Rat Watch, Can This Watch Be Saved?

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Hi Guys, This video is all about my Rat Watch, a Seiko Advan 6106-7710 that was in a complete mess, Can it be saved?? Can it be brought back into service? or should it rest in peace.
I repaired this watch for the challenge of seeing if it would actually run, It took allot of work and mainly in the cleaning stage as it had a full cycle in the watch cleaning machine but was still very dirty so I ended up using hot soapy water in the ultrasonic on a 30 minute cycle, then dry the parts before running through the watch cleaning machine also.
What I learnt was that Seiko's are very robust and that even in this extremely poor state they will still run, and run quite well. They can stand the test of time without any service or poor maintenance yet still keep going. Proper workhorse movements. A true testament to Seiko engineering & design.
This watch would have been made in the 70s, however it is fitted with the incorrect caseback for me to date accurately.
What do you all think, a pointless exercise? or was it worth the challenge. I would love to hear some feedback from you the viewers.
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@MyRetroWatches 5 лет назад

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@Mymatevince 5 лет назад

Always nice to see something bought back to life even if it will not be worn. Seeing it tick again is reward enough . Good job Mike👍😁

@MyRetroWatches 5 лет назад

My Mate VINCE thanks Vince. Some more stripdown / rebuild videos coming next so stay tuned

@Nachtgedicht 5 лет назад

Well done Michael. I think it was absolutely worth the work; it's still a beautiful watch with a special charm. I'd surely wear it!

@robertmduckworth6566 5 лет назад

The "RAT" Watch! A testament to your skills AND Seiko engineering that this could be made to run and accurately. Great work!

@lkkjhtemmexv1838 4 года назад

buy a Bovet , idiot...

@zs1dfr 3 года назад

Your message is: never disregard a Seiko movement, even if it looks like it was dragged through a bush backwards! The action is probably retrievable even if the case isn't! Thank you very much, and well done!

@johncunningham5435 4 года назад

Mike! no watch is a waste of time; perfect way to fine tune one's skill, "regardless the condition".

@WrightsW5 2 года назад

Nice watch, i've never seen one with a calendar like that, interesting look.

@PaulPaulsen 3 года назад

beautiful watch! this needs a full restoration, imo. the older Vostok´s also had 17mm lugs.

@ianmargetts4940 5 лет назад

Great save mikey, looked beyond fixing but your persistence has paid off again!

@MyRetroWatches 5 лет назад

as always Ian, thanks Pal.

@francispalmer9737 4 года назад

All that work to get it going is there any way you could restore it!! that realy would be a challenge. Keep up the good work. Cheers.

@MyRetroWatches 4 года назад

In some ways yes. I could restore all the case and replace the crystal however the dial no. It could be re-done but it would not have the Advan motif. Finding the original bracelet would also be a challenge. I did this watch just for the challenge of seeing if it would even still run.

@RichardT2112 5 лет назад

I can certainly make the TIME to WATCH this project .... that’s ok, I’ll let myself out 😝

@watchmedraw4340 3 года назад

This is an amazing watch. Good job.

@JonTheComputerDoctor 5 лет назад

Excellent and well worth the effort, and I like your improved workshop. Has anyone mentioned you look a bit like Mark Williams from The Fast Show?.

@MyRetroWatches 5 лет назад

hahaha, This week I have been mostly eating Bourbon Biscuits! I have been called many things but never Mark Williams...

@dennisc.1189 4 года назад

It does show how much of a workhorse a watch Seiko is.

@W.Edwardovich 5 лет назад

More vids like this, please! I thoroughly enjoy them.

@MyRetroWatches 5 лет назад

thank you. Rest assured I have so many watch projects I want to bring to the channel it is just choosing which on next.

@Emilmarch 3 года назад

Hey Mike, could you please show how to regulate a mechanical watch when you have time and chance? Thank you again for all the videos. This particular piece looks lovely with the blue strap.

@BillMrWild 5 лет назад

Nice one Mike, you proved a point that a tatty old watch can be brought back to a serviceable condition. Well done i enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing.

@MyRetroWatches 5 лет назад

Thank you Bill.

@seanlannin 3 года назад

Excellent work

@louiscipollajr.2157 5 лет назад

Thanks for posting the video. Great explanation of how the movement is running on the timegrapher and nice work with the microscope showing the wear to the entire watch. Definitely a rat watch. Seiko really could engineer and produce watches in the 70's! Also, nice work with the editing and music.

