Rating All Tier 8 Premium Tanks in World of Tanks 2023! 

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Holy shit 55 minutes. A LOT of T8 premium tanks in the game.

a written list would be nice

Nice. Happy holidays

I'd move the Kanonen 105 to be equal to the CDA 105. I recently 3 marked this tank and I found it's true calling, it's stupid mobile with a tier 10 medium tank gun. It trades armor and some DPM for higher pen, mobility and camo. This thing can easily keep up with light tanks (70kph)and can easily deal with tier 10 heavies with 268mm standard or 330mm HEAT. I had a blast playing this thing as a cheeky little sniper.

a written list would be nice, its insanely hard to find specific tanks, time stamps? by rank? something?

As soon as you put the CDC above poo tier, I stopped watching. Also imagine putting the Bourrasque in anything other than S tier...

I am not sure how I got my ISU-130, now that you mention it… thanks for the content mate!

chill vid def want to see more

Is there a written out list of this for future reference?

Think you missed the mighty STA-2. Nice list, give everything s-tier a small nerf and everything poo tier a small buff and premiums would be fixed (except for the bz and ebr that would need further nerf)

Agree with most of them, I would switch borrasque and progetto though, would much rather have a borrasque on my team these days, (as long as it wasn't the 'TD' variant...)

my t-103 has nearly 3100 DPM, and the turret works in most battles. You have to adjust to a weird playstyle where you are a heavy tank but not really. But the great accuracy and great alpha make it a decent credit maker.

Bourrasque is definitely S for the very reason you said, it breaks the MM because you can play it as a light and its fine. It's one of the best tanks in the game, way more useful than a Skorpion in a good player's hands. Edit: No way JT88 is equal to JT prototype, JT prototype is really good, JT88 is awful. No way Defender is C tier, tank is incredibly strong armor wise still and 440 alpha. Easy B tier. No way K2 is as good as Defender, nor is Kv5. Is-6 is C tier because of prem mm.

Great. Now you can do this for tier 6 and 7 in same video

Reasons why they can’t/wont nerf premiums is because once they do people will stop buying them, and stop buying loot boxes, cause lets be honest the only reason people buy premium tanks isn’t so that they can make more credits, but because it’s better than the tech tree tanks, and it makes them feel superior/special.

The Lowe is funny. It reminds me of back in the day, when it was the ultimate bot tank. Everytime I saw one, it was always a bot lol.

Haha I bought the GSOR 1008 for gold now on holiday ops and I like it.

I have the 703II, but even with the best ammo, I still seem to have problems penetrating many tanks, but it is fun. Thanks for the video.

scorpion and SU in different tiers. livin on the edge

Borat is S tier. Period. It has carry potential, where Shptk for example doesn't. And it's mainly because of how spotting mechanics works. If the gun accuracy is bad (though I'm getting hit 2x from over 400m regularly by them), then no problem, just sneak close, demolish your prey and then run away, in many cases even before many tanks will be capable of turning their turret (turning together with whole body). If the prey stays alive, you can come back in those 20-22s and finish the job - it's impossible to predict if you come over the same way, another or just go to another flank with the mobility of this stuff. It needs some combination of nerf in 1,2 or 3 of those: camo, mobility, reload, single shell damage, view range. Progetto compared to that is way worse in most situations, just simply because of alpha and worse camo/spotting. Lansen and LIS - for some reason LIS's gun trolls me much more than lansen's - and I thought it will be other way around - but both are comparable. TS-5 imo is not S tier anymore - it might have been when it was released.

I would personally put the Type 63 on B tier, at least. If it got a bit more turret armor or got that O-ring weakspot around the gun removed, it could go to A tier. Yes, it's not an amazing and ridiculously strong premium, but it's a very balanced tank. It's what premiums ought to be, what every tank in the game is ought to be. And it's really interesting to play, too. It's strength is in its versatility. It can brawl with a good hull down position, like on Fjords south side (never had a game on Fjords where I got fucked from the chokepoint, the losses were always the enemy flanking through the middle and me getting overwhelmed). If it gets a bad map where hull-down isn't an option, it can use it's speed to go play with medium tanks if you get a turbo on it or further away behind the beefier heavies. The fact that it's second equipment slot can be mobility or firepower gives it the ability to either go and play long range with insane accuracy or opt for more speed to get to good positions early. The -12 degrees gun depression does wonders on the open, hilly maps which seem to be 80% of matchmaking today. You can make rotations very easily and with its unique gun cooling mechanic, you can bring that thing down to 0.33/0.24 dispersion with just standard vents and food, which allows you to either snipe, or trade DPM to take accurate shots at tanks with small weakspots with just 2-3 more seconds waiting after reloading. If you want to, you can put the second slot as firepower and give it Improved Aiming to get it even lower and that's before Brothers In Arms, even. I just love that I never feel like I'm out of options with this tank. It's standard ammo is not really good, but it's HEAT has 290 pen, at Tier VIII for a heavy, that's good. It might not be some insanely good premium, but it's not a bad tank at all and it's one of the more interesting tanks I've played so far. It's fun to play!

