For Valentines my local garden center handed out baby pink princesses as a gift to everyone who bought something there. Tbf they were tiiiiny, like they had two leafs with a third one barely coming out, but they where free and the variegation looked quite nice on most of them. Stark contrast to the prices during covid!
honestly i'm so out of touch with the whole philodendron craze, but last fall i got a philodendron white knight for super cheap and i literally almost screamed because i didn't realize that they would ever actually come down in price, my dream plant imo, it's just so pretty to me
I just bought one yesterday for a maybe double the price of a more common philodendron, it was $35 where a similar sized common philo would be $15 ish. But it hasn't even been sold locally until recently. So happy to have found one without dealing with shipping and high prices.
Would love to see chocco reds here. We have affordable gloriosum, silver clouds, sodoroi, brandtianum and clarinervium in Australia. The prices I paid before they came out make me almost cry
I'm not into chasing expensive trendy plants. I'm 52. So I've seen the trends come and go. So, I collect what works for the idiosyncratic light of my 5 bedroom house, which has all sorts of lightscapes and management issues. I mostly collect plants that can give me their best green, as I want emotional well-being first and foremost. My latest acquisition is a cheap Boston Fern from Costco. It was 12 bucks. But in the 70's of my childhood, it was an expensive plant that was the equivalent of 100 dollars.
It’s weird you say that about the flordia ghost, mines grows like a damn weed! Haha it’s pushing out a new leaf before the other is hardened. They’re HEAVY FEEDERS tho.
In Poland Monstera Obliqua just landed in garden center Obi. The real Obliqua Peru, no idea how it survives in store, but it's in 12 cm pot and it costs 259PLN, which is ~60 $.
For the Florida ghost, I think this is offered seasonal because they can get really dramatic. When it gets cooler around 40°F, the leaves gets cold damaged quickly especially when you don't have a controlled environment like me.
I am in Germany and have picked up so many former pricey plants here at garden centres. P. Melano was 30 euros, gloriosum from 20 euros for a smaller plant. PPP was 8 euros with a nice amount of pink and yesterday I found monstera albo variegata for 15 euros in my local hardware store. 2-3 very nice variegated leaves. I picked up 3 of them.
In the northeast USA, Alocasia Black Velvet and P. Pink Princess are now available not only at plant shops but also at hardware stores (Home Depot, Lowes) and many high-volume retailers (Walmart). They go for $12 to 18 USD for a 5-inch pot.
The pink philodendron in Kansas for like a 6in pot is close to 200$ at my local nursery, which a new plant. (Last year they didn't have them.) I got mine in a 4in pot for 130$ off etsy still a expensive plant. It blows my mind you can get it for 12$ in UK and you have found them cheaper. I might go try to find a cheaper one now. Deff the Alocasia black. I have a sliver and dragon scale and they are my fav plants.
This week for mother's day Home Depot got a ton of decent sized PPP in, however they were extremely low in color and the 60 dollar price tag was not worth it. I was sad not to find something pretty.
I live in thailand and the florida ghost here all turns green no one talks about them anymore, I find its not actually about light but heat, the heat makes them go green. So i think where you are they would have been growing white leaves in the winter and then comes spring they do that less and less so thats why you see them being released then? unrelated but interestingly its the complete opposite for the paraiso verde where the leaves come out green in colder temps, you can never never find a green one here in thailand. Temps is a real factor i believe more well known with anthurium bracts (mod leaves), where the colours are much nicer in colder temps. Just to make a point.
I have a white wizard philidendron in my fish tank plant. It is super happy also have some velvet philodendron as a rescue plant in my high light tanks. If someone is weary of philidendron do it hydroponic take the guessing game out.
PPP is like €7.5 for a mini one with pink on. Larger ones anything between €7-20 maybe more if really big. My MIL bought a decent sized solid "black" PPP for maybe €11 during the autumn (there were pinker ones in the store). Seasonal TC probably has something to do with being finicky other times of the year, when being transferred out of TC, if it works better in spring vs other tiems of the year. Unless they all are TC:ed by the same company and it's based on their schedule.
About the pink princess: We have them here in Germany in some Garden Centers for abaout 5 Euros (Baby plants). I got one of these and it has a nice amount of variegation But it really depends on every plant. The florida ghosts are around 20 Euros for these little TC babys 😊
On Black Friday I got a really nice Pink Princess from my local nursery for $20. Smallish, but a solid medium variegation. I was at that same nursery the other day and they had albo syngonium for really cheap. Like $15. Those were the super popular plant when I started collecting. (I'm in the Pacfic Northwest in the US)
I live in Singapore so I understand the market is different here. Burle Marx variegated has become desperately cheap here. I bought a 30cm tall bush for like SGD25 9 months back. Even burle Marx mint cuttings are getting to upper two digits in SGD
Great video. Just stumbled upon your channel and you are by far the best on RU-vid. Clear and straight to the point. No cats walking into filming. Or telling the camera you're tired and flusted or fumbling over names or technical terms. Or random clips from pop culture crudely thrown in. Personal but with a science-based approach makes you perfect for someone who's been growing for a long time, which is why I have become an instant fan.
