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Rasheed Wallace's career-long beef with NBA referees was iconic 

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Rasheed Wallace may have been extremely difficult (and annoying) for NBA referees to officiate, yet it would be insufficient to leave it at that. Wallace overreacted sometimes and complained plenty, but he wasn't merely a whiner.
Fair or not, Sheed detected, and sought to call out, bias among the NBA's refs. He's far from the only person to suggest that refs get emotional, play favorites, or bring ulterior motives to the court. He is, however, one of the players to make that point on the court. He made it consistently and boldly, and in a way that drew extra ire from the very refs he accused of targeting him.
In short, this was a crusade that turned a typically-tense relationship into outright beef. While he played, it was Sheed vs. Basically Every Ref. And even in retirement, Wallace is not done fighting that battle.
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@SecretBaseSBN
@SecretBaseSBN 3 года назад
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@footballchamp3873
@footballchamp3873 3 года назад
A bomb shelter?
@akauf2282
@akauf2282 3 года назад
footballchamp 3 Rasheed Wallace’s hideout to study the refs
@mario2montano
@mario2montano 3 года назад
CAN YOU PLEASE DO A BEEF HISTORY OF MARCUS ALLEN VS AL DAVIS!
@samwert2316
@samwert2316 3 года назад
Can't wait man keep the awesome content coming guys!!!
@thechef.
@thechef. 3 года назад
super excited
@ChiseledAdonis
@ChiseledAdonis 3 года назад
Legend has it at Sheed's funeral NBA refs will be in attendance to tech him up one last time
@masondarden2423
@masondarden2423 3 года назад
You watch this too dang
@joshlewis575
@joshlewis575 3 года назад
This is comedic gold. Kudos to u sir 👏
@RGTitan901
@RGTitan901 3 года назад
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@TheOriginalFrankMatthews
@TheOriginalFrankMatthews 3 года назад
That was so funny I forgot to laugh
@VAllure_Moderator
@VAllure_Moderator 3 года назад
This man got the Shadow Clone Jutsu showing up in these random videos for real
@johncampbell2845
@johncampbell2845 3 года назад
Rasheed shouting "ball don't lie" is so iconic, just feels wrong when anyone else does it
@noah_that_bills_fan1613
@noah_that_bills_fan1613 3 года назад
Yea
@noah_that_bills_fan1613
@noah_that_bills_fan1613 3 года назад
Also 69 likes
@SlicingDicingGamingENT
@SlicingDicingGamingENT 3 года назад
Me and my uncle say ball don't lie when we're watching games and someone misses a free throw lol
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 3 года назад
Aside when AI does it, literally the actual original player for that phrase being brought in the Nba.
@UpsidePotential
@UpsidePotential 3 года назад
he got a tech for saying "ball dont lie" too
@taylordunekacke4418
@taylordunekacke4418 3 года назад
Me in 2000: Wallace is a crybaby! Me in 2020: Wallace was right the whole time!
@dbag3345
@dbag3345 3 года назад
You're whack for thinking that in 2000
@dannycomellas
@dannycomellas 3 года назад
@@dbag3345 I thought the same thing. I didn't watch Sheed's games and barely had internet at the time, so it was easier for that narrative to be shaped. Now I still don't believe that Donaghy was/is the only ref on the take.
@trainwreckthomas9274
@trainwreckthomas9274 3 года назад
Ball don’t lie
@brianbutler7881
@brianbutler7881 3 года назад
So what does that say about boogie cousins
@mattrag4988
@mattrag4988 2 года назад
Always liked him
@o7_AP
@o7_AP 3 года назад
The most memorable quotes surrounding his career “Whack - get out! “It’s ugly ass Bill Walton!” “Ball don’t lie!”
@denistuohy2535
@denistuohy2535 3 года назад
What about “both teams played haaaarrrrrrrrd”
@BoganFromBama
@BoganFromBama 3 года назад
@@denistuohy2535 "...God Bless and goodnight."
@NateMcCoy1194
@NateMcCoy1194 3 года назад
Ugly ass Bill Walton
@TheSands83
@TheSands83 3 года назад
He said black get out not whack... they got that wrong.. if u have ever played basketball u know they say the color of your jersey then your number on a foul call.. n if U r ejected they will say like red !! You are out! Then look at your number n say it or show it with fingers to the score keeper
@sayoriachiri5833
@sayoriachiri5833 3 года назад
"It's ugly ass Bill Walton" I found that funny because Bill Walton was actually kinda handsome
@sawftmoreslump9820
@sawftmoreslump9820 3 года назад
Rasheed had a point.. refs are human they have the ability to pick and choose who they pick on
@biglordebunnyrabbit627
@biglordebunnyrabbit627 3 года назад
Ball don’t lie!
@uniboy13
@uniboy13 3 года назад
Wait wait wait, refs are people?
@skillswiper
@skillswiper 3 года назад
Antagonizing the refs all season hurts too
@Expletorygoose5
@Expletorygoose5 3 года назад
SkillSwiper he may have been antagonizing them but the refs are suppose to be unbiased.
@akaspon1
@akaspon1 3 года назад
@@Expletorygoose5 If you don't want bias, then hire robots...otherwise, what do you expect from human beings.
@TenThumbsProductions
@TenThumbsProductions 3 года назад
You can't throw out the best player on a team deep in the playoffs because he is looking at you. Refs who make themselves bigger than the game don’t deserve a job.