About the Turtle I - I definately think it needs a debuff on the dpm.. I got one - and don't get me wrong I love it atm.. Atleast for the dmg output but with a mediocre crew and a gunrammer - sitting at tier 8 - it has 3743 dpm.. that's too much for ANY tank in tier 8.. EDIT: And merry christmas all!

@MaxGamingFPS very nice video, I have one suddestion for you to try :) try AMX CDC with optics, CVS and low noise. that tank on open maps can surprise a lot of tanks, can even bully enemy team but rushing in some interesting position and spotting them but you have to be carefull and always have a way out. I know it is considered as avoid and I had that in my category as well but then I tried this setup on open maps and it is hidden gem for me now

I mostly agree with your list 95%. I let Progetto 46 go lower in A, and TS5 lower in B and TS 75 would go lower too. Otherwise, I say you are right. Thanks for the video 👍

Hello there, i started playing this game 10 years ago, not continously but i had my moments. i am far from expert, or really good player. But i believe someone should chose a vehicle based of his/her needs and a vehicle that in the same time, suits the playstyle. If you want a vehicle just to make credits, it is usually different situation than to have fun. However if you combine these two things then this vehicle is probably suited for you. Let me give you an example from personal aspect. for me the best tier 8 fun wise, is bourasque, but it is fully pimped, with the best crew, coffee, bond equipment and lots of premium ammo. the camo, speed and burst is godlike. i even like it more than BZ or w/e else in game. I usually avoid to use such setups for my tank. but i noticed that the combination of benefits make this tank truly overpowered, while someone who plays the tank with normal crew no food or special equipment may have an entire different experience. But the profit potential in that way, is quite questionable... (However i can recognize than proggeto is better even if i do like bourrasque far more, simply because it can do pretty well even without special equipment or many premium rounds..) On the other hand with thanks such 122tm i can make a fortune even if i dont particurarly enjoy the playstyle, because it has good base pen and also it is easy to play. Now for me a tank that has both credit making potential, and is also quite fun to play is su130pm. Also in my personal opinion su130pm can be better than scorpion for the majority of people perfomance wise, simply because scorpion has terrible camo after firing which means you got to be quite experienced at the game and the mechanics... I felt like every time i shoot the gun i was spotted, while in view range, where with su130pm this was not the case most of the times. For you the ideal vehicle might be something else, but i hope you get the idea

I've never been able to make the BZ work. The moment I get enough above a ridge to aim at something tier sixes are ripping my turret face apart. Yeah, that armor, right? WHAT armor, in my experience.

can you make list for best creditmakers too?

The bourrasque is my favorite tank that I main on my account. I run an all bond equipment setup including vents, optics, and vert stabs on most maps. On scout maps, I run the same setup, but CVS instead of the vert stabs. Having played the bourrasque and counting myself as a good player, I would argue the bourrasque's terrible gun stats is only countered with experience. Just minute gameplay details like movements and muscle memory makes the gun way more workable. So at least for me, not getting too caught up on the equipment and instead, focusing on actually playing and practicing with the gun is the better solution.

I really enjoy Skoda t56 and all new meta tanks, but Defender will stay the best and most loving vehicle for me.

Ahhhh, the voice of choclate going through the tanks.

The link is not working for Tier List

Cheers Max

Pretty much agreed besides a couple of choices

Imo putting obj 703 2 on A tier is a little to low :)

My child brain was creasing every time you said “poo”. Just for that, thank you 😂

What would be the best current market premium tanks?

Is there a reason the Senlac is bad? I got one from the bond shop and really enjoy bullying other tiers since it actually has dpm while being more sneaky than most other tier 8s.

Sees new video Sees like button *apply*

Solid list the only changes i would make is moving the CDC to poo tier and i would move the kampanzer 07 to S tier, the tank is seriously underrated, shreds any other tier 8 med and has completely broken HE rounds

T42 has to be in low C, you have to spam gold if you are going to play it. If you need to spam gold for it to be good, it isn't good. It’s not worth it.

