This is unironically my favourite genre of video, analyzing non-serious media that are loosely connected to a historical setting in a super scrutinizing historical lens
The Welsh Viking has one that reviews How to train your Dragon through a historical lens. Title: "How VIKING is How To Train Your Dragon?" I'm going to head over there and rewatch it.
You can find short films, historical reviews, comedy skits, and now Shrek on this channel, which just goes to show that much like an onion, Karolina has layers.
I think the mixture of costumes from various eras works well in the universe because not all of the fairytales are from the same century- It makes perfect sense that there would be influences from different time periods.
Yeah. I just now realize that is odd that french baroque costume in medievel Shrek universe. but I think the intention was to make Shrek and Fiona feel unconfortable and out of place in that scene.
And I think it really makes sense that the fairy godmother and Prince Charming look like they're wearing costumes because it shows how fake their characters are.
@@leonardobazail8740 because Fairy Godmother always grants you a wish. And wish is a famous (for it's cheep quality) clothing company, so pun intended
@@nani2155 I didn't read that to be sarcastic to be honest. There are tons of people in the internet who never heard of Shrek.. you know, the young ones. I have never completed any Shrek movie btw.. Shrek's humor's not my cup of tea.
Karolina is gonna start her own Polish version of either Dreamworks or Disney and EVERY last costume in every film she produces WILL always be historically accurate, no matter how trivial it might seem to many.
Considering that she has a film degree, totally possible. She only needs a producer who will fully support it (because money and historical themed films are expensive 🙈)
@@DragonriderEpona To her noble cause, i am willing to invest exorbitantly 21 (in words: eleventeen) euromonies (€€€) in her future studio. I know, i'm truly selfless, no need to thank me.
@@peccantis the most notable differences would be in the colors used and the style in which they’re applied. Heavy lip liner (not a staple in the 30s) in a dark shade of purple over a nude or pink, a harsh thin brow, purple blush (often used to contour too), and very heavy smoky eye looks were pretty standard in the scene. The main similarities would be the brow shape and eyeshadow color, but the application was a lot more subtle in the 30s.
It's also similar to classic panto dame makeup (that I always assumed those characters were). For anyone unfamiliar with pantomimes, the dame is a female character played by a male actor and is often played as a caricature of that character. Some examples are the ugly sisters in Cinderella and Widow Twanky in Aladdin.
Absolutely love how Charming put on a Shrek cosplay outfit to convince Fiona. Meanwhile the real Shrek is out here getting to wear clothes that are made to fit him now and choosing something a little different! Kinda cute detail :)
Our mediaeval studies professor actually used Shrek to explain the archetypes and story models of heroic epic I hope she finds this video. She's going to love it
Ok so question? If only Shrek's little vest belonged to a human: Is there someone in town who is making ogre sized clothing or is Shrek into handsewing linen shirts and shoemaking?
I'm actually shocked at how accurate these clothes were, especially the first movie where they all also seemed to match the roughly the same century. When a kids animation movie does historical clothing better than some costume drama's .... >.
shreks li'l vest, i have decided personally, is either a crop top vest situation for fashion purposes, or a practical sports bra to keep the girls in place. the sports bra makes sense to me if we're going period, because anything supportive like a corset or stayswould be worn outside the shift or chemise or undershirt, and Shrek is not concerned with people being around, so it would be the equivalent of him walking around in bootyshorts and a sports bra today. (this is a joke dont come for me i do not think it is genuinely a supportive garment but haha funny)
I'm a Viking reenactor and within the group I'm part of we figured out a way to make authentic Viking age Shrek kit. I took up this task with glorious purpose and have made a brown wool jerkin (since leather is not suitable for such garments, and it's based on wool fragments from Hedeby) and will be making hose in order to make this early medieval ogre into a reality
Now THAT is a cross-over I didn't know I needed, but love!! 😂 Very cool to see people both being serious about historical Costuming AND having the maximum amount of silly fun with it 😁
Ok, weird thing I just noticed. Charming's outfit in the third movie looks _really_ similar to the one Harald (Fiona's dad) wore back when he was human; so... do you think when the Prince took over the reign, he also got access to the king's wardrobe? Is he wearing the King's old clothes?
Well observed! Although they'd have to be veeeery altered to fit, if that was the case?! 🤪 Loved Karolina's note re. Charming's essentially doing a Shrek cosplay in #2 following the bait-&-switch, that was a great wee detail!
This was an unexpected topic, but you served it well! The costumes really do give an air of "high school play". I always thought Shrek's vest was made from gator skin, hence the texture. Maybe it was his when he was younger, and he kept wearing it despite his body growing. Stylistically it helps emphasize his large, onion-shaped belly, too.
It also made me wonder if it might be a bit of a nod to the short vest or jacket of Renaissance Scotland, given that Meyers is doing the Scots (ish) accent?
