Rasta when asked "do you know your own people" he says yes and turns around and points at everyone standing there and says "these are my people" Well said mate
haha. funny guy. who said gays have to live. demselves don't support the continuity of the human race so i guess its better to show them the way out. quick quick. the equal sign and the plus sign ain't same as the minus. boom bye bye-bye inna batty boy head.
That Muslim guy that came in towards the end was just absolutely disrespectful. Argue your point without insulting others in the process. thank you RASTA man for your bravery. it is to be commended.
Muslims have hate for anyone that doesn't see the world as they do. Its very apparent they're willing to kill over it. No rasta ever do that. Jah rastafari!!
Yeah...and the shady comment about speaking to the other guy and he has nothing to now to say...says its all...keep your mouth shut or else...do I say or else.. ..on top of that. Dude.. You put your hands on the Man, grabbing his wrist in some insecure adolescent vain attempt to control that man. Just displays your ignorance ...you think you can controll the spirit via the body...fool...talking about feeding the poor with one hand but sure as fck dictating subservience with the other.
Iam the rasta in this video, Rasta is a way of life that anyone can choose it is not a religion there is no initiation in Rasta so my thoughts are my own they are not the thoughts of a group of Rastas, Some Rastas choose to follow an believe in Selassie that is their business not mine, Some choose to follow an believe in the bible that is their business not mine, Rasta mean the freedom to choose for yourself so iam a rasta who choose to follow my own conscience so i ignore all so call holy books an all so call prophets i follow no man who emerge from their mothers womb just like myself, I look down an no human being but i look up to none either i look all humans in their eyes as equal,There is no black an white in rasta because the one creative energy we call God never create any, Human beings are spiritual an physical we are all spirits living in physical bodies we are not our bodies, Ask anyone black or white what is the color of their mind an no one knows because the spirit have no color oneness in diversity, Maybe it is only after death remove us from here that the great majority will realize that they spent their whole life fighting against their own brothers an sisters in spirit we are all one, Race like religion was created by the idiotic men of knowledge to divide an rule, We all know the truth but only the few choose to live by the truth they know, the majority prefer to follow the group like dumb sheep's who need shepherds no man is master of another, Human beings should humble themselves an realize that when we shit all shit stinks an shit cannot be better than shit.
Rastafari is a state of mind, and a refreshing state of mind. Things like Islam belong more with communism, nazism etc. If more people acted like Rasta, this world would be so much better. So yes, deadlocks tell the people. What has Islam given the world in the last 700 years? Nothing, except massive slavery, oppression of half of humanity - women, and fucking Jihad. So, dreadlocks, tell the people. Greetings from Holland. Nuff respect.
I do not follow either religion, but I like Rasta *much* better. I know of no Rasta terror attacks. No Rasta has ever threatened me. I know of no Rasta trying to eliminate freedom of speech.
Disembowell I know that being gay is actually illegal in many Muslim nations. In fact, in many Muslim nations, being gay carries a death penalty. I think it is no coincidence that the Orlando terror attack targeted a gay night club. Can you make a case that Rastas are less tolerant of gays than Muslims?
@@tomwallhead6950 well if you criticise someone's love of something. Of course they'll get angry or annoyed. Its like me criticising something you love, e.g your mum? Makes sense now buddy
Rastafari is not a religion. Rastafari is a spritual way of life. Every rasta have their own journey as we are born to be free. Do not confuse religion and spirituality. Connecting to nature is what the I mean with connecting with Jah.
from 1:26 is what sold me on the Rasta bloke when the guy defending Islam said "I have been to my homeland, I have seen my own people - have you seen your own people?" and the Rasta guy turned around, pointed at the crowd and said that they were his own people I feel that a big problem with many of the immigrants in the UK, particularly those that are Muslim is that they fail to assimilate, whether they try to or not. This is partly the fault of those born in the UK, we have gradually become ashamed of our own identity, of our own culture and as such, who can really blame those that come here to feel the same way? Its a big problem when people identify themselves as their religion, or their old culture first rather than their Britishness and why there is so much religious and racial tension between British citizens
@sham kay Rasta read the Bible my friend, you seem to be confusing how herb got to jamaica that has nothing to do with when people began following Rastafari.
