be circular. Nothing else could work. The trick is in the precision machining of the sliding joints, rather than the design.
@markbeiser
@markbeiser 2 года назад
I didn't even know that kind of vice existed, now I feel like I can't live without one!
@guillermorosario4578
@guillermorosario4578 11 месяцев назад
Machining beast; also, hell of a braze and cast iron weld job. Jappaning came out nice too! 👍
@arzainc1
@arzainc1 Год назад
It is almost unthinkable that they were able to chaine such a complex mechanism at the time... no CNC...That piece should be in a museum.
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 Год назад
It sure looks too good to use it in the shop!
@andrewterry8661
@andrewterry8661 10 месяцев назад
If that vice is almost unthinkable the Antikythera mechanism didn't happen lol. If you haven't heard of the Antikythera mechanism then prepare yourself...
@merlinkater7756
@merlinkater7756 10 месяцев назад
@@andrewterry8661 There is also a great RU-vid series of someone reconstructing the Antikythera mechanism by hand. With ancient tools and techniques.
@Pinhead101
@Pinhead101 8 месяцев назад
Best zoomer comment from a boomer
@MachoCool558
@MachoCool558 2 года назад
This vise has literally made me weep. It is beautiful. If I had a tool like this in my life I would talk to it everyday. Thank you for restoring it and making it whole again, I feel our grandparents and great grandparents are relieved.
@dielaughing73
@dielaughing73 2 года назад
It's really one of the most beautiful bits of engineering I've ever seen
@bobw222
@bobw222 2 года назад
I'm surprised someone hasn't started making new ones of these. Very nice restoration!
@nissan300ztt
@nissan300ztt 2 года назад
Norgen makes them. But not like this. Very similar clamping idea though.
@k9m42
@k9m42 2 года назад
@@jamesmackes4531 capitalism is what allowed that advice to be created in the first place.
@kellydarrius
@kellydarrius 2 года назад
@@jamesmackes4531 Do you really think diluted capitalism is to blame for the lack of these? Mixed economies have largely prevailed, and these grips were patented in 1912 by an inventor from Austria-Hungary. These things probably costed a fortune and aren't all that necessary, sure they are neat, but it is a little silly to bring economic systems into this, unless you really just want to hate on mixed economies.
@tomsmith5216
@tomsmith5216 2 года назад
@@kellydarrius Came for a mechanical restoration video and a political debate broke out...
@andyd9900
@andyd9900 2 года назад
@@tomsmith5216 Weird I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out. And just what I need one more vice.
@Orbacron
@Orbacron Год назад
I hope you keep this one in the workshop.. You have earned it👍🏻
@stonkeng
@stonkeng 10 месяцев назад
love it, never heard of a Fractal Vice before. The advert at the end makes me want to buy one! Thanks for the video.
@kvsteve
@kvsteve 2 года назад
Good lord! What an amazing vice. Beautiful restoration. And it doesn't even stink of something buried in the yard for a week to look old. You are KING! (the, they, them)
@bryceforsyth8521
@bryceforsyth8521 2 года назад
(the, they, them) ?
@kvsteve
@kvsteve 2 года назад
@@bryceforsyth8521 Humor?
@bryceforsyth8521
@bryceforsyth8521 2 года назад
@@kvsteve Okay then. I still don't understand, but I'll not make any more fuss.
@blahfnblahfnblah
@blahfnblahfnblah 2 года назад
I absolutely love the little details and side humor of the video. Example: The riff on the Good Eats theme when you're putting the vise in the oven. Hilarious!
@atlys258
@atlys258 2 года назад
I know right! Hahaha I was cracking up 🤣🤣
@ClintCompton1
@ClintCompton1 Год назад
Love the 80's sitcom intro, nice work on the vise too.
@mattchagnon5620
@mattchagnon5620 Год назад
Your opening to the video is absolutely perfect
@MrTylero28
@MrTylero28 2 года назад
That tongue lick after the “I’m mentally stable” part had me rolling!!
@PeanutBUtter-px4gk
@PeanutBUtter-px4gk 2 года назад
This is the coolest piece of equipment I’ve ever seen, hands down. An absolute work of art.
@brandonwest8108
@brandonwest8108 2 года назад
Wow, you should definitely get out WAY more.. or at least watch some more RU-vid or something hahah, yeah it's a handy vise with a cool design..
@HoriaStanga
@HoriaStanga Месяц назад
Wow ! This is just simply AMAZING ! Respect for the man who conceive this art of work !👏👏👏👏
@philholman8520
@philholman8520 Год назад
I am in awe of the skill and craftsmanship. Beautiful! Thanks for sharing your video! 👍✌️🇬🇧
@DavidGuyton
@DavidGuyton 2 года назад
Now I need one.
@compt3ck
@compt3ck 2 года назад
Now fractal vice prices are going to skyrocket. Wish I bought 300 of them in 1928.
@stevepearce6689
@stevepearce6689 2 года назад
I don't know how I have survived until now without one
@LabGecko
@LabGecko 2 года назад
@@compt3ck Wonder what it'd cost to machine one.
@olliefoxx7165
@olliefoxx7165 2 года назад
Didn't know they existed before now. Didn't know I needed one till now. Well, wanted not needed
@ThatWorks
@ThatWorks 2 года назад
Amazing! You did such a killer job! Thank you for bringing this amazing tool back to life for us all to drool over!