@palaceofwisdom9448
@palaceofwisdom9448 3 года назад
It's just more Lakers favoritism, same as what happened to the Kings in '02. The league even changed the damn playoff format mid-season to the first round being best of 7 when it looked like they were in trouble (even Charles Barkley called it "The Laker Rule").
@AirKangLocker
@AirKangLocker 3 года назад
Tim Duncan silently likes this comment
@jerryboy0422
@jerryboy0422 3 года назад
Lol I was like “wait I know that user name..” Im a subscriber of your channel and enjoy the content! Funny to see we have other common interests haha
@TenThumbsProductions
@TenThumbsProductions 3 года назад
DreamArena thanks for the sub! I love beef history and I grew up in Michigan. Detroit vs Everybody.
@heeroheero8844
@heeroheero8844 3 года назад
Sheed should have kept it together, his lack of discipline and his outburst hurt his team lmao
@agum9193
@agum9193 3 года назад
Refs said he was the hardest player to referee because, “he knew the rulebook better than anyone.” Sheed’s career is in need of real revisionist history. He was an absolute legend and an extremely smart player.
@maxx1mus1041
@maxx1mus1041 3 года назад
he was no legend
@agum9193
@agum9193 3 года назад
@@maxx1mus1041 watch the tape. ball dont lie.
@russelljohnson437
@russelljohnson437 4 месяца назад
@@maxx1mus1041your on the couch beee quiet pimp
@pattininja95
@pattininja95 3 года назад
"Rasheed implies that the league deliberately swings outcomes so the series runs a full seven games." Looking back I can't say he was wrong
@kenrickeason
@kenrickeason 3 года назад
The Players kept trying to tell us something was off..
@jankycuz11um88
@jankycuz11um88 2 года назад
Even into this day the need it to go 7 for more money
@DiagonalByte
@DiagonalByte 2 года назад
Every major sports league does this. Can't change my mind.
@accountant3847
@accountant3847 2 года назад
@JustDev lmao
@barrybshrekson864
@barrybshrekson864 Год назад
Explains 2002
@uncreative5766
@uncreative5766 3 года назад
Sheed has a point. Refs are ridiculous and almost trigger happy to call techs. Tim Duncan getting ejected by Joey Crawford for laughing at a joke a teammate said comes to mind instantly.
@mrmacross
@mrmacross 3 года назад
Don't think he was laughing at a teammate's joke. I think he was laughing at the repeated bad calls Joey Crawford was making, and after Crawford challenged Tim Duncan to a fight.
@gmwdim
@gmwdim 3 года назад
Or Reggie Evans for high-fiving his teammate Blake Griffin.
@veerchasm1
@veerchasm1 3 года назад
Timmy rules!
@Vudoo13
@Vudoo13 3 года назад
And now, we are in the era of flopping.
@MariaAlvarez-ew4rv
@MariaAlvarez-ew4rv 3 года назад
Or how about the time Joey Crawford ran over a Miami Heat player who was ready to take a 3-point shot in the closing seconds of a 1 point game Game 7 of the 2005 Eastern Conference Finals between the Miami Heat and Detroit Pistons and called the foul against Chauncey Billips (please tell me if I’m wrong cause I remember watching a clip of it but I don’t remember when it happened, if the player Crawford ran over was on the Heat, if the in the closing seconds of a 1 point game, if the player was ready to take a shot, and if the shot was a 3 pointer)
@arj5241
@arj5241 3 года назад
The defining Rasheed moment is getting ejected for staring at an official
@pitakafoa1214
@pitakafoa1214 3 года назад
"Whack! Get out!" 😂😂😂 his reaction was priceless
@uncreative5766
@uncreative5766 3 года назад
I would love if the NBA would mike refs and players up again.
@Manny-nm8dh
@Manny-nm8dh 3 года назад
It was in the Western Conference finals nonetheless.
@nicholasbova9909
@nicholasbova9909 3 года назад
@@pitakafoa1214 Steve Smith's reaction was even funnier
@StanStacks
@StanStacks 3 года назад
BEAST MODE Joey Crawford is a terrible human being that should’ve never been allowed his reign of terror
@ValensBellator
@ValensBellator 2 года назад
“Ball don’t lie” is easily one of the greatest lines from basketball 😂
@msteresa653
@msteresa653 3 года назад
"all of them cats are felonious, man"
@graywingate8879
@graywingate8879 21 час назад
And he said this years before Donaghy’s conviction, someone make him a prosecutor!
@wilbert3842
@wilbert3842 3 года назад
Nothing says “there’s not a scandal” like trying to cover it up and blocking the books release
@wojak-sensei6424
@wojak-sensei6424 3 года назад
At that point they're making Sheed up to be like Alex Jones. If I'm getting that level of bias, I'd punch a zebra so hard he'll forget who's team he's betting for. Props for him for staying "classy."
@djbrodymusic
@djbrodymusic 3 года назад
@@wojak-sensei6424 "I'd punch a zebra so hard he'll forget who's team he's betting for" what in the hell?
@wojak-sensei6424
@wojak-sensei6424 3 года назад
@@djbrodymusic As in the refs. Forget I said anything.
@skelly8185
@skelly8185 3 года назад
that.. and you don't want to give a cheater another opportunity to get rich..
