@@JeffreyBue_imtxsmoke An important thing to remember is that Korolev was a god-tier manager of space stuff, and made sure shit got done without making stuff coffins (compared to some other stuff the soviets had cooking). He wasn't an engineer though, and never had an education in it.
@@JeffreyBue_imtxsmoke only for the one-man capsule to fail during descent or ascent to/from the moon...I think the cosmonauts selected for the moon got away with their lives.The russians have some memorable successes, but the moonshot was just a tad above their level, or for what they had available technologically. Plus the value of a human life is also a tad less there. Komarov was a prime example of how decisions were made back then.
Совковое дерьмо. Хватит восхищаться ими. Советские люди - это те, кто сейчас расчеловечивает запад, мечтает уничтожить вас потому что завидует, занимается геноцидом в Украине. Нет никакой русской культуры, русской науки, все худшее было украдено русскими у Западной цивилизации и у США. Хватит все сваливать на Сталина, Хрущева, Путина. Вам надо понять, что русские не хотят свободы и ненавидят вас. Гоните их из своих стран, пока не поздно....
Я тоже вижу большинство этих кадров первый раз. Казалось бы, я всё знаю об этой ракете, а испытываю волнение, глядя это кино. И гордость и горечь... Я застал эту ракету в цехе уже после закрытия программы. Колоссальное впечатление!
Man, I have to say, people in the 60's/70's were f'kin crazy. The level of technological advancement they brought in those two decades was off the charts. And all that with basic instruments. Computers were a joke then but it's marvelous to see what the human mind can achieve without much help from machines when truly focused. I hope we don't forget what we're capable of once we reach AI supremacy
it seems pretty certain we will, just as noone knows how to start a fire in the woods, or how to navigate by the stars (or anything other than a smartphone for that matter), or any of the other myriad skills that we have lost as technology has taken them over. AI is the ultimate usurpation, it will eventually take over most people's thinking. Maybe 99% will live there lives like internet vegetables, just stimulated by some virtual worlds that AI conjures up to entertain them.
Yes their computers were a joke but we wouldn't have our gaming super computer rigs today without the computer and chip technology that was first put into those spacecraft. We have to start somewhere
@@ph11p3540 i was only contemplating human artfulness. Of course chips are part of that too. I meant that today is definitely easier to do things since we have computers to do the huge calculus and data management, things in the past had to be done manually and still got to do marvels
Да, сейчас врядли кто-то с помощью простой логарифмической линейки и листочка бумаги сможет рассчитать орбиту до Луны или Марса. А ведь первые космические аппараты типа Луна-2 не имели тормозных или маневровых двигателей, то есть их надо было направить точно в цель с расстояния 384000 км. Я вас уверяю это совсем не так просто как кажется на первый взгляд.
Thanks for uploading and sharing this. I've seen a lot of N1 footage, but a lot of what is in this video is brand new to me. Saved to my "Space" playlist. Thanks again.
Совковое дерьмо. Хватит восхищаться ими. Советские люди - это те, кто сейчас расчеловечивает запад, мечтает уничтожить вас потому что завидует, занимается геноцидом в Украине. Нет никакой русской культуры, русской науки, все худшее было украдено русскими у Западной цивилизации и у США. Хватит все сваливать на Сталина, Хрущева, Путина. Вам надо понять, что русские не хотят свободы и ненавидят вас. Гоните их из своих стран, пока не поздно....
This is fantastic. Even as an American, I genuinely love the N-1 and wish they could have gotten at least one successful flight out of it. What the Soviet engineers came up with in spite of the limited resources they had to work with in comparison to Apollo was brilliant in its own way.
As a Russian, I am glad that the N-1 could not take off. Because the N-1 was originally built as a rocket that could deliver a huge nuclear warhead. Well, you know, all these games with space were to the detriment of the population. This was all done to the detriment of the standard of living of citizens.
@denfilm6005 The N-1 was not built for war. It was built to fly to the moon. It was far bigger than would ever be needed to carry a nuclear warhead, similar to the Saturns on the American side.
@@Nidhogg13 You apparently do not understand the structure of the Soviet state. There, initially everything was done for the army, and only then, if it was suitable, for the civilian industry. The N-1 was designed to deliver primarily military super-heavy cargo. Putting a man on the moon is just a cover. In the lunar race, the market economy defeated the planned economy.
@@denfilm6005 That is simply not true. If anything, it would be the other way around - it was for putting a man on the moon, but it was sold to the state as being for delivering super heavy military cargo. Sergei Korolev had a lot of trouble getting the Soviet government to back the project because of how much it would cost for its dubious military usefulness.