@MyRetroWatches 5 лет назад

Louis Cipolla Jr. thanks Louis lovely comment. Pleased you liked my editing , something I am only just starting to get the hang of.

@stefanlos2046 5 лет назад

Wow , very good video . Have you ever tried to do a watch from parts ( movement from x , Dial from y, case from z ) ? .

@MyRetroWatches 5 лет назад

Hi, Not really. I am usually restoring the watch with the correct movement. I have enough parts to make such a watch but it is unlikely I would do this.

@adrianbirkett594 5 лет назад

Ah your not crazy at all!, seiko 23 jewels always gets my interest. I would have tried the same myself, but I normally fail!😭. Great job, lovely old BATTERED!!. Watch!😂. New dial and your laughing!. Adrian. 🍀🍀

@tcniel 5 лет назад

Good job I love bringing them back and wearing them

@MyRetroWatches 5 лет назад

Thanks Tom, yes that feeling you get when they first tick again is brilliant and ever so slightly addictive.

@ruperthartop7202 Год назад

Great video Mike

@jeroenb14 4 года назад

hey Mike. I've been following you for a while now and I think you're making great videos this one from the "seawolf" is another one! awesome I can't wait for the next video where you clean the watch ! ill Watching you whit great pleasure keep it up! greetings from Holland

@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands Год назад

Any updates on this watch? You might have added some new skills since 4 years ago :) Replace the glass, polish the indicators, it's a nice watch :)

@supersaiyanyoshi1175 Год назад

Advans are the reason I got into watches shame to see this watch was in such bad condition 😂

@John_Longbow 5 лет назад

With no talent for delicate work whatsoever, i enjoy these videos immensely. I wish i had only a fraction of your skills, in this case 1/21600 would do😉 I would be pleased with that. Thanks for sharing.

@MyRetroWatches 5 лет назад

john johnesn someone has been watching the vibrations per hour score for this movement 😉. Thanks for your kind words.

@weaksaucep4539 4 года назад

looks good i think you should refurbish it completely except for the face , any recommendations for a all in one kind of basic watch repair kit i looked on your site and dident see anything

@MyRetroWatches 4 года назад

Love the name! thanks for your comment. As for kits there is non so to speak. Ones that are out there are generally rubbish. You need good screwdrivers , one set of decent tweezers, I personally use Dumon 00 Hi Tech but they are pricey. A movement holder, rodico and some magnification. I recommend optivisors as they free up both hands and you have full vision of both eyes.

@vaskoboja 5 лет назад

I love those rat watches, i got two Seiko ladies watches and one of them was in s similar condition, I cannot believe that with a help from RU-vidI managed to clean and successfully assemble (twice!) it and it's running fine now! I can't attach a photo here though.

@a.aguilar 5 лет назад

This watch is running very healthy now, Mike. I hope someday I'll get results that good! 🙄

@baconatordoom 5 лет назад

I have a question. I have enough watches to wear a different one everyday for like 4 months. Half of them are automatic/mechanical. Some I don’t wear at all just collector pieces. How often and how long should I run them without the oils and grease drying up? Or is it better to not run them at all and keep them in the watch box? Also when you buy a new watch. Is there a break in period for the movement?

@MyRetroWatches 5 лет назад

Sorry I really thought I had replied but clearly not! There is no running in time on a new watch or a serviced watch. When I am regulating them after a service I tend to leave them 24 hours before another test but this is to let the oil distribute and settle. I am not a fan of watch winders but its personal preference , I think its like jacking your car up and keeping the engine running, you will add miles and wear and tear unnecessarily. I would still suggest that all are wound at times. I cannot say when the grease & oil will dry up. could be years. It will depend on how you store them . heat, cold etc. With these Seikos they seem to last 20-30 years without a service although that is not recommended. better movements can have finer tolerances on parts meaning wear on pivots will come easily if not serviced regularly.

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@garyfracassi4412 4 года назад

Good caricature

@skjerk 5 лет назад

Deffo crazy. But in a good way😃 - Love it!

