Ray Tracing Performance On An Intel GPU Is Weird... 

It´s still private, lel

@@ftchannel21 20 more minutes. 😃

Yeah in this video it seems to be slightly better than a gtx 960 except in cyberpunk

if you reply ill send you a pokemon card

So no Rebar - which Intel has stated needs to be enabled... Maybe you will try testing in Win95 next..

If this was a YLYL video, I would have lost it multiple times... so funny. lol

His random analogies are the reason I subscribed haha

I have to admit his cheeky comments brighten my day as well 🍻

😂

Yeah, I totally agree with this.

I was just going to comment that 😂😂

It's a thing he do in most videos

His consistency is impeccable

And A380 instead of A770 at the beginning of the video

I’m an avgeek and I approved with his jokes

yes he did

@@L4ftyOne You know how?

@@kidShibuya It's a BIOS/UEFI setting on supported hardware. The CPU, motherboard and GPU must all support the feature in order to use Resizable BAR.

Dawid did not mention anything he changed in the bios to enable resizable bar, so it's possible he didn't have it on

@@konrad999999 12th gen *should* have it enabled by default so if he didn't change anything then it should be enabled

At least pre covid GPUs were intended the price drop they had but scalpers ruined it. I still agree tho.

well Intels doing pretty good considering they are just starting out think about it AMD bought ATI Intel is starting out from scratch and they are already able to not just game but also do ray tracing to some degree already it's rather impressive when you think about it

Everyone wants these cards to do well. Only idiot fanboys don't. Competition is good for everyone.

@@cryluneI wish they were out sooner but better late then never🤣

@@raven4k998 , that's not a fair comparison considering Intel used a person from AMD to design the Intel GPU. Along with that, its not fair to compare Intel or AMD to NVIDIA with Ray Tracing because the DXR code is programmed for NVIDIA, requiring very complex drivers to compensate. This will not be the case with gameS developed on a real DirectX 12 Engines like Unreal Engine 5 that are not some ghetto rigged DirectX 11 Engine with the "DirectX12 feature" added, non-natively. The major purpose of DirectX 12 was to eliminate all this "driver" non-sense and simplify the process by natively supporting software and hardware RT within the Engine code itself. NVIDiA will still have to deal with drivers for every game because the code has to travel outside of the Engines workspace to utilize dedicated cores. AMD and Intel have the advantage of allowing the developers to utilize them easily because the allocated cores are within the same silicon. There is also the fact that AMDs shader-cores have become so fast and efficient that software RT like Lumen can be handled without the need for dedicated hardware. The differences between Lumen and dedicated Ray Tracing has recently been proven to be minor and its will only get better. NVIDIA still doesn't hold a candle to AMDs pure shader-core performance.

Right. Especially if You acknowledge that this is the 1st genration with 1st gen drivers!!!

Wtf is rebar?

@@raptorhacker599 Resizeable Bar, basically it lets the cpu acces the gpu memory.

G'day Steve, at $699AUD the A770 16GB isn't priced very well down here in Australia as you can get a RX6700XT or 3060Ti for the same $$$

@@raptorhacker599 Steel bars used to reinforce concrete. :P

yeah dxvk

So Intel arc GPU benefitted most from the work done on Steam deck and Linux gaming, everyone wins in open source

To be honest you also get performance gains with DirectX to Vulkan translation on other GPUs as well. I think there are still 2 years old benchmarks, showing that you can get around 20% more performance in World of Warcraft for example... even comparing DX12 with DXVK.

I just run popos with vulkan. I started using it a little more than a year ago and it was barely supported, and now every game supports it, and every game is on proton

as a linux user it sounds so strange hearing about dxvk on windows XD, some of my friends who run windows did get huge performance gains in games that use old dx versions

Very likely, seen the tests of this card and it was looking like competent 1440p card in new titles so having performance like this in 1080p looks strange.

@@SirSleepwalker intel gpus seem weird. They perform better at higher resolutions for some reason.

@@Derpynewb I saw Digital Foundry's review of the Arc GPUs and Raytracing seems a lot better in their testing and they did it for both 1080p and 1440p. I guess Intel cards are little gimmicky right now.

it weas on, he clarified it

@@Derpynewb Well it is from strachs and new. They are well optimized for newer tech.

tbf, as funny as that is, its more likely they havent yet gotten around to get their site templates updated then it being meant as a jab, these "blurbs" above product categorys(like GPUs even for specific brands) are part of the template for the product category, and its not often you get a new contender in a space like GPUs so this isnt necesserly something you specificaly check or evne has "high priority"

Living anywhere near a microcenter is a blessing…

future laptop you will only need to choose either Intel CPU /GPU or AMD CPU /GPU .

@@kobolds638 hopefully nvidia goes the way of voodoo then

You wish but you will not buy one woldn't you?

​@@franciscocornelio5776 actually consedering their price vs similar speed and spec cards from amd and nvdia i would buy it if its getting close to their competitors if i were to buy a gpu thats a $50 dollars lower than nvdia but only having like 10 fps lower is a real good product

​@@KiotheCloudI only want one for Minecraft

@@SMCwasTaken if you want a graphics card for minecraft you aren't going to need much. just get a low profile card

6600 xt is performing without RT about on par, just is a lot cheaper so ? this card costs about the same as a 3060, performs like one but just more issues so I don't find it good value cause it's inferior by the fact perf isn't better, price isn't better and driver quality is worse. Nothing else to be said really.