@therealmelvin6352
@therealmelvin6352 3 года назад
Can't be defamation if it's the truth
@biglordebunnyrabbit627
@biglordebunnyrabbit627 3 года назад
If I don’t hear : “Enter Tim Donaghy”, one time in this vid.Someone is getting a Tech
@torachan23
@torachan23 3 года назад
You don’t have the power to give techs
@KiddsWorldEntertainment
@KiddsWorldEntertainment 3 года назад
Tora Chan Respect his gangsta
@the010og
@the010og 3 года назад
Nah Flagrant 2 with a double Tech. He needs to be in this vid
@sjbboy1790
@sjbboy1790 3 года назад
Lol
@KTF0
@KTF0 3 года назад
Many refs were intimidated Sheed because he had a reputation of knowing practically every rule in the rulebook. I can easily imagine a ref getting a hurt ego, especially if theres a player that knows more than you.
@jasondyrkacz8270
@jasondyrkacz8270 3 года назад
The MLB equivalent would probably be AJ Pierzynski.
@matthewthompson9632
@matthewthompson9632 8 месяцев назад
That’s just insane that shows real passion right there not to just be a good player but to know all the rules of the game and make sure your team never gets cheated on bad calls
@_Maxten
@_Maxten 3 года назад
sheed: yall just love to single me out bc of favoritism refs: u buggin refs while facing charges: ok u right
@FreeFoodforthePoor
@FreeFoodforthePoor 3 года назад
The only beef the NBA refs had with Sheed dealt with when he ruined the point spread on the games they were betting on.
@Simeautomatic100
@Simeautomatic100 3 года назад
*on the real, that makes me furious!!!*
@RGTitan901
@RGTitan901 3 года назад
Facts
@dbag3345
@dbag3345 3 года назад
Ding ding ding
@kevkerbster
@kevkerbster 3 года назад
Dam right
@sjbboy1790
@sjbboy1790 3 года назад
Lmao
@lillaxeddysgamingchannel8737
@lillaxeddysgamingchannel8737 3 года назад
41 Technical fouls in the 2000-2001 NBA season, 317 Technical fouls in his NBA career
@GregoryFord98
@GregoryFord98 3 года назад
Most unbreakable record
@beramtaib4713
@beramtaib4713 3 года назад
Legend
@macdreezy5410
@macdreezy5410 3 года назад
Those are Barry Bonds numbers, I believe to be unbreakable
@meharinationsportspodcast2582
@meharinationsportspodcast2582 3 года назад
You won't believe this, but Wallace is not the career leader of technical fouls. That belongs to Karl Malone with 332 technical fouls. Malone was a player who got his calls, but always complained frequently on referees.
@macdreezy5410
@macdreezy5410 3 года назад
@@meharinationsportspodcast2582 Say wha???
@ericmarks7648
@ericmarks7648 Год назад
Sheed was a true beauty. Lost in all his wizardry at the T was how insanely skilled he was.
@bbryant9455
@bbryant9455 Год назад
Seriously though. A bit ahead of his time imo. 💯
@ShevStaxBeats
@ShevStaxBeats 3 года назад
He was right about a lot of what he said. The league is about making money so ratings come first
@Jake-zu2hl
@Jake-zu2hl 2 года назад
If the league was ever proven rigged they would lose billions of dollars. It’s stupid of them to risk that. It’s stupid to think they would risk that.
@ask5118
@ask5118 3 года назад
This guy was right to call out everything officials did to him. Screw the NBA
@cdf360
@cdf360 3 года назад
cpk1994 oh please, the NBA were rigging games left and right throughout the 2000s. You’re a clown if you don’t believe they were. It’s so transparent. Sheed was right, and stern was wrong, and that’s all there is to it.
@nickc247
@nickc247 3 года назад
@cpk1994 Yup, a straight whiner.
@cdf360
@cdf360 3 года назад
cpk1994 He fought the referees out of principle. You really think Tim Donaghy was an isolated incident of referee corruption? Get real
@mattla6454
@mattla6454 3 года назад
@cpk1994 Wow i luv it how u reproduce the ideology u get told, so you never start thinkink critical...just keep growin up to live the damn boring live the old boys expect you to.... ...maybe thats why Jesus wanted us to become like childs againn??(:
@NotaPizzaGRL
@NotaPizzaGRL 3 года назад
@@mattla6454 cpk1994 eats from the trashcan of ideology
@GerritCoulter
@GerritCoulter 3 года назад
Basketball is the easiest game in the world for referees to fix. You can add 10, 15, or even 20 points on to one team's score just by calling more fouls.
@The_Jazziest_Coffee
@The_Jazziest_Coffee 11 месяцев назад
genuinely true though
@stkrd1467
@stkrd1467 3 года назад
Sheed's not wrong, look at Wade's free throw attempts compared to the entire Mavs team in 06 Finals
@PatrickMHoey
@PatrickMHoey 3 года назад
Wallace was the most “Detroit” player in the league-and he brought the Pistons’ Bad Boy image back. Dude was a monster! 💪🏻
@Dollaz2Donuts
@Dollaz2Donuts 3 года назад
Him and Ben Wallace were the Laimbeer/Mahorn of their day. Miss those teams.....
