Rating the Strongest Ten Tau Empire Units in Warhammer 40K - Best T'au in Arks of Omen?

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Let's talk Battlesuits and Fire Warriors, with a look at some of the best Tau units in current 40K
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0:00 Intro
0:20 Army Performance
1:36 Honourable Mentions
3:50 Pathfinders
4:58 Ethereals
5:58 Strike Team
7:19 Breacher Team
8:03 Devilfish
9:08 Hammerhead
10:53 Stealth Suits
12:15 Kroot Hounds
13:21 Crisis Battlesuits
15:25 Riptide
17:34 Commanders
20:14 Outro

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@dpshadow7276 Год назад

It's 4 am and I am maybe max. 30min away from your timezone in Britain, please let this be an automatically uploaded video

@alexairey5629 Год назад

Hitting the North American crowd with some evening entertainment

@jakefuller685 Год назад

@@alexairey5629 going well with evening milk and cookies forsure 😂

@TauEnjoyer Год назад

@@alexairey5629 that's right! midnight here, good video before going to bed ahah

@lipbalmplease Год назад

4:30am here. Handy video to keep me awake while I finish off a deadline!😅

@the_average_canadian Год назад

With his upload schedule he MUST have a backlog of chaff videos that get posted automatically when there's no immediately pressing content.

@Ryokai395 Год назад

"The Humble Stave to get the invocations out reliably." Me: "Thats my 5th invocation failing on a 1" Every time lmao :D

@Burdenist Год назад

Everytime when I really need them 😅

@roccothetaco1237 Год назад

I love warhammer

@MikeSpicyWinner Год назад

Can’t wait for that new Farsight model O.O

@nikot.9920 Год назад

I'm going up against Tau this weekend, happy to receive some insight on their best units. This video was most appreciated 🙏

@nikot.9920 Год назад

@WhiteTowerGuard I'm playing knights, chances are they will be deploying as far from me as possible

@rathstar Год назад

@@nikot.9920 Be careful, piranhas and/or devilfishes can be used to rush up and move block the knights, delaying you from making combat and using an area of the game you are better than the Tau at (melee). In mont'ka the devilfish gets a pregame move, and they can move another 12" and advance getting into the gaps between ruins near your deployment zone significantly reducing any forward movement for the knights. However to be fair most lists will deploy back.

@Xhumed Год назад

I remember when the T'au were first released, how broken they were, and how too many players would just use the cheesy strat of firing, then using the Devilfish to block return fire by moving it in front of the unit that they wanted to shield.

@saintpres4ge533 Год назад

I joined when Triptide was the meta, stacking crisis suits and shield drones around 3 riptide and just out shooting everyone

@555tork Год назад

were tau broken just because of "fish of fury" that both eldar could also use?

@Xhumed Год назад

@@555tork not just because of that, it was also the insane ranged damage they could put out. The Necrons were similarly unbalanced when they first came out, back when their schtick was "cleanse all life from the galaxy" and less "Tomb Kings... In SPAAAACE!" The Resurrection Protocols went off more frequently/reliably, so you could see models you downed get back up. This apparently got somewhat negated by giving them an auto-lose scenario if you managed to destroy 60% of their army in a later edition, but I had stopped playing and keeping track of 40k long before that point, in part due to moving hemispheres to Australia. GW have always had a problem balancing new rules for factions, as we saw in 9th.

@xaeraellockwood2365 Год назад

I was literally the first member of public to own T'au, being dumb enough to be standing first in line outside GWHQ when they released the big release box. 3rd ed T'au were absurd. Stealth suits were hyper-broken and damn near impossible to kill while churning out hard hits in your own turns. The number of times when I'd simply wipe out my opponent with nothing but a fairly plain firing line setup was insane.

@rubeniscool Год назад

Yeah I remember too lol 3rd ed Tau were mental. Then the new rail rifle snipers? Oof. They hit hard, and that's coming from a guy who played Khorne CSM lol ie "Lord in Terminator armour with Terminator Retinue with Mark of Khorne is an army on it's own" level of cheese lol.

@rathstar Год назад

3 out of the 23 lists took no riptides at all, it would interesting to see what these lists took as their heavy hitters.

@shinrapresident7010 Год назад

2x Broadside Heavy Rail Rifle, Twin SMS, ATS with drones and core for the cost of 1 single Riptide.

@andrewwrobel2786 Год назад

Great overview. I like to watch these in the background with the auto generated captions on and when I saw how it captioned "Assault 6" on the stealth suits I just about spit my drink 🤣

@rub-al-khali4265 Год назад

Question, just like custom space marine chapters are created.... can people create their own xeno species that serve the Tau Empire? Anyone ever done this before?

@thexenoist3493 Год назад

There is no official way to do that, no. People have made custom xenos for tau for proxy or homebrew though.