Совковое дерьмо. Хватит восхищаться ими. Советские люди - это те, кто сейчас расчеловечивает запад, мечтает уничтожить вас потому что завидует, занимается геноцидом в Украине. Нет никакой русской культуры, русской науки, все худшее было украдено русскими у Западной цивилизации и у США. Хватит все сваливать на Сталина, Хрущева, Путина. Вам надо понять, что русские не хотят свободы и ненавидят вас. Гоните их из своих стран, пока не поздно....
Fun Fact: the N1 a rocket designed in the 1960's in the soviet union with slide rules out preforms Starship/superheavy the biggest rocket ever made. and it doesn't outperform it by a small margin but almost by double.
The engines that came in from the cold....These Closed Cycle engines were developed for this rocket. They were something that the U.S thought impossible, or if not impossible, way to dangerous. The project was scrapped after the U'S landed on the moon. In the eighties they bought around 15 of these engines (which had been stored against orders to destroy them) from the Russians and used them to launch satellites in former ICBM's.
Совковое дерьмо. Хватит восхищаться ими. Советские люди - это те, кто сейчас расчеловечивает запад, мечтает уничтожить вас потому что завидует, занимается геноцидом в Украине. Нет никакой русской культуры, русской науки, все худшее было украдено русскими у Западной цивилизации и у США. Хватит все сваливать на Сталина, Хрущева, Путина. Вам надо понять, что русские не хотят свободы и ненавидят вас. Гоните их из своих стран, пока не поздно....
@@davidkavanagh189Работы по Н-1 продолжались после высадки на Луну ещё 5 лет. До 1974 года. Все участники работ были уверены, что очередной, 5-й пуск будет успешным. Были отработаны новые двигатели НК-33, которые имели огромный ресурс и все 100% отрабатывались на стенде. И вот когда почти всё было готово пуску, было принято решение закрыть программу. Увы...
I am at a loss to decide which structure is more impressive. The Apollo wirh its 400' tall LUT sitting its girder box base as it rides on a tracked vehicle or the N1 with its erector. Both are quite the sight.
Совковое дерьмо. Хватит восхищаться ими. Советские люди - это те, кто сейчас расчеловечивает запад, мечтает уничтожить вас потому что завидует, занимается геноцидом в Украине. Нет никакой русской культуры, русской науки, все худшее было украдено русскими у Западной цивилизации и у США. Хватит все сваливать на Сталина, Хрущева, Путина. Вам надо понять, что русские не хотят свободы и ненавидят вас. Гоните их из своих стран, пока не поздно....
Russia is a disgraced child who has pottied in its Sandbox and it's knickers have fallen down . Putin is a killer of innocent people men women children.
As someone who grew up in a family who all worked at NASA, I always wanted the N1 to be successful. I wish they would have been given the time to make the N-1 reliable. But the truth is, the N-1 was a complicated machine. I’m not sure they could have solved the plumbing, and I don’t know if they had the ground computing resources for difficult missions. Who knows. Cool rocket though. That said, no engine gimbaling, (differential thrust at that time had to be a major obstacle), no engine testing, constructing the rocket first then transporting it, the N-1 had a lot going against it. Ultimately the NASA method of testing and redundancy won out in the ‘60s and ‘70s. Imo, the Saturn V is still the coolest rocket ever made. I would have loved to ride that beast.
@@unownyoutuber9049 The N-1's engines could not gimbal as they were fixed engines. The N-1's rockets used differential thrust to control direction. Just look at the bell of the rocket, which was flush with the base of the N-1. That's enough to tell you it could not have gimbaled.
@@unownyoutuber9049 No worries. Which engine or rocket were you thinking of? The Soviets never had a chance really. They didn’t have the ground mainframes, (NASA had IBM 360s - the unsung hero of Apollo), they didn’t have the spacesuits NASA had. The Soviets LEM was more of like a diving bell. The N-1 was a very cool rocket, but I think even if they successfully launch with humans, I’m not sure they make it to the moon. That’s just speculation.
Концепция многодвигательности Королева, заложенная в «лунную» ракету с успехом показала себя в ракетах Илона Маска (даже если отказывал один из двигателей, это не сказывалось на выводе ракеты на орбиту]
It must have been an exciting time back then in the late 60s / early 70s. And where are we now 60 years later - not much further on... A complete generation without a real step ahead in space travel.
Sorry, what? The Shuttle? Numerous Russian launches and space stations. The ISS space station. Unmanned missions to Mars, flying a robot helicopter on another planet? Deep Space 1. Ion drives. The turnover of low earth orbit to commercial development as government invents another industry. The beginnings of warp drive.