@wzac1234
@wzac1234 3 года назад
You guys gotta do a beef history between the browns and winning
@Crlongboarder
@Crlongboarder 3 года назад
Ooooof
@anthonysimancas2652
@anthonysimancas2652 3 года назад
They kind of did..but it was the browns and LOSING that was the focal point of the video highlighted by the 0-16 parade 🤣
@macdreezy5410
@macdreezy5410 3 года назад
Too soon
@denniskasiyan4938
@denniskasiyan4938 3 года назад
Pain
@MrAndrewaziz
@MrAndrewaziz 3 года назад
Bruh what the Browns do to you? 😂
@blovelady1
@blovelady1 3 года назад
Have an acquaintance who is an NBA ref.. he told me the problem with Sheed was, when you go back to the tape he was almost always right. Crazy high basketball IQ
@jaredpatterson1701
@jaredpatterson1701 3 года назад
Especially on those Pistons teams
@Funktaro5
@Funktaro5 2 года назад
He was also a bit ahead of his time as a stretch 4, providing spacing that the Pistons desperately needed when Ben Wallace was on the court. People back then complained about him spending so much time on the 3-point line when he could take it inside and score there, but his ability to stretch the floor was vital to the Pistons offense. Nowadays it's considered almost vital that a 4 can shoot from range (doubly so if your center can't). Back then, not so much.
@Bigedub101
@Bigedub101 Год назад
I believe it but u can't go back on your word cause they then feel inferior
@MrRockmusicjunkie
@MrRockmusicjunkie 3 года назад
I remember as a kid watching Pistons games and every time the whistle blew you just knew he was about to argue
@macdreezy5410
@macdreezy5410 3 года назад
Fact: Dusty Rhodes was a booker for the NBA
@vidishkarkera2630
@vidishkarkera2630 3 года назад
The Dream is alwath gonna book a dusthy finish dadthy.
@MrPlow-jc4cr
@MrPlow-jc4cr 3 года назад
The David Stern officiating era was...interesting, to say the least
@AirKangLocker
@AirKangLocker 3 года назад
The hacksawed rigged era
@J.A.Z-TheMortal
@J.A.Z-TheMortal 3 года назад
Super rigged era. LAL should have won only 2 out of the 5 titles they won on that era.
@aztronomy7457
@aztronomy7457 3 года назад
Just watched the mavs/blazers game and I can confirm the officiating is still "interesting "
@kennyhill9238
@kennyhill9238 3 года назад
Miami in 2006 and in 2012 also Game 7 2010
@kevkerbster
@kevkerbster 3 года назад
Rigged
@footballchamp3873
@footballchamp3873 3 года назад
Answer this: Who doesn't have beef with certain referees
@im_waffles2920
@im_waffles2920 3 года назад
Kawhi?
@mcray0309
@mcray0309 3 года назад
You
@Sizdothyx
@Sizdothyx 3 года назад
I'm not biased. I hate all NBA referees. Can't name one game where they didn't have two big-time screw-ups/no-calls in the last 8 years of basketball.
@Trey-Jae
@Trey-Jae 3 года назад
Mike Conley
@ikefromsmashbros9237
@ikefromsmashbros9237 3 года назад
[Insert player who gets infinite free passes here]
@alittletooloose3087
@alittletooloose3087 3 года назад
We still love sheed in portland, what a legend, he's absolutely right about the NBA, anyone who watches a small market team can see it.
@Bigedub101
@Bigedub101 Год назад
Exactly...As a Hornets and Bulls fan....We all see it...
@Cooe.
@Cooe. 6 месяцев назад
​@@Bigedub101... 🤦 Except Chicago's not a small market lol.
@ZackZ-mg9uq
@ZackZ-mg9uq Год назад
He was the missing piece that brought the Pistons the Ring in 04 and I'll never forget it. 1 of the best starting 5 lineups in History
@Adri_Unsung
@Adri_Unsung 8 месяцев назад
Best Five Alive ❤️❤️❤️
@shukthapa8607
@shukthapa8607 3 года назад
“BALL DONT LIE”
@guru_basketball_kiero
@guru_basketball_kiero 3 года назад
💯
@slowpeelz
@slowpeelz 3 года назад
Hahah I used to love that
@rahe2141
@rahe2141 3 года назад
Im afraid that's gonna be a tech buddy
@SnailSlugSlut
@SnailSlugSlut 3 года назад
4:54 did he say “whack”? lol
@torachan23
@torachan23 3 года назад
I think it’s insane that you get fined for criticizing the work of an integral figure of the game. Imagine getting fined for criticizing a chef for overcooking your food.
@simpleanswer8954
@simpleanswer8954 3 года назад
That aint even close to the same. The fans can criticize the refs as much as they want. They're the ones paying for tickets and merch. They're the ones that are the 'customer'. Wallace is an employee. A waiter that criticizes the chef would get in trouble. The customer doesn't. You just need to realize the players aren't the customers - they're employees.
@don_5283
@don_5283 3 года назад
@@simpleanswer8954 Perhaps... But to me this looks a lot more like middle management screwed something up, and an employee tells the customer that it was middle management's screw-up, and then middle management spends the rest of that employee's career jacking with his schedule, playing chickenshit games with him, writing him up for tiny technicalities, taking any excuse to lean on him... With upper management's tacit approval. Both the league's and the referees' reluctance to directly confront the empirical evidence of undeniable biases which jeopardize the integrity of the game is a terrible look. I really don't care about Rasheed Wallace, and certainly there are ways he undermined his own standing that were just unnecessary, but that doesn't in any way soften the fact that the league and the officials have consistently been out of line, and seem reluctant to do anything meaningful to address those problems.