@TheGeneralSkye Год назад

you can proxy things as kroot or firewarriors by kitbashing, the easiest is using imperial guard minis with pulse rifles as Gue'vesa

@burnbobquist8999 Год назад

@@TheGeneralSkye When i started i did exactly that, which look a bit wonky due to the then outdated Guard modesl. Iam right now playing around the idea to buy either the IG Upgrade Kit or a full Box of IG just to redo them. :D

@wasmic5z Год назад

There are no rules for it in the codex but don't let that stop you! It's your plastic toys, you can do with them what you want. Playing with them can be done in two ways; either make them "count as" existing Tau units, or make up your own rules and find someone who's willing to play with those house rules.

@owentarleton3874 Год назад

Really good video! Do you think you could possibly talk about tactics for farsight enclaves?

@cyber-reality542 Год назад

Great video! Thanks for the research!

@willlondon4964 Год назад

Surprised to not see Darkstrider not pop up once, seems his +1 to wound would be a big buff on a crisis suit unit.

@facelesscleric2744 Год назад

Probably just a diluted result since he is only available in Tau Sept and FSE is also very popular, plus he has to compete with Ethereals and Commanders.

@TheScruffy94 Год назад

The main reason you don’t see it is he competes with Longstrike, Ethereal, Two commanders in Tau Sept. Another issue is his +1 to wound is kinda hard to use, darkstrider himself has to be able to see the enemy unit you want to target and the friendly unit you want to buff in the command phase. As a foot slogging character it’s hard for him to keep up with the 18inch move the crisis unit is potentially taking.

@filipivanovic8135 Год назад

The main problem with darkstrider is his movement sadly, I’ve tried using him as he’s awesome fluff wise, but he just can’t keep up

@rathstar Год назад

If he was outside Tau sept he'd probably get more use, as his +1 to wound is competing with spending 2 command points to allow all core units to get +1 to wound against the target.

@jazzj2 Год назад

he's competing with characters that have equally good synergy while also doing more damage

@SeanConneZombie Год назад

Was thinking of taking my tau to my lfgs and what pops into my feed? Legend.

@SaberKittyZero Год назад

I just started and just started picking ones I liked over following lists. I've just become the variety pack of units.

@rmgaminguk7079 Год назад

Nice analysis. One comment would be include Farsight in the crisis commander numbers, he pretty much has the same role as a crisis commander. I play tau sept and have a crisis commander with an Onager gauntlet which provides a very similar role to Farsight. I think with the increase cost of crisis suits the crisis commander has taken a small hit which I think pushes it down to 2nd place in the commander list. Thanks for taking the time to compile this list. Riptides being so high is a knee jerk reaction to bombers being nerfed and crisis suit point increase means most people are wary of having more than a single large unit. People have flocked to an early game jump-shoot-jump list, however I think other list types will arise as time progresses. I still think Riptides will be seen, but less of the triple riptide lists will.

@richmcgee434 Год назад

No real surprises here when I compare to the local players who care about tourney play at all. Which is getting to be a pretty small community, 9th edition and GW BS with 3P content creators have combined to see almost half that population move on. Really helped Battletech a lot, and the old grognard group I play RT/2nd with has gained some new blood as well. Still have one local Tau guy who continues to champion using tidewall shieldlines in place of Devilfish, and he's even got the other two Tau players experimenting with them when he's around to loan one out. They remain surprising effective at the local level, and I think he'd honestly be winning a lot more if he'd tone down the rest of the odd experimental stuff a bit. I'm sold on the flying trenches being viable. Not so much on the sniper drones and skyrays and the light skimmers - Barracudas? Piranhas? Some kind of fish I can't be bothered to look up... :)

@markhohenbrink5230 Год назад

Its kind of interesting with when you look at the tidewall gunrig. Its just a bigger broadside shot but the reason you take it is the rule when it dies it becomes difficult terrain on the board. Plop that down with player placed terrain and you effectively shut down a major movement lane for the enemy player trying to hit your gunline. For the other tech pieces (Sniper Drones, Skyrays, and Tetras) are mainly used for cheap and effective markerlights. Sniper Drones are extras of the Firesight Marksman who can output a lot of markerlights safely compared to pathfinders. Skyrays have decent markerlights and its just a Skyray, so you want the enemy to shoot it because that wastes shots going into the good units. Same thing for the Tetras, but sadly no one takes piranhas because they are just worse space marine attack bikes.

@G4Cidib Год назад

Great as always.

@andressierra2678 Год назад

Thanks for the information

@sergeiyamagoro431 Год назад

Thanks for this information.