@@ole-martinbroz8590 they do compete a lot better for professional applications. their encoder is insane, and they seem to perform better in professional rendering than game rendering. They don't have to be the best on their first generation, so long as they have a market. though I will say, I wasn't aware of just how little difference ther was between AMDs low end stuff. I'm happy with the card I have for the next few years, so I didnt do that much research.

They've already laid off the graphics division I'm afraid.

man you guys claim to know so much and can't even look for 5 seconds at newegg to see even RX 6700XT are now found at $350....

@@WaterZer0 wait, actually? so theyve given up after the first generation? They cant have expected to profit on the first go, thats insane.

Yes, but rather than being impressive from engineering standpoint it needs to be actually much better than AMD/Nvidia cards at the same price point in practical day to day use, to get reasonable sells, since it doesn't have any brand recognition. I don't see that coming, so let's hope Intel's plan for 1st gen is to be a sort of beta test, and only 2nd gen and above being a commercial success.

It doesn't look like it was. To be honest, this is a fantastic card with it on, but a surprising amount of people don't know it needs to be used

12th gen should be turning on that by default

He said it was enabled in a post on one of these comments

True

now that's a word I haven't seen in ages

ARC GPUS are smelly.

@@Gatorade69 your smelly

@@Gatorade69 tbh I'd rather take smell over an extreme "gAmEr" look a little green company uses.

Yeh from the early 2000s, I miss those days.

@@michaelbrindley4363 - Me too Michael, when the quality of games was great and it didn't cost the earth. Now we've got remakes generally, poor innovation and GPU pricing which is a joke.

But then doesn't that mean the Intel gpu is overpriced? Considering the performance doesn't match the top nvidia gpus

@@psychologicalFudge I think he means that it competes with 3060 and is a much better deal

@auritro3903 I mean, the 3060 is 40%+ more powerful, so idk if it really competes with that. That's not even counting, dlss. Either way, op did say high-end. So I assumed he meant the 40 series... which are even more powerful.

I've been wondering how well it handles video rendering for live streaming. Thank you for your comment! All the big tech reviewers only review GPUs for their gaming performance. I wish they would cover video rendering too

@@tvHTHtv For streaming it is more than enough. Right now mine is used to encode an 800p 60fps twitch stream, and record the gameplay and my webcam at 1600p and 1080p respectively. It seems to do quite well for that in OBS.

@@tvHTHtv Are you familiar with EposVox? His video, "Intel GPUs are NOT what anyone expected" covers video performance starting at 7:56.

I agree. I used my A770 to stream 1080p60 to do a RU-vid stream test while playing Scum the other day and it worked great. A few friends said the video quality looked excellent. Only problem I had was I think I picked the wrong audio settings so It was only picking up my mic audio. My fault.

Fr, same. Especially the a380 one.

Intel has a jangle?

On the linux drivers there's a few tests where it hit *3080* levels. Currently outliers, but a sign of how far these might stretch with heavy driver optimizing.

@@XiaOmegaX that would make them incredible for blender rendering workloads since they rely so heavily on ray tracing now.

That wasn't the box.

Oh no, Intel is let down by the performance. They wanted more, but sure they at least priced appropriate for the market. But this first gen is putting the whole project in tepid waters.

Yeah... It's actually reasonably priced as well

There might be PCI-E limitations regarding bandwidth. RT cores are integrated into the GPU so the bandwidth is high and latency is low.

Like a photonic chip card. Then ray tracing would be instant.

Bad idea. RT cards are already basically doing that because they have dedicated cores for that. So it's not hurting shader performance anyways. All you're doing is adding latency and complication, while reducing bandwidth.

I want it for the Glue!

@@stephanhart9941 i dont get it, can you explain

@@Zionn69 Gamers Nexus who reviewed one of the models said the pcb was tacked with so many thermal pads, acting like glue.

@@Zionn69 check out the Gamers Nexus teardown. There are some questionable assembly methods employed with the reference A770/750, including glue. Not great for maintenance or reassembly.

There's some tape on the backplate

ive heard it doesnt have driver support for ubuntu yet

@@dillonnnnnn not really, there is actually a support Kernel 6.0 has them implemented officially by Intel BUT Mesa3D already updated their packages with Intel Drivers - so really... even if you take for example, Mint with Kernel 5.15 - you still will run that GPU without any issue, and if you use Mesa you will have everything updated to latest no matter what :D

proper neckbeard linux.

@@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432 mhm, ok xd

If you cant tell the difference between Ray Tracing On and Off you really need to check your eyes :)

Its too bad if you look at a teardown video and see that its held together with glue and tape. Literally. Sacrificing practical parts of the design like it being easily worked on for aesthetics is a terrible practice for a company. Even if most of your consumers wont tear it apart there is quite often a need to do so for some.

I agree 100% the card is so pretty

Looks are superficial.

@@MasterN64 Uh, yeah, that solid, cast base plate is just for show. Get real. They taped some wires out of the way and used some adhesive to secure the back cover. It is not "literally" held together with glue and tape. If anything, the card is overengineered.

@@wargamingrefugee9065 Look guy every single major manufacturer of cards avoids tape and glue at practically all costs because they are an absolute nightmare to deal with and put back together in a way that looks decent. The first step to taking it apart is to peel off the big sheet of flimsy metal on the back of the card to get access to the screws thats held there with double sided tape. A metal sheet that you will -never- get back on in a way that will look decent again. If you want to understand why just watch the gamers nexus teardown of the card and why they say so.

I couldn't resist that click bait! 😄

Really? Well you learn something new every day

Complete lateral move. Not sure why you'd even consider that