It's honestly been really fun to watch the covid rare plant craze from the outside. I already had a lot of plants when it happened but I'd never cared about rarity, I only ever cared whether or not I liked the look of it and it would be able to grow in my home. At some point our garden centres in the NL started having "rare plant" tables with a few specimens of some very expensive plants, and now the same ones are in TC and are just mixed in with everything else. Personally I like this development because it means there's more cool plants for me to choose from! Just the other day I spotted an Alocasia jacklyn in a garden centre for 25€ (which is still quite a lot for a garden centre plant, but not exorbitant) and I think I need to go and get it :)
I'm also from the Netherlands! Can you recommend garden centres or plant shops? I live in the east and I would love to visit the west and go on a plant shop/garden centre spree there. Here in the east we only have a Intratuin :)
@@lukahakstege1645 My 2 go-to are the Intratuin near Amsterdam Amstel (not sure if different locations have different plants, but they had a great selection as of last week) and Tuincentrum Osdorp (and both have soe more special plants that the other doesn't have) :) Het Oosten can also be nice but I haven't been in a while so I don't know their current situation. Veel shopplezier ;)
I feel the same way too. I started this hobby in 2018 and had accumulated a few plants before covid. The rare plant craze felt silly then, and now in retrospective , it was borderline insanity. I was visiting the Netherlands last summer. You guys have some excellent plant shops with fantastic collections there. Lucky you.
A 4-5 leaf Thai Constellation is 40-50€ at Stekjesbrief and they grow like crazy. Mine got huge so huge so quickly and they just grow so perfect that I feel like it has been genmanipulated.
they literally have monstera obliqua perus in garden centers over here now for 150€. imagine time travelling back to 2020 and telling someone that, they would lose their mind. im so glad so many plants are getting more accessible now. a ppp has always been my dream plant and now i can surround myself with them without breaking the bank. its nice
Here in the midwest of the United States I've seen Pink Princess from Wild Interiors at big box stores like Walmart. The variegation on them has looked pretty bad as well as their general condition. Many seem to be reverting and I don't even feel justified paying $25 USD for them. I recently saw a Jungle Boogie at Home Depot mislabeled as a Ring of Fire at the Home Improvement store Home Depot here in the midwest.
I second this, am also in the Midwest and unless I find a two foot tall mature plant with continuous pink variegation, I probably won't buy one. The variegation is too random and they revert so easily
I have a garden center in my area that has blown my mind. I got a billietiae for 3.99$ ..I got my Florida ghost for 30.00$ , it I'd very large . I got my ring of fire varagated for 3.99$ . From that garden center I got my Thai constitution ,a large plant for 250.00 , it has fenstration on some leaf already. I live in Canada 🇨🇦.
Id love another one of these, speaking of rare plants, I don't think I've heard you speak of the philodendron warszewiczii at all? What are your thoughts on it?
Unless they're genuinely difficult to grow, rare plants will cease to be rare once the demand is there. Unlike other markets, plants can be propagated so scarcity can be overcome.
It's funny to see plants that used to be so hard to find in garden centers and think back on it. I'm from the Netherlands, and the garden center I normally visit, I saw the Anthurium Queremalense, Monstera Esqueleto, Philodendron Patriciae, Maranta NOID & Silver band etc. Pretty spectacular! But also that I saw Spiritus Sancti's sold for a 10th of the prices I used to see them for
When I was young a regular monstera of a decent size would be hundreds, I picked one up last year for £20 🤣 (and it had about five plants in a single pot I might add!)
Thai's online here at the moment (Canada) hitting some smaller plant shops and online are down to about 80-90 cdn, its gone down at least 150 to 200 cdn in the last year im so happy they are becoming a little more obtainable ^^
The Thai, the size you mentioned, here in the northwest US will still cost you $200 in specialty plant shops and I have yet to see a El Choco Red even in specialty shops. Except for the pink Princess Maranta, and the Alocasia, none of the plants you listed are available in garden centers or regular plant shops. This is why I generally have to order online.
That is, for the most part, true in the Midwest too. I paid $80 for a teeny, weeny Thai that froze in transit, right before Christmas. I got a refund, but I am not surprised it didn't make it; it was even smaller than I thought (I paid for a heat pack, btw). I have two garden centers near my home that have specialty plant shops inside the stores, and they often surprise me with their inventory. I found most of my uncommon Alocasia and my verrucosum at them, but never have I seen a Thai at either store; I would be all over that if they did.