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with a lot of engines in a single sentence. In fact such an approach makes it easier to maintain the vehicle. You run into problems when your engines suck and literally can't be tested before being used, and your vector is controlled by thrust differential rather than gimbaling. But mainly if the engines suck and can't be tested. That doomed all four N1 flights.
@@VEC7ORlt Sure, that's true enough. But it's worth underscoring that both solutions-many small engines or a few big engines-should work just fine, all else being equal. The problem remains that the N1's engines were designed to work exactly once and so they couldn't be tested before launch. Combine that with poor manufacturing standards and the result is really kind of obvious in hindsight.
This is far beyond an awesome video! I never imagined the scale of the rocket as it is filmed here! I knew it was big, but just how big... WOW! It's a shame that Sergei Korolev's dream was never fully realized. The effort to put together something like the N1 is so off the scale, especially when one puts it in the context of the Soviet centralized hierarchy! What a man he must have been to take it as far as he did! I feel sad for him and all who put every fiber of their being into making this baby go! 00:56 - You gotta love a guy in the Soviet Rocket Service wearing a Hawaiian shirt to work!
Wow, that whole model setup at 8:13 is super cool! I wonder if they just built it to demonstrate everything to the higher ups or if it was actually used for planning and engineering purposes.
A little comparison: N-1 4 starts, 4 disasters, 0 successful starts Staurn V 13 starts, 0 disasters, 13 successful starts Is there anything else that needs to be added?
по факелу видно на сколько эффективна была такая схема расположения двигателей, уверен еслиб королев не умер то он бы добавил несколько сквозных отверстий на корпусе ведущих к нижний части, там где не стояли двигатели и где образовывались фатальные скачки давления
Управление одной только тягой двигателей слишком рискованная идея даже сегодня. У НАСА на Старшипе двигатели отклоняются, и то Маск лишь с 4 раза запустил эту хрень в каком-то виде
@@shoora813NASA имеет отношение к старшипу только в рамках лунной программы, в остальном это частная разработка. И да, успешно 1 ступень отработала во 2 полëте. В 3 успешно всë, что касается выхода в космос. В четвëртом успешная посадка ускорителя на воду и +-успешная посадка подгоревшего корабля.
I would like to see the training films of cosmonauts entering and descending from the LK. Years ago, A&E’s “Time Machine” program showed a short clip of a fully-suited cosmonaut descending the LK ladder. THAT would be interesting and would complement this excellent video.
The N-1 used a flame trench design with three chutes. Interesting. The N-1 was Korolev's biggest blunder. He tried to upstage von Braun's series stage Saturn V by building the series stage N-1, but with inferior engine technology. Korolev had a perfectly fine parallel stage launch vehicle in the R-7 and its upgraded version, the Soyuz launch vehicle. He could have developed an enlarged version of the Soyuz using the engines built for the N-1 with enough payload capability to put two cosmonauts on the lunar surface in 1968 or 1969.
All because of Valentin Glushko, who (although he was the most outstanding Soviet rocket engine expert) turned out to be an informer and, when the secret police interrogated him, denounced the future head of the space program, his friend Korolyev, who was sentenced to 10 years in a hard labor camp for this reason. Korolyev, as the chief designer of the N-1, could not, for reasons of honor, entrust the construction of the main engines of the N-1 first stage to this snitch. The engines were designed by Kuznetsov - an outstanding specialist, but in jet engines, not rocket ones... The American Saturn V had 5 engines in the first stage, Kuznetsov could not create such gigantic engines - that's why the first stage of the N-1 had 30 (!) of them. Thirty - which means at least 6 times more chance of failure. And that was the nail in the coffin of the Soviet lunar program. In none of the N-1 flights did the first stage with 30 engines operated properly. The primary cause of this huge (as a whole program) disaster was Glushko's lack of moral backbone and weakness of character. A typical representative of the Soviet elite of the nation.
As far as I understand it, the N1 was made cheaper and faster than the Saturn V. It was a brilliant piece of engineering. It’s a shame it fell just short of its mission.
Just short is a bit of an understatement, but in my opinion, I think they made it too complicated with their technology of the time. Also, I saw somebody else compared this to SpaceX(most likely starship), but I'm gonna go out and say that these 2 engine beasts are no where near the same, for example Starship has been able to develop alot fast and rapidly when compared to the N1, another thing is that starship actually kept developing to complete the mission it was given on flight 1 where as the N1 was dropped after (idk like 3 or 4) unsuccessful test flights.
Two of them blasted off during launch because of unpredictable vibrations. They could have made tests, they surely could have fixed it, but thew saw the race is lost, and dropped the project. Sad thing, we could have got a new type of rocket. The Starship of SpaceX is a similar solution to N1.