@jesseshipley387
@jesseshipley387 2 года назад
This tool immediately made me think of Ilya's engravings
@johnschweinberg8085
@johnschweinberg8085 Год назад
As always Eric, another great job, and, pretty good (oily) humor too. Entertainment for the entire family!
@soupernutt9508
@soupernutt9508 Год назад
This vise blew my mind. I'd never heard of one for all these decades. They sell a few very lame versions of this (and very small ones go for about $3K). Love your sense of humor, too, Beautiful job with the vise and the video. And you explained Japaning, which I'd never heard-of either. But I think I've seen it.
@stelth4162
@stelth4162 2 года назад
You can keep your sitcoms. This is genuine entertainment here, as well as being educational, inspiring, and astonishing. And even humorous at times. Just the amount of handwork is unbelievable. The precision with which this vise was made, as well as the precision with which it was restored is hard to believe.
@mikehorvath9661
@mikehorvath9661 2 года назад
That “Good Eats” reference was BRILLIANT! As well was the rest of the restoration. Great job as always.
@kotadawndragon
@kotadawndragon 2 года назад
I knew I recognized that music from somewhere. It's been so long since I've seen that show.
@warrendourond7236
@warrendourond7236 Год назад
I don’t have the focus to watch the whole video without hitting the fast foreword a few times. I can’t imagine what it takes to spend a whole afternoon on such a project!
@MrKirby365
@MrKirby365 Год назад
The opening alone was so cool i've never seen one of those before and to watch it work was amazing
@nickmeriweather587
@nickmeriweather587 2 года назад
I went from not knowing these even existing to searching for one in exactly 36 minutes and 19 seconds. Awesome stuff!
@USAlien234
@USAlien234 2 года назад
Please let me know if you find one ! I want one so bad. I cant beleive they dont remake these ! Its an insanely useful looking tool.
@grimnir27
@grimnir27 2 года назад
Wasn't expecting to catch an old "Good Eats" reference. Highly appreciated!
@Crazy83519
@Crazy83519 2 года назад
I missed it. What was it?
@frikyouall
@frikyouall Год назад
Satisfying. This was worth being on my watch later list for a year.
@jeremywingate4950
@jeremywingate4950 11 месяцев назад
Still very amazed every single time I see this vise absolutly a wonderful work of art on top of the fact an amazing tool
@Waynesbusinesschanne
@Waynesbusinesschanne 2 года назад
Like everyone else I'm amazed at this vice. I have never even heard of this let alone seen one! Now of course I want 1
@traitorouskin7492
@traitorouskin7492 2 года назад
You wrote exactly what i was thinking! I dont want one, i need one.
@GMCiaramella
@GMCiaramella 2 года назад
Whoever designed that vise was an absolute genius!
@T..C..M
@T..C..M 2 года назад
Same guys that discovered DNA lol. Must've been a great trip!
@brownie3454
@brownie3454 2 года назад
a monkey with a wrench could make this...
@TheChzoronzon
@TheChzoronzon 2 года назад
@@brownie3454 stfu Les
@gavinward1758
@gavinward1758 2 года назад
@@brownie3454 Guarantee you ain't made shit
@stanleycarlock5624
@stanleycarlock5624 4 месяца назад
You are so clever! Outstanding job restoring this incredible vice! Excellently produced video!
@SethKotta
@SethKotta 2 года назад
I didn't even know this type of vise existed, but seeing the drill marks and the missing jar still hurt my feelings.
@brendanliamgill99
@brendanliamgill99 2 года назад
It's called being used and abused for 100 years. Ive seen 1 year old vices in worse condition in woodshop in high school because of people not watching where they drill
@nunyabisnass1141
@nunyabisnass1141 2 года назад
@@brendanliamgill99 my shop teacher made us put a piece of scrap pine under whatever we were drilling in the press, bevsuse its easy to feel the difference when breaking through the work, or see different colour waste. Its something i still do...because drill bits are expensive and a pain to sharpen.
@chaos.corner
@chaos.corner 2 года назад
@@nunyabisnass1141 It also helps avoid tear-out on the exit.
@nunyabisnass1141
@nunyabisnass1141 2 года назад
@@chaos.corner are we talking about drilling wood or anal?
@philstephes
@philstephes 2 года назад
@@nunyabisnass1141 what's the difference?
@benjaminvleugels5609
@benjaminvleugels5609 2 года назад
I can't get over how well designed this vise is it's so satisfying watching it grip things if vise porn exists this is it I'm very happy you restored this it definitely deserves to be back in its full glory
@T..C..M
@T..C..M 2 года назад
Vise porn does exist, but it's not what you think it is 🤮🤢
@djarcforceable
@djarcforceable Год назад
Whoever invented this style of vise was one heck of a brilliant engineer.
@titusdaniel
@titusdaniel 11 месяцев назад
Just goes to show, sometimes the best ideas don't thrive, not due to any fault of their own. I bet this was really expensive to manufacture back in the day. Probably still would be.
@susanbrearley437
@susanbrearley437 Год назад
Have one of these at work that never gets used, will definitely be making sure to try it in this future
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