T 92 is pain. The entire vehicle needs buffed

You forgot one of the most broken things on ebr, it's he, wehn ot has a he clip loaded it can deal 550 damage and a little lynx isn't going to be able to do much against that

The strv81 is not actually just a reskin of the primo victoria Sabbaton tank, it has a different amount of crew

Have to disagree with the SU-130PM and I also have the Skorp. The SU is more flexible due to its better camo and low profile, you can actually be more aggressive in the right situations. The Skorp is an auto pen if you get it wrong due to its high profile, both S tier imho.

What is the best premium 8 that I can buy tonight? Not some mission based shitter that is op as f, or a tank that was sold for 10 days 1 or 2 years ago

I actually really like the M41D too, I have the even90 and i have more fun in the M41.

tier list for tier 9s and tier 8s regulars plz

6:50 Because they did that once at the beginning and got lawsuits as a reaction.

I think the ISU 130 may have been a reward to mods in the game some years back

ISU-130 has been sold in Asia server numerous times

wish you put a list with the final results, and time stamps

The Revalorise has a standard APCR shell with a 1460 m/s. I don't understand why you think that's slow. I'm not saying the tank is great, but it's certainly not because of slow shell velocity.

With something like the Chieftain/T95, it's really damn sad, that all it takes to ruin a tank from good performance, is either low alpha, or a cupola. I generally love it, if people don't hit the cupola but just the turret, the shot f's right off.

Is it possible to get list form? I cannot understand your english

My best premium tank right now is the German Löwe. It's a good tank I believe.

6:20 Type-59 was nerfed few times.

I actually find the Bisonte much more enjoyable. The gun surely is very inaccurate with bad dispersion, but I still mostly hit with it

AT 15 is so bad that Max totally forgot about it

Although the viperas gun is kind of troll, I can’t see how In any world the T-103 is better then it.

My G 👊

"I don't know if it's poo but I heard a guy say it. . . "

**Putting M6A2E1 in "C" tier** My mind: "so u have choosen..... Death"

Burraque is s tier over progetto simply for the camo. Its much esyer to play burrasque. Burrasque has view advantage againt prettymuch every tank and get to shoot twice at most tanks. Other than that i prettymuch agree with the list. Maybe bisonte is bit better than you give it credit for and T34-3 is in my opinion almost close as makes no difference pound for pound as good as type 59.

To nerf the 176, the should buff all the other tanks in the game.

i agree with some of your takes and I definetly don't agree with others, but we all have our different preferances and playstyles so overall I respect it.

Tanks G.G. lists 159 tier 8 premiums, ( including duplicates for F.L., reskins etc), so I'm not at all surprised if you don't have access to them all, only W.G.'s chosen few will get press accounts with all of them! Anyone who moans about missing tanks out need to remember that

NICE TIER LIST, QUASI PERFECT I'D SAY BUT NOW PEOPLE NEED A WOT MAPS TIER LIST. NOBODY DO THAT.

You could insert the names of the tanks in the video... It would be nicer and more watchable. This way it seems empty and incomplete.

i'd really want to disagree with this list, but i really can't. though i'd still put the superpershing in A tier, even though it's not as strong as them just because I think the tank is *really* enjoyable. it's very trollish Armour and limited MM make it really powerful. I like it more than the patriot, especially in the Hull. The IS-6 too is still good. yes it has a bit lackluster Pen, but the Armour is troll enough and it's fast enough where you can make the tank work.

If we have "Poo" for summed up D-F tier we do need "APPLY" instead of S-Tier for the upcoming tiers list(s). 😏 Besides, thanks for sharing this tier list with your personal take on all the tanks. As always, this is a "sensitive and subjective" topic and even though some people might be even more annoyed by you putting their favourite tank into the poo-section than being told how to properly pronounce Redshire this tier list is based. Also made me buy back my Renegade and Iron Arnie and enjoy them with two other lunatics 🤪

didn't they nerf the type 59?

List really needs the broken OP tier above S, for the BZ-176 and Skoda T56. Also I kinda think anything with 240 alpha that doesnt have an autoloader or reloader is just not playable anymore. Tanks like Fv4202 with 230 being the worst and stuff like CDC, STA2 etc. Even going to 250 alpha with the mutz kinda feels a bit better. And the 280 alpha of the Panther 8.8 makes it a tier above with its dpm.

Timestamps would be great

Jag tiger 8.8 is a machine gun it fire so fast.

Nice review, LOL on the GSOR 1008 Other than that, only main gripes would be that I think the Bourrasque is absolutely busted and needs a nerf, ANNND I think the Vipera is way better than how you rated it. I hope you keep the Poo tier for next time. Haha

How is FCM 50T and higher than Defender is beyond me.