What they lacked was resources to do extensive ground tests of engines, control systems, etc. Korolev had to battle Politburo for resources, Mishin didn't have his skills so getting resources was even more difficult. There were those in Politburo debating among themselves about a moon mission. James Harford in his about Korolev, one of the former Soviet engineers said when Kennedy announced a race to the moon, Soviets either get into the race or not. They did neither.
@@allanbradshaw3498 The lander was a one-man ship, 2 men down to the surface was off the table, they had such tight margins. NASA's margins were quite a bit broader.
Totally agree. A beautiful machine. If it had undergone more testing i.e. static fire engine tests, and development, it would have had incredible potential. A great pity.
Klasse Bilder und tolle Leistung Russland! Eure Wissenschaftler und Ingenieure haben schon echt tolle Maschinen gebaut. In der Luft- und Raumfahrtechnik macht euch keiner etwas vor. Schön, dass IHR die Guten seid!
@@Paul1958R They actually did. RD-170 family is one of two (along with Merlin) most powerful and reliable engines on Earth. But it is much easier and more reliable to control direction of thrust with gimbal, than balancing thrust of multiple engines by throttling opposite engine
The Soviets could never have landed an cosmonaut on the Moon because they did not have the instantaneous computing capability that the Apollo had aboard. By the time a radar signal left a descending capsule at the Moon's surface, reached a fast computer in the USSR, solved the orbital equations and returned an answer to the Soviet capsule, the velocity and position of the capsule would be completely different. Landing would be only a matter of luck.
Yup, and it was a one-man lander too. It was a desperate attempt to beat the Americans, but they always lagged behind. So they focused more on space stations.
The lack of computation capability was not a problem. They had Argon family, I guess Argon 11S was for the lander. Of course it was also problematic, as about every part of the N1 program.
The Soviets could never successfully synchronize all 30 first stage engines of the N1 rocket due to inadequate static testing. All 4 launches were failures and the last one in November 1972 was shortly before the last Apollo mission. The death of Korolev in 1966 was a big setback. SpaceX Starship first stage (Super Heavy) looks a lot like the N1. N1 had 6 inner engines surrounded by 24 in the outer ring. Super Heavy had 20 engines in the outer ring, 10 in the middle ring and 3 in the inner ring.
It sure was an impressive looking beast. It’s a pity they never managed to get it to work, if the Soviets had managed to reach the Moon then the US might have reconsidered giving up on Apollo
not sure what you're saying. In a way the idea has lived on because SpaceX pursued it. Now we have a successful flight with 33 engines at launch using full flow staged combustion engines on the 4th try. The engines didn't fail, rather they performed nominally throughout the flight.
it's also very clear that photography technology of Soviet Union was far behind the US. Since the start of Space race, we've seen excellent footages from US missions. But I've never seen such good images/videos from USSR.
скачки давления в нижней части между боковыми и ценральными двигателями из за того что двигатели тогда работали не достаточно ровно, что то типа резонанса скачков, тогда это невозможно было предвидеть, то есть её иновационная схема воздушного клина и стала проблемой
Wow, great footage. I thought I saw most of the N1 material, but there's more. thx @6:58 Even a proof there were two N1s on the launch platform at one moment. Even thought today the Russians behave like the biggest *ssholes, they should at least have had one successful launch of the N1 with a lunar flyby....
Some of the pictures show two side by side. Surely you would not launch with another one only a few hundred metres away? An accident with one could take out the other.
If Korolev did not die in 1966 today space would look diffent,USSR would land on the moon and then USSR and USA would compete for colonization there ,maybe we would have people on Mars by now
Не знаю. У меня с самого начала, когда я только увидел в каком-то источнике изображение этой ракеты, в голове возникла мысль что это полететь не может. Что это Царь-ракета (по аналогии с Царь-пушкой и Царь-колоколом). Это апофеоз советской монструозности в ущерб здравому смыслу и тонкому мышлению. Большевистский молот, закономерно выродившийся в кувалду имени пригожина. Можно конечно говорить, что эта конструкция "опередила время", ну так не надо время опережать-то. Время ухватится сзади и оставит без штанов...
Великая страна, великие дела, великие люди и великие победы. Как ничтожен по сравнению со всем этим сейчас пу, со своими потугами, воровством и постоянным враньём....
Why does documentary footage of the Soviet space program always look like it was shot by one guy with a wind-up 8mm home movie camera when NASA's is gorgeous stuff filmed in high definition from multiple angles? You'd almost think they knew they were going to have to burn it all anyway and didn't want to bother putting any effort into it.