@sham kay my friend I didn't mean to offend at all, I smoke herb on a daily basis it's just I believe Leonard Howell was the first rasta and have never heard about a connection with India within the early Rasta I was just disagreeing with that point. But I have heard that the herb comes from India originally so I agree with you on that. And indeed God gave us every green herb/plant for us to use as we see fit. Give thanks
I love listening to the street preachers. Their manner of speaking is delightful to listen to. It tickles the ear and the mind. The way the orator jumps from subject to subject, enunciating with flourish, and projecting verbosely. The body language. The expositions. The verbal thrusts and parries. The bullrushes with the tongue. It is a joy to listen.
Everything aside, I love how open and accepting of opinions this whole debate was, lots of smiles and passion, no one threatening or suffocating free speech, refreshing.
religions make things a big over complicated mess, if you believe in god, bypass all that complex bullshit and form your own connection, treat your fellow man & woman with respect. its *simple*
It's not that simple. How can you do that if you allow yourself to drink alcohol take drugs etc. Sleep with a lot of women. That's not respect. Whatever book it is people need it to lay out the rules if it was just all about respect it would make it worse as you can have respect for someone and still kill them lol.
@@BossBoss-dz9gk drinking and drugs don’t make you disrespectful and for sleeping part it is Islam that permits man having more than one wife . West is civil society because it has given platform to all kinds of people for grown unlike the middle east where tieing a cloth on your body makes to you a man of God no matter how sick of human you are inside those house. Islam couldn't even give basic rights to their women call all kinds of names to the non religious and talk about respect by comparing it with alcohol and cloth . Respect is earned by the way to speak with other amd treat them fair no matter how they look or what they wear if your religion can't reach u this basic decency it has failed.
These gentlemen are both dressed very beautifully. They look elegant, both of them. The Rasta guy reminds me of my son with his dreadlocks. I kept some of my son's dreadlocks, I miss watching him play djembe drums, though I can still hear his amazing ability to create that music. "Rhythm as a remedy for relentless tears" R.A.S. ( Roland's initials ) was the line of his poetry chosen to represent his life. Poetry that spoke of every religion and for all people.
This is one of THE best Amateur, original, and Real videos right now on youtube that reflect the true meaning of Freedom and Speech and true democracy and multiculturism
Buluba McJefferies The atheist an an the religious r in the same boat one believing in God the other dont believe in any God,But belief is not knowing so both the believer an the unbeliever r ignorant because they do not know,To know we must learn to listen to conscience it is the knower within all beings who as ever emerge from the womb of woman,No atheist r religious being can know Conscience one follow a book the other is totally material an have no idea about themselves,I wonder if atheist an religious men know why we all have a memory it is the creative energy video recorder it record all our deeds so that whenever death remove us from the body we can reap whatever we sow here
+Mariusz Zaleski I don't believe in any God/s, a religious person does believe in religion and usually at least one God. That is not being ''in the same boat''. So right there you have failed to recognize, comprehend, grasp and understand the differences between an atheist and a theist. That's your ignorance, not mine, but cheers all the same. Not playing sports is not a sport, not collecting stamps is not a hobby and not smoking cigarettes is not a habit. I've read many of your ill typed comments on this video and you seem to harp on about ''belief'' and ''knowing'' before hiding behind your understanding of what conscience is and how it can bridge the gap from believer to someone that knows and then in your reply to my statement you go on about ''the creative energy video recorder.'' Seriously, you actually typed that bogus sh!t. Which i find laughable and full of silliness and yet another piece of bullsh!t from the mind of a religious follower trying to explain a way to circumvent the insanity you are promoting to make it fit. Which simply doesn't make any sense without a whole lot of context and explaining and free licence to allow for your belief and no one else's. Some semblance of English, the language i speak, which one would have thought would have been offered to promote your own religious ideologies, as a basic courtesy for any conversation with meaning and resolution to take place. Memory, defined 1. the mental capacity or faculty of retaining and reliving facts, events, impressions, etc.,or of recalling or recognizing previous experiences. 2. this faculty as possessed by a particular individual: to have a good memory. synonyms: ability to remember, powers of recall, recall, powers of retention,retention, mind Conscience, defined 1. the inner sense of what is right or wrong in one's conduct or motives, impelling one toward right action: to follow the dictates of conscience. 2. the complex of ethical and moral principles that controls or inhibits the actions or thoughts of an individual. synonyms: sense of right and wrong, sense of right, moral sense, still small voice, inner voice, voice within; morals, standards, values, principles, ethics, creed,beliefs; compunction, scruples, qualms.