Yes!!! I just got a smaller sized one from ecuagenera for $130 and I thought that was a great price. I freaked out for a second when she said that it should be $25 😂
I didn’t see the thrill of the PP until I saw it in person, and was priced at $30😂 it’s not my favourite but does have some nice colour. I’m in Australia so plant prices here have dropped considerably
Can I ask in which garden center there are Thai for £25? I might even travel for £25 😂 I haven't seen anything even really small under £50 (unless going private for unrooted cuttings). I do like the format though and would like to see more videos like this, just most prices don't really match garden centers in my area (Midlands/Leicestershire) or am I visiting wrong garden centers? If anyone knows Garden Centers in Midlands that will offer Thai Constellation or Florida Ghost in those prices please share :D
I'm surprised at these prices as well, I'm in the North West (where I believe Kaylee also is) and I very much want to visit this garden centre with cheap thais and ghosts, haha.
@@wolfiegg There's no shortage of these plants. The growers just hold them back to inflate prices. They could infest the market with them if they wanted. Sometimes we get a lucky Thai Constellation at Walmart for $15
@@thedivide3688 oh yeah, I know that. But Garden centres around here are still selling at inflated prices as far as I can see, I'm based near Kaylee though, so very interested in where she saw them
Here in the us the white princess has pink on petioles, white knight and white wizard, one has all green petioles and one has white on petioles, I can never remember which is which. 😂🤷🏻♀️
I find it so funny. I've been looking for a Florida Ghost the whole last year. Never saw one, ever. Now Kaylee Ellen makes a video, saying it's in garden centers now. So I went to my garden center and *instantly found one* lmao 😂 Kaylee is amazing 😅 And it was only 30€ for a fairly big plant!
I haven’t noticed seasonal Florida ghost in the US. But for the UK I would guess it has to do with light. Since Florida ghost has a brighter white variegation when there’s more light they wait to sell until there’s more sun (Spring).
Briliiant video! I just picked up a very large 6 leaf Thai for £120 in my local Blue Diamond garden centre. She's about 4ft tall and her newest leaf is 74x50cm. Was too good to pass up.
What's happening with crystalinum? I've seen quite a few plants for sale saying they're different sport of crystalinum like "platinum". I know some shops like giving nicknames but these were like 3x the cost of a crystalinum!
I love Thai cons, but they're just expensive even here in Manila (15-20USD for about 12 inch plants). The rest of the Philo and Alocasia can be had for about 3USD PPP, Alocasia B Velvet 1USD, B Marx 1-2USD. I guess it's really tough to propagte these TCs
I have two PPP from my local grocery store. Both were ~$25. The first had the most variegation there, but that still wasn't much. I didn't know anything about checking for stability with variegation through the stem and bought it. There's maybe a speck of pink per leaf. The second one I just bought a month ago. The stem is candy-cane striped in pink, all the leaves look like they've had pink paint spattered on them. The newest leaf is nearly half pink one one side with the other half having spattered pink spots. It's gorgeous!! The first one I probably won't be keeping much longer.
Sry to say but in Austria some plants were only available at the "hype", verucosum small for 85 €... Years later, this year I bought my gloriosum for 9.90 (medium)... Fun fact one box box shop did have a horrible mealy infestation, plowmani full of them still 139€,my ghost, free of pests on clearance for 17,50 (large), just needed a pole... 🍀
I think the E. Pinnatum Marble had a even bigger price decline than the albo. Went to a plant market last spring, and small ones were like 200€-ish there, and even more expensive online. And not even a year later you can find them for 30€.
My daughter and I found a highly variegated pink princess at Walmart for 25 dollars. Some of them were hardly variegated, we were lucky to find a good one. Funny enough we haven't seen them anywhere not even at our plant nurseries but yep...Walmart had one
I have 2 PPPs from my local grocery store. Both had several pups, but only 1 has really good variegation. I love them both but 1 more than the other. 🤫
I live in eastern Washington, U.S. and all of the aroids mentioned in this video are still going for "rare" prices here. I baby PPP (2-3" pot) in my garden center was $40 or $50 last I saw, and I recently saw a small, 3-4 leaf baby Thai (12-14" tall) for about $215. The LL Maranta is pretty common, those go for about $20 for a full pot, and the alocasias are also common and go for $15-20. The other plants would only be found in our local plant shop maybe, and they're clinging to covid prices as hard as they can. They had Monstera Albos within the past year or so priced at around $550 for a single vine plant at about the average maturity you'd find a regular Monstera for in garden centers.
