Rare Chopin - 12 little pieces you may not know (part 1) 

You should look up listz arrangement. I'm think it's more original in a way than Chopin's

Yeah it's almost funny to see how a Ultra great genius like Chopin just couldnt compose at a great level within certain musical forms that Bach mastered...

@Damiën Heemskerk Indeed. No wonder "Das Wohltemperierte Clavier" was the only score he took with him when travelling to Mallorca

I'm working on the second video - it will be a long one!

@@M.Arsenault subbed to you so I can't wait to see it in my inbox!

Good luck!

I think it might be the only time Chopin ever used a tremolo. Have fun learning it!

@@M.Arsenault ah tremolo! Was wondering what that was called! Thank you!

@@M.Arsenault Largo in e flat major is actually a harmonization of the old polish song "Boże, coś Polskę..."/"God, Thou who Poland...". It cannot be found on the Polish NIFC website under the name 'Largo'.

You're delusional.

Hehehe. Spuścizna.

Casta Diva is coming in part two

@@M.Arsenault that's nice

@@M.Arsenault by the way do you know where the Allegretto theme from Allegretto and Mazurka can be observed in Życzenie, as has been mentioned in the video?

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They are all based on the same polish folk song, the theme is not by Chopin. Liszt was at estate of the Polish Princess Carolyne zu Sayn-Wittgenstein at Woronince and wrote the suite with Ukrainian and Polish themes to commemorate his time there.

@@M.Arsenault i know, but the Alegretto is also based on a famous Polish theme as well, or just Zyczenie?

@@M.Arsenault i am saying that because there is the hipothesis that Liszt was in contact not with the "famous Polish tune", but with Chopin's song. There is the hypothesis it was published by a local publisher that did it anonymously, and Liszt was in contact with that score not knowing it was Chopin. But then, did that scorw also contained this Alegretto? In your video is says it accompanied Zyczenie's manuscript, is that right?

@@igorantony the allegretto was only published recently and the set of polish songs shortly after chopin's death. they are not related except for the theme used. I don't know where liszt first heard it, but it's certainly not with the allegretto.

@@M.Arsenault Hi Mr. Arsenault, thank you already for answering this to me. I have published a thesis and a part of the thesis deals with that question. So, if you don't mind my continue asking, on the video, the first piece, the "Allegretto and Mazurka" has the following written: "based on a Polish folk song that also appears in Zyczenie op.74 No.1. The manuscript was sold in 1974 to a private collection." So, I did not recognize any of Zyczenie in that Allegretto part. So, is it that the Polish tune that based Zyczenie is like a big tune filled with many different parts? Or is it some harmonic resemblance or something I am not seeing? Thank you so much already for your help!

They are likely just transcriptions of polish folk songs that, like you said, appear in other compositions like Liszt's Glanes de Woronince. Even though they are not original themes, it still does show what Chopin was interested in. You might also want to check out Roberto L. Pajares Alonso's website "historiadelamusica net" it is a great source for finding manuscripts and first editions of the works of Chopin and other composers as well. The fugue can be found there. Also I just realized you are the one who made the video about this piece. It's your video who inspired me to research Chopin's works more profoundly!

All the scores and some manuscripts are on IMSLP. The rest of the manuscripts where found on various sites on the internet.

Why is it a surprise. It's Chopin.

They are both based on the same polish folk song.

@@M.Arsenault It appears in Liszt's rarely heard violin sonata - more commonly known as Duo Concertante -the sonata being based on a Mazurka by Chopin and the folk song is often omitted by performers of this work.

I beg to differ. Already his polonaises written at the age of 7 tell that he’s a genius at the level of Mozart, who also composed proper and musically wholesome pieces already as a child. Very few prodigies of such level end up becoming noone.

@@findelka1810 Easely I can compose the little polonaise + a small Mozart menuet - but is't a genius and will not be. 1828 something like an angel came to Chopin and made him a genius. Nature is unfair, an angel never came to me.

@@kimsahl8555 Or maybe you just weren’t practicing 10 hours a day from infancy? Chopin was exposed to hours of classical music daily - his parents were both musicians. That’s got to alter ones brain development.

@@eugenelevin9809 Yes, if we have music around us it's development but we are not going to the genius, if I practicing 100 year I became very good but not a genius. Genius just take out a few, what I made as a boy 19 year was stupidity - Chopin same age composing some etudes op.10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@@kimsahl8555 I’m not saying 100 years, I’m saying from infancy. There’s a reason you learn to speak a language in a couple of years as a baby, but not if you start learning it at 7 yo.