Buluba McJefferies I get your point perfectly, as weird as it could sound. "I don't believe in any God/s" You said yourself. I would say it's a step on the ladder higher. Believers are set in stone and follow a story. They are aware of the fact that they only follow a story thay cannot verify, so they fight and kill to protect what they believe not to be exposed. Unbelievers tend to have more open mind as they don't want to swallow the trickery religions offer. One the other hand, without looking in the mirror one can only be a believer or unbeliever (atheist). One cannot KNOW. Knowing appears from beyond the mind only after one decides to go for a jihad against self and purify ones way of living, re-evaluate concepts held by the mind and what one used to know. It cannot be explained or passed from person to person. it can only be experienced. We all have been indoctrinated in childhood by indoctrinated parents, environment, churches and schools. Because a child takes everything they see as how things are and should be they tend to replicate these broken patterns in their adult lives. This is what is happening here. It's not a shame to be indoctrinated. Everyone goes through this same road. The shame is not to challenge self and die in fear of unknown without trying to free self from this prison. This same as a recipe to make bread is not a bread and it's not possible to taste bread without baking it (making actual work). Human mind has capacity to "expand" beyond any conventional knowledge and that's what this conversation is about. It's an invitation to look within and release mind from the prison it was put into. There is more than the mind and it cannot be experienced without internal change. That's the way being a believer or atheist is different for you and this same for me. Both are prisons of the mind. It doesn't mean that anyone is better or worse though. Everyone goes through raw and crude form of indoctrination. This cycle was started long time ago and goes on it's own since. Indoctrinated beings protect this system without even knowing about it. I could release myself, you can do this same as we are equal and there is no difference between us at all (apart of the state of the mind)
Buluba McJefferies I know Atheist dont believe in any God thats why they are unbelievers an there is no difference between the two,One believe in nonsense the other dont believe in anything so both of them knows noting,Atheist is just another form of ignorance no one who is an atheist can know themselves so no atheist know what conscience is how can they if they refuse to live a moral life,An if you reason with any atheist you will find that what they have to say make no sense because they cannot reason just like the religious man,Atheist is just another excuse for not living a honest moral life they choose negativity instead an end up in ignorance
Mariusz Zaleski Yes unbelievers are more open minded an they dont want to swallow the trickery religion offer,I dont believe in God i know God believe is ignorance i talk about the things i know not what i believe,Like i know conscience is the light within all beings who as ever emerge from the womb of woman,Now i dont believe that i know it just like how i know that memory is God video recorder within all beings 2 record all their deeds while they live here on earth
Charles you know diddly-squat about Islam, wading in about Sunnis and Shias...I noticed video was cut off at the point where the other Muslim guy was reasoning successfully with the Rasta and getting him to calm down with the posturing and drama...your anti-Islamic agenda is very clear in this one
Rasta was class. The lad that came to the wrong party well I'm not sure if he was after Halloween or a mediaeval convention 😂 he sounded like a guru that belongs in Beverly hills with the rest of t he twats. The Rasta man has like Nantwich good soul. See it in his reactions uncut. That intelligent he can rebuff being polite arrogant and mishevious whilst coming across not offensive. The charisma of a man with no hate in his heart. Bless his life. He blessed us
religion is regarded by the uneducated as true, by the wise as false and by the rulers as useful - thank you Seneca for so eloquently describing my thoughts some 2,000 years before i thought them!
+Ital is Vital yh I totally agree with u. they have abandoned islam. when the Americans took the Africans as slaves because they had alot of knowledge well islam gave them that knowledge and many of the Africans that they took as slaves were muslims and if u don't believe me go and research it for yourself. in Africa the muslims there at the time of the prophet were alot better and had alot more knowledge of islam than the arabs who spoke the language of the quran. they (the Africans) were not allowed to learn or teach their own beliefs and that's y many of them such as yourself don't know your original roots.