$500 for a 2 leaf cutting of silver band is INSANE! I just got a MASSIVE FULL hanging basket for $20 at Lowe's lol. Literally it's insane how full and huge it is! Crazy
Oh i hear ya chicky i would love a Florida ghost room too and yes I notice in spring usually is when they come out for the year , I had a sweet young one I grew from a cutting and someone stole it & my Hoya compacta right off my private deck while I had them out enjoying the sunshine 🌞 I was devastated 😢but fingers crossed I find one in 🇨🇦🪴👍this growing season cause I truly love it I got my compacta replaced long ago tho . Cheers have a great weekend 💚🌱🌿
I got a 4 inch pot with two pink princess and a ceramic cover pot for 13 CAD a few weeks ago. I figured for that price, if the plant is 💩 I only spent 13 on a fairly nice pot 🤣
I got my Pink Princess for £11.50, it was pretty small plant, I think 4 or 5 smallish leaves, variegation not too bad, even some small chunks of full pink.
It's fantastic! I got a nice HUGE ppp for 15CAD, it was a 12in pot and around 50cm tall on sale! I also got a Florida ghost with around 10 leaves for 30CAD.
How interesting you consider Alocasia Black velvet and silver dragon rare! While really pretty, we have them in our shop all the time and they are really not very expensive.
I've grown out 8 TC Thais from gel. I have another 4 coming along with an Aurea and Mint. I genuinely enjoy growing out TC stuff. 100% success rate from Thais.
I have 2 PPP, one I bought very small from a nursery for $80 last year. I bought my second at Walmart which has 3 half-moon leaves, it's quite large for a PPP, and only paid $15 for it. The variegation on the Walmart plant is much better than the nursery plant.
I had wanted a pink princess for years, bought a cutting in 2020 about £60 and killed it. But about a year ago bought 5 tissue cultured pink princess from a plant shop here in Sheffield for about £5 each, all of them are going strong but the variegation isn’t great on most of them. I personally don’t mind too much as I love the dark leaves and growth pattern on pink princess so I don’t mind but I think they will improve, they are still small. I must say the ones I gave at home I water with fish tank water are looking nicer then the one I keep at work with food and water.
i would love if you made more like this, plus i got myself a awesome big albo variegata monstara this Friday , i found it in my local plantcenter danmark for 800 dkk / 116 usd/ 107 euro , its almost 170cm high
I picked up a few PPP from Home Depot (US-Forida). You are correct about the variegation. All from TC, most have very few flecks of pink, 2 in a pot $20, 6" pot, 5-8 leaves. I look all over, very rarely do I find one with truly stunning variegation. I got one last with Great marbled variagation, but that was 1 in probably 300 I've seen.
The PPP that are out right now at my local to me shop in the midwest USA are an interesting mix of variegation. One plant will have half moons and the other (they have 2 per 6 inch pot) will only have speckling.
When I started my plant journey, I picked up a PPP for $25 - 4" pot, ish? Two years later, in covid, I put a single leaf node on a local plant auction site and sold it for $125. It was nutters.
Grow a Pink Princess in bright light, slowly acclimated to get 2 - 3 hours of direct sunlight...the stems grow dense, & the plants starts putting out big leaves pretty quick.
I randomly went to some garden centers in the UK and you guys have got us beat. Our garden centers SUCK. You guys get so much variety and many rare plants (well, rare to us). Which plants you mean when you mention that the US has more availability of some plants over the UK? I'm really curious about which ones
Re Florida ghost: sell it during optimal growing conditions to the everyday punter and then be ready during the next year when the buyers come back to buy again as they lost their plant during the winter because they were unable to provide the needed conditions..
I just got a PPP for about $30 but it's HUGE, the leaves are nearly as big as my head. Which is the only reason I bought it. I feel like the Costa ones Don't have great coloring, at least from what I've seen out
a good way to have a nice bushy alocasia is to have multiple plants in a pot. my black velvet alocasia i bought dying from root rot and it had a BUNCH of corms in the soil. i grew all of them out in sphagnum boxes and now all of them except one are in a single pot and it looks insanely beautiful. ALSO, rotate them!
Could Florida Ghost be seasonal because you get whiter leaves in the sun, and it's sunny in the spring and summer? Therefore the leaves are more brilliant and the price goes up? Complete guess, just thinking out loud.
pink princess are on supermarkets here in usa and most of them have minimal pink color, i did found one with great color but it was the only one on the rack with that variegation
Same, here in Washington state. You can find them at Walmart (for $20-30) and such, but the amount of variegation is pathetic, so I have not purchased one.
I’m sad we don’t have weekly videos. I know it’s a pain to plan and edit but seriously wouldn’t mind minimally edited go pro videos where you just talk about how you don’t like your broom as you sweep.
Thai constellations in the US are weirdly priced. You can get a single tissue culture online that is not mature enough yet and will die soon for like 50 dollars, and sellers are still keeping cuttings at Albo prices.
Thank you for tell about all the beautiful plant I put up a pink princess two week ago I was shocked I pay 20 for it I wi Ll look for some of the beautiful plant s you show here my pink princess