@simpleanswer8954
@simpleanswer8954 3 года назад
@@don_5283 That sounds about right to me. I was just saying you have to adapt it to see this as an employee being punished for complaining about another employee to the customers.
@NeverMakingVideos
@NeverMakingVideos Год назад
This is why I like rugby's approach. Refs are held to a high standard, can have any judgement checked instantly on cameras, wear a mic and bodycam (so the crowd hears them talk with players) and are expected to explain any "controversial" reasoning on the spot if a captain asks. On the other hand, a ref's judgements are final. Players can and do get heavily penalised for disrespecting both officials and players, or a warning if it's not too serious. Just as players get penalised for bad conduct, so do referees - with severe fines if they are thought to be influencing outcomes. As a result, I can't think of any other sport with a similar level of respect that is shown to officials, let alone opposing teams. Nigel Owens was nominated for UK sports personality of the year several times as a referee, might have even won it. One of the most dangerous contact sports you can play, and you can be sent off the pitch for bad behaviour. Such a beautiful contrast
@venod3134
@venod3134 3 года назад
Sheed is right and always has been. Big business is corrupt, it's just a thing even in sports.
@cantstopbeeboo2055
@cantstopbeeboo2055 3 года назад
You also didn't mention that in 2005, Rasheed was so hated by the Refs = He had to enter the game in the 2nd Half in Post Season Games. Meaning, the coach at the time thought it would've been in Rasheed's best interest to NOT play the 1st Half or he may have fouled out/or tossed.
@derekgoodejr8788
@derekgoodejr8788 Год назад
That’s crazy.
@dontmindme5879
@dontmindme5879 3 года назад
Damn so now we ABSOLUTELY need Tim Duncan vs Joey Crawford
@palaceofwisdom9448
@palaceofwisdom9448 3 года назад
That remains the most ridiculous public act by an official in the history of sports. I saw that when it happened and nearly fell out of my chair. Of all people, a ref challenged the most mild mannered player in the league to a fight.
@nathaniellevesque2782
@nathaniellevesque2782 3 года назад
YOU DARE LAUGH?!?!?!?!? In all seriousness, imagine if I were to tell you the one person ejected for laughing on the bench and later challenged to a fight by a referee for it was Tim Duncan. Literally the last person on earth to be considered a ref-baiter.
@chulyeom2366
@chulyeom2366 3 года назад
Nothing says “there’s not a scandal” like trying to cover it up and blocking the books release
@jasondyrkacz8270
@jasondyrkacz8270 3 года назад
@@palaceofwisdom9448 Tony Parker's reaction was my reaction.
@cantstopbeeboo2055
@cantstopbeeboo2055 3 года назад
I don't wanna argue NOBODY........but Tim Duncan deserves whatever bad he gets. Everybody on the planet that watches the NBA and studies the officials "KNOWS", 2005 was Rasheed's 2nd ring in a row with the Pistons. Buttttttt if you were old enough to see the games "Live and kept up with the media" = They screwed Rasheed over, really bad...and the *darling of the NBA at the time was Timothy* - That's why he got a free ring and *he knew* he didn't deserve it, at all. *If you have 0 clue, upon what I'm talking about....don't say nothing....if you know what I'm talking about....then please feel free to add on* (awaiting the insults and arguments for stating FACTS)
@SuperSaiyanGuyver
@SuperSaiyanGuyver 3 года назад
Ever see "Forget Paris" where Billy Crystal loses his mind and ejects everybody? That's Sheed's entire career.
@keithharper1470
@keithharper1470 3 года назад
KAJ: "You can't eject me this is my farewell game" BC: "Let me be the first to say farewell"
@SuperSaiyanGuyver
@SuperSaiyanGuyver 3 года назад
@Arizona Fire Ent And Kareem's parents!
@adamkelly4252
@adamkelly4252 3 года назад
Rasheed was a true talent. He was tall, athletic, and a versatile shooter. He could play in the post and drop it from the perimeter. He was a pure passer and a team oriented player. The guy was always looking to help his teammates play at a higher level, and I loved watching him play. I'm a Lakers fan, but it really pissed me off when Wallace was tossed in game 1 of the 2000 playoffs....
@nathanonwuka7928
@nathanonwuka7928 3 года назад
Current relationship between refs and players: Ref: Go to the office Player: what did I do!
@loganmoreau7569
@loganmoreau7569 3 года назад
Let’s be honest, he’s not alone, everyone has beef with the refs
@AEMoreira81
@AEMoreira81 3 года назад
True, but how many have 317 career techs? His 41 in one season (2000-2001) may never be broken, because these days, one gets suspended after the 16th tech in a season.
@jeanmacalino8143
@jeanmacalino8143 3 года назад
@@AEMoreira81 yeah. so stay in yo lane, logan. keep watching that football thing sport.
