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Rare Chopin - 8 pieces that are rarely preformed, (part 2) 

M. Arsenault
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The second video about Chopin's rare/obscure works. It's features his larger works. The next one with be about his pluri-instrumental works.
Part 1 (12 little pieces you may not know) : • Rare Chopin - 12 littl...
0:00 - Introduction
0:12 - *Allegro de concert, Op. 46
11:48 - *Bolero, Op. 19
19:00 - Casta Diva (**)
22:37 - *Hexaméron: Variation No.6
24:53 - Marche funèbre, Op.72 No.2
30:45 - *Tarantella, Op. 43
33:50 - Variations sur un air national Allemande
41:26 - Variations sur un air national de Moore (piano 4 hands)
*my favorites
**The Casta diva transcription is perhaps spurious. It was "reconstructed" by musicologist Wojciech Nowik in 1976, but it is unknown how much of the transcription is original as the manuscript is supposedly now kept in the private collection. I apologize for including it in this list.
Allegro de concert, Op. 46
It was originally intended to be the first movement of a third piano concerto. It was never orchestrated and was left in its solo form for publication.
"Chopin himself highly valued this work, since when he played it in manuscript for A. Hofman and asked him for his opinion and it naturally was most favorable. He answered in these words: Well this is precisely the first work I will perform in my first concert in Warsaw after my return to Poland."
- Marceli Antoni Szulc, Fryderyk Chopin i jego utwory muzyczne, Poznan 1873
Tarantella, Op. 43
"I'm sending you the Tarantella. Kindly copy it but first go to Schlesinger or to Troupenas and look at the Receuil of Rossini's songs published better by him, where the Tarantella is in A flat, I don't know whether it is written in 6/8 or 12/8. They write it one way and the other, but I would prefer that it
be like Rossini's. Also I ask you please instead of using repeat signs, please write out everything. And if you find the time incorrect in my manuscript, then don't give it, just copy it, and in addition copy it a third time for Wessel. I know this awful copying bores you, but I hope I won't write anything worse very soon. Also please look at the number of the last work, it is the number of the last
mazurkas, or of the waltz, which Paccini published, and thus give the Tarantella the next number." - From a letter from Chopin to Fontana in Paris, Nohant 27 Jul 1841

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@mckernan603
@mckernan603 Год назад
Such a privilege to follow along with his manuscript
@findelka1810
@findelka1810 Год назад
The Tarantella to which Chopin alludes in his letter is Rossini’s La danza.
@fryderyckchopin484
@fryderyckchopin484 Год назад
Timestamps: 0:12 Allegro de concerto op. 46 11:48 Bolero in C Major 19:00 Casta Diva 22:37 Hexameron: Variation VI 24:53 Marche Funèbre op. 72 no 2 30:45 Tarantelle 33:50 Variations sur un theme allemande 41:26 Variations sur un air national de Moore
@M.Arsenault
@M.Arsenault Год назад
I just realized my timestamps were messed up. Thanks for posting this!
@fryderyckchopin484
@fryderyckchopin484 Год назад
@@M.Arsenault you're welcome man
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji Год назад
Wow the composer timestamps his own music
@krzysztofjuszczak906
@krzysztofjuszczak906 Год назад
33:50 sounds to me like Schubert's Impromptu Op. 90 No. 4 edit: I've just listened to it again, and the resemblance is not as exact as I thought, but the ideas seem to be
@M.Arsenault
@M.Arsenault Год назад
The first part of this series seemed to be very well enjoyed (and recently enjoyed by the algorithm as well..). I hope everyone enjoys this one too! This channel has also rapidly reached 500 subscribers, which I'm very impressed by - Thanks!
@findelka1810
@findelka1810 Год назад
The Allegro de concert (which was originally planned to be the 1st part of a third piano concerto) was written with the intent that he’d play it at his return to Warsaw (probably when Poland would have been re-established as a country - as Chopin could not return because he refused to have a Russian passport). Chopin supposedly felt it by 1846 that this won’t happen and published it as a separate opus in its own, without any orchestral parts. It’s somewhat sad, but the music is so triumphant and redeeming- not any other of his works come close to it. There is an orchestral version of it on yt, Ingolf Wunder orchestrated it, it’s pretty epic!
Год назад
There's a reconstruction of the orchestral part of the Allegro de Concert ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xcn0KxqS20E.html
@arlettehellemans2117
@arlettehellemans2117 Год назад
Indeed, it sounds like a Pianoconcerto
@Xyriak
@Xyriak Год назад
Yes, I've heard the Wunder recording. Sounds great, and how it probably would have sounded like if the orchestral accompaniment had been added.
@_samuelfrancis_
@_samuelfrancis_ 7 месяцев назад
source?
@lucasramos253
@lucasramos253 Год назад
the letter that Chopin wrote about the Tarantella for Fontana is kinda cute, tho
@smalin
@smalin Год назад
I’m surprised the pianist missed the a-sharps in measures 17 and 34 of casts diva.
@jonbean6533
@jonbean6533 Год назад
No they didn’t. You are mistaken
@klop4228
@klop4228 Год назад
@@jonbean6533 at the end of bar 17 there's an A-sharp missing
@carlhopkinson
@carlhopkinson Год назад
Allegro de concerto: Brilliant and so inventive. This one just grows and grows on you with amazing unanticipated jewels of creativity forever unfolding along the trip.