Dont agree with me are you trying to say that it was Islam that only arise out of the desert 1400 years ago that teach Africans knowledge where did the Africans who built the pyramids get their knowledge from, But knowledge is not wisdom no one need a book to teach them wisdom only our conscience can teach us wisdom that is why our African ancestors said man know thyself, They did not say we should no anything call Islam that is the culture of Arabia that is why Muslims go to mecca an pray facing the kabba they dont go to to Africa because the roots of Islam is in Arabia not Africa, Islam enter Africa with the Arabs who invade an conquer most of north Africa raping killing an enslaving millions of our African ancestors, My original roots is Africa Arabs are not my creator so they are not my teacher no prophet or messenger is my teacher, If you are black you are are a traitor an a coward who follower the ways of our ancestors slave masters, If you are not black you are a racist who want to insist that African should follow the ways of others as if God create Africans as idiots who must be led by others.
Religion was once a beautifully expressive lifestyle. Now it is abused as a weapon and as an excuse. I am very scared for our future,not as religious individuals but as humans. As humanity.
20:08 A lot of people don't know that all Muslims used to follow the Old testament & the Torah, The final revelation they follow is the Quran. There hasn't been a revelation ever since which is why the religion is classed as dated & old. Anyway the islamic faith is a very interesting one to study & is probably the only religion that will stand the test of time because of the mass following. I believe that there is a god & I also believe in good & bad & once we die we will be judged on our actions. Just do good, stay away from evil & help your neighbours/charities & people in need. Surely thats the right way of life..... right?
Being a Muslim (no different a sects but one religion Islam) I truly enjoyed that debate thank you Charlie...but the point I find disturbing here is that...the Rasta's view that religious leaders e.g priests, imams etc should be killed?!...and religion should die...that's a shocking thing to say...if you believe that strongly keep it to yourself tbh...the Muslim man at the end made a very valid point the Muslims and Christians are feeding the poor through their charities...but the Rasta man is parading around insisting hate and end if religions when it's religions that drive people to charity...anyway fantastic debate thank you again Charlie PEACE
saint87 Thank you for your kind comment. I don't think Rasta man was seriously wanting any clergy killed, he was being dramatic. I was luck to be around at the right time to film these two having their debate. Thanks for watching.
+Charles Veitch he obviously meant it. Otherwise why would he say it. You are clearly against religions that's why you are taking his side? Lol funny guy. Wishing death upon someone is the rasta way right? Follow your conscience
Saint87- yep you heard him clearly, rasta way of life is to follow your conscience. Let Conscience be your guide. Clearly his conscience is telling him religion, priest and imams should be killed and jump like a rabbit as you have witnessed lol.
This is the worst debate I’ve seen on both sides, the rasta guy is judging the religion off of a certain group of people but isn’t actually judging it off the actual book Muslims read from (the Quran)
+Vexilator No there is no initiation in rasta its a way of life that i choose for myself so i choose to follow my conscience an ignore all religious organizations
+Punisher Ultra So you are an expert on who is a rasta look like you know me better than i know my self, I dont talk about anything that i believe just what i know myself believe is a doubt it is not knowing
+Punisher Ultra Iam the one in the video where in the video was i lumping rasta with Islam, I was explaining to those two brothers that they should not be following the ways of those who enter Africa to conquer an enslave our ancestors, God never create Africans as idiots so we dont need any outside religion to come an teach us about God
speak louder doesn't make you are true. Specially with the megaphone. it just mean you are afraid of facing the calm voice around you which speak with sense.