@loganmoreau7569
@loganmoreau7569 3 года назад
daigul trust me, players vs refs in football ain’t much better, it’s arguably worse
@keithharper1470
@keithharper1470 3 года назад
Everyone on Donaghy's list has had problems with refs for their entire carrer that's why I will never believe he's the only one to fix games just the only one to get caught
@RafsanS15
@RafsanS15 3 года назад
@@AEMoreira81 Chuck and Karl Malone 329 and 332 techs
@gansmith
@gansmith 3 года назад
Wallace was a 80's tough defender playing in a much softer defensive league. I miss him.
@ABock4
@ABock4 3 года назад
I knew that Rasheed made saying “ball don’t lie!” famous, but I didn’t realize he was the first one to do it. You learn something new everyday. Gotta love Sheed!
@1TotalJabroni
@1TotalJabroni 3 года назад
"Ball don't lie!" -Sheed
@torachan23
@torachan23 3 года назад
There should be an end season award for most technical fouls named after Rasheed Wallace
@5at5una
@5at5una 3 года назад
like shaqtin a fool? well thats not an award to be proud of
@bab4380
@bab4380 3 года назад
Man we need more guys like Sheed right now in the league.
@tylito4764
@tylito4764 3 года назад
Draymond.. but everyone wants to hate em, careful what you ask for
@specialwhenlit8435
@specialwhenlit8435 3 года назад
@Ty Lito Except Dray is exactly the kind of player Sheed was constantly pointing out: Hyper aggressive dude on a marquee team getting away with murder
@thejmc4074
@thejmc4074 3 года назад
We need a lot of players from the day in the shitty league now.
@gregb7337
@gregb7337 3 года назад
SpecialWhenLit but draymond isn’t on sheeds level of talent that’s the difference
@itsallenwow
@itsallenwow 3 года назад
Getting away with murder? Calm down if you think draymond is anywhere near the level of Wallace I don’t think you’ve been watching closely either team
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 3 года назад
"Whack! Get out!" is right up there with "Number 99 of the defense, he's giving him the business down there" for supremely technical (as it were) referee explanations.
@mrmacross
@mrmacross 3 года назад
When it comes to NBA player and ref interactions, there are two big factors: 1) Players are so empowered/entitled they complain about everything. Bad calls are frustrating, but concentrate on playing the game and let it go. Complaining isn't going to change the call. 2) Refs can be so insecure and drunk with power. If you treat the players like children, don't be surprised if they respond to you like children. The NBA is right to back the refs, but because the NBA is going to back the refs, some of them think they can instigate or escalate tension with players.
@satua13
@satua13 3 года назад
this, so much of this, both parties need to take their responsibility to the game more seriously. Best compliment a ref can receive is "Wait you reffed that game, I didn't even notice you" and a player's should be "Gee you were good", not "Gee you gave the ref what he deserved didn't you? Shame you only got to play 10 minutes and we lost"
@HAL-lz7jj
@HAL-lz7jj Год назад
When it comes to NBA player/ref interaction the player has absolutely no power. And with few well placed / not called foul (or even travel or any call} in right moment you turn the tide of entire game and potentially series. It was and will forver be fixed.
@BattlePants321
@BattlePants321 3 года назад
Great video on the origin of the famous basketball phrase "The basketball will not go in the hoop if it knows the ref misused their whistle"
@Augfordpdoggie
@Augfordpdoggie 3 года назад
this is just like society. people want you to be blindly obedient, if you're not, if you stand up for what you believe in, they call you a trouble maker
@benestrada5589
@benestrada5589 3 года назад
The NBA is rigged, Sheed was right, they put the teams in the finals that will pull the most ratings. Never forget the 2002 Western Conference Finals.
@BBTHEBEAST
@BBTHEBEAST 3 года назад
Cause the NBA wanted to see orlando/la instead of Cleveland/LA. Y’all sound dumb
@joshuaharris5032
@joshuaharris5032 3 года назад
Scoe3x that series is an exception and after the tim donaghy era. NBA officiating in the early 90s and 00s was rigged asf there’s no denying that.
@J.A.Z-TheMortal
@J.A.Z-TheMortal 3 года назад
@@BBTHEBEAST Those are exceptions. Those are series so lopsided that refs and the league could not affect the outcome. Series like 2003 LAL vs Spurs. 2004 LAL vs Detroit, 2009 Orlando vs Cleveland, 2011 LAL vs Mavs. All series in which Stern's favorite team lost, by landslides. Now compare that to all the close series that happen to have the bigger market team winning games by 1 or 2 points or possessions. In fact, this very video reminded me that Portland also had a huge disparity in free throws on game 7 of the western conference finals. Not a coincidence that most close games where won by the team that is most popular and generates more revenue. When the underdog won, they had to win by a landslide, to not give Stern, Donagy and the rest of th refs a chance.
@lucashadiningtyas9699
@lucashadiningtyas9699 3 года назад
dont forget 2006 Heat v Mavs
@benestrada5589
@benestrada5589 3 года назад
@@lucashadiningtyas9699 you right
@julianbell9161
@julianbell9161 3 года назад
Gotta say, “Whack! Get out!” was not the call I was expecting
@contato424
@contato424 3 года назад
Rasheed Wallace: breathes Referee: Technical foul! Unsportsmanlike conduct!