@MrXephrox Год назад

Great video auspex! I really appreciate all of the Tau content 😌 🙏

@Dreamcleaver Год назад

Is Sa'cea viable enough to be fun? I know stealth in general is not the meta currently but Dense Cover on demand seems nice on paper. I just wish the T'au had a dedicated shield/melee battlesuit to make those Grav-Inhibitor fields work.

@markhohenbrink5230 Год назад

Crisis Suits should get the first weapon option reduced by 5 points, but increase the second take of the same option increased by 5-10 points. They are already well over costed imo, and other factions have free wargear while Crisis suits pay premiums on theirs.

@sabers31skip35 Год назад

I am slightly heartbroken to not see the storm surge in here considering I just bought it. Either way, the rule of cool won me over so it’s not all that bad

@harrisharris5276 Год назад

Im getting into tau right now. Stormsurge is absolutely on my shopping list

@Bodya_CN Год назад

It's main problem is every time you put one on a table, Solid Snake comes in and destroys it with C4 😕

@sergeiyamagoro431 Год назад

@@Bodya_CN classic! 😁

@Arby6784 Год назад

It's such a big target that everyone wants to take it off the board right away! It has immense firepower though and I'm sure you could find a way to make it work

@randomft Год назад

I adore my Stormsurge model and I don't care if it isn't meta. It has insane firepower, so provided you can get it to fire at least once it will have served a purpose. Try bringing it in strategic reserves turn 2, that way you have a guarantee that it will be alive turn 1. Or use Exemplar of Kauyon to bait your opponent and then redeploy it into strategic reserves. It is also pretty hard to kill, just make sure you have drones nearby for saviour protocols.

@GreatChickenGod Год назад

putting a counter fre defence on the riptide also helps in keeping it alive longer

@Burdenist Год назад

Can anyone help with what they said about taking the drones with the riptide? Why would they need to use saviour protacols if they are part of the same unit If shot by a vanquisher cannon? Couldn't they just take it on the drone?

@Eschatonin6666 Год назад

J/s, the bigger thing that brought back Strike and Breacher teams as Armour of Contempt going away. Low AP is worthwhile now

@555tork Год назад

Doesn't the standard Crisis Commander just let you choose which modifiers to your hit rolls to ignore not just the advance and shoot penalty?

@rathstar Год назад

If ignores "any and all" so he ignores enemy smoke, ad mech bikes and large walkers -1 to hit, flyer -1 to hit, dense cover if its a negative to hit modifier he ignores it. That why either farsight or a crisis commander is very popular. The only thing he doesn't ignore is the indirect fire penalty as that a ballistic skill modifier not a to hit modifier.

@powwow151 Год назад

I'm surprised Longstrike didn't make it on the list, seems worth the points to have an even more reliable Hammerhead and buff a 2nd you might have (or a crisis squad)

@rathstar Год назад

He's similar to Farsight in that he's locked to a specific sept, plus Hammerheads, while popular, are not auto takes. I would expect most, if not all, Tau sept lists took Longstrike, however as we have 3 top septs that are used competitively (Farsight, Tau & Bork'an) he's limited that he can only go in one of those. If playing Tau sept I would say he's close to an auto include.

@vyst8132 Год назад

I really wish riptides were more sturdy, the joints are so ridiculously fragile because they’re so tiny.

@PelinalDidNothingWrong Год назад

I don't play Tau but I'm glad to see Riptide Battlesuits are doing well. They're such a nice looking unit

@DareToWonder Год назад

kroot hounds get picked up by anything with indirect firing, better take a fireblade with the EM relic for screening and detaching drones for tapping the objective

@mentarq Год назад

just checked wahapedia, and I couldn't find the strat for move-mark-move.

@deanmatecki6245 Год назад

Whats about Stormsurge?

@dizzycriminal Год назад

The Stormsurge has to compete against the Hammerhead and Riptide for damage output. Since it can't take cover and has almost no mobility it makes it far less efficient. You can get a Hammerhead AND a Riptide on the table for roughly the same points as one 'Surge, with that you can cover more ground and get a more reliable damage output.

@FeeDBacKMKII Год назад

Too expensive and many armies kill him in one turn due to easy acces of S8+ weapons or some big MW mechanics of other armies

@chrisweymer7625 Год назад

What’s best? The open steppe, the wind in your hair!

@pauldick8083 Год назад

I take two units of pathfinder with 3 rail rifles each. The rifles are custody killers and each pathfinder is 1 pt cheaper than a marker drone.

@SuperAllelujah Год назад

I love my Stormsurge.

@Unaidedfoot Год назад

I love Tau🙂

@RideDatDonkey97 Год назад

T'au 😊

@user-zd5cx5rb6o Год назад

do demons next

@naughtiusmaximus1231 Год назад

If the Tau Commander is equipped with the high-output burst cannon @ 120 pts, why does he need to buy it for an extra 15 pts? Love the content, btw!

