Raymond Daniels vs Zsolt Moradi Open Weight Finals at Irish Open 2012 

Seriously. How do you really think these jokers would stand up to the traditionalist like JKA or SKI?

I think they would do quite well. There's not much footwork in JKA, in fact most traditionalists I've met or seen don't have much footwork or timing. These guys could run circles around the straight predictable lines of the JKA fighters. If you think these guys aren't powerful, get in the ring with them and find out. Incidentally, Raymond Daniels is also a successful kickboxer. This isn't full-contact but it is a contact sport. Either of these guys could break jaws and crack ribs with their kicks. You'd know that if you'd been in the ring with them. They're fast and accurate. I can respect a UFC fighter or kickboxer being critical of the lack of contact in this sport but when the criticism comes from someone who doesn't compete at all they're really speaking from a point of total ignorance. If their skill isn't apparent to you it's because of your lack of knowledge not their lack of skill. People don't just wake up one day being able to kick, blitz, defend, side step, and strategize like these guys. It takes year and years of daily training and most people will never get to that level even after years of that training. I think point fighting's great. These guys have more speed, strategy, and clean technique than anyone.

BlackRaven156 totally agree dude

Mike G G I agree dude, my coach has told me some stories....

And the 70’s; those were your first MMA matches...brutal.

It's points not full contact, this is skill and speed not knockout ability.

***** A pity that the skill is not apparent?

Shrike343 Agree :p

Shrike343 really may be u fuckers should have a go u would not last 1 ,I minute

Mya Johal yeah