@Threezus17
@Threezus17 3 года назад
Lol
@TheVampyroteuthis
@TheVampyroteuthis 3 года назад
You could sense the tension between sheed and the refs just from watching on tv
@trent_k
@trent_k 3 года назад
karedeko I can’t believe how mentally vulnerable some NBA refs are. “I told him 3 times to stop staring at me” I’d much rather have a player staring at me than talking trash or getting all up in my face, that ref needs to get over himself
@kenb.1096
@kenb.1096 3 года назад
Trent Koberna it’s about establishing some groundrules. If I were a ref I wouldn’t let a player try to intimidate me
@trent_k
@trent_k 3 года назад
@@kenb.1096 So you are so weak that someone staring at you will intimidate you into changing how you ref a game? If a player stared at me I would ignore it and keep doing my job because they are not threatening me in any way.
@clydeellis6569
@clydeellis6569 3 года назад
another amazing video! Thanks for making 2020 somewhat enjoyable
@jihod1
@jihod1 3 года назад
He was part one of three series that I know for a fact was fixed, 2000 Western conference finals and the 2020 Western Conference Finals. Whenever Kobe and Shaq ran up against better teams the refs bailed them out, it was real shameful to watch. Shaq should have 1 ring because in 2006 they did it again with the Mavs /Heat when the refs made Dwade into MJ junior.
@davealvarado4620
@davealvarado4620 Год назад
Facts
@bolbolsburner6505
@bolbolsburner6505 3 года назад
These videos make my day they make me so hyped when they come out. Thank you
@akauf2282
@akauf2282 3 года назад
Rasheed has a Secret Base to beef against them
@CzarsSalad
@CzarsSalad 3 года назад
The Lakers 3-peat in the early 2000's was helped primarily by the refs
@samisami9114
@samisami9114 3 года назад
which makes kobe and shaq look even worse
@samisami9114
@samisami9114 3 года назад
Negronigggablackman it’s does because then they both would have 2 less rings
@TheSands83
@TheSands83 3 года назад
Yep it was blatant.. like 2010 and the heat run with lebron no wade in 2012 n 2013 and heat in 2006
@atlien1988
@atlien1988 3 года назад
You can't say primarily because that would mean that the main reason for their success were due to referee interference. The refs definitely had their hands on the 2002 WCF.
@andrewmartinez9992
@andrewmartinez9992 3 года назад
Refs always favor the lakers even today
@giovannoyan3568
@giovannoyan3568 3 года назад
Respect to that man, the NBA sometimes really does have those disgusting biased calls that they trynna make everyone forget
@jasoncarpenter4129
@jasoncarpenter4129 3 года назад
4:54 same thing happened to me. Away game went for a layup just to get body checked to the floor. I was walking back to play defense because a dead ball happened staring in disbelief when this old ass ref tossed me for "intimidating him" the ref was 6 foot 5 and I was 5 foot 9 at best.
@contato424
@contato424 3 года назад
@Jason Carpenter that’s nuts! I’ve had similar things happen too, the refs when I was in like middle school were all old dudes who had nothing else to do.
@troke3207
@troke3207 3 года назад
oof
@tmstudios2713
@tmstudios2713 3 года назад
Got called for a foul by barely grazing this dude’s leg with my pinky 🤦🏽‍♂️
@contato424
@contato424 3 года назад
@TM Studios wow lol.
@alex31794
@alex31794 3 года назад
got punched while playing defense and had the foul called on me
@_Yosho_
@_Yosho_ 3 года назад
Rasheed: *passes to a teammate* Refs: Foul, you threw it at him.
@tubingforever
@tubingforever 3 года назад
I've never watched basketball but you're videos have me hooked!
@the010og
@the010og 3 года назад
I thought about this video like 4 days ago. Thank you so much for making it guys. I don't like getting mushy, but frfr it means a lot lol
@nintendonchill
@nintendonchill 3 года назад
Refs were cheating. Kings and Blazers were cheated out of Finals. Who doesn't have beef with that?
@TheSands83
@TheSands83 3 года назад
Curly Que they missed because they let lakers play football n gave lakers every call n let them shoot free throws until game was tied
@sawftmoreslump9820
@sawftmoreslump9820 3 года назад
" whack- get out!"
@TheSands83
@TheSands83 3 года назад
It’s black get out not whack .... that makes zero sense
@beelzedog
@beelzedog 3 года назад
mansonlamps I know it’s six days after but you’re definitely right lol
@peterboylan8560
@peterboylan8560 3 года назад
That's amazing, this video was great and then I found out this guy coined one of my favourite phrases ever. Brilliant stuff
@uriahbrandon6917
@uriahbrandon6917 3 года назад
I suggested this 2 years ago.... glad to see yall actually read comments!
@datguitarplayer1656
@datguitarplayer1656 3 года назад
I believe Rasheed and I think that it's pretty obvious the further from his career we get the more and more his statements are proven right- the more he is vindicated.
@paligula.
@paligula. 3 года назад
hes the perfect power forward for todays nba
@palaceofwisdom9448
@palaceofwisdom9448 3 года назад
He used to get criticized for taking 3's rather than posting up more, maybe he was just ahead of his time.
@trainwreckthomas9274
@trainwreckthomas9274 3 года назад
@@palaceofwisdom9448 agreed💯
@March_for_Aries
@March_for_Aries 3 года назад
Kinda sad we didn't get to see "Both teams played hard", Iconic moment from Rasheed.