@MyRetroWatches 5 лет назад

Carsten Skjerk Haha I can only agree with you 😂

@bondoff 5 лет назад

Wow! How did you manage to remove all those rusty screws without damaging your screwdrivers? Thanks for the video!

@MyRetroWatches 5 лет назад

I just unscrewed them. No real damage on the drivers that I noticed. I have spare blades for all sizes I have on my bench anyway and to change regularly. Thank you.

@grundybasa240 2 года назад

Hello, I have the same watch (6106c-7710). I noticed that when I opened the watch, the movement was very loose inside to the point that the whole movement is popping off and its just being held by the Crown stem when the watch is on its back side. The movement ring is present. I am at a loss, do you have any insight? Thank you.

@joesifford5540 5 лет назад

Hello Mike, I enjoy your videos. I wonder if you have any opinion on Vostok watches? I have several amphibias and I love them all and seem damn near indestructible. Any thoughts??

@MyRetroWatches 5 лет назад

joe sifford thanks for your comment. Sorry I have no experience with Vostok many in the Facebook Group like them.

@joesifford5540 5 лет назад

OK, thanks Mike. Was curious

@mans4104 5 лет назад

That watch just needs a new movement and the new case with a dial. : )

@MyRetroWatches 5 лет назад

mans410 haha 😂

@robertjordan7323 Год назад

Good Day, I just watched this video and I can't help but wonder if it's still running until now?

@MyRetroWatches Год назад

Yes! I don’t wear it all that often but when I do it tells the time fine.

@heyhocodyo01 4 года назад

Anyone know what year this style case came out i bought a watch with the same style case and I'd like to know more about it

@kiwicory100 2 года назад

hey can you tell us what your camera/ microscope set up is?

@dodgydruid 5 лет назад

Must be you that's buying all the Seiko's off ebay hehe I do have a very lovely gold ladies Seiko but missing its stem which I am waiting to come from parts foreign to arrive. I have some old hoary Sekonda clockwork watches to play with, all seem to run fast, the quite old Timex windup I have also is a fast fast runner gaining a minute in ten minutes. The Seiko 1986 LCD has resisted stripdown on the movement so its now to check the caps and mounted components /sigh

@MyRetroWatches 5 лет назад

+Ian Watson thanks Ian for your comment. I am not actually actively buying right now to give you all a chance. I also have far to many and allot here still to do. It’s the repairing that I enjoy. Fast running watches can be many things , good regulation , service, magnetism or sticking hair springs to name a few. I have a Timex that also runs fast no matter what u do

@solstar4778 4 года назад

So much dirt Wow !

@SouravBiswas-mr5un 5 лет назад

Dear Mike, I am upset with seiko automatic movement watch. The watch movement is4r36 movement. Getting 4 minutes fast in 7 days.. I found miyota and Indian make HMT auto are far better. Any suggestion. Please note timegrapher is not available here in kolkata...

@MyRetroWatches 5 лет назад

There will be a reason why the Seiko is gaining so much. poorly regulated, sticking hairspring, magnetized would be the main culprit. Without a timegraper it is hard to regulate effectively. There are phone apps one of which I did a video on but even they are not an ideal solution. You have to remember its not the design of the movement that makes it run fast as I would not have left Seiko like that. Something will be causing it.

@PandorasBox-st7tk 5 лет назад

I loved your video!!!

@adrianbirkett594 5 лет назад

Hi Mike, i have a Seiko sportsmatic. Sea Horse. On the inside it says Seikosha sportsmatic , 2451, 17 jewels. Number on back is 3911348, think it's early 60s. Are there rare?. It's automatic. Regards, Adrian 🍀🍀

@-webfootoctopus7896 5 лет назад

goodgood

@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands Год назад

@lkkjhtemmexv1838 4 года назад

yes can be saved and reconditionned , but it doenst worth , seikos are piece of shit look at the time machine, 180 degres of amplitude , and when turn the watch values change dramactically, its all fuked up Need deep recondition, i thing crap should be thorow away or maybe you want to have your time in that crappy watch.

@47zero 5 лет назад

Love your channel. I reckon this Seiko is too far gone. Would be delighted if you prove otherwise of course. IG: @the.radio.room

@MyRetroWatches 5 лет назад

Thank you. It is too far gone to be a nice looking watch but as a test to see if I have the ability to make it run well it was a very good example. It runs very well considering its condition though. Thank you for your support.