+Proud Bristolian I haven't died so I can't speak of what I don't know. However a religion that happily persecutes others for not following it and killing infidels being seen as a holy thing is not the kind of religion for me. I do t think any other religion is as morally bankrupt as Islam even with their issues
007VitaminD There was only one rasta present there were 2 or 3 ppl speaking for Islam they had enough chance to state their case if you though it was unfair on them you can state your case here,Tell me why should African ppl leave their roots to follow the ways of our invaders an enslavers
007VitaminD I was speaking for myself that day was the first time mi met Charles an his crew but when iam speaking i dont need anyone on my side i speak my own lyrics
007VitaminD I have no crew here now its only me an you talking here iam on my own now,Now what have you got to say have you got anything better to say if your defending those two who follow the ways of those who invade Africa an you think this is correct, You can explain how this is correct,I said both Christianity an Islam are invaders an enslavers of African ppl an that we as African ppl should never follow the ways of those who enslave our ancestors,Look like you disagree you must believe God create Africans as idiots so God had to send outsiders to teach us his words,Funny how God send prophets an his son to them but has never send any African prophet to teach us God must be some kind of racist
Charles, you really blame religion to blame for these wars? How about you blame the people that use religion and misconstrue and manipulate it to their advantage. And if it wasn't for religion they would use other means like RACE as we have seen in the past. Religion was here before you were here on this earth and it will always be her. The guy at 22:40 Speaks the truth.
Maryam Khalil Killings raping enslaving an ignorance was also going on before we were born also,The fact that religion was going on before we were born dont make it right,It is still ignorance to believe when we can know, Belief is a doubt Christianity have between 34 an 35 hundred different sects all believing in Jesus Christ,That represent division not unity they cant unite as one,Islam have between 72 an 73 different sects an they cant unite as one either,The reason for this is they are all believers an to believe represent confusion religion is the height of ignorance
True real ones know Rastafari is not a religion, it's a way of life. Love how bredrin able to think for himself & know that religion is just a tool for division, control & fear. Books written by mortal men just like u & I who put their pants on 1 leg at a time... Power to the real ones ⚛️🕉☯️ Namaste 🙏🏾
im watching this in 2024 and theres no way this debate would have happened now without resorting to name calling or someone interjectiong and screaming nonsense or calling someone racist or a nazi.
A true Rasta would disrespect himself like this. A true Rasta is a peaceful person who humbles himself before God , NOT dancing around calling another person an idiot..A true Rasta would NOT continue the seperation of Blacks by shouting down another.
Iislam is a political legal system, not a religion. Socialism is the extremism of democracy, the rekigion of the state. Judaism, and christianity, in the west are the basis of ethics, of moral behsvior. On the contrary, learning religion can give you tools toavoid beeing brainwashed. Not talking of orthodoxie, but conservative libertarisn kritarchy
Trunks Ace That is just ignorance how can Islam give us our rights black ppl was in Africa a long time b4 Islam ever existed, Ru saying they never know their rights until Islam arrive in Africa about 12 r 14 hundred years ago,Islam is not our God so Islam cannot give us our rights,Islam come 2 Africa 2 conquer they rape kill an enslave they r still all over north Africa, Islam an Christianity enslave an conquer Africa an Africans one using d Bible the other d koran but both of them r criminals an have no idea who God is they r both believers an belief is total ignorance
Im not referring to africans in Africa, there were africans enslaved in Arabia long before islam arrived. After Islam arrived these people were given rights and recognised as humans equal to people of any other complexion. Islam without a shred of a doubt is a religion that, unlike many other religions, eradicates racism. For example a basic belief amongst muslims is that our creator does not look at our appearances or wealth but at our actions.
Trunks Ace So who r the ppl who conquer north Africa where did they come from because they r not Africans an they r the ones who brought this idea of Islam into Africa,Tell me ru a African if ur why do you believe that we as Africans must follow the teachings of our conquers,If ur not African why ru insisting that Africans should obey their conquers,Dont you think Africans should follow their own ways dont you know that Africans have their own intelligence long time before there was any Islam r Christianity why would God put my intelligence in a book in a language i dont understand,Every religion make the same claim that their book is holy an God reveal it 2 them but they r all only belief an all believers r ignorant believers can never know God
Mariusz Zaleski I don't insist you follow or believe in anything. I was merely pointing out that Islam doesn't enslave black people as you suggested it does. There is no compulsion in religion and it is your choice as to wether you wish to follow or not but to ignore a book simply because it isn't in your language is ignorance. Yes all religions do claim their book to be Holy and from God and it is down to you to use your intellect and reason to decide wether they are from God or not.