@pearleycunningham
@pearleycunningham 3 года назад
This is the beef history I’ve been waiting for
@Encyclopedia_Brown97
@Encyclopedia_Brown97 3 года назад
Love seeing a basketball video in my feed, bc I know it means I’ll either be hearing Seth or Clara
@mckoolaid1567
@mckoolaid1567 3 года назад
Off topic but 2k should add bad all time teams like the 7-59 Bobcats
@tracefvr
@tracefvr 3 года назад
Ight
@ro2113
@ro2113 3 года назад
No.
@fitsumwoldemeskel4363
@fitsumwoldemeskel4363 3 года назад
Who tf is gonna play with them
@mckoolaid1567
@mckoolaid1567 3 года назад
@@fitsumwoldemeskel4363 me
@mckoolaid1567
@mckoolaid1567 3 года назад
@@ro2113 yes
@akachiazubuike1109
@akachiazubuike1109 5 месяцев назад
The tone, the music.... well done guys. Works of art.
@lucasmelee
@lucasmelee 3 года назад
cant believe you guys actually did it! bless
@marymba3859
@marymba3859 3 года назад
I Feel Like We All Wait To Long For Rasheed’s Episode:
@palaceofwisdom9448
@palaceofwisdom9448 3 года назад
The most infamous one for me was a game where Sheed was walking off the court at halftime and a ref blatantly baited him into saying something and immediately ejected him.
@SmoothCriminal12
@SmoothCriminal12 3 года назад
When did that happen?
@jerryjanik480
@jerryjanik480 2 года назад
As a Pistons fan Rasheed Wallace was one of my favorite players of all time besides Dennis Rodman but from those teams that won the championship Eastern Conference Finals in the NBA Championship Rashid Wallace Ben Wallace I love those guys two Hall of Famers in great defensive players
@mahmoodal-imam2892
@mahmoodal-imam2892 2 года назад
Thanks for the interesting subject. It really open the eyes on an important aspect of NBA referees.
@hunterking6033
@hunterking6033 3 года назад
Stare downs are absolutely an intimidation tactic. Why the hell do you think guys stare each other down after dunking, blocking shots, big hits, TD catches, Home Runs? It’s an intimidation tactic.
@-HughJass-
@-HughJass- 3 года назад
Its what people do before they start throwing punches. Really dumb narrative in this video. You can tell this clown has never been in a fight in his life.
@AlveinFencer
@AlveinFencer 3 года назад
"He went to the bench feeling heated, down from his post up high. Over the boos of the crowd and the whistles, they all heard his famous cry: You can get two shots when a soft knight flops, but a ball will never lie. Poor Sheed can plead, while the refs play deaf, that a ball will never lie~."
@im_waffles2920
@im_waffles2920 3 года назад
Damian Lillard’s greatest ballad.
@tobishonubi8327
@tobishonubi8327 3 года назад
Game of zones is lit
@MrSonofabitch00
@MrSonofabitch00 2 года назад
"A lot of them cats are felonious" is one of the best quotes in history
@paulevans6066
@paulevans6066 Год назад
Sheed is the type teammate I want lol
@jdapaul1351
@jdapaul1351 Год назад
Pretty much "love 'em if they're on your team, hate 'em if they're the opponent"
@bizzles44
@bizzles44 3 года назад
My favorite Rasheed Wallace moment is when he got thrown out for just glaring at a ref 😂
@markjones952
@markjones952 3 года назад
Basketball is my favorite sport. I like the way they dribble up and down the court.
@YaowBucketHEAD
@YaowBucketHEAD 3 года назад
Sigh.... *SOMETHING SOMETHING MOSES MALONE.*
@Swoosh_015
@Swoosh_015 3 года назад
I like the way you said it immediately embedded it’s way into basketball culture. I thought “ball don’t lie” was in Naismiths original handwritten rules. Considering it works and all.
@outlawrip-offartist4161
@outlawrip-offartist4161 3 года назад
As a Lakers fan, thank you referees you guys are the most honourable people in the world.
@ericsilver9401
@ericsilver9401 3 года назад
Someone should do "the creation of SB nation deserves a deep rewind"
@dontmindme5879
@dontmindme5879 3 года назад
In sports. You should NEVER know the name of a ref. Unless you personally know or heard it, or they have had a long career and just beloved. I have NEVER known a refs name that was for a good reason.
@crimsoncola
@crimsoncola 3 года назад
Wow I had no idea! Great video my dude. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
@mikecookboxing
@mikecookboxing 3 года назад
Roy Jones vs Antonio Tarver or Bernard Hopkins beef history please! Love this channel & beef history!
@AlMarksman
@AlMarksman 3 года назад
One of my favorite players of all time
@garyfield3270
@garyfield3270 3 года назад
The NBA needs to better control the officials. This is still an issue today
@lucashadiningtyas9699
@lucashadiningtyas9699 3 года назад
2002 WCF Kings v Lakers and 2006 Finals Heat v Mavs, enough said.
@LoganNagol
@LoganNagol Год назад
4:04 damn that was cool ngl
@trippintripathi
@trippintripathi 3 года назад
"I need violence, Rasheed Wallace, I'm okay with a Tech/ TEC"
@tfromcali89
@tfromcali89 3 года назад
Upside Down
@honeybee4889
@honeybee4889 3 года назад
He should become the impartial ref that he always dreamt about having as a player
@sleepful1917
@sleepful1917 2 года назад
i listen to this basketball podcast called pod dont lie and now the name makes sense lmao, i love it
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