@findelka1810
@findelka1810 Год назад
The apropos of the marche funèbre was probably the death of his little sister, Emilia in 1827.
@alexbizannes7501
@alexbizannes7501 Год назад
Absolutely love this first piece
@jraldne1
@jraldne1 Год назад
Well what do you know?....And what a wonderful discovery; that some of what I have heard so far, is, well...something of a departure from the Chopin; that of which we are all familiar, oh...and such a fabulous discovery....THANK YOU!!!...THANK YOU!!!...THANK YOU!!!!....
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji Год назад
There is an orchestration of the Tarantella by Glazunov in his 'Chopiniana'.
@jgamez5023
@jgamez5023 Год назад
This is wonderful, thank you !
@SCRIABINIST
@SCRIABINIST Год назад
I honestly think Allegro de Concert is one of Chopin's most underrated and best works, same with Prelude Op.45 and Impromptu Op.51 of that time frame. The only critique I have is that it's unpianistic at parts and I think a bit too virtuosic... but the themes are to die for!
@M.Arsenault
@M.Arsenault Год назад
I really should of included the two non-op.28 preludes in here. The Allegro is in fact one of my favorite Chopin piece, probably because of how lisztian it is.
@MusicHavenSG
@MusicHavenSG Год назад
Thanks for sharing some of his rare works!
@fortetwomusic
@fortetwomusic Год назад
This is a really neat series! You've also picked many of my favorite performances of the pieces.
@alexbizannes7501
@alexbizannes7501 Год назад
Another amazing work full of imagination
@tatjanamarinkovic43
@tatjanamarinkovic43 6 месяцев назад
This is a genuine little treasure. Thank you very much for both videos (1&2)!
@squalllionheart8850
@squalllionheart8850 Год назад
Could you upload the third part? Thank you so much for your incredible recopilation.
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji Год назад
34:27 quotation of the last climax from the 4th ballade
@douwemusic
@douwemusic Год назад
Definitely Rossini speaking through Chopin's Tarantella!
@mateuszkozieja7537
@mateuszkozieja7537 Год назад
Allegro de Concerto sometimes sounds to me similarly actually to Chopin piano concerto no 1
@mantictac
@mantictac Год назад
The Tarantella is one of my favourite Chopin pieces, regardless of popularity or musical complexity. In fact, I think it's one of the only works published during his lifetime where Chopin fully indulges himself in "fun" writing. Later of course, he criticized it as he tended to, but I really appreciate the authenticity. Same for the Bolero. It's a shame that these works especially are so uncommon.
@tarikeld11
@tarikeld11 Год назад
Hello there! I also loved the Tarantella, but I have to say I was a bit surprised about the style. Sounds like Beethoven or Schumann at some moments
@mantictac
@mantictac Год назад
@@tarikeld11 Oh hello! I wouldn't have known you replied if I didn't check back on this video, RU-vid is awful with notifications. I got that feeling too but I couldn't really describe why. Maybe it's a bit denser and more "structural" than the thin flowery style Chopin usually preferred.
@douwemusic
@douwemusic Год назад
@@tarikeld11 Rossini!!
@andresgunther
@andresgunther Год назад
Thank you for posting these. I only knew the "Tarantelle" (have it performed by Rubinstein). Being on the lookout for out of the mainstream works I truly appreciate this!
@arlettehellemans2117
@arlettehellemans2117 Год назад
I am 81, listened my whole to classical music and now all those "mainstream works" make me sick. The most recent CD's of Cyprien Katsaris are very original: Polonaises of others than Chopin/ works of composers around Chopin/Mozart "Don Giovanni" revisited. He knows what good music is like...
@robertwalker2052
@robertwalker2052 Год назад
How many codas can a piece have? The "Concerto" seemed to be made of them.
@gerardbedecarter
@gerardbedecarter Год назад
Most interesting.
@myronw6436
@myronw6436 Год назад
What about sonata no 1 in c minor?
@argi0774
@argi0774 Год назад
Relatively decent writing. Most composers are writing like they even can't hold a pen
@elias7748
@elias7748 Год назад
First time I’ve heard Chopins version of casts diva
@findelka1810
@findelka1810 Год назад
The boléro actually has a polonaise rhythm. 🙃
@PatrickLedwig
@PatrickLedwig Год назад
The two rhythms are very similar!
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji Год назад
Do check Greg Niemczuk's analysis on the Bolero please...you will come to know that Chopin never intended it to be a Polonaise, though the featured recording incorporates Polonaise-like rhythm.
@MidnightAvalon
@MidnightAvalon Год назад
I hope his flute piece is in part 3. Yes there is a Chopin flute piece.
@douwemusic
@douwemusic Год назад
Although it's been debated whether it's truly by Chopin
@Piflaser
@Piflaser Год назад
Why are this pieces not preformed? And who has given them their final form?
@arlettehellemans2117
@arlettehellemans2117 Год назад
Prachtinitiatief!
@underscoreellipsesdothyphe1563
At least its legible unlike Beethovens lol
@erika6651
@erika6651 Год назад
Why is every performance of the Bolero blasted through? This one wasn't as bad as others. I know the piece isn't one of his best, but it would probably sound better if it wasn't so damned rushed.
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