@tom9171 Год назад

120 is the cost of the suit with no gear attached. So with the hobc it’s 135 rather than 120

@tepami Год назад

@@tom9171 Really? It says "A Commander in Coldstar battlesuit is equipped with: High output burst cannon; Target lock." So from my understanding its if you want to remove the high output burst cannon for another cheaper weapon its 105 points... I might be wrong?

@violetmontgomery5627 Год назад

No Stormsurge??

@cameochris Год назад

Didn't they make one of the Forgeworld Riptipes plastic how is that guy holding up these days

@davidjones4772 Год назад

Nope, all the forge world stuff for tau is over costed and complete trash in game.

@dizzycriminal Год назад

No AoC has helped Fire Warriors out so much, it's good to see them getting play because they are iconic. I've said this before, but Broadsides really need to get Core back, it's such a simple change that would balance them against Riptides and Hammerheads internally. A Etheral or Commander sitting to buff a battery of Broadsides on the backline is thematic and would not be overpowered on the table.

@antoineb769 Год назад

Tau are below 45% wr from meta Monday.

@matthewwyatt7659 Год назад

Wha bout ma stormsurge 😢

@nklinef Год назад

It's always kind of baffled me that no one ever takes tactical drone squads. They're cheap, extremely mobile and can deepstrike. They're only 2 points more expensive than fire warriors per model and can either be taken as small distraction/move-block markerlight squads, or gundrone squads that can are putting out 4 shots at 24" at S5 for 2.5pts per shot(literally the cheapest per shot ratio in the game!) They are more durable than fire warriors at T4 and the same 4+ save. They're only drawbacks are low leadership and 5+BS(which can be modified to a 3+ with marketlights +1 to hit and a drone controller's +1BS) a full squad is 48(!) shots you can mantastrike where you need them. There's also the option to load them up on big Crisis squads to expand their firepower and remove some of their disadvantages(they share Ld and markerlights) but I never seen that done either. I don't get it.

@nklinef Год назад

Also attached to stealth suits(basically 8 more burst canon shots for 20pts), fire warriors(almost doubling their shots at 24"), or pathfinders they can add cheap ablative firepower.

@nyekomimi Год назад

Main issue with Stealth Suits is the ugly model. There is GW-made pretty model but it goes up and up in price because GW refuses to put it in made-to-order... And it doesn't have Fusion Blaster variant.

@sergeiyamagoro431 Год назад

I saw a metal one with a fusion blaster on eBay recently.

@nyekomimi Год назад

@@sergeiyamagoro431 quick google tells me its likely conversion - but mind giving me the link? I wanna see for myself

@Peelioka Год назад

Are you talking about the old xv15 suits?

@nyekomimi Год назад

@@Peelioka yeah! Peak Tau design, no walking easter eggs/super battle droids.

@gubigubigubigubi Год назад

If you are not fielding the Supremacy Armor are you even really playing Tau?

@jonathanroberts8855 Год назад

the lack of stormsurge use makes me dissapointed in the tau competitive community. arks of omen literally handed us the keys to taking stormsurges, that actually get sept tenets, without any CP penalties and the competitive tau community just said "*fart noise*"

@FeeDBacKMKII Год назад

They are too expensive and to easy too shoot down, even with 22 W and 8T. And you cant hide them cause Titanic keyword

@chrisc7563 Год назад

Huge targets you can't conceal in a meta with Votann, Guard, Iron Hands and Ravenwing as defining threats? Arks of Omen hands us the keys to a big exploding robot in our own deployment zone on turn 1.

@Azireous Год назад

1st

@sweden4thewin Год назад

First :)

@FrozenPyro06 Год назад

Wooo! Fish men!

@damnedLegion40K Год назад

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@Vinterloft Год назад

The mathematically best unit in the Tau codex against the widest range of targets is Vespid Stingwings. People just don't have the models and aren't interested in failcast if they can't find the metal ones. And the common conversions and counts-as are illegal in tournaments. So your whole video is based on a false premise.

@rathstar Год назад

Like any analysis its useful as a start. You point is very valid and is the type of fact that people should bear in mind when using this information. I agree with you that vespid are very good, not sure I would rank them as the best when you consider their durability, its the reason I'm increasing my GW tournament compliant models from 8 to 2 units of 9. The failcast models are god awful, both the sculpt and failcast.

@Vinterloft Год назад

@@rathstar They don't really need durability, they always make twice their points back. Drop them in to support XV25 near to any TEQ or MEQ, blast it, then charge it. (If one's Tau brain allows them to make such a challenging maneuver) and every time you get value. Every time. If they keep going that's a bonus, and it happens more often than you'd think. I use 2 squads of 7 and one squad of 6 in every game. Sometimes 2x10.