the referee is funny - when Raymond takes his time to do his show and make everyone wait, the referee is quiet and patient, but when other guy needs to fix his sheen guard, he start to play a tough inpatient macho man.
These judges don't fight at all... There eyes can't keep up with the speed of someone who trains to score on someone. We need more world champion fighter judges.
I use to go to tournaments in the 80's just to fight and hit hard who cares about the trophy and warnings. Oakland coliseum, Keezar pavillion, San Jose Civic auditorium, long beach arena fight against Cascos, Crazy Dragons, Navarros, Castros.
I'm 62 years old. I started out point fighting in my early 20's did really great at it. I stopped in my early 20's went full contact from then to my mid 30"s. I see no point in point fighting
Judging was not good. Whenever Raymond scored first but it wasn't completely clean they just waved it off. And moradi is constantly going backwards and playing the out of bounds. If I was Zsolt I wouldn't feel very good about winning like that.
The guy in white was soft, just tried to touch his opponent every time. Raymond on the other hand is kicking ass in Glory and proved he can compete in full contact fights with the world's best strikers.
its been a few years but NO BELTS!? what has happened to sport Karate did i miss something? I thought this was Traditional sparing for Korean and Japanese martial arts
Nope. It has evolved into somethings new--this is point sparring. The no belts come from the fact that these fighters are vary well known, and everyone knows that they are black belts. If you have this kind of recognition the promotors of these tournaments dont mind if you dont wear them, i mean they kinda get in the way when you fight.
The Americans has weird way of doing kickboxing matches, one point at a time and then the match stops and I think no one is allowed to get hurt em I right? Please someone could explain this
Fantastic athletes but the (WAKO) system has watered down. They need to get rid of headguards, allow drop sweeps, stop awarding one point each, stop calling stop too often but keep the flow going a bit more and dont allow antics like Daniels.
That's an amazing fight..! Zsolt Moradi whipped the Raymond Daniel's butt easily and his fighting techniques and sportsmanship are totally superior. However, Daniels couldn't see any chance to fight with Zsolt. ! Whatsoever Daniels can continue making his show and circus only in USA not outside...what a shame!
Jose Penaloza Raymond has been the best point fighter, EVER! Moradi didn't Whooped Daniels butt, Raymond kicked him at least 2 times with spinning back kicks that the judges "didn't" see plus another couple of times he made contact FIRST and they didn't call it either. Raymond has won the Grand Champion division at the Irish Open 10 times... When Moradi wins 5 we can talk about Moradi been the best. In the mean time you can watch on tv Raymond fighting next week in Glory.
+Luis Jimenez I'm sorry, but Nieky Holzken makes Daniels look like a bitch in the ring...every damn time. That's what often happens to Daniels when he ventures outside of point fighting, e.g., he gets KO'd, and TKO'd. He's not a fighter's fighter, at all.
+Saltjunkie You're right, but the last one was stopped for a nasty cut above the eye. There was a massive improvement between that and their last meeting. But you have to acknowledge that point fighting and k-1 are 2 totally different sports and give him the respect he deserves for stepping out of his comfort zone to challenge himself. He has already proven himself to be the most successful point fighter of all time, so hats off to him for trying something different. But hey, Nicky is a beast.
Brannmanndan He has NOT proven to be the "most successful point fighter of all time." You can't even qualify such a thing. Where do you fans pull this shit from? Christ, it's so delusional.
So many people getting salty and whiny. Apparently most whiny comments are coming from americans. Does it really surprise..?! Really sad how unsportsmanlike this is. Well, this attitude is reflected by the american in this fight himself. Truly a disgrace having a person like him participating in this events. He should stick to Glory or whatever. Maybe there his behaviour is needed, or wanted, or people think it s cool. The rest of the world doesnt like a show off. And people who do this sport certainly also don t appreciate it one bit. And all the people complaining about how this isn t a real fight just because its not about beating the opponent up or something, (which just shows how they have no clue at all what they r e talking about) Well it s not Boxing, its semi - contact Kick boxing. Which means its about who scores the first point. Just like in fencing. Do they perhaps stab each other in fencing, do they try to hurt each other? NO. Because that s not what it is about. Not at all. Stop complaining how they wouldn t last in a box fight or MMA or whatever. They never said they would, No ONE said that. Also, no one who does this sport is interested in knocking others K.O. or getting knocked out. Pretty pathetic how narrow minded one must be to even go there. Also, Raymond is such a sore loser. Complaining about every decision the judges make when it doesnt go his way. Which shows what a poor athlete he truly is. Worse than a child. Because, well a child doesnt know it better. Constantly trying to tell the judges how they should rule. Or showing how some jab or kick hit his arm or sthg and shoudn t have been a point.. Not only in this video, actually in any video that i ve seen with him he shows the same poor attitude. Im not saying he has no martial arts skills. He definitely has. He wouldn t have been so many times in a grand champion finale or won if he wasn t a tremendously skilled athlete. But this makes it even worse. It s just such a disgrace and he should be disqualified every time he tries to influence the judges in any way. Just like any athlete doing this during a fight should be.
Just your opinion. Go to a fuckin beauty competition or something, lol. BTW im a point fighter too, just to make it clear that anyone who liked your comment has an IQ of bananas to agree with that shit..