The surprisingly historically accurate fashion added so much personality and charm to the franchise and i don't even know if it was intentional because the making of the movie was so heavily motivated by spite toward Michael Eisner's Disney. Being "Shreked" (moved from the Prince of Egypt crew to the Shrek crew) was even used as a punishment from what i heard.
1:04 not only did it start development in the 90s, the late great Chris Farley was the original voice of Shrek and he had allegedly done like 95% of the movie when he passed away forcing them to recast Mike Myers in the role which totally changed the tone of the film!
historical drama costume drinking game: take a shot whenever you see a minor/background character who's more accurately dressed than the main characters
Timing literally could not have been more perfect, I just started rewatching these movies after noticing they're on Hulu. I've just finished the first and I gotta say it aged amazingly well, I like even it more as an adult than I did as a kid
Honestly, I think all the movies (except #3 which we just pretend never happened!) are pretty darn good! As per most DW movies, nicely layered with stuff to appeal to both adults & kids. The only bits that really irked me were Fiona's weirdly varying levels of bad-assery (potentially explainable by her varying levels of self-esteem though?) and Shrek's apparently reliving the same exact character arc in every movie. But then, I guess we all know people IRL who never really change or grow that much, either... 🤦🏻♀️
I seem to remember seeing Mike Myers on a talk show saying he had a Scottish driver during the filming tell him, "I heard your accent, Michael, and you sound like crap!"😂
this video was great, im definitely sending to so many of my friends, but hearing "pixarized" about pib 2 was so sad bestie 😭 the movie is definitely sony animation inspired, like spiderverse and mitchells v the machines 😭
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well I’m talking mostly about character designs here, faces just scream Pixar to me 😩
Ironically, I just happen upon a Bardcore rendition of Holding Out for a Hero. Someone in the comment section pointed out that it was the historically accurate Shrek. The music video is gloriously animated in the medieval style paintings. For those who wanted to check it out, it was on the channel of the artist by the name Hildegard von Blingin'
I love Hildegard’s stuff! Have you seen her collabs with Algal the Bard? Also, the collab with Bernadette Banner when Bernadette did the Wheel of Time blue gown. *chef’s kiss*!
1:18 in one of the movies Fiona's father complained about an old crusade wound acting up so it could be after the 15th century (or 1291 if we assume he was talking about the crusades to Jerusalem if Jerusalem even exists in the Shrek universe) there was also an anti-ottoman "crusade" which ended around 1699 so it could be 17th or even 18th century
“It’s just not doing it for me. It’s giving Spirit. It’s giving Wish.” 😆😆😆😆 Jeez, Karolina. I mean I agree, but don’t have to come for the artist’s existence 😆
No one else going to comment on the green earrings and green shirt? It’s a nice little nod to Shrek while talking about Shrek. I’m here for it. Great fit. 😌
The armour of the Duloc Knights in the first Shrek movie is also actually a pretty good fit for the 15th century, a lot of it seems to be inspired by german gothic plate, you also get a lot of sallets.
Puss in Boots was added as a Latin/Hispanic character. It didn't dawn on me that other cultures wouldn't be aware that Puss in Boots is based off his voice actor's former role. Antonio Banderas played Zorro in 1998. Zorro would draw a 'Z' with a sword the same way Puss in Boots drew a 'P' into the tree in Shrek 2. [Edited: 6:06 timestamp]
There's nothing latino about Puss in Boots lmao?? Did you not hear his accent? Antonio Banderas is Spanish af too so not sure where your confidence comes from.
Shrek, the original book, is a Jewish book. I chose to believe that the vest is a nod to later forced-dress wool hats Jews were made to wear in Eastern Europe, where Shrek's author's parents are from.
I don't see it. How do you get from a hat to a vest? To me it looks like a sheepskin sort of protection. Ogres are usually depicted swinging clubs. Shoulder padding would be a resting place for a club. From a medieval pov, and one who's carried heavy objects on their shoulders knows how it can dig in and bruise, cutting off circulation and causing neck pain. But a hat morphing into a vest? On an ogre. That's some stretch.
I notice a sever lack of attention given to Donkey's period accurate fashion sense. He is never contrasted against the setting, other characters, or what a donkey's fit would have been in any of the periods. aSS tier
OMG, I never knew how much I needed this ranking list for the fashion in Shrek until I got the notification! Great way to start off another Monday, and I can't wait to see what you have to say for Fairy Godmother 🥰
Karolina you should rate costumes from LOTR, Hobbit and infamous ROP . Not by historical accuracy but just your preferences. There is so much variety that I think it would be fun to analyse some of them
This makes me wonder, what would the Polish equivalent of a Scottish accent be? Is there a dialect that would fit the same vibe?? Kashubian? Idk 🤷🏻♂️ Edit: I cannot finish this comment without shouting out the real star of this show, Meme Mom's green earrings 🥰💚
Stereotypically it'd be wither Podlasie or Śląsk, but you have to remember Polish cinema doesn't do accents nearly to the extent English or US does, so I think it's overall a better idea to have Zamachowski speak naturally instead of a forced or fake accent (plus we kind of get Kraków/ Małopolska with Stuhr anyway :D).