Nice to see this didn't get violent, always comforting when humans can actually have a debate. This is what unites, this is what teaches, this is what frees us all and this is why we aren't free because these situations make people feel uncomfortable, intimidated, foolish or reaffirm egoic beliefs even stronger if they are perceived to win. Some peoples ego just will not allow them to have an open discussion about there outlook or path they feel they are on is this life, a very sad part of out socially engineering/brainwashing to stop us grouping together to destroy all the things that make us unhappy and crave consumerism. All props to the Muslim man involved, he had a lot of stuff which was quite strong and difficult to take yet he treated himself and those around with respect and patience even when others decide to mock he did not in turn mock them back. He defines himself as Muslim this is true but only because society is forcing him to, I'm sure there are parts he dismisses and parts he connects to. Many religious followers do not follow line for line instead the morals and in between the lines. For me, this destroyed religion entirely, how can anyone define themselves as such if all the lifestyles and outlooks vary so much? Like these gentleman said, they are are separate paths to the same destination yet they still choose one of these paths and refuse to learn from the others. Surely the more you can learn from different perspective the quicker this journey will be. The issue is that both of these men contradict themselves throughout the debate. To my understanding Rastafari encompasses many Christian beliefs and mainly the admiration of Jesus, the saviour the prophet, the SUN of god. Haile Selassie I is also regarded as a prophet or the second coming. Not dis-crediting the bizarre foretelling of an African king uniting nations and the good work he did do. That being said there is no historical record for Jesus Christ, which you would like to think would have been recorded by the many active historians at the time. An easy arguement is the records were destroyed but again we are operating on faith and not knowledge with this. Watch Zeitgeist 2007 , the astrological references/The Metaphor of Jesus/Bethlehem and the journey through the star constellations is incredible. Therefore the 'Rasta' is also a 'sheep' operating on faith and not knowledge. Unless he does not believe in Jesus, but then is he Rasta? All of these problems come down to self definition to create a foundation for your Ego to grow, I am this, you are that why is it so hard to see this is exactly where the problem lies! Its such a shame because if these two men were in plain clothes, said nothing of religious or spiritual titles/names and just has a conversation about life experiences and their perspective i'm sure they would have an incredible enlightening discussion and both learn a lot from each other. That will clearly never happen, now multiply that to the millions/billions scale and you have the world we currently have. This is all part of babylon's plan playing out in front of us. The myth/story of the tower of babel created the language barriers, babylon creates these religous/physical/social/monetary barriers. We need to be wiser. We need to look inside but for some people they don't have time or don't see the importance.Or they have enough money to keep consuming so the love for knowledge/equality and human community is constantly replaced for the lust of things and competition. Which is pretty frightening. You have time to earn, spend, intoxicate and live but not time to learn about the life you live? I think many people have been tricked into, 'Oh well, we'll find out when we die'' looking inside and learning about YOU helps you learn about everyone. That's way you can recognize the paths and things to avoid, cut much of the shit out of your life, have a better time and treat others better because of it. Adore and Endure each other.
J youtube, You never here me mention Selassie once in this video Rasta is not a religion there is no initiation in Rasta so as a Rasta i'am free to make my own choice, I choose to follow my own conscience that has noting to do with any religion or the so call prophets or son of God of religion to a Rasta like me prophets an the son of God Jesus Christ are all false idols created by the criminals who organize religions to divide an rule make money an keep the minds of the believers in continual mental slavery,It's those who are knowledgeable who control planet earth they are the most educated but knowledge without wisdom become dangerous so the knowledgeable become educated fools they will use their knowledge to destroy themselves,We learn knowledge from others but others cannot teach us wisdom only self discipline can do that life is a simple choice between positive an negative good an bad the few who choose to live a honest life comes under the guidance of conscience the teacher of wisdom the internal sun the giver of light the one within all.
Im a rasta and I don't agree with the rasta. Religion is good if you think for yourself and agree with the spiritual scriptures and not let the scriptures think for you
"You're following a book." "Have I told you that every Rasta was good?" Lol. Rasta chad, spitting facts... Respect to the muslim guy for at least not exploding.
+miltiades .miltiades Donkeys are not humans so unless two men were fighting in another man barn the saying make no sense to anyone outside of Greece ,You want to ask yourself why you are making a comment like this here what are your intentions