Revalorise has the fastest standard shell velocity of all the similarly gunned mediums, such as the mkpz, gsor 1010, blackpanzer (panzer 58), etc, and maybe even the fastest standard shell velocity of all t8 mediums. It also has better dpm then the sniping ones with similar average damage, and personally, the gun treats me significantly better. Is it a hard tank to play? I wouldn't disagree on that, but I would disagree on your ranking, though that's just my opinion

XM, Type63 and AMBT Poo? :D Vipera C xD

I love te AMBT 😢

I would beg to disagree on the ShPTK-TVP; it shouldn't be any higher than "B". As much as I want to like/recommend it, it only has a 50.72 / 51.52% AvgTkWR / AvgPlayerWR for a -0.8%WR differential (NA). In other words, it only works for well for purples; making it not a tank that can be recommended. [edited:typo]

6:54 Imo a better change is to change the pen on its standard and premium rounds. Make the HE 190, 180 (same as Caliban) or even 170 but make the AP round 240 or 250. With this standard pen, it will still struggle against tier IXs and Xs but at least you can deal with tier 8 and below tanks better. And maybe still nerf the roof but imo, nerfing the pen on its premium rounds is important

IS-3A is not B tier. It is the best tournament 1vs1 tank, not any other tank comes close. If you see a BZ-176, it is dead meat. But besides that, great list!

Those BZ-176, Skoda T-56 are on my list to eliminate them in my O-HO>l:)

BZ-176 needs a buff, make it a tier 9 premium 😂

The t92 is an amazing tank, I don't get all the hate towards it, I perform pretty damn amazing with it and I'm a terrible player. And who even needs gold round on a light tank for fucks sake? I don't even need to fucking shoot in it to get results.

Huh? I like the GSOR1008. It's not as good as the Skorpion, but I think it is still a decent TD. I've got a Renegade and I'm not that impressed with it -- you get just penned in the cupola a few times and it is back to the garage.

Great video! I'd move the Lowe up one to A, it's a great tank, prints credits and is usable in Tier 10. I'd move the T-832 down to B, it's a one trick pony with a strong turret and terrible hull.

XM66F is brilliant tank

finally another person that hates playing in the bourasque

Had to watch in at least 1.25 speed, so much rambling instead of facts and solid logic

Strange list man tbh. There are quite some really good tanks that are rated far too low and some avg or mediocre tanks rated A or B-tier. Overall most of it makes sense but in my humble opinion great players should be able to review/rank/judge tanks regardless of what their opinion is or whether they can make it work. Even players like Skill4ltu and Dakillzor and other have some nonsensical opinions. Sometimes it even being a ''skill-issue'''. The fact that a great player cannot make certain tanks work well enough doesnt mean they dont have (great) potential. For example, Daki hates IS-7 as if its below avg or even bad. Its still avg or even good tho. The gold pen is probably the greatest drawback. On the other hand Skill4ltu just loves autoloaders and most of the time he cannot find in within himself to rate them worse which is what most of them are in reality. The meta favors cyclic guns for those who dont know. With 5-15 simulators u need a high dpm guns with the flexibility that only cyclic guns offer. (S. conq, E5 etc.). Autoloaders are not even close to that level of flexibility. In short, an autoloader is both a curse and a blessing. Blessing: the window of doing dmg when reloaded has great potential aka burst fire + ability to trade 1 shot for a whole clip. Curse: highly dependent on the opportunity to catch enemies off guard, garbage dpm for most autoloaders, especially when u miss some shots, the effective dpm gets even worse. This results in a hard-to-master-playstyle for most players because the tanks are limited and inflexible compared to tanks with cyclic guns.

Really gonna skip out on the STA-2?

From the perspective of a pro player, from the average perspective it might look some different.

t77 has 800 dpm confirmed🤣

The page with tier list is not working, you did hard work, but really pointless for people trying to find the tank they need to compare.

Brother i think you dont give the t-34-3 enough credit. its not op but the fact that it has pref mm and a punchy gun with usable armor, its pretty dang good

Maaan after bz176 was released other new tanks is sht 😂

I agree with almost everything, but the bourrasque really pissed me off. How the fu*k he can be in the same tier as Patriot? its the tank with one of the highest skill ceiling along the whole game and i can easily outplayed all tanks shown there with it (Even the most broken ones).

Tbh i remember better days in WOT when was few premium tanks and they all was worse than tech tree tanks,where you know why you grind game and why are you training your crew for,these days what you grind for what?why you need tech tree tanks?no its not nostalgia rush just sayn game was better without hull down monsters,where you have to learn weak spots on tanks and they actually exist on tanks,where gold ammo was actually gold ammo and almost nobody was using that,trust me on this guys there are a lot casual players like me that come to game few times in year and says i am not playn this anymore.