Totally. I personally preferred the dubs without forced accents that still however retained the personality of the characters (Minsc from Baldur’s Gate being another character). It is not that strong accents do not exist, it is just that I always feel USA media is weird about them, and anything appearing ‘foreign’ to them in general
There's definitely dialects when it comes to translating accents in other languages....for example in Italian goldilocks and her family had an abruzzese accent that's from Abruzzo, in South Italy - to be more specific near Puglia. Forgive me i don't know if you understand italian geography 😂
I rewatched the first two Shrek movies recently and was curious about the historical accuracy of the clothing so this truly was exactly what I needed hahaha
Ahhh! ❤️😍 You showed Giuliano de' Medici's portrait. I've always thought that Lord Farquaad looked exactly like Lorenzo il Magnifico, which happens to be Giuliano's brother. Thank you for the 15 minutes of pure entertainment. I'm here for this kind of content 😍
I'd argue that Puss In Boots: The Last Wish's animation style takes a lot of its inspiration from Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, which is a Sony property NOT a Disney/Pixar property. I personally really like the new animation style because it reminds me more of a painting, but that's just my opinion.
Lol the red carpet reporter was just Joan Rivers, so her outfit looked like some of Joan Rivers more iconic 80s and 90s fits Edit: Thanks for sacrificing yourself for our entertainment, Karolina!
All Critics: "Puss in Boots 2's animation shows a further trend in the animation industry to move away from the estetic Pixar established for the industry and seems incapable of moving away from. We are about to enter an era where DreamWorks looks better than Pixar!" Karolina: "The new Puss in Boots just looks so Pixar"
@@saaya8964 It looks more like the new wave of animation, that Sony started with Spider-verse and also used in Michaels against the Machines. Which is very different to anything Pixar has ever done.
In Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, the fashion term you were looking for to describe the "rented look" peasant costumes is Renaissance Faire. Those were depictions of the classic Renaissance Faire booth worker or peasant member-of-the-cast costumes. Not historically accurate by any means but still giving off that "old" vibe.
Shrek 2 is the best Shrek movie, not only the clothes designs are clever, but the design of everything is clever! Like honestly, Farbuck Coffee, the "VERSARCHERY" luxury shop, the road signs that say "Halt" instead of Stop. The Sir Justin poster in Fiona's bedroom, The movie theatre with the Robin Hood movie poster that says Lethal Arrow 4, the red carpet gala with the golden knight statues that look like oscars. the "Knights" cop TV program, where they have arbalets instead of guns, hot air baloons instead of helicopter and actual pepper grinder for the pepper spray. Even the fricking Hollywood inspired "Far Far Away" sign. Just love this movie so much. Also the toy in the kid's menu at "Burger Prince" being a litteral battle axe! Comedy gold!
Yeah I saw much Shrek as my daughter grew up. I asked her if she was embarrassed to be named Fiona because of it cause you know, troll, and she said no she loved it Everyone did call her princess Fiona. Like in her head "I AM A PRINCESS " really took root for her. Actually as an adult she actually looks like princess Fiona only short hair. Sometimes she has alopecia but.... As a kid I found this little head band with a middle ages kinda headdress with built in braids. She was princess Fiona. That was her hat while she had alopecia as a little kid. I forgot about that.
I HAVE NEVER CLICKED ON A VIDEO FASTER 😍 I’m a huge Shrek fan, but I also love studying historical fashion, so I’ve been dying for a video like this analyzing the ✨absolutely iconic✨looks from this series. Thank you so much Karolina!
Have you tried reviewing The Swan Princess? Not the ballet, there was a series of animated features made in the 90's, the first one being in 1994, i think. I'd really like your opinion on it.
I think Shrek's vest really just serves the purpose of harmonising the character's look and emphasizing his size, it doesn't look like a human vest because it's obviously made of some swamp beast's skin.
I love this, because someone (several people I guess) has genuinely put thought into designing these animated costumes and seeing you analyse these fits is not only entertaining, it also makes me appreciate these people who designed the character clothes :)
I think his leather vest is supposed to be made of crocodile skin. While crocodiles were I believe introduced to 5th or even 12th century private menageries, probably imported from Northwest or East Africa in places like Egypt or the Mali Empire or as far as India
you know, the Shrek universe as a bunch of time-travelers would be an interesting lore theory lol. Real Renaissance fashion mixed with Party City costumes, etc.
I'm kind of surprised how historically cohesive and somewhat accurate the costumes are; especially since everything else in the movies